goofy is canonically from a diferent species but still a canine, pluto is a domestic dog but goofy is a ''canis lupus goofus'' (that's literally the name of the species lol)
And here I thought you couldn't draw a line between Pluto and Scooby-Doo, but his portrayal in the climax of The Moose Hunt has officially proven me wrong.
4:24 this internal monologue sounds a lot like the little devil on Plutos shoulder when his conscience was shown that way in a few cartoons, classic angel and devil, which makes Pluto himself seem less malicious like in that clip
Pluto once had a shoulder angel who talked to Pluto. It was in reference to Pluto deciding whether, or not, to save a kitten from drowning in a frozen pond.
The angel/devil plutos were comedy gold, especially in house of mouse. I remember one episode where Pluto was having an existential crisis over saving three stray kittens from the rain, Mickey waking up from all the noise, grounding him and the Plutos actually appearing to Mickey (😂) over him being a bad owner. The whole scene ended up on something like "don't you guys have anything better to do than show up out of the blue and argue?" of which they actually get offended by 😂😂😂
While 3:23 does sound like mammy, is 2:27 really also supposed to be mammy? If Disney redubbed it to be a bark I guess so, but no matter how many times I loop it, it just sounds like minnie to me.
the first one i thought was just him saying minnie and the second occurrence i honestly didn't even know what was racist about saying mammy until i just looked it up and found that the racism doesn't come from the fact that there was a stereotype of blacks saying mammy or mammy being a slur like the n word but from the fact that mammy is a alternative version of black face so Pluto is basically just saying black face in both shots
Pluto's shoulder devil and shoulder angel also appear in one of the newer Disney cartoons called "Easy street." Have you seen it? If not you can find it on RUclips.
"Huh?" is definitely a line and not a "(Pluto gasps in realization)" since Huh is a word and not an inquisitive "bow" or "Howl". If Scooby can say worlds like "Ruh" then Huh is a word Pluto said.
I doubt it was expermintation personally, Pluto's first dialouge were mostly gags, and the "Mammy" was just a quick reference to Al Jolson (which was what alot of people did back then). Althought it'd be intresting if they were experimenting with him speaking..
Yeah, the instances in 1930 probably weren't experimentation but were rather what they at the time thought fit the character. In the case of Mickey's Kangaroo, though, they had had four years to figure things out and as such Pluto by then was pretty firmly established as a silent, more animal-like character. So in that regard, I think that having him communicate with words in any way after that time could be labeled "experimentation".
@sheenerandcompany I can see that definitely, thanks for explaining a bit more, they probably did want him to talk at some point time but just never thought it would fit
You know, I initially didn't realize how the line 2:27 was supposed to be racist... until I saw the scene at 3:18. Yeesh. Old Disney sure was something else, huh?
Goofy:" Say Pluto i was wonderin', we're both dogs but i walk & talk upright but you walk on all fours, whats up with that?" /Pluto motions for Goofy to come closer/ Pluto whispers:"...ｉｍ ｊｕｓｔ ａ ｋｉｎｋｙ ｆｕｃｋｅｒ"
I remember a relevent point in the short film "the Brave Little Tailor", where Mickey had just boasted in his "victory", which is misinterpreted by everyone. At that point, a knight (who happens to pretty much be an anthro version of Pluto) goes and tells the King about it. You can _tell_ it's Pluto...
Whole "Why can't Pluto, but Goofy can"... people need to just accept it's an inherent oddity with andromorphic characters. If you're super strict with it, then no character can have a pet and that's just much less fun.
The only time I thought he was talking was when the angle and devil was on his shoulder. It is him after all. Thought I could be mistaken considering there were alot of characters that played that same trope
Dang, I completely forgot that Pluto actually spoke on rare occasions. Could you imagine if Disney decided to do something like this now? I mean, it's unlikely, but...
People have been referring me to a moment in the new preschool show in which he speaks to Daisy during a dream sequence. That's actually quite the imaginative step, but nah! Let's go bigger! Just have him talk out in the open during regular life, just to show that he can but that he chooses not to...
Interestingly, there are also moments in the early Floyd Gottfredson Mickey comics where Pluto has an internal monologue. It's definitely more cursed when there's an audible voice accompanying him, though 💀
reminds me of the gag of Spanky Ham from Drawn Together getting a job as a hostage negotiator and attempts to stop Pluto from killing themselves only to fail
looney tunes director bob clampett was a lover of disney disneys snow white and fantasia were his number one and two favorite movies of all time and those pluto shots from mickeys kangaroo look straight out of a bob clampett cartoon (see rod scribner)
I once saw in the recent Mickey Mouse show, Mickey Mouse Funhouse that Pluto was talking to one of the characters (albeit this one is a dream sequence)
He asks for Mämmi, a Finnish dish that looks like poop, and one word for poop is shit, and shit is brown and brown people are often called shet skins, and that's why it's racist. Finnish people are simply unaccepable in any context... according to Disney.
Never deep dived iirc into disney but fwiw from memory I recall on the occasions of recalling anything from mickey mouse clubhouse.. it was during roll call that pluto barked during the quote on quote roll call so fwiw maybe that counts..vbut ueahcI do recall fwiw wondering why frankly that pluto did not have clothes or talk but that Goofy would.
Nobody who looks on Jolson with derision has any business discussing classic Disney what do you think Mickey and Bosco and other characters like him represented? I'll give you a hint, they didn't use the black ink because it was free.
Does this mean Pluto is just a regular guy like Goofy who just gets treated like an animal? Has Mickey just trained him to not speak and only crawl around like a dog? Pretty disturbing once you really start thinking about it.
@@DerpDerp3001 that’s just what Mickey wants you to think. But Pluto isn’t just mimicking words like a parrot, he’s speaking the English language with full comprehension of the meaning of the words. That is sapience. Pluto has all the same mental capabilities as all the other sapient characters, therefore he is sapient.
Mammy, a Southern dialect term for Mother, often given to black women used as nurses or cooks. There's a whole archetypal character based around stereotypes of said women; a prominant example is Mammy, Scarlet's nurse\slave\servant, from Gone With the Wind.
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goofy is canonically from a diferent species but still a canine, pluto is a domestic dog but goofy is a ''canis lupus goofus'' (that's literally the name of the species lol)
“Stupid wild dog” is a heck of a name for Goofy
0:28 My theory is that it’s like the difference between Chimpanzees and Humans
Agreed
2:57 “A moo- a moo- a moo- a moo- a mo- [struggles]”
[whistles]
“A MOOOOSE!”
Okay, that was funny.
Pluto also used to say (not sure if he still does) he used to say “yeah yeah” when he agreed with something albeit in a whispery scooby doo like way
And here I thought you couldn't draw a line between Pluto and Scooby-Doo, but his portrayal in the climax of The Moose Hunt has officially proven me wrong.
4:24 this internal monologue sounds a lot like the little devil on Plutos shoulder when his conscience was shown that way in a few cartoons, classic angel and devil, which makes Pluto himself seem less malicious like in that clip
That's right! From what I could find, Don Brodie was indeed the OG voice of Pluto's shoulder devil! Great catch!
Pluto once had a shoulder angel who talked to Pluto. It was in reference to Pluto deciding whether, or not, to save a kitten from drowning in a frozen pond.
@@DavidSmith-xs3or Oh yeah, I remember seeing that one. Low-key Pluto was such a jealous bastard back in the day.
The angel/devil plutos were comedy gold, especially in house of mouse. I remember one episode where Pluto was having an existential crisis over saving three stray kittens from the rain, Mickey waking up from all the noise, grounding him and the Plutos actually appearing to Mickey (😂) over him being a bad owner. The whole scene ended up on something like "don't you guys have anything better to do than show up out of the blue and argue?" of which they actually get offended by 😂😂😂
5:47 I do agree, huh is a word also he does say "Yeah yeah yeah" in mickey mouse clubhouse
For those who couldn't understand it, the word Pluto says at 2:27 and 3:23 is "mammy".
While 3:23 does sound like mammy, is 2:27 really also supposed to be mammy? If Disney redubbed it to be a bark I guess so, but no matter how many times I loop it, it just sounds like minnie to me.
the first one i thought was just him saying minnie and the second occurrence i honestly didn't even know what was racist about saying mammy until i just looked it up and found that the racism doesn't come from the fact that there was a stereotype of blacks saying mammy or mammy being a slur like the n word but from the fact that mammy is a alternative version of black face so Pluto is basically just saying black face in both shots
Is that not just mommy with an accent? What's racist about that, I don't understand.
@@TearfulZoruaIt's a reference to Al Jolson's song "Mammy", which was performed in blackface.
@@TearfulZoruaif I remember correctly it’s a reference to an al Jolson song that he sings in blackface or something
Pluto having internal monologues definitely reminds me of characters like Snoopy and Garfield.
I don’t think I’ll _ever_ be able to unhear his voice, even in the meme-compilations
Seeing Pluto talking at random moments makes the character even funnier!
Like how Tom (of "& Jerry") screams with a man's voice.
He should be Pluto's distance away from dialogue.
I for one would LOVE to hear Pluto Talk. And Since he is voiced Bill Farmer who is the same voice of Goofy, What better way to let HIM fit this role.
He talks in Mickey Mouse Funhouse while Daisy dreams
Cus it’s a dream broski 😭
I mean, seeing Pluto talk isn't unheard of. Lend a Paw showed a devil and angel version of himself clearly speaking.
But it is hilarious.
Pluto's shoulder devil and shoulder angel also appear in one of the newer Disney cartoons called "Easy street." Have you seen it? If not you can find it on RUclips.
4:13 That face tho
What I'm saying, Pluto's got a mean mug
Troll Face Pluto
The thumbnail looks like me in a family picture
"Huh?" is definitely a line and not a "(Pluto gasps in realization)" since Huh is a word and not an inquisitive "bow" or "Howl". If Scooby can say worlds like "Ruh" then Huh is a word Pluto said.
My logic as well!
didn't know they did this and thank you and MY EARS MY EARS
Sometime a line is even funnier when it is unexpected
I’m surprised you didn’t include the times when he said “Yeah” 🤨
There were many instances where he said that
Bro should have stayed silent
He kinda zesty tho😭
@@thacow7603 1:46 naw you're right 😂
Pluto is just a completely-deticated-furry. And Mickey is his master. Kinky...
Pluto himself Disney.
what did pluto say at 2:27? Because I heard Minnie so I’m confused 💀
He said "Mammy!" as in this: ruclips.net/video/PIaj7FNHnjQ/видео.htmlsi=Hd-rlaOoR-_TXE1I
It sounds like Minnie
Oh. Since it says racist. I thought it said Ninny .
@@el_mismisimo_sr.xthen why is it racist?
@@el_mismisimo_sr.x he says it again at 3:35. "Mickey! Minnie MAMMY!"
I doubt it was expermintation personally, Pluto's first dialouge were mostly gags, and the "Mammy" was just a quick reference to Al Jolson (which was what alot of people did back then). Althought it'd be intresting if they were experimenting with him speaking..
Yeah, the instances in 1930 probably weren't experimentation but were rather what they at the time thought fit the character. In the case of Mickey's Kangaroo, though, they had had four years to figure things out and as such Pluto by then was pretty firmly established as a silent, more animal-like character. So in that regard, I think that having him communicate with words in any way after that time could be labeled "experimentation".
@sheenerandcompany I can see that definitely, thanks for explaining a bit more, they probably did want him to talk at some point time but just never thought it would fit
Correction ((Which was what a lot of “White” people did back then))
I clearly recall those kind of gags helping to traumatize my early childhood 🙄
I’m definitely glad that The First Two Years of Disney is now officially in The Public Domain.
You know, I initially didn't realize how the line 2:27 was supposed to be racist... until I saw the scene at 3:18.
Yeesh. Old Disney sure was something else, huh?
I am surprised that they never did an episode where Pluto magically gains the ability to talk, that seems like a no brainer tbh.
Can I just say, you picked the perfect image for this video’s thumbnail.
It definitely had me gigglin'! :D
Tbh, when I first saw the thumbnail, it scared the fuck out of me.
Goofy:" Say Pluto i was wonderin', we're both dogs but i walk & talk upright but you walk on all fours, whats up with that?"
/Pluto motions for Goofy to come closer/
Pluto whispers:"...ｉｍ ｊｕｓｔ ａ ｋｉｎｋｙ ｆｕｃｋｅｒ"
That's crazy
Wait, I can barely tell what they're saying: what about 2:27 is racist?
It's vocal alright, he's sobbing, he can barely utter something, but it's there
Pluto had talked, plenty of times, but I loved his good old barking, lol.
3:20
Minnie: Mickey!
Mickey: Minnie!
Pluto: MINNIE!!!!
He said mammy, Al Johnson Was wearing blackface, and Pluto was...
I don't wanna explain this
I thought he said Gimme in terms of the stick
I remember a relevent point in the short film "the Brave Little Tailor", where Mickey had just boasted in his "victory", which is misinterpreted by everyone. At that point, a knight (who happens to pretty much be an anthro version of Pluto) goes and tells the King about it. You can _tell_ it's Pluto...
Hmm, I'll have to check that out!...
Whole "Why can't Pluto, but Goofy can"... people need to just accept it's an inherent oddity with andromorphic characters. If you're super strict with it, then no character can have a pet and that's just much less fun.
One of the Donald Duck comics has Donald say he's domesticated, and that wild ducks aren't. I assume it's the same with Pluto and Goofy
Technically, he still spoke decades even towards the show Mickey Mouse works, where he would say “ yeah yeah yeah” while shaking his head
The second i saw the outro i was like... wait, you're THAT youtuber?
I wish I could communicate how big of a smile this put on my face. It feels so good to be back :)
Pluto also spoke in one of the newer Disney cartoons called Doggone biscuits. In that cartoon we see and hear Pluto say, "meh".
2:26 i'm sorry, what did he say? "CHIMNEY!" is what i heard. Or "MINNY/MICKEY"
4:41 Dan Brodie… naw Brodie.. that’s J.K. Simmons
The only time I thought he was talking was when the angle and devil was on his shoulder. It is him after all. Thought I could be mistaken considering there were alot of characters that played that same trope
I remember him talking in one film that was actually in color. He was saying yes to smth. thats all i can recall
Ya know, Pluto also talked in Daisy and the Missing Dream. Daisy was the only one with Pluto at the time.
Dang, I completely forgot that Pluto actually spoke on rare occasions. Could you imagine if Disney decided to do something like this now? I mean, it's unlikely, but...
People have been referring me to a moment in the new preschool show in which he speaks to Daisy during a dream sequence. That's actually quite the imaginative step, but nah! Let's go bigger! Just have him talk out in the open during regular life, just to show that he can but that he chooses not to...
2:27 How did this even pass for a joke? What's the setup, what's the punchline? It's just lol-so-random type "humor"
I don’t even know what they said
Don't let your pets talk, 40% of Pluto's dialogue counts as a no-no joke.
Somewhere in here is an "oof" joke, but it should be a "woof"
Pluto sounds like he's saying give me
There was a McDonald's collector's glass with a bunch of Disney trivia on it & it notes Pluto's "Kiss me" line as his "only time he spoke". LIES!!
That's what I'm saying, man! Even if you choose not to mention the racist gag attempts, he still pointed out the moose in the same cartoon!
You missed brave little tailer with pluto as a guard on two legs talks to the king!
I didn't even know that Pluto used to talk as a way of Early-Installment Weirdness.
2:27 I dont get what he said, Minnie?
Dino from Flinstones could talk in one episode. He would probably steal the show, while he had more intelligence than whole Bedrock x)
They should revisit that aspect of Pluto sometime.
3:13: so that’s the second time they made Pluto say that.
and in a black joke
MAMMY!
@@NothingPossiblyQuestionMark "I've walked a million miles! for one of your smiles, for my mam, mam! mammy!"
Al Jonson
Pluto is forbidden from speaking because he just can't stop being racist
THE MOOSE!
-pluto
Interestingly, there are also moments in the early Floyd Gottfredson Mickey comics where Pluto has an internal monologue. It's definitely more cursed when there's an audible voice accompanying him, though 💀
I think he also talked in an episode of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse or something like that, I saw it on Instagram
what did pluto say that was ya know wrong rac, i , st?
reminds me of the gag of Spanky Ham from Drawn Together getting a job as a hostage negotiator and attempts to stop Pluto from killing themselves only to fail
looney tunes director bob clampett was a lover of disney disneys snow white and fantasia were his number one and two favorite movies of all time and those pluto shots from mickeys kangaroo look straight out of a bob clampett cartoon (see rod scribner)
I once saw in the recent Mickey Mouse show, Mickey Mouse Funhouse that Pluto was talking to one of the characters (albeit this one is a dream sequence)
My like reached your video two 1K!
Thanks man! With all that I have, I appreciate that!
i thought pluto was a planet
Why do the kangaroo's have mickey heads 💀
And never knew Pluto could talk
The fact he used to freely talk gives more evidence to the "Pluto pretending to be a normal dog as a kink" theory.
The WHAT?!?!?!
2:26 Guys what did he say here? I'm confused sense I Can't hear it. All I hear is muffled voices.
3:19 Mickey Minnie MINNIEHHHhh
What Pluto can speak?!!! 🫨
Please don't scare me that way
Huh is a word
Mickey's kangaroo... creepy
“KisS MeAhHh” 1:47
Goofy is domesticated, Pluto isn’t
5:49 Is it the huh?
4:01 I think that this might be tbe inspiration for roger.jr from the tekken series.
i dont get it, what was the racist joke? 2:25
He asks for Mämmi, a Finnish dish that looks like poop, and one word for poop is shit, and shit is brown and brown people are often called shet skins, and that's why it's racist.
Finnish people are simply unaccepable in any context... according to Disney.
Comparing Goofy and Pluto is silly, it's not much different from comparing a human to a monkey.
What about Mickey Mouse Funhouse? In one of the
Episodes Pluto speaks
0:31
Guy in wheelchair: 😢
SHOW THE SCENES OF PLUTO TALKING DARN IT
I know I yap a bit, but I showed all of them!
@@sheenerandcompany wait you did?
3:17
Oh no Minnie...OH NO MICKEY, OH GEEZ PLUTO YOU TOO!?
Why is the animation so smooth at 3:23?
Hand drawn animation
💜‼️‼️
It’s actually debatable if goofy is actually a dog or not cause at least one account says he is actually a cow and not a dog
He dog
Not this again, he's a dog!
Never deep dived iirc into disney but fwiw from memory I recall on the occasions of recalling anything from mickey mouse clubhouse.. it was during roll call that pluto barked during the quote on quote roll call so fwiw maybe that counts..vbut ueahcI do recall fwiw wondering why frankly that pluto did not have clothes or talk but that Goofy would.
Why does the thumbnail creep me out? 💀 4:31
Achaachaa yeah
2:26 wtf did he even say 💀
Nobody who looks on Jolson with derision has any business discussing classic Disney
what do you think Mickey and Bosco and other characters like him represented? I'll give you a hint, they didn't use the black ink because it was free.
?
Just show the clip
Yeah
what did he say? i'm hearing impaired and the captions blank out.
Mammy
@@genericname2747 what's wrong with that? i've heard little kids saying that to their moms before.
@@CirnoBush Mammy specifically is a thing people would say to make fun of black people, plus I think it was an offensive word for black women
Does this mean Pluto is just a regular guy like Goofy who just gets treated like an animal? Has Mickey just trained him to not speak and only crawl around like a dog? Pretty disturbing once you really start thinking about it.
No, Pluto isn’t sapient, and is a separate species. Goofy is sapient.
@@DerpDerp3001 that’s just what Mickey wants you to think. But Pluto isn’t just mimicking words like a parrot, he’s speaking the English language with full comprehension of the meaning of the words. That is sapience. Pluto has all the same mental capabilities as all the other sapient characters, therefore he is sapient.
I know how to touch grass
But have you seen a-moo, a-moo, a-moo, a moose?
@ yes
@ but not close
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
What was the racist joke? I just heard “gimme”
It's "Mammy".
So um what exactly is pluto saying in the "racist" line. ? I honestly cant even make out what he said
Mammy, a Southern dialect term for Mother, often given to black women used as nurses or cooks. There's a whole archetypal character based around stereotypes of said women; a prominant example is Mammy, Scarlet's nurse\slave\servant, from Gone With the Wind.
Me too.
And after I read the comments, I thank you
@stillbuyvhs thanx. Yeah i know what mammy is but for whatever reason i didnt catch it. Anyways thanks for helping
Racist, not "racist" champ
@ItsNumber84 Pointless correction...
2:24 what diud he say thats racist? minnie?
He said "mammy", which is a degrading term for a black woman used as a housekeeper.
@@Zedrapazia OH. I never heard of that
0:03