'The best she's been and she was appalling' | PMQs Analysed | LBC
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Keir Starmer is back and faces Kemi Badenoch in this week's PMQs. James O’Brien and LBC’s Political Editor, Natasha Clark offer their analysis.
The Prime Minister was challenged on topics such as farmers, taxes, business and jobs - amid anger over employment reforms this week, protests over inheritance tax and as 1100 jobs are at risk with the closure of Vauxhall’s factory in Luton, a move made in the context of the stringent" UK zero-emission vehicle mandate.
'That was absolutely extraordinary.'
'I think that's the best she's been and she was appalling.'
'She was a lot calmer to start with.'
'As it went on, she did lose the room a little bit.'
'She's still settling into an incredibly difficult job.'
'Keir Starmer needs to engage more with the questions.'
'How many years before they stop blaming each other?'
'It's sometimes just about holding their feet to the fire.'
'He batted away the question on the 2030 EV car ban.'
'That's where I'd expect that kind of comment, the school playground.'
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The problem with the tories is they ask questions to problems they created it's fcukin comical
Well said, it’s insane.
They're a joke. Complaining about petrol cars being phased out, even-though Badenouch introduced the legislation.
The problem with the tories is they're the same party as Labour
@@sonofsomerset1695 ok another comic 😂
@@sonofsomerset1695 Almost, but you spelt the last word wrong. It starts with an R and ends with 'eform'. Sister parties, both have the same policies, both inept.
I can't believe that Badenoch said "everything's broken". Err, yes it is. And how do you think that happened? Talk about an own goal!!!
Who’s in charge?
Who broke it?
@@Anon-commenter
@@sydnorth5868 like Labour could fix the damage they did, in what? 4 months? Hilarious really.
Broken by the toryLabour uni party, thats why anyone with sense votes Reform now.
Tony Blurr is where many of our problems were sewn. Stand up for your country, not a circus party
The opposition leader was an embarrassment. When going on the attack what she actually did is list the charge sheet of 14 years of conservative failure
And keir Starmer isn't an embarrassment? The man is a complete bore repeating the same things over and over again! 😴
We need to fix the foundations...😴the deficit...😴the 22 billion pound black hole....😴😴😴
We might as well have a robot as PM. I am sure it couldnt do any worse! 🤖
Watching Keir in action made me feel nostalgic for Boris Johnson.
The man might well be a clown but at least he was magnetically colourful, and had character and charisma.
How I miss the legendary, and never to be forgotten Boris 🙂 🤡
Conservative and Labour have been no better than each other so maybe its time for a change let's listen to Nigel Farage
@@JoannaFerris-j9m Let's not. Fascism didn't help Italy or Germany in the 30's did it?
@@JoannaFerris-j9m Out and out Grifter. Clacton soon found out who he represents!
Time that she gives her massive ego a rest and reconsiders what she and the Tories did for the last 14 years.
She lies about there being no farming protests to their government. The farmers were in Westminster in March too, the papers have photos.
I liked the bit where Kemi lied about there being no tractors outside Westminster at the last Tory budget. I hope she'll put the record straight.
Agreed, farmers protesting about increased food imports as a result of Tory negotiated post-Brexit Trade deals. Some of which were defended by a certain Ms K Badenoch. 😀
"I hope she'll put the record straight". An old saying, you live in hopes and die in despair.
@@petefl1818 Nice one Confucius.
Skimpy Badenough did seem to go on and on about Starmer Jet Setting to Foreign meetings, while she was a minor Junior Minister who Jet Setted around the World, trying to arrange Post Brexit Trade Deals to replace the EC Trade Deals. Just like a Far Worse Liz Truss!!!
Rachel from accounts lies as easily as she breathes.......She must go.
Is Natasha Clark working for the Tories - another embarrassing performance by Kemi, zero ideas and full of contradictions.
That's very childish, by the logic you adopt anyone who isn't zealously partisan for your side is working for the other side. That kind of reflexive tribalism is extremely immature and harmful to democracies.
Who you vote for, which policies you prefer is always up to you, but you don't get to accuse people of being bought, or employed by 'the other side' because they didn't say exactly what you wanted every time.
It's a complete House of Commons of zero ideas!
She is a Tory, so yeah.
Tories are seemingly utterly shameless
@@timbonfield3589 i don’t think they realise they aren’t in charge anymore. They’re too used to looking down their noses at everyone.
Labour are not far behind 😂
@@FoghornLeghornyThings are getting worse in the country, Labour must be in Government!
@ they aren’t though.
@@silondon9010 i think they’ve done well so far.
Natasha doesn’t understand the issue on EVs. Many car manufacturers want 2030 in place. They’ve been ramping up ready for it. The issue is that before then they have targets to hit each year on EV sales or they can buy the target from EV manufacturers. These targets are struggling because EV costs have spiralled and manufacturers continued (through their own stupidity) to make EVs as the luxury expensive option. So they aren’t hitting annual targets as people are opting for ICE and hybrid to save money. Pushing the date back would actually be disastrous because it would create more limbo and more difficulty for car manufacturers to transition their production lines to EV. However I have little sympathy with many manufacturers who insist on making their EVs crazy prices. We need smaller, cheaper EVs to be the norm and Dacia, Hyundai etc are showing it’s more than possible.
EVs are an environmental disaster, due to all the mining needed for the huge amounts of raw materials they need. Compare that to a simple ICE which weighs much less and simply consists of an engine block with some cylinders drilled into it. Also, we are about to have rolling black outs because we have no electricity generation. So how will you charge your EV in a black out? Better to have a variety of power sources, including petrol, or society will collapse. I will never, ever, buy and EV. The only way forward for electric transport is electrification of mass transportation systems, i.e.e electric trams etc - which the UK had repeatedly shown it is too incompetent to build.
@ The problem with this argument is that EVs and shifting from fossil fuels is not a zero sum game. The advantage of reducing emissions are significant. As it stands the only option are EVs and people pointing out why EVs aren’t ideal are not wrong but at the same time…they are much better than ICE in terms of emissions over lifetime. Even factoring in the higher material and production costs. They are better. Is there something even better? Maybe but not in the next two decades.
@@JupiterThunder That's not a correct statement. Whilst EV's are not the ultimate green solution, they are a significant improvement over internal combustion engines burning fossil fuels. The mining etc is more damaging than the mining of iron ore used for ICE engine blocks. In terms of overall mass of metal extracted, the Cobalt used for Anodes and Cathodes is a fraction of the Iron Ore used for the engine block. The refinement of iron ore into a useful steel is not clean either. Current fossil fuel powered furnaces are still used at most refineries. Electric Arc Furnaces are being developed but you have the same ultimate question to answer about the impact on the grid for these furnaces, most of which will receive power from the incineration of municipal waste. A process which is incredibly inefficient and not a green energy production in any way. It is true that production of electric cars does produce more green house gases, but it is not as clear cut as saying it is an absolute issue of one being much worse than the other.
The ultimate analysis developed by the Observer shows that the additional Carbon Debt produced in the manufacture of electric vehicles is paid off within 1 year of normal use, and from then on it is an improvement over a combustion engine.
The other factors to consider are regarding electric car utilisation itself. Whilst the vehicle is heaver, the use of regenerative braking prevents the excess mass from generating more particulate release in the form of brake dust. Additional tyre wear is a consideration from the increased weight but the absolute control of torque will reduce tyre wear through acceleration.
The exhausts and subsequent local emissions are the key consideration for moving away from Fossil Fuel ICE. Combustion engines running on a direct drive to the wheels (via a crank shaft) have significant variances in resistance and speed etc. So the combustion itself cannot operate in a steady state and hit the optimum stoichiometric ratio of air to fuel to be most efficient. The emissions of direct drive combustion engines is far worse than any book figures given. Diesel itself is appalling and must be banned. The longer Hydrocarbon chains within Diesel produce varying compounds on emission. The fact that they laud diesels for low CO2 emissions is frightening. Fully combusting a Hydrocarbon would produce CO2. So the fact that they are tailored to emit low CO2 results in a much lower combustion efficiency, and the emission of longer partial combusted hydrocarbons. Most of which are far more environmentally damaging and harmful to humans. There is also a significant particulate content as well. These gases released tend to be heavier than air and on a cold exhaust, most will sit just above ground level. The school drop off, where people leave just recently started cars running will cause a high concentration of damaging gases / particulate at the level for maximum exposure for Children.
Ultimately, using a green source combustion (Hydrogen or Algae Biofuels) on an engine working only as a generator for a hybrid powered car is the most environmentally friendly alternative. Even that comes with the issue of sourcing materials for the hybrid batteries and the production of NOx in combustion.
Electrification of mass transport, and serious investment in the mass transport infrastructure, is a significant step we must take forward. But the core of this country is car driving and we do not have the time or resources to change that enough before too much environmental damage is too severe. We have to deal with the immediate issue of combustion engine cars.
I say all this, not to try and argue, but to raise the point that this is an incredibly complicated issue and that we can't talk in absolutes as we push for the most environmentally friendly alternative. I'm an engineer, I studied Automotive Engineering. I did my dissertation in alternative fuels and found my passion in environmental engineering. I have worked as the technical manager at an air pollution control company for over a decade and I am certain I do not have all the information or an answer to give as a definite.
The tories seem to forget the entire country voted them out because of all this rhetoric! Like us the general population have forgotten the last 14 years 😂😂😂😂
Natasha Clark is so blatantly a Tory it's unreal
She talks of tractors protesting in parliament square??? Millions since 2010 protested in the streets of london and tories totally ignored it all as did the uk media how many marched for NHS,the cuts the poor and disabled deaths,due to cuts.strikes from NHS,railways workers,etc..yet they mention a few tractors.....dear me
Typical arrogance from the left who think farmers are disposable country bumpkins instead of the backbone of this country who we depend upon to feed us! 🙄
Natasha always defending the Tories. The Murdoch training is so strong.
She says what she must to give a balanced report. And if you're to report on the two front benches evenly, you'll big up the Tory bench out of mercy.
@@danmayberry1185 That isn't balance, it's like if you watched a debate between a highly accredited scientist and a monkey flinging it's own excrement and then for balance saying the monkey's overhead throw was great so he wins.
@@danmayberry1185
😂 She's to report, not distort.
@@danmayberry1185balance is a cop out, she should report on reality. Balance only works where there is equality of ideals.
@col.hertford9855 You're right. At the same time, balanced journalism is like a balanced diet. A news outlet can achieve balance within each report, or by the end of the day, or the end of the week. James' segment tends to the left. Were Natasha to report within Nick Ferrari's segment, she might be inclined to poke holes in the Tory bench or vindicate Starmer's points.
When you watch this circus you start to wonder why the UK is regarded as a civilized society.
No we gave up civilisation ages ago, it's overrated.
I didn't think PMQs questions ever actually got answers 😝
I'm not hugely keen of Starmer but he does at least answer the genuine questions. Of course he isn't going to answer the ones that are put forward purely to land political punches - why would he?!
In 14 years never heard an answer...
Kemi was appalling. She asks clueless questions and provides no answers!
The Tories broke Britain! Fact!
It's literally prime ministers questions 😂
She's there to ask questions
True. But her questions were ridiculous. This so-called petition smells of the product from BOT farming! She asked questions of why Britain was broken?
Answer: it was the Tories! And Refuk plc!
And Labour's answer are...??
Badenoch’s mum flew to England to give birth to Kemi, and shortly afterwards flew back to Nigeria. Nowadays we call this « health tourism ». It also meant that Kemi could claim British citizenship, something she abhors granting to anyone else.
They've got to stop blaming one another, pray tell us what have Labour got to take the blame for the 14 years of Tory gross mismanagement.
I love that they have Truss and Bojo acolytes sat either side of her. Just in case the public have forgotten.
When Priti Patel is your biggest cheerleader, something is horribly wrong...
James with his new “alternative history” PMQ review. Kemi smashed Keir. All he said was “fixing the foundations” and “black hole”
Sticking to his comedy script, incapable of ever actually answering a question. The clown's abysmal.
She wanted the position, she can't do it, normal people would resign if they were that bad at their job. The Tories are finished.
Same as May, same as BogJob, same as Truss. All desperate for the top job, but with zero intent or ability to actually do that job.
I honestly thought you were talking about Rachel Reeve
It's called a DEI hire.
Slowly followed by Labour within 4 years!
Genuinely thought you were talking about Reeves. That's hilarious
I have always hated the Tories, but I feel a wee bit sorry for them. She's terrible.
You should worry about Labour only getting one term, then in the background for another 30 years maybe longer. No, definitely longer!
Don't criticise starmer James whatever you do !
PMQs is the ultimate ashtray on a motorbike.
Politics in this country is totally broken. Pretty much every MP is totally inept and not fit for purpose irrespective of what party they are from.
I bought some McVities digestives the other day and they were made in Germany.
Cost of labour is cheaper there
Originally a Scottish company so no loyalty to any location
We can um and ah about who said what better but it all boils down to what she said "everything is broken" and ultimately it is her party who broke everything. So she hasn't got a leg to stand on.
Accurate, but have labour made things better or worse so far?
You mean the disastrous lockdown? Wonder where that black hole came from?
This woman is dreadful, consistently defending the tories.....does she actually watch this thing.
You obviously don't boyo.😊
Do you?😊
Shes so gorgeous though
@@chatham43 alas yes
"Jeering and chanting"...this is a room for adults apparently.
She's like "You have to answer to me now!" And Starmer is like "Who are you?"
Starmer never answers. There is no point in watching PMQS if keir either:
a) Lies
b) Doesn't answer the question!
She was utterly dreadful
How many letters have gone in to the 1922 committee?
Such a biased man is James.
I don't always like her manner, but there is nothing dull about Badenoch. .
She’s not dull but she’s out of her depth.
The entire jeering and unprofessional behaviour needs to stop. I am baffled that MPs continue to behave like that
Badenoch is not a leader that much is clear shoutty and stumbling .
I love this show its so funny😂😂😂
Badenock says everything is broken.. Well it ws broken under the Tories, now they are being fixed.. slowly, but it is beibg fixed.. Wll done Starme and the Labour Government
Like what?
Throwing funding at poorly managed services without any clear plan.
Taxes for everyone up, growth down, inflation up, soon to be unemployment up, IHT up, and wait until the excess deaths hit from them ripping the winter fuel payment off pensioners on about 13k a year.
I think I can be objective, what is actually getting better?
Stop using the line it’s what we have inherited, cannot use that for the next four years surely
You need to give evidence of being "fixed" no one apart from the deluded can see it!
@@GGeJJ1You're wrong though because Labour isn't just throwing money at public services. They are pushing through reforms in almost every sector.
So slowly we're going backwards!
James OB clearly doesn't like Kemi B. I doubt there's anything she can do that will change his mind.
Bad enough is terrible
I think she's absolutely brilliant sign the petition gets starmer out sick sick of liars
I think badenoch always sounds so condescending, I think she couldn’t stand a serious debate , she will just fly off the handle and spew her ignorance. Irritating.
The most pointless meeting in any organisation. What an embarrassment to the United Kingdom.
Did you miss Brexit? Or the lettuce?
@@weswheel4834 Brexit and the Lettuce would still have happened and existed without PMQs. It is quite literally a pointless event, in the sense that there is no agenda, and no expected outcomes. Just some shouting,. It could be cancelled and never take place again, and it would make no difference.
I think it’s archaic that jeering and bellowing in government debates is still allowed in the House of Commons, from any side of the political spectrum.
She clearly has no logical plans and just wants to play the witty panto villain and be on the attack with no tact...
You obviously don't believe that. You're not dumb. You went to the right schools...correct?
The behaviour at PMQs is a national embarrassment and I feel ashamed not to be actively complicit in stopping it. When will government take astronomical suffering seriously. As long as they’re having fun, that’s alright then
Natasha is totally tufton street
Posh tottie?
Liz Truss with slightly more intelligence
@@andrewmark2783 perfect brilliant 😂
@@JupiterThunder i think she is probably trying to get a press job with CCHQ
Vauxhall = Brexit benefits? I wish the Labour would continually make this point!
Brexit 2016?
We're not making plans for Nigel!😊
Perfectly accurate title. Honeslty at this point please just let the Lib Dems or even the greens a chance to do it instead.
An no not reform they're just worse tories.
So you want yet another paty that will put its people last and put pointless net zero virtue signalling first, the same as Labour and the tories, great, are you the son of Baldrick by any chance? You do know the major countries are doing the opposite and laughing at us while we waste money dont you, Russia, China, India, all of Africa and soon America again.
Sky appeared to defend her to the hilt. They really have got the knife in Starmers back
Çant blame them really old girl!
Can't blame them. Why are you defending him?
@@chatham43 I'm not. Just want to see an even playing field. If Labour does something unpopular due to the last 14 years they get all the blame. Today the migrant figures will be lower and you can bet your bottom dollar that Sky will give the credit to the Tories.
@@chatham43because he’s trying to fix the country after fourteen years of Tory disasters.
What happened to the Conservatives?!do they not have any intelligent or normal politicians any more?Labour has got a terrible jobb!
What happened was that Johnson sacked anyone who disagreed with him. (Similar to what Don is doing in the US).
As a Norwegian fan of Britain I hope that Britain will overcome these problems !
Dear Wes ! I fear that you are right! Still I have faith in Britain! You shall overcome!
The tories only have a shallow talent puddle to draw from
Normal? Intelligent? Sorry but Tories were never that! That is an unreachable aim in their lives.
Most people in a new job are actually fine at it while they constantly doubt themselves. Badenoch has the opposite. What’s the opposite of Imposter Syndrome?
Disaster Syndrome? Hopeless Optimism Syndrome?
Dunning-Kruger Effect
Excessive confidence in one's abilities that don't reflect reality.
Yup ...Dunning Kruger.....or just totally out there Walter Mitty syndrome.
She's educated beyond her ability
Imposter
Ed Davey yet again the voice of intelligence among the clown show.
@@stevethornhill3304 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Off topic, but I read in todays paper that one of the exports that would be badly effected by Donald's tariffs is the UK fishing industry exports. What fish do we export to the US. Genuine question, just asking.
Salmon
I can’t even begin to comprehend how it’s a tough decision to let someone decide to take their own life ?
If they are of sound mind, where’s the issue ? and why do we need someone with an inflated ego of their own self worth whose getting paid expenses to cast their mind towards it ?
Get it done, it’s humane to do so, it’s a stupendous no brainier.
It’a completely evil the current system that’s in place when we are seeing every single day people throwing themselves in front of trains and jumping off of bridges !!
People end up on lots of meds. If you have ever seen people try to leave it's not pleasant but they must not feel pushed by anyone.
She is the rudest caretaker leader of the opposition to date.
Bad Enoch is an empty vessel.
Kemi focus's on her accent and NOT on her content. She has far to go, well she has no competition does she!.
What a pantomime from Badenoch with lots of meaningless gesticulations and entirely without commitment to any relevant issue or with without any substance!
2.7 million votes is peanuts. If it was 20.7 million votes...it still wouldn't make a difference. Give them time to make or break things.
Its all reform voters and bots anyway
Where does she think she is? She is supposed to be His Majesty’s Leader of the Opposition. Spouting silly school kid jokes when she hasn’t got anything more constructive to say. She doesn’t offer any solutions either. This whole episode is disgraceful on both sides. Jeering, cheering and shouting ?…??If they want people to be engaged with their politicians they should come up with better behaviour than this.
The LBC political editor is such an obvious Tory.
That’s it JOB focus on the shadow cabinet and avoid looking at anything the labour government are currently doing.
Are we going to talk about the call for blasphemy laws or would that be blasphemous ?
Blasphemy Laws belong in Islamic Countries, Authoritarian States or the 7th century, NOT in Britain, I say if he wants that, he can find 2 out of 3 of them he can go to!
At first i thought starmer was winding us up for a laugh, by being so terrible, I'm being to worry he might be for real.
Was there mention of the push for blasphemy laws from that labour MP and seemingly supported by Kier?
No need for Kemi to provide policies as yet,...plenty of time for that.
She's performing very well, ripping apart the Clown's blundering failures and own goals.
😂 she is the most incompetent caretaker leader of the opposition to date 😂everybody knows it.
@@Yorkshire321 Grow up, she's ripping him apart. He offers only impudence and arrogance in response. WORST EVER PM. Get rid...NOW!
@@ByJimineeItsBREXIT-z2k Well the majority of people in the country don't seem to agree with you
Get rid of James!
How can anyone oppose assisted dying? So they would rather see someone in agony, just to assuage their loopy belief systems.
Biggest arsenal on lbc
Natasha's not bad at this politics lark, is she? Hope BBC are watching as they hurry (hopefully) to find a replacement for Laura!
Kemi Bad Athis
You got done by a farmer
shes repectful of the speaker, no???
The Tories lack self- awareness. They broke it & ask why it is broken
O'brien's been around for ages and he's still appalling.
Tash likes to defend the tories
should of just replied "Liz Truss" and sat down again.
Their budget is just as bad.
@rb1062 how so? No one is paying more in their mortgages after this budget. I'd see how we all feel in 4 years and not after 4 months!
@@andybullemor-music5928 Are you kidding? NI has gone up, car tax has gone up, inheritance tax for farmers, VAT on private schools, student fees ... All this affects everyone! Yes, get back to me in 4 years and tell me how the economy has grown!!! We'll be with the IMF by then.
@@rb1062Half of those only affect a very small minority, who happen to be the wealthiest in society.
Til they stop blaming one another…the only question worth asking…and guess what the answer is never. That’s how controlled opposition works. And it work so well it will go on forever til people wise up.
And no, they’re not all ‘in on it’ they’re all none the wiser, as anyone else that hasn’t noticed how this is just always what happens everywhere
Kemi Bad Enoch is so bad.
And yet she is the best the Tories have. They have no legs to stand on.
I want you to take a slightly more balanced approach. Your biased stance is getting so predictable.
A great review of pmq’s
There is no left & right party now people…wakey wakey. 🌍
I disagree, she was even worse today than the previous two times. She's a truly awful debater.
Badenough is one a hiding to nothing and won’t last long saying the same old things blaming something her party had created.
You mean the disastrous lockdown. Absolutely agree. A price we'll be paying for a generation!
`political editor' 🤣
Oh by the way how did the CBI speech go.
Rachel from accounts, has now been told to stay quiet
He doesn't answer the questions but hes not first pm to doge question at PMQS wont be the last 😊
Can you just stop being so biased . Kier startmer leans forward with his red face and trotts out quips that are well reversed and then leans back with a satisfied look the one who is doing badly is him. He has had years or pratice and yet he still sounds like an overgrown school boy.
Dalek sticking to his feeble comedy answers,....he's utterly useless.
I’m sorry? Going in on FARMERS matters to people????? It might matter to TAX AVOIDING ‘FARMERS’ but it doesn’t to ACTUAL farmers. You two need to give your heads a wobble.
Labour and Tory are two cheeks of the same axxe
James is as smug and awful as kier Starmer
Can the controlled order and consensus necessary to even start repairing the country come out the partisan point scoring mess that is PMQs?
No, that's not what PMQs is for. No one is expecting them to shake hands over it and agree a deal to fix the country. Or they shouldn't be, anyway.
@@weswheel4834 Hey Wesley.
Still not a single answer from starmer..its just like how he won the election..saying nothing and providing no answers, the only thing I know is his dad was a tool maker and the special stock answer is "I was director of public prosecutions" 😂
Ohbrainless not intrested in job losses that are just around the corner , but just so long as there not public sector jobs
Kemi can afford a few mistakes for the time being, and she will get better with time. Starmer will need to do better than play the same broken record of Tory black hole and fix the foundation etc .Unless the economy improves quickly, he could find himself under a lot of pressure in no time at PMQ.
You speak as if Labour have been in charge for a decade...
Kemi is a gift.
Improve 14 years of decline quickly...like in 4 months? Another one who thinks things can instantly improve. It's a bit infantile:
Only O'Brien can ignore the smug, self absorbed Starmer, who once again hasn't answered one question in any PMQ'S.
Biased idiot.
Not sure we saw Sunak, Truss, Johnson or May answer questions either did we? You seem to be missing the point.
Also he answered the first question today, I remember it. She asked if he'd say that no taxes would rise, and he said he wasn't going to give her the budgets for the next 5 years now. So, that's an answer.
In the few months that Sir Kier has been the PM he has answered more questions at PMQ's and in press interviews than the combined total of those asked to Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak and their respective deputies combined over more than 14 years.
And only now you complain ... 🤔
@@michaelgoode9555tell us a story jackanory.
remind us when a Tory answered a question at PMQ's
James Rachel from accounts lies as easily as she breathes.......She must go James..
Sanctimonious piffle
The assisted dying bill should be a referendum not down to MP’s.
Oh no not a referendum! Sh! Farage is not around is he?
Why?
I’m glad she’s so bad, though not to laugh at the tories. It’s mainly so I don’t feel like I have to watch PMQs anymore and can just watch this to catch up.
Yeah anyone with any independent thought has to vote Reform now after these two disasterous governments.