My much former and very much modifted Superlight now weighs 9 kilos, with mudguards, and I have latest found a - titanium wedge to hold the fork in front! I don't need disc brakes, as it brakes fine with my modified, ordinary brakes and limited speeds from the 6 gears! Finn. Denmark
Whats the range of tires this can take? One downside is the lack of quick release wheels which would make changing the tires on it much easier. I have 2 20in bikes with Quick release wheels which allows me to change tires depending on where im taking the bike and what season it is. This bike can take slicks and be used for urban riding then also configured for off road which would make it more versatile
Isn't the big advantage of the Brompton design that you can mount a huge bag on the front without making handling sluggish? If it handles like a "normal" bike, that probably means it can no longer carry large bags as well...
@@pierretripon6218 Can carry the same bags doesn't mean that it will handle great. You inherently can't have both "normal" handling without front load, and good handling with a heavy load. If it handles like a "normal" bike, that means a heavy front load will lead to an overly stable or heavy front handling, i.e. you will need more force to control the front wheel, and handling at low speeds can be quite bad. Do you have any experience with front load handling with different front geometries? I have a few different bikes that demonstrate some of these effects quite well. I have both a bike that becomes sluggish and heavy with a front load (a 2023 Fuji Touring, 28" wheels), and one that has overly light handling at the front without a heavy load (a '91 26" Giant ATB).
@@pierretripon6218 The Truth (according to the geometry chart I could find) seems to be that it's still clearly a bike that will need a good load on the front for "normal" handling, and it's just less extreme than previous models. Especially slightly bigger and heavier tires will help a bit.
There is an upgrade kit to make a regular Brompton a bigger wheeled bike. We featured it on GCN earlier in the year in fact. This is different however, they have changed the geometry so it feels very different to ride.
Honestly not as cool as the regular Brompton. The whole point is portability and this just makes it worse at that. Who cares if it can handle a dirt road a little better lmao
@@dna9838Ok, how about this then. My brother brought a C Line Brompton and within 6 months of riding it the pedal sheared off the crank. More so, when he took it to Brompton to get fixed they advised he would need to replace the rear sprocket and chain very soon. The pedal he could have been unlucky with but the other parts, that's half a year of riding and they're done, for a £1,300 bike that is unacceptable. He looks after his bike so well and rides a 20min commute each day, nothing mental. I have a steel bike from the 80's that's seen many more miles in much worse conditions and still going strong.
@@Soonaone very unlucky, but name a bike or manufacturing process or any product that is 100% flawless. Claiming that Brompton reliability in general is dogs**t is just daft and would imagine is at odds with the experience of more owners of Bromptons than the other folding bike brands.
@@dna9838Pahahahaha, you idiot, from "absolute nonsense" to "name a product that's 100% flawless". That was never my line of argument. The fact is that this is not a cheap product. I like the brand, I like the folding engineering but for £1,300 the durability should be better, end of.
@@dna9838Haha, you absolute idiot, from "utter nonsense" to "name a product that's 100% flawless". That was never my line of argument. I like the brand, I like the folding engineering but for a bike that costs £1,300 the durability is not good enough, end of.
@@benjaminplant3734 folding bikes have their spot man. Don't hate Just point like I did they are lying saying this bike feels like a full size one, it doesn't.
Lying again? Didn't you have a mom to tell you when you where little that is wrong to lie? Yeah this bigger wheels are and feel better but this bike even though is good doesn't feel like a full size one at all
I concur with those who ride 20" wheel bikes, they are awesome, have great gear ranges, very adaptable and easier to travel with. They can substitute larger bikes in many instances, but obviously not all.
Because of the way it folds. Even though it has hub gears and is effectively run single speed it still needs a derailleur style tensioner to prevent the chain falling off when you collapse it. You can't really use that style of tensioner with a belt drive and they don't do well with tight radius turns.
One lucky gcn presenter needs to take this brompton to unbounded
I was so expecting him to say “this, is a switch bike!”
And it’s about time. I still use my Brompton daily for commuting in my city. 8.5 mile round trip 5 days a week if I can.
The bigger wider wheels will help with those potholes.
@@davidlazarus67 I guess with bad roads you get on certain places, it might as well be classified as gravel lol.
I still prefer the 16" model for it's portability and weight. The G line is good for those who want more out of a trifold.
@@dfwnick5309 I have no idea why the larger wheels.You don't buy a Brompton for its ride, but for its fold!
I've seen plenty of these on the London to Brighton ride - quite a comfy cruiser if you get the right saddle, apparently.
The brand has a large number of followers; they must be doing something right!
My much former and very much modifted Superlight now weighs 9 kilos, with mudguards, and I have latest found a - titanium wedge to hold the fork in front! I don't need disc brakes, as it brakes fine with my modified, ordinary brakes and limited speeds from the 6 gears! Finn. Denmark
if only i had the money. i can barely afford chinese litepro folding bike. :(
I like the gravel Brompton concept :D !
Gestern bestellt! Als G-Line Electric in Orange! Endlich mal wieder abseits der Straße fahren……ich freue mich 😍
Wie viel hast du gezahlt?
Viel Spaß damit!
@ …ganz normal die 3.999! Aber noch eine Inspektion rausgehandelt! Wird mir wohl Mitte Dezember ausgeliefert…..
Where was this filmed? I'm guessing somewhere in Bath or Bristol maybe?
Anybody?
in Bath! Green Park Station! 👍
Whats the range of tires this can take? One downside is the lack of quick release wheels which would make changing the tires on it much easier. I have 2 20in bikes with Quick release wheels which allows me to change tires depending on where im taking the bike and what season it is. This bike can take slicks and be used for urban riding then also configured for off road which would make it more versatile
Alfine hub precludes quick release wheels.
Not me expecting the data nerd to say it's new design is more aero and saves a whopping 10 watts, making it blooming fast.
quicker escape to whomever steal your brompton eventually
Isn't the big advantage of the Brompton design that you can mount a huge bag on the front without making handling sluggish? If it handles like a "normal" bike, that probably means it can no longer carry large bags as well...
Wrong
@pierretripon6218 why?
Because it can carry the same front bags as the 16 B
@@pierretripon6218 Can carry the same bags doesn't mean that it will handle great. You inherently can't have both "normal" handling without front load, and good handling with a heavy load. If it handles like a "normal" bike, that means a heavy front load will lead to an overly stable or heavy front handling, i.e. you will need more force to control the front wheel, and handling at low speeds can be quite bad.
Do you have any experience with front load handling with different front geometries? I have a few different bikes that demonstrate some of these effects quite well.
I have both a bike that becomes sluggish and heavy with a front load (a 2023 Fuji Touring, 28" wheels), and one that has overly light handling at the front without a heavy load (a '91 26" Giant ATB).
@@pierretripon6218 The Truth (according to the geometry chart I could find) seems to be that it's still clearly a bike that will need a good load on the front for "normal" handling, and it's just less extreme than previous models. Especially slightly bigger and heavier tires will help a bit.
What's the gear inch range?
So if we change the rear triangle and the forks we get it hold bigger wheels and mayb borrow ebike part from other manufacturers hmm
There is an upgrade kit to make a regular Brompton a bigger wheeled bike. We featured it on GCN earlier in the year in fact. This is different however, they have changed the geometry so it feels very different to ride.
Guess the coolest thing is the conventional gearing
And I don’t want to know how much it’s going to cost.
The entry thoo
i dont think the alfine 8 speed is very good, i only use like 3 of its speeds.. feels like it only has 3-4 gears
The wider tires are not for gravel but degrading roads full of potholes
now we just need an ebike version of this and I would buy it
Apparently they also made one of those.
E-bikes are eating their lunch.
Weight is probably something awful. Not great for carrying up and down stairs at a train station.
33lbs. If you can’t handle that, that’s on you! 😂
@@YerDad632 , Going up and down stairs in 33ºC and humidity is tough for me. But yeah, I'm a wuss with no upper body strength.
If you can’t carry 14 kilograms, You need to see a doctor
Too big to be truly portable, too heavy and too expensive.
Honestly not as cool as the regular Brompton. The whole point is portability and this just makes it worse at that. Who cares if it can handle a dirt road a little better lmao
People like me who ride dirt roads… and crap roads with potholes, ie most roads. 🤷🏼♂️
Over 15kgs for a folder that costs over 3 grands. People are gullible
Pointless; will be very dangerous to go downhill.
Too big and too heavy
Nice but overpriced. I could get a decent road bike for that price tag.
Shame the durability on Brompton's is dog shit
What utter nonsense lol. Durability is one of the MAIN BENEFITS of Bromptons and why so many owners keep them for decades.
@@dna9838Ok, how about this then. My brother brought a C Line Brompton and within 6 months of riding it the pedal sheared off the crank. More so, when he took it to Brompton to get fixed they advised he would need to replace the rear sprocket and chain very soon. The pedal he could have been unlucky with but the other parts, that's half a year of riding and they're done, for a £1,300 bike that is unacceptable.
He looks after his bike so well and rides a 20min commute each day, nothing mental.
I have a steel bike from the 80's that's seen many more miles in much worse conditions and still going strong.
@@Soonaone very unlucky, but name a bike or manufacturing process or any product that is 100% flawless. Claiming that Brompton reliability in general is dogs**t is just daft and would imagine is at odds with the experience of more owners of Bromptons than the other folding bike brands.
@@dna9838Pahahahaha, you idiot, from "absolute nonsense" to "name a product that's 100% flawless". That was never my line of argument. The fact is that this is not a cheap product. I like the brand, I like the folding engineering but for £1,300 the durability should be better, end of.
@@dna9838Haha, you absolute idiot, from "utter nonsense" to "name a product that's 100% flawless". That was never my line of argument.
I like the brand, I like the folding engineering but for a bike that costs £1,300 the durability is not good enough, end of.
Total waste of time. Expensive toy for people who don't know how to use Amazon and have too much money
Are you that poor and broke???
@@benjaminplant3734 folding bikes have their spot man. Don't hate
Just point like I did they are lying saying this bike feels like a full size one, it doesn't.
What does using Amazon have to do with this?
@@zachb.6179Arguing there are alternatives for less cost.
@@zachb.6179he likes shitty knockoff bikes.
Lying again? Didn't you have a mom to tell you when you where little that is wrong to lie?
Yeah this bigger wheels are and feel better but this bike even though is good doesn't feel like a full size one at all
Nope
I spent quite a lot of time riding it, and it genuinely does feel like a full size bike to me. Cheers, Si
You’ve ridden one then?
@@YerDad632 yup
I concur with those who ride 20" wheel bikes, they are awesome, have great gear ranges, very adaptable and easier to travel with. They can substitute larger bikes in many instances, but obviously not all.
And more expensive.
Honestly don't get why it's not belt drive, it's my biggest niggle with the regular one...
Because of the way it folds. Even though it has hub gears and is effectively run single speed it still needs a derailleur style tensioner to prevent the chain falling off when you collapse it. You can't really use that style of tensioner with a belt drive and they don't do well with tight radius turns.
Belt drive sucks. Learn how to lube and measure your chain.
@@YerDad632 what sucks about belt drives?