Thanks for the video! I was reading Job to my wife and daughter just today. I was finding myself slowly thinking through the friends’ arguments just like what you’re saying. Keep you the great work!
I love the book of Job. It's raw. We all have parts of our lives where we go through these terrible things and it gives you a ton of feedback. Especially feedback to the age old comment "if God exists why do bad things happen to good people." I agree... It gets you thinking and applying the bible to your own misfortune, leading (at least me) to fall harder onto the Lord.
Thank you, John! Would you agree that, through dialogue there are kinds of 'trial and error' learning by Job and his interlocutors? Also do you think the book contains heuristics?
Alternative title: No one sites Job to explain why a good God allows so much horrific suffering. For some reason, “God made a bet with Satan” isn’t satisfying.
Christians don’t just not read the middle of Job they don’t read Job at all or site Job to explain why we suffer. As beautifully written as it is, Job does not help us answer the question of theodicy.
@@stevesherman1669 of course, that’s standard fare in critical scholarship. However, the multiple authors is painful and makes little sense. It is a conjecture based on no hard evidence. We don’t have any indication of that in the text, no manuscript editorial indication, and no ancient attestation. The problem with using “multiple authors” as an explanatory tool is that whenever you encounter something you think is off or unexpected, you slap another author/redactor on. The problem with that is that one of the main tools of the literary craft is the skillful deployment of surprise, the unexpected. Robert Alter in his “Art of Biblical Narrative” gives a great practical example of the problem with this with an analysis of Genesis 37-38. In sum, the critical scholar sees the jump between Joseph to Judah as a sign of a poor editor. When you look with literary eyes you can see the mountain of parallel where each story is a sexual test of each brother. The presupposition you bring to the text pushes you into the interpretation.
For a breakthrough understanding of the Book of Job, read the novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke.” Advanced.
Wow, your channel name is right the Bible is Art. Great video !!!
You I’ve never realized till now that we are looking for different answers than Job was. Very interesting. Thanks again for the vids!
It makes so much sense why the Book of Job spent so much length going through so many “wrong” explanations! Thank you so much!
Thanks for the video! I was reading Job to my wife and daughter just today. I was finding myself slowly thinking through the friends’ arguments just like what you’re saying. Keep you the great work!
Great insight as usual. Thank you for sharing this!
Thank you again for your wisdom sir! Great video
Very insightful! Thanks again, brother!
I love the book of Job. It's raw. We all have parts of our lives where we go through these terrible things and it gives you a ton of feedback. Especially feedback to the age old comment "if God exists why do bad things happen to good people." I agree... It gets you thinking and applying the bible to your own misfortune, leading (at least me) to fall harder onto the Lord.
Thank you brother for all the good insights!
I read it but Is very confusing, long, and some parts are boring but the good ones are gold.
Thank you, John! Would you agree that, through dialogue there are kinds of 'trial and error' learning by Job and his interlocutors? Also do you think the book contains heuristics?
Regarding the first question, I don’t know the material well enough to say. Re the second, what do you mean?
@@TheBibleisArt Sorry for the delay in replying, John. By heuristics I means shortcuts or other means which speed up effective learning
Alternative title: No one sites Job to explain why a good God allows so much horrific suffering. For some reason, “God made a bet with Satan” isn’t satisfying.
I’m not following you. Can you explain?
Read closer it tells you who Job is pay attention look deep.
Christians don’t just not read the middle of Job they don’t read Job at all or site Job to explain why we suffer. As beautifully written as it is, Job does not help us answer the question of theodicy.
@@jonnyw82 it’s not written as a theodicy.
@@TheBibleisArt sure does seem that way
You are correct and it tells you who Job really is and few who see it.
Who?
@@TheBibleisArt Go back a few times You’ll see 3 chapters start off saying something only one person in scripture does.
Did you ever consider multiple authors? Some Bible scholars do. Your explanation is painful and makes little sense.
@@stevesherman1669 of course, that’s standard fare in critical scholarship. However, the multiple authors is painful and makes little sense. It is a conjecture based on no hard evidence. We don’t have any indication of that in the text, no manuscript editorial indication, and no ancient attestation.
The problem with using “multiple authors” as an explanatory tool is that whenever you encounter something you think is off or unexpected, you slap another author/redactor on. The problem with that is that one of the main tools of the literary craft is the skillful deployment of surprise, the unexpected. Robert Alter in his “Art of Biblical Narrative” gives a great practical example of the problem with this with an analysis of Genesis 37-38.
In sum, the critical scholar sees the jump between Joseph to Judah as a sign of a poor editor. When you look with literary eyes you can see the mountain of parallel where each story is a sexual test of each brother.
The presupposition you bring to the text pushes you into the interpretation.