2015 KOREAN INTERSKI WORKSHOP
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- This is a short edit from the 2015 Korean workshop at INTERSKI in Argentina. It features Korean Demonstrator, Erin Min, sharing the Korean's short turn techniques and teaching methods. We can't wait to hear from Erin again in Bulgaria in March 2019!!!
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Hello Paul, This is a Korean skier subscriber and I really enjoy your videos. I appreciate sharing this video and nice work at the Japan tech comp!! I'd like to say that a lot of Korean ski style is pretty similar to Japanese styles. Watching you and Reily train at Niseko for recent few years and achieving style change and making your own style is really impressive. Thank you for nice video and hope I can be skiing with you someday in the future!
Thank you Byungjun for your comment. Reilly and I are both constantly trying to evolve and improve our technique. The Japanese and Korean styles (among others) have been major sources of inspiration. Thanks again for your comment and I hope to see you on the slopes some time!
Great thanks to Paul and Korean demonstrators... and nice Erin!!!
Awesome skiing from the Korean Demo team.
I am not sure if this was explained before the demonstration of the Korean male skier at @2:10 but I like the way he released the BTE (whilst in a wedge) to let the outside ski to slide and to signal new edge change or balance to the new outside ski he makes a pole tap.
Ok I am confused by this video by the use of the term up and down when she is talking about translation into the new turn. When I have watched Paul ski I have definitely noticed an elimination of up and down moving of the hips. His legs flex and swing side to side as she mentioned in the progression turn. So what am I missing and why is she using the up and down term? I thought that was old style skiing?
Hi Thomas, Thanks for your comment. These different styles of transition that you mention are dependant on the speed and performance of the turn. The progressive turn Erin talks about is a purely carved turn. There is a large amount of pressure build up through the turn and this type of turn requires a transition that gets the body from one side of the skis to the other as quickly as possible to engage a high edge during the initiation. With this type of transition there is not much time for an up motion without compromising the rhythm and ability to change edges quickly. At slower speeds the forces necessary to push the feet under the body and out to the other side are not present (or are less significant). As such a transfer of weight can be more beneficial to the skier. Anyway that is just my thoughts and I also what I believe the objective of this progression. I'm sure there will be some that disagree. I hope this helps answer your question.
Hi Thomas
I think 'Up and down' that exist expression only in Korean. So now day our Demonstrators want to change our expression 'up and down' to 'vertical movement'. Actually, Korean skier always used that expression 'up and down' still now. That meaning is 'Your body position move higher or lower'
I hope that my answer was helpful
Hey Paul, I still struggle to do short turns - what they call "progressive“ - on steeper terrain, as I can’t really control my speed. Do you have any advice on that?
It is a tricky thing. A pure carve short turn has very little speed control. It is more about skiing at speed in control. On the steeper slopes and higher speeds the pressure that is created can also be overwhelming. IMO this pure carve type of turn is the ultimate, but may not be possible on certain slopes, conditions or for certain abilities. I find it more difficult as it gets steeper and icier. I would practise on something you feel comfortable on (without feeling the need for speed control) until you get used the energy and rebound in the snow and then gradually increase the gradient. As it gets steeper a mixed performance turn may be more achievable...meaning pure carving parts of the turn rather than the whole thing. Anyway I hope this helps and good luck. Trying to pure carve down very steep slopes is something we are all trying to practise and takes years!
Great vid. Erin is pretty.
How did all those students keep a straight face?
I noticed Korea has a large pool of great skiers with good technics... But not many racers.. Curious to know why.
JPTK Firts of all, sorry for my poor English, i’m one of common skier from Korea. Most of slopes(piste) in Korea is quite short and narrow then others. And as I know, early ski culture of Korea origined from Japan, so many Koreans prefer inter ski then racing. Finally in Korea, installing gates for racing practice is very expensive for common people who are not professionals of athletes.
Hey paul, great video as always and very nice upload rate. I wanted to ask you what the key is in pushing the skis on ice/hard slopes. Yesterday when i was practicing my carves it was very hard since it was my first time carving on icy and hard slopes, i pushed and compared to the rather soft snow a week ago i could feel every bump on my skis edge, and also feel how id lose grip when trying to put more force on the outside ski to shorten the turn radius, pretty scary.
btw great video about the early edge on vimeo, too bad i couldnt record myself but i think it helped to reduce my a frame if i ever had one. Greetings
I am curious to read Paul's response. I ski on the east coast US, known as the ice coast. Skiing on ice or hard man-made snow is very common, so I have some experience with this surface. Obviously having sharp edges is a must, and for me personally, less is more when it comes to ice. Meaning you have to be gentle on the edges, but great skiers, including WC racers don't seem to have that approach and have the ability to dig in and carve on steep icy slopes.
Hi Walid, Thanks for your comment. I understand your point and agree with the idea of pushing. I think this is a misunderstanding/communication with the words used. By pushing I think she means pushing the outside foot forward through the arc as opposed to pushing and extending the leg. Moving the feet forward through the arc is something that I am cognisant of during every turn.
Paul Lorenz oh so to reconfirm you are doing exactly what jf explained in his feet position video on vimeo right? Very interesting, i also tried doing that once on a medium/long turn, and it felt very awkward. I guess on a short turn its necessary to get this extreme short radius. Thanks for ur reply
Paul Lorenz hey paul, i have another question as i read ur article about inclination and angulation: if carving on ice, would over angulation not be rather good to get as much grip as possible on the outside ski? I played around with that thought, and maybe next time im on ice i should rather angulate more than trying to push the ski.
@@walid2011_ that's what I took from her explanation of pushing. What JF talks about in that episode we discussed in detail and is something I am feeling every turn I make.
Very good short turns. But this is a bad teaching method. The instructor does not know what is more important than what. So she starts the explanations by talking about what to do with the arms, which is a secondary problem with all skiing. An instructor must be able to understand the priority order of all the elements of the ski turns before staring to teach. It is also necessary to be able to do the thing right of course but this is not enough. I say: the closer we come to the snow surface the more important is the body part we talk about.
Start the teaching of what to do with the feet. But footwork is something racers do automatically, they do not need to think about it.
Hi Janos, Thanks for your comment. I agree with the points you put forward for teaching, however please understand that this is an Interski workshop delivered to the top technical skiers, coaches and instructors from each country. It is not a lesson, but rather an explanation/demonstration of Korean technique and way of working through a progression to reach this. The arms etc. was in answer to a question from the audience as to why their upper body style is as it is. Thanks again for the comment and for the great points you put forward about teaching.
I thought it was a very good workshop, she is not teaching beginners, she is highlighting the differences in the Korean method
Old type of ski. Very surprised to see them doing in 80~90s. Now 2019.
Why does she do skiing in old fashion?
Too timid for modern ski.
Nice demonstrations! But her explanation is not very clear, IMO.
As a Korean, her explanation is not difficult to understand at all. But she use more ‘Korean style word’ that commonly used during ski lesson in Korea. For example, ‘up and down’ means ‘vertical movement’. So she directly translated Korean to English without subtle differences between two languages.