The dipped handles fit in the bag well, the comfort grip fit in the hand well, the VDE grip fit in surviving electrical accidents well. Accidents happen...#VDE4Life!
I have a lot of Knipex (amazing tools), and I prefer dips for needle nose, water pump Cobra, and the Twin Grip for dexterity and size reasons. Comfort grip for cutters or any pliers I might use to cut - and only have VDE in a pair of Linesman. The preference IMO would be totally subjective to preferences and type work an individual was doing.
I've been making the switch to comfort grip...even though it's expensive. I'm not 20 years old anymore and carpal tunnel is a threat. I've spent a weekend on the couch with my wrist dangling is iced water. (Due to the POP you mentioned.) The comfort handles take up more space.....but when you know what tools you need.....you don't bring everything with you anyway. Leave space for the right tools and leave space for the next job that pays. Cheers.
Inoperable does have a 200mm lineman’s. Their lineman’s are 240mm. You must have either their standard combination pliers or high leverage combination pliers in the 200mm length
For some electrical jobs that you have to do with live current, the VDE is a must, not that the comfort grip wont insulate, its just not certified. And in Europe we have 220V which is much more dangerous than 110 you have in the US. I'm DIY and I have worked with live current. If you don't plan to do such jobs ever, then the comfort grip is the obvious choice. The dipped grip is for anyone wanting to get into knipex tools but with more affordable price, here the 160 dipped pliers is about 13eur. And for the rare case you want access if the comfort grip is too big to fit, I got my 250 pliers wrench with dipped grip as the comfort grip would make it too thick of a tool.
@@felixf5211 But if it shorts to ground through you it will be more than twice the current flowing through you, because the resistance of the human body decreases as the voltage goes up.
They are not lineman’s. They are combination pliers. They serve the same purpose and both do pretty much the same things. They are also both originally an electrician’s tool. But they are not the same tool. Lineman’s pliers usually come in a 9/9.5 inch format although you can find them larger or smaller. Combination pliers come is many sizes, from 5.5 inches to 10 inches for the standard ones you have here and from 6.25 inches to 9 inches for the high leverage combination pliers. Aside from that though, the real difference between them is the fact that combination pliers have a rounded section of the jaws for facilitating the gripping of fasteners while lineman’s don’t. They instead have flat jaws. Many other companies make some nice high end combination pliers and high leverage combination pliers including Knipex, Klein, Channelocks, Gedore, NWS, vampire tool/engineers, Fujiya, etc… fujiya and vampire tools call theirs “lineman’s” but they are not. They are high leverage combination pliers.
@@htr5372 no. The are lineman’s pliers that don’t have the NE style. You can see a different head design on older pairs of lineman’s plier. Combination pliers may have caught on in Europe better than their older cousins the lineman’s, but it isn’t a European invention. It’s literally just a modified lineman’s.
6:00 you obviously cut a much smaller piece of copper with the comfort grip pliers and a larger piece with the two other pairs. Lol 😂 the VDE grips are essentially the exact same materials as the comfort grip, just a different color and more pronounced guards a the end of the handles to prevent you from accidentally touching the bare metal while working. They are also tested and have the 1000 volt rating (which takes time, LOTS of money and LOTS of paperwork to be able to have them rated as such).
I generally prefer the dipped handles but my sidecutters have VDE handles as I sometimes need to cut live wires. I rarely use combination pliers, mostly sidecutters and needle nose.
The key thing is that NO one ever mentions is the individual size of their hands 🙌🏻, not everyone has the same hand ✋🏻 size. Some of these “comfort grips” are too bulky for detailed hand tool work.
I use the thousand volt rated pliers most times. My wire strippers and twin grips and flush cuts are comfort grip. My cobras are the standard grip. I haven’t tested them all side by side. I use the insulated ones for obvious reasons as an electrician. I reckon I’d find the thicker handles cumbersome for my cobras. But I think I prefer the insulated grips to the others generally.
The milkers that rodbusters use are the most comfortable grips ever. When you use your pliers all day every day you learn whats best for dexterity and comfort. The guys that use em know what im talking about.
Hello again Doc Thank you for another Great Video. I have to admit, I have never thought about the pliers grips as put it. Not all my pliers have the comfort grip. What matters to me is do the pliers get the job done. Again thank you
Amazing channel. Already watched like 20 videos. Man thanks fornthe great reviews. I do love the red handles, the comfort and vde are too bulky and take space, besides I don't feel big difference. I don't use gloves. I grow up with metal handles full of electrical tape and the red dips are for me a lot better. The others ones take quite a time and are really annoying. Is my opinion.
You're free to call them the wrong thing if you want, but these are combination pliers. They are the European equivalent to slipjoint pliers here in the US. I would have chosen the dipped handle ooption.Dipped handles have never been an issue for me , and I don't like overly bulky tools that take up too much space in a box. I just do not like " comfort grip " tools that never really seem to be that comfortable in my hands
Thin for the win. Gotta be one with the tool and I don't feel that with the fat squishy grips. No problems cutting when you're gonna buy the mini bolt cutters anyways 🤣 I also like my tools more dedicated. Cutters for cutting. Pliers for prying 🤷♂️.
I’ve gone for the comfort grip on all my Knipex tools over the last few years especially with their Alligators and Plier Wrenches. That said for my VDE pliers set I opted for C.K even over the Knipex. Have you tried any of the C.K tools Doc?
Gosh, I've never needed combination pliers -- for anything. Am I missing something? They just seem so "bleh." On topic, I guess I'd prefer the dipped, because I'd never use them. :P
@@felixf5211 Agreed. Though I must profess that slip joints (in my experience) have their limitations too: Honestly, I've only ever used them on a Kubota tractor and a Kawasaki bike, and both times they worked great gripping those hose spring clamps. Combination pliers? There's always a better pliers option in even the apprentice's toolbox.
I like snap on dipped handles the best. Granted, I’ve never felt knipex comfort grips. But I feel the snap on grips have the perfect amount of squish. Also, the high leverage mini pliers are a great idea!
These are very nice and handy wee pliers. But ive just learned that knipex make a higher leverage model from harder steel. So ive ordered those in 200mm I have your ones arrive the other day but may be sending them back. ( because i cut a nail and it left a big dent in the snips) 60 hrc on these pliers. 63HRC on the high leverage model.. What can i do?
I have been thinking about getting the Twingrip with dipped grips, but have been holding out just in case they announce a 6" model. I have been wondering if the comfort grips were worth it for the twingrips
I think they are. Makes them a bit less slim but it’s definitely worth it in my opinion, so much more comfortable with the comfort grip. Some tools are fine without it but this one is better with the comfort grips in my opinion.
I would see no benefit, for me, with my experience with the twin grip. I like the slim feel and dexterity it gives me, but I totally get why many would prefer comfort grips. Just depends on the person.
Do this for the pliers Wrench too. These videos are so unique!
The dipped handles fit in the bag well, the comfort grip fit in the hand well, the VDE grip fit in surviving electrical accidents well. Accidents happen...#VDE4Life!
I have a lot of Knipex (amazing tools), and I prefer dips for needle nose, water pump Cobra, and the Twin Grip for dexterity and size reasons. Comfort grip for cutters or any pliers I might use to cut - and only have VDE in a pair of Linesman. The preference IMO would be totally subjective to preferences and type work an individual was doing.
this is exactly what I was looking for, as I couldn't decide which one to get. I'm going to order the comfort grip ones. thank you sir!
Personally I gladly trade comfort for slim more slippery dipped handles that fit in my tool belt/bags with ease
I'm starting to lean more in that direction as well
I've been making the switch to comfort grip...even though it's expensive. I'm not 20 years old anymore and carpal tunnel is a threat. I've spent a weekend on the couch with my wrist dangling is iced water. (Due to the POP you mentioned.) The comfort handles take up more space.....but when you know what tools you need.....you don't bring everything with you anyway. Leave space for the right tools and leave space for the next job that pays. Cheers.
great insight, and thank you for sharing.
A great video Sir. I love Knipex tools. You are so right, get the ones that feel good in the hand and work for you. 😊
I have comfort grip with oxide finish on 250mm Cobra, 200mm Linesman, 200mm Longnose, and 200mm Diagonal cutters. Love them all
Inoperable does have a 200mm lineman’s. Their lineman’s are 240mm. You must have either their standard combination pliers or high leverage combination pliers in the 200mm length
For some electrical jobs that you have to do with live current, the VDE is a must, not that the comfort grip wont insulate, its just not certified. And in Europe we have 220V which is much more dangerous than 110 you have in the US. I'm DIY and I have worked with live current. If you don't plan to do such jobs ever, then the comfort grip is the obvious choice. The dipped grip is for anyone wanting to get into knipex tools but with more affordable price, here the 160 dipped pliers is about 13eur. And for the rare case you want access if the comfort grip is too big to fit, I got my 250 pliers wrench with dipped grip as the comfort grip would make it too thick of a tool.
220/240V is half the current of 120V.
@@felixf5211 But if it shorts to ground through you it will be more than twice the current flowing through you, because the resistance of the human body decreases as the voltage goes up.
I like the smooth red dipped grips as well as the texture dip grips on the black cobras.
They are not lineman’s. They are combination pliers. They serve the same purpose and both do pretty much the same things. They are also both originally an electrician’s tool. But they are not the same tool. Lineman’s pliers usually come in a 9/9.5 inch format although you can find them larger or smaller. Combination pliers come is many sizes, from 5.5 inches to 10 inches for the standard ones you have here and from 6.25 inches to 9 inches for the high leverage combination pliers. Aside from that though, the real difference between them is the fact that combination pliers have a rounded section of the jaws for facilitating the gripping of fasteners while lineman’s don’t. They instead have flat jaws. Many other companies make some nice high end combination pliers and high leverage combination pliers including Knipex, Klein, Channelocks, Gedore, NWS, vampire tool/engineers, Fujiya, etc… fujiya and vampire tools call theirs “lineman’s” but they are not. They are high leverage combination pliers.
@@htr5372 no. The are lineman’s pliers that don’t have the NE style. You can see a different head design on older pairs of lineman’s plier. Combination pliers may have caught on in Europe better than their older cousins the lineman’s, but it isn’t a European invention. It’s literally just a modified lineman’s.
My personal favorite so far is the textured dipped handles commonly found on the Cobras, thanks for funny penny cutting shout-out lol 😂
Not sure why but I only use the standard handles for all Knipex. They just feel smooth yet look classic imo
6:00 you obviously cut a much smaller piece of copper with the comfort grip pliers and a larger piece with the two other pairs. Lol 😂 the VDE grips are essentially the exact same materials as the comfort grip, just a different color and more pronounced guards a the end of the handles to prevent you from accidentally touching the bare metal while working. They are also tested and have the 1000 volt rating (which takes time, LOTS of money and LOTS of paperwork to be able to have them rated as such).
I generally prefer the dipped handles but my sidecutters have VDE handles as I sometimes need to cut live wires. I rarely use combination pliers, mostly sidecutters and needle nose.
Agreed , Comfort grip , FTW !
the old timers with no coating on their tools are getting a good laugh on this one!
The key thing is that NO one ever mentions is the individual size of their hands 🙌🏻, not everyone has the same hand ✋🏻 size. Some of these “comfort grips” are too bulky for detailed hand tool work.
I frequently mention that I have large/XL hands and like the larger grips.
I use the thousand volt rated pliers most times. My wire strippers and twin grips and flush cuts are comfort grip. My cobras are the standard grip.
I haven’t tested them all side by side. I use the insulated ones for obvious reasons as an electrician. I reckon I’d find the thicker handles cumbersome for my cobras. But I think I prefer the insulated grips to the others generally.
The milkers that rodbusters use are the most comfortable grips ever. When you use your pliers all day every day you learn whats best for dexterity and comfort. The guys that use em know what im talking about.
Hello again Doc
Thank you for another Great Video. I have to admit, I have never thought about the pliers grips as put it. Not all my pliers have the comfort grip. What matters to me is do the pliers get the job done. Again thank you
Amazing channel. Already watched like 20 videos. Man thanks fornthe great reviews.
I do love the red handles, the comfort and vde are too bulky and take space, besides I don't feel big difference. I don't use gloves. I grow up with metal handles full of electrical tape and the red dips are for me a lot better.
The others ones take quite a time and are really annoying. Is my opinion.
If you like this guy also check out German tool reviews and Bzeug, they both have very similar video styles, super great info from all 3!
You're free to call them the wrong thing if you want, but these are combination pliers.
They are the European equivalent to slipjoint pliers here in the US.
I would have chosen the dipped handle ooption.Dipped handles have never been an issue for me , and I don't like overly bulky tools that take up too much space in a box.
I just do not like " comfort grip " tools that never really seem to be that comfortable in my hands
Thin for the win. Gotta be one with the tool and I don't feel that with the fat squishy grips. No problems cutting when you're gonna buy the mini bolt cutters anyways 🤣 I also like my tools more dedicated. Cutters for cutting. Pliers for prying 🤷♂️.
I prefer the dipped handles. I’m usually working out of a Wera 2 Go tool quiver so I need them to be as slim as possible.
Aren't they pairs of *combination* pliers rather than a lineman? In France, we call them "universal" pliers because they work for everything
If you're using the insulated ones there is probably a need. Therefore comfort is a non factor.
They all look pretty good!
Knipex best. A drop of oil should be added to the middle hub of the pliers every week.
I’ve gone for the comfort grip on all my Knipex tools over the last few years especially with their Alligators and Plier Wrenches. That said for my VDE pliers set I opted for C.K even over the Knipex. Have you tried any of the C.K tools Doc?
Gosh, I've never needed combination pliers -- for anything. Am I missing something? They just seem so "bleh."
On topic, I guess I'd prefer the dipped, because I'd never use them. :P
Haha as a DIY er I prefer needle nose
Same here. I’m a mechanic with an electrical bias but I find I rarely use combination pliers. Mostly sidecutters and needle nose for me.
I don't own combination pliers, either. Just don't like them. Would much rather use a slip joint. As for handles, dipped every time.
@@felixf5211 Agreed. Though I must profess that slip joints (in my experience) have their limitations too: Honestly, I've only ever used them on a Kubota tractor and a Kawasaki bike, and both times they worked great gripping those hose spring clamps. Combination pliers? There's always a better pliers option in even the apprentice's toolbox.
Knipex best.
Good comparison video...no worries on our pennies as we don't use them up here anymore
I like snap on dipped handles the best. Granted, I’ve never felt knipex comfort grips. But I feel the snap on grips have the perfect amount of squish.
Also, the high leverage mini pliers are a great idea!
These are very nice and handy wee pliers. But ive just learned that knipex make a higher leverage model from harder steel. So ive ordered those in 200mm
I have your ones arrive the other day but may be sending them back.
( because i cut a nail and it left a big dent in the snips) 60 hrc on these pliers.
63HRC on the high leverage model..
What can i do?
I have been thinking about getting the Twingrip with dipped grips, but have been holding out just in case they announce a 6" model. I have been wondering if the comfort grips were worth it for the twingrips
I think they are. Makes them a bit less slim but it’s definitely worth it in my opinion, so much more comfortable with the comfort grip. Some tools are fine without it but this one is better with the comfort grips in my opinion.
I would see no benefit, for me, with my experience with the twin grip. I like the slim feel and dexterity it gives me, but I totally get why many would prefer comfort grips. Just depends on the person.
Последние цифры после made in germani что означают? Год производства? Или что?
There all the same besides grip tho?
Listen young man,
I’m going to give you a free tip here:
It’s NOT “Kuh-nip-ex” it’s “kih-neepex”
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@@lastbesttool LMAO, classic! Morally Ambiguous, where art thou?