AMD lets you OC VRAM on the RX 7900 GRE - now a GREAT GPU...?!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
  • AMD have unlocked the VRAM slider from previous 2316MHz to now 3000MHz, however.... does this now give us the BIG gains that we were hoping for in our original review? Well let's retest and it's only fair to test against the RTX 4070 Super in a similar scenario.
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    00:00 you can now overclock the 18gbps vram, though my two samples show where it caps out at.
    01:40 Gaming Benchmarks, 1080p and 1440p, rasterization and ray tracing.
    04:15 What is going on with the RX 7900 GRE performance?
    06:04 Does it get any better with different vendor models?
    07:02 NEW Recommendation, also what about others showing higher memory OCs?
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  • @techyescity
    @techyescity  Месяц назад +17

    Checking GPU-Z on both cards confirms that it is Samsung GDDR6 being used. Others have reported receiving Hynix GDDR6 chips in their 7900 GREs, if so let me know which maker model you have purchased.

    • @neofitosmihail4272
      @neofitosmihail4272 Месяц назад

      on sapphire nitro+ 7900xtx it uses Hynix sooo maybe the premium models use Hynix and the non premium models like pulse use Samsung

    • @verneeiro
      @verneeiro Месяц назад +2

      I got a Nitro+ with Hynix memory, awesome looking card and all but crashes with 2350 MHz on the VRAM already, but only when idling.

    • @neofitosmihail4272
      @neofitosmihail4272 Месяц назад +1

      @@verneeiro what nitro+ you got 7### xt gre xtx ???

    • @verneeiro
      @verneeiro Месяц назад +2

      @@neofitosmihail4272 GRE, isn't this about the GRE?

    • @neofitosmihail4272
      @neofitosmihail4272 Месяц назад +1

      @@verneeiro yep do more search because from what you talk is windows problem or driver

  • @timstuart7112
    @timstuart7112 Месяц назад +21

    Brian - another RUclipsr, his channel is Ancient Game Plays, did a video on overclocking the vram on the GRE and said that the vram speed is limited unless you overclock the GPU core as well. He theorized that without it your vram overclocking will be limited. If you haven’t seen it just do a search for Ancient Game Plays RX 7800XT vs RX 7900GRE.

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад +13

      Hey man, tried that out, would crash eventually after playing dota 2. So might be ok for a few benchmark runs, but not 100% stable. Can overclock the core as well, but at that stage you can overclock anything else in a similar fashion and it just becomes a race to mass over power consumption.

    • @timstuart7112
      @timstuart7112 Месяц назад +3

      @@techyescity Total cool that you replied😉. Too bad I thought it was worth a try, like with anything else it was worth a try. I was sure that you would have been familiar with his video anyway.

    • @CrashPilot1000
      @CrashPilot1000 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@techyescity Have you tried running GPU-Z in the background to show the memory controller load in percent? This way you see when the GPU memory controller is saturated and if increasing the vRam MHz doesn't bring it down, the GPU MHz should be raised etc etc

  • @Willbme4EVA
    @Willbme4EVA Месяц назад +8

    That is some sweet editing on the B roll. Thanks for putting in all the extra effort on testing.

  • @jb678901
    @jb678901 Месяц назад +46

    IMHO, great card. Bought it for the eldest teen in the home. She loves it. I undervolted it (-25mV), increased VRAM to ~2500MHz, adjusted power to +7%. All good.

    • @elitepauper7400
      @elitepauper7400 Месяц назад +1

      I would just max out the power slider lol. I'm running+15 on my XT with 3000 on the core and 2650 on the memory using fast timings

    • @justisstudding2101
      @justisstudding2101 Месяц назад +2

      @@elitepauper7400 Both cards are not the same.

    • @elitepauper7400
      @elitepauper7400 Месяц назад +6

      @@justisstudding2101 doesn't change the fact that you wouldn't just max the power slider out. It's literally free performance on any card

    • @lupintheiii3055
      @lupintheiii3055 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@elitepauper7400No, it's more performance for more power.
      Undervolting is indeed free performance since you don't have to even rise powerlimit

    • @xXkillalzXx
      @xXkillalzXx Месяц назад +3

      i wish i had a dad like you oh my

  • @TouzeenHussain
    @TouzeenHussain Месяц назад +7

    Thanks for the video. Sapphire PURE here.
    I get a Max Core Boost of 2873. Max stable VRAM is 2450 at 1010V Fast Timings.
    Alana Wake 2 @1440p Avg FPS increased from 60 to 67. 0.1 FPS increased from 45 to 55.
    Most other games are 100+ so the OC isnt really worth it.

  • @ahmettaneri
    @ahmettaneri Месяц назад +6

    Increasing power limit and undervolting maybe help further oc results... what other guys usually does when oc tests.

  • @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390
    @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 Месяц назад +3

    Hi, it's not the bus width either, but the smaller L3 cache. The same goes for the 4070 Ti Super and 4080. The Nvidia cards are really similar in terms of bandwidth, but the cache is way larger on the 4080.

  • @streetguru9350
    @streetguru9350 Месяц назад +24

    Really sad how the RX 6800/XT still hasn't really been beat by AMD 4 years later. I think I'm going to keep trying to wait for the 8000 series.

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 Месяц назад +1

      Do you like a 5700 XT like card? Because that is what AMD has in the 8000 series, nothing higher tier. It won't be much of an upgrade from the 6800 XT, a bit but not much. You will likely have to wait for the 9000-series.

    • @streetguru9350
      @streetguru9350 Месяц назад +5

      @@peterjansen4826 It's probably going to cost the same as the 7900 GRE, but it might have better ray tracing or something. Prolly lower power?
      Moorslawisdead is supposed to have more info soon, guess I can wait for that.

    • @gwramim4807
      @gwramim4807 Месяц назад +1

      6800xt had 72 cu and msrp was 649$ and 7800xt has 60 cu which falls in line with 6800 non xt and is priced lower

    • @streetguru9350
      @streetguru9350 Месяц назад +1

      @@gwramim4807 Sure, but even on the 7900 XTX it's not that much faster than the 6950 XT in rasterization. They should be doing way better.

    • @gwramim4807
      @gwramim4807 Месяц назад +3

      @@streetguru9350 yeah maybe around 30-33% faster with less Msrp you are forgetting the fact that 6950xt was launched for 1099$ and 6900xt for 999$
      7900xtx already in the 800s give some time AMD price falls eventually

  • @jekot1
    @jekot1 Месяц назад +8

    Why do u use afterburner instead of amd adrenaline

  • @2ndLastJedi
    @2ndLastJedi Месяц назад +1

    Your a champ mate, love the fact you can admit you didn't have the correct conclusion in your previous video.

  • @ToGrimmToWin
    @ToGrimmToWin Месяц назад +5

    You need the sapphire nitro+ it doesn't have the Samsung memory and everyone with that card is reporting higher clocks 2600 plus megahertz on the vram everyone with the Samsung memory seems to have the same issue of typically getting black screens at around 2450 MHz. Some other people have done extensive testing and have figured out that while it seems stable. Technically, we'll still have system crashes randomly above 2316, so they're assuming that it is most likely a driver related issue that we may see better overclocking later, but I don't know time May Tell but good video

    • @verneeiro
      @verneeiro Месяц назад

      I have the Nitro+ with Hynix memory and already at 2400 MHz it crashes in idle, not in games though.

    • @ToGrimmToWin
      @ToGrimmToWin Месяц назад

      @@verneeiro Mess with your voltages You need higher clocks on the cord to feed the memory also, but I've seen a lot of people talking about stable 2600 MHz with hynix Samsung's limit seems to be 2376

  • @rodiculous9464
    @rodiculous9464 Месяц назад +7

    How do you determine if the bus is the bottleneck. Is there a tool for that? I have afterburner/rtss but not sure if it shows that. Just trying to optimize what i have, but that card is interesting for sure. I am thinking of getting it while i wait for new gens to shake out. I am more excited for nvidia 5000 series tbh but with all the scalpers and ai buyers it will probably be another year before we get normal prices on those

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад +5

      Really the only way to truly tell from my point would be to match clocks on 7900 xt vs 7900 GRE and match memory speeds, then see the performance gap.

    • @rodiculous9464
      @rodiculous9464 Месяц назад +2

      @@techyescity thanks makes sense

    • @nimbydimby
      @nimbydimby 27 дней назад

      @@rodiculous9464 It doesn't because the GPUs have different number of cores, so it wouldn't be an apples to apples comparison. Personally, I don't think the bus has anything to do with it. It's more about games being VRAM sensitive or not, or having VRAM being the bottleneck, e.g. due to low VRAM, which is not an issue here with 16GB. It would perhaps be a good idea to ask someone like Richard from DF or Steve from GN, or even better, a GPU engineer :)

  • @bumbaclot813
    @bumbaclot813 Месяц назад +1

    Pretty good timing because i just got one last week. Im also kinda freaked out to over clock anything because i dont want my stuff to break.

  • @lmchua8644
    @lmchua8644 Месяц назад +1

    What core voltage are you using? The memory oc is somehow tied to the core voltage most likely due to its mcm design, so tweaking the 7900 gre is basically finding the middle ground between core clock and memory clock as lower core voltage means higher core clocks, but lower memory clock.
    You can probably oc a 7900xt too for comparison, and use its core voltage as a reference to oc the 7900 gre's memory

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад

      Using the 1050mv and even upping the power limits and core clocks helped performance a bit, but the problem with upping the core clocks and power limit targets is the power consumption starts to go way higher. The memory OC per se is quite efficient to gain some extra FPS.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Месяц назад +17

    Tech YES City lets me watch all of these videos for free! Now a great channel. Always a great channel.

  • @Alafgatatargh
    @Alafgatatargh Месяц назад +5

    With standard settings my GRE got ~80 FPS in the RDR2 ingame render test. With max stable OC settings = 88 FPS.
    Then I tuned it for efficiency and ended up with
    2200Mhz core
    -10% tdp
    2450 Vram fast timings 980mV undervolted.
    Result was also ~80FPS.
    BUT ... power consumption:
    Standard 255W
    max OC 293W
    Eco 195W

  • @guyverhw4780
    @guyverhw4780 Месяц назад +2

    Expecting a 10% fps increase for a 10% memory oc? I don't know much about oc but how does that even make sense? What about under clocking? 10% UC = 10% fps reduction? Did it used to work like that?

  • @paalosordoni7932
    @paalosordoni7932 Месяц назад +17

    I got the Asrock GRE, and after a lot of testing the best performance for my card was , undervolt 963mv, memory 2340, core 2630, power slider left at stock, pushing every thing up more can degrade performance and wastes around 40 watts of power for nothing.

    • @PolecanePC
      @PolecanePC Месяц назад

      Can I ask which one you got? Asrock Steel Legend or Challenger version?

    • @paalosordoni7932
      @paalosordoni7932 Месяц назад +1

      @@PolecanePC Asrock Steel Legend, same card shown here.

  • @kr00tman
    @kr00tman Месяц назад +1

    One thing that also might hurt overclocking, is you can't mess with the power at all so you can't do much with the voltages that would help increase performance. I was pretty let down by the overclocking tests I did (I got about a 7-8% uplift on average) especially when compared to last generation. One positive note however, this is the reason no crypto miner wants a 7000 series gpu!

  • @25myma
    @25myma Месяц назад

    Im looking forward to snatching one of these in a while, possibly used at a bargain price.

  • @letri5444
    @letri5444 Месяц назад

    I am currently using this gpu with i5-14600k with a 750w psu. Would you recommend how high the power slide should be in my case ?

  • @johnhudson7055
    @johnhudson7055 Месяц назад +1

    I bought the gigabyte version when it launched here in the US because there was no Red Devil at the time. I just ordered a Red Devil GRE and can't wait to see if there's any performance difference. I have thing for the Red Devil cards and have quite a few of them already.

    • @DatMammut76
      @DatMammut76 Месяц назад

      Hello! I just grabbed a hellhound, I’m unfamiliar with these things in recent years. Should I return it and grab the Red devil? 50 dollar increase doesn’t seem bad if the benefits are there :)

  • @unlap9377
    @unlap9377 Месяц назад +5

    You have people making this seem like the GRE now is on par with the 4070 Ti SUPER... Thanks for bringing it down to how realistic the improvement is.

    • @gertjanvandermeij4265
      @gertjanvandermeij4265 Месяц назад +5

      Nvidia sucks anyway ! AMD Radeon rules !

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Месяц назад

      @@gertjanvandermeij4265False AMD sucks and Nvidia rules.

    • @izidor
      @izidor Месяц назад +7

      the GRE does OC very well. If you bring up the Core and Mem clock together. it can be easily 10+ %

    • @bp059
      @bp059 Месяц назад +2

      @@ZackSNetwork false, both are good and have pros/cons as with anything

    • @Nolimitmarco
      @Nolimitmarco Месяц назад

      His OC didnt seem tht great.

  • @joejane9977
    @joejane9977 Месяц назад +1

    what is teh extra power draw will be a consideration

  • @tommysimonsen4043
    @tommysimonsen4043 Месяц назад +4

    Love my 7900 gre Hellhuond. +15 power limit. 2400 memory standart timings. 2800 core clock, 1010mv. I get 23457 in GPU score in time spy

    • @tuanphung7369
      @tuanphung7369 Месяц назад

      I got the same model and love it as well

  • @juanme555
    @juanme555 Месяц назад

    Ryan could you consider making a video comparing the Windows 11 Snappiness of the i9 14900K vs i7 11700K ???? pleeaasseee

  • @Nobe_Oddy
    @Nobe_Oddy Месяц назад +1

    when you did the memory OC'ing was it JUST the MEMORY or did you OC the GPU too???

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад

      I ended up settling on just the memory as ocing the core ups the power consumption way too much. Undervolting is best on the new RX 7000 series cards imo. Though the GRE already has quite a conservative clock out of the box.

    • @marks9233
      @marks9233 Месяц назад

      @@techyescity It would be nice to make clear in the video that you didn't OC the core due to power usage concerns. So, we don't really know the full potential of the GRE, since you didn't try to fully OC it, correct?

  • @AshtonCoolman
    @AshtonCoolman Месяц назад +4

    Use GPU-Z to tell you your GDDR6 manufacturer (i.e. Micron, SK Hynix, Samsung). I'm curious to see which manufacturer overclocks the highest. I think SK Hynix is making the best GDDR6 at the moment.

    • @douglasmurphy3266
      @douglasmurphy3266 Месяц назад +2

      I don't think it is one manufacturer making better GDDR, it is the hope that the board maker just used the same stuff as they are putting in 7800XT's or even 7900XT's instead of deliberately ordering slower memory for this specific card. AMD originally designed the GRE as a China only card to get rid of cheap stock they had on hand. It is also hitting a power wall so you can't just up the sliders and get more performance, you have to balance the voltage and GPU power with whatever increase you are trying to get from the memory.

  • @PolecanePC
    @PolecanePC Месяц назад

    Can you make an undervolting tutorial for this card. Or maybe even some 1 to 1 comparison with some different model? I've noticed you are only youtuber which won't 'swing' that power limit to the max, and go with some crazy clock speeds OC just to then lower voltage by 50 and say 'hey it's undervolted now' xD

  • @nicoyt9481
    @nicoyt9481 Месяц назад +12

    I am French, but shouldn’t the title be « AMD lets you » ?

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад +14

      correct, thanks fixed that lol, writing out a title so quickly :P

  • @FROSTB4NE
    @FROSTB4NE Месяц назад +5

    I got one in Europe for €620 , it's a fantastic card and a giant upgrade from my previous 1070.

    • @gertjanvandermeij4265
      @gertjanvandermeij4265 Месяц назад

      Mine was (just) €569,- online, in Holland ! ( 4 months ago )

    • @hnslager
      @hnslager Месяц назад

      @@gertjanvandermeij4265 i got one for 498 euros 4 days ago in czechia lmao, the deal only lasted 2 days

    • @FROSTB4NE
      @FROSTB4NE Месяц назад

      @@gertjanvandermeij4265 That's a good price, I'm from Ireland and have to order on Amazon UK, it was almost €700 from there so Germany was my cheapest option.
      Still... not too bad for what it offers albeit, it's a tremendous amount of money for a hobby.
      My hope for the future is GPUs that are good to cost €300 or less so everyone can enjoy them or more steam deck like devices that are competitive, one can dream.

    • @mikaelceylan
      @mikaelceylan Месяц назад

      Got one for 420 euros from marketplace new and never used😃 great card very quiet too

  • @GoonyMclinux
    @GoonyMclinux Месяц назад +14

    Its a real good gpu without oc'ing anything. 😂

    • @gwramim4807
      @gwramim4807 Месяц назад +4

      It has 33% more cu then 7800xt but 9% slower clocks and 10% lower memory speed which results in 20% less memory bandwidth thus it's only 7-10% faster when oc ,it rises to 25%+

    • @GoonyMclinux
      @GoonyMclinux Месяц назад +3

      @@gwramim4807 I have the 7800xt and the gre. Both decent but I favor the gre for sure.

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 Месяц назад

    Makes a lot of sense that the memory bus is the performance difference mostly. For this price point seems to be a solid value. I think most people will with this card 1440P with FSR/similar in newer games. To get more, One has to spend 700 or more for a higher class GPU. If I hadn't caved for 7900XTX and 7800XT (too similar) game bundles perhaps I would have gotten one. Am expecting a 4090 but there's a point where I can see using a card like this as a daily driver, 7800XT has been a solid experience also. I can see 7900XT being what people might want experience-wise for 1440P but it's around 700 still.

  • @vintagemotorsalways1676
    @vintagemotorsalways1676 Месяц назад

    2:04 It's not fair because you can dial in per-game wattman (OC) profiles on AMD that load automatically when you launch the game/application. Nvidia doesn't offer that.

  • @thesimpleway1998
    @thesimpleway1998 Месяц назад

    Thanks for this review the 7900gre can't gain 10% only from memory... The point is the power consumption if you want 7900xt performance you need over 300w consumption. Xfx and sapphire nitro models have the higher vbios power limit and they are capable of ~325w consumption that with a good sample can give you around same performance of a 7900xt. And the mem oc is not about memory chips but vbios limitation in terms of max current... You can compare the memory current limit between 7800xt and 7900gre 35A vs 25A, they unlock the slider but lock max current...

  • @Nobe_Oddy
    @Nobe_Oddy Месяц назад

    so just yesterday Wendell from Level1 did a review of the Sapphire Nitro+ and pointed out a few features I had no idea about.... first off the card actually had an extra FAN HEADER AND RGB HEADER !!! ... this blew my mind for some reason.... when was the last time you saw a GPU with the ability to add a 4th fan, let alone connect some rgb doo-dads to control through the same software?? that's just extra and I like Sapphire's thinking (made me wonder if their other models have this too... do you see any on your Pulse??) second, they make it super easy to replace the fans, just in case you keep yours for a bit longer than you expected and0 time becomes your enemy (as if it isn't already lol) and of course they see the replacement fans too I presume
    and third they have some upscaling software of their own called TriXX that also does a few other things too... Wendell seemed to have high praise for it in some instances compared to FSR... now I'm not sure if this was for all sapphire cards or just the Nitro+ .....
    also the dual BIOS switch has a third setting that lets you switch between the 2 BIOSes in software, which is pretty awesome because who wants to open their box just to make sure their OC'ing doesn't brick the card LOL

  • @ToGrimmToWin
    @ToGrimmToWin Месяц назад +1

    Asrock 7900 GRE steel legend after extreme extensive testing. 2700 MHz core 2376 MHz memory 995 millivolt plus 15 power limit is absolute true stable. I can get a lot higher numbers here and there and they seem to be stable but I will get crashes in games. The settings I posted above I have no crashing

  • @Kelekona_808
    @Kelekona_808 Месяц назад

    My guess for the memory unlock is that it was aiming to boost AI related performance more than gaming performance.

  • @mawandaeed
    @mawandaeed Месяц назад

    Was planning on getting the Rx 7800 xt ..but I will just go for the gre .. my 5 year plan

  • @chibonchibon3967
    @chibonchibon3967 Месяц назад +3

    this is surprising since some youtuber told the "big" difference on memory oc. thanks for the great Indepth video as always.

  • @3pokrobloxvideos456
    @3pokrobloxvideos456 Месяц назад

    Is it worth it to overclock the vram on a Rx 7800 xt?

  • @Greez1337
    @Greez1337 Месяц назад

    Still wish any card sub 7900XTX actually gave a performance bump to the price point they are at.

  • @Willikirk4
    @Willikirk4 Месяц назад

    I have the Gigabyte version of the 7900 gre. This card has Samsung memory and I haven’t been able to push it past 2390mhz. My time spy gpu score is 22.5k which is average I guess

  • @BigSaleGolem
    @BigSaleGolem Месяц назад

    Why in Ghost of tsushima minimal recommended Radeon rx5500xt, equivalen for Nvidia gtx960 4gb (recommended in game min.) is rx480 and his have 8gb? Not only in dat game.

    • @SpeedsterBlur
      @SpeedsterBlur Месяц назад +1

      Because AMD no longer officially supports cards older than the rx 5000 series outside of security updates. The gtx 900 series gets minimal updates, but nonetheless is still officially supported by Nvdia.

    • @BigSaleGolem
      @BigSaleGolem Месяц назад

      @@SpeedsterBlur I went with amd because they supposedly provide longer support than nvidia. How does Radeon think they can keep their customers if they do things like this.

  • @fuzzylumpkins6034
    @fuzzylumpkins6034 29 дней назад

    It was a great GPU for £500 before the unlock 5 weeks ago. For the price and performance it is far more valuable than the 4070Ti super and even the 4080.
    I went for the Sapphire pure white and love it. I even gave our 6 year old my 7700 xt so I could justify the GRE purchase and both combined are still less than Ngreedia would charge for a 4070Ti Super or 4080

  • @mateuszthc666666
    @mateuszthc666666 Месяц назад

    its ryzen 5 5600 enough to handle rx 6750 xt/6800 xt in 1440p or I must have stronger cpu?

    • @romuluxb
      @romuluxb Месяц назад

      For those cards in 1440p the gpu will still be the limiting factor, the 5600 will be enough.
      Next time you upgrade to a even stronger gpu, then you will want a better cpu.

  • @ToGrimmToWin
    @ToGrimmToWin Месяц назад

    My steel legend black screen at 2450. No matter what, even at the suggested 2390 I still get weird random black screens. I can max out the core and never see a black screen as soon as I start messing with the vrm past 2316 black screens. Random typically on desktop or like steam is open or something not during games. 2436 is the highest. I can get it to go without a black screen crash during gaming or benchmarks. Fur Mark gives me the best point score at 2390/2400

    • @whitygoose
      @whitygoose Месяц назад

      my furmark only reach 22000 no matter what.
      asrock steel legend btw.

  • @izidor
    @izidor Месяц назад

    Well you should OC with MEM + Fast Timing + Core...you can land somehwere between 10-15% FPS boost...OFC a MEM OC only will not net you 10% FPS

  • @jaredrademacher4995
    @jaredrademacher4995 Месяц назад

    Can you put up your oc #'s for thr rtx 4070

  • @CrashPilot1000
    @CrashPilot1000 Месяц назад +1

    IDK, if I was in the market right now I would probably toss in the 120 bucks or so and get the 7900xt since the 7900GRE is just the crippled version of it. So I would uncripple the GRE and get more vram in the first place. ATM prices are still tough though but not as brutal as in the mining boom (remember the prices of a 3080??). I think a good 1440p card with 16GB vram should be 350 - 400 IMHO. On the other hand I think the Game-Devs could really make their games shine with dedication to optimizations instead of: buy more raw power and eat the software-bugs.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Месяц назад +1

      The problem with that argument is if you did that you would then be close in the 7900xtx and 4080 Super price area.

    • @CrashPilot1000
      @CrashPilot1000 Месяц назад

      ​@@ZackSNetwork I know my reasoning is flawed and would only prevent buying a 4090. Yeah, be happy with what you have and only upgrade if there is a game or there are games you REALLY want to play and your gfx/monitor combo is holding you back.

  • @DavidBoggs-pk8nr
    @DavidBoggs-pk8nr Месяц назад +1

    Sadly allot of cards don't let you overclock it much at all.
    If you got the crappy samsung memory like mine, you'll not even get a stable 2400.
    2300 with tight timings is the best that could be done, common trend with allot of them.

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek Месяц назад +5

    I was really really hoping the gre was hiding a rabbit in the hat with the oc.

    • @AndyViant
      @AndyViant Месяц назад +4

      Others tended to get better results. Increasing the power limit and undervolting combined seem to create the best outcome, more like a 7-8% result on average.
      But, as with every overclock, it's all gonna come down to the sample you end up with. Maybe they got lucky with better samples, or maybe stability was easier to get in a different climate.
      Also many testers use 7800X3D CPU's and this could also have an impact.
      No outcome is less valid than another. It just shows there will be variation in your results based on your system and the time you invest into tuning the overclock.

    • @CrashPilot1000
      @CrashPilot1000 Месяц назад +2

      Me too. Turns out there was only a frog in the hat.

    • @dianaalyssa8726
      @dianaalyssa8726 Месяц назад +2

      Me too, I was promised a golden rabbit ;)

  • @brendonbarabach3104
    @brendonbarabach3104 Месяц назад

    hey, i'm new with AMD and have already bought this gpu, he radeon rx 7900 gre Sapphire. But i get less fps than my old gpu ( 3060 ti 8gb). I have done research about settings, but i still get low fps in games like, call of duty and battle field V. On my 3060 ti I got around 100 - 150 fps and on the 7900 gre only around 60 with 100% usage.
    Specs:
    Amd4 ryzen 9 5900x
    64gb ram ddr4
    850 Watt PSU
    7900 gre Sapphire
    b550-a Asus.

    • @AndyViant
      @AndyViant Месяц назад +1

      7900 gre in stock form should absolutely stomp the 3060. 60fps sounds like a frame settings cap. My housemate had a siilar issue when he bought his 6750XT. there was a setting in windows display settings applying the frame cap. he looked everywhere for it in adrenaline drivers and it wasn't in there, but in the windows doisplay settings.

  • @peterjansen4826
    @peterjansen4826 Месяц назад

    It is a good thing that the 7900 GRE costs about the same as the 7800 XT though of course both are too expensive for what you get. You can pick which limitation you find less problematic: the small GPU of the 7800 XT or the memory-bottleneck (only a 256-bit bus, a lower memory bandwidth than the 7800 XT) of 7900 GRE which will limit the performance on some games. I myself prefer to pass on both. Hopefully RDNA5 comes fast, RDNA4 is another generation with only 1 die and cuts of it, like the 5700 XT and RX 580. Maybe even worse (even smaller than 260 mm²) if the predicted diesize is correct.

  • @piotrkurek79
    @piotrkurek79 Месяц назад

    Harbour Unboxed achieved gains between 7-13%. Maybe you run into ECC errors?

    • @marks9233
      @marks9233 Месяц назад

      I keep thinking about that too. I wonder whether he received a special reviewer's sample or maybe it is the Sapphire Nitro+ version of the card that he used. Or maybe just the silicon lottery. Hard to know.

    • @piotrkurek79
      @piotrkurek79 Месяц назад

      @@marks9233 Bryan's conclusion is simply wrong. If the 256-bit data bus is too narrow, if this is the bottleneck, so any OC on VRAM will bring noticeable performance gain.

  • @dlewis9760
    @dlewis9760 Месяц назад

    No different than internet speeds. I have fiber. The speed gaurentee is only in the fiber network. Once you link outside that network your speed is only as fast as the slowest speed between you and whereever the link resides. It is much faster than what I had, but rarely as fast as you think it would be.

  • @ArtisChronicles
    @ArtisChronicles Месяц назад

    Yeah I honestly figured there wouldn't be a real point in OCing the memory. AMD was right to lock it in the first place.

  • @williammurdock3028
    @williammurdock3028 Месяц назад +2

    I think amd is dumping a card that didn't sell in china

  • @raycasta10
    @raycasta10 Месяц назад

    This card killed my purchase of the rx7800xt 😢

  • @perceptixn
    @perceptixn Месяц назад +6

    My 7900 gre pure with mem oc set to 2400 (fast timings) gives +15 fps in RDR2 at 2k versus the default (non oc). So its also about the games / engine.
    Also here at least, the cheapest rtx 4070 s is about 60-70 eur more expensive than 7900 gre, like the lowest tier 4070s.

    • @Satou-Akira71
      @Satou-Akira71 Месяц назад

      Hynix memory on the Pure OCs better than Samsung memory on the Asrock model he tested, but yes, fast timings and undervolting core a bit is the way to go

    • @GrainGrown
      @GrainGrown Месяц назад

      And what do you noob think "2k" means?

    • @MandoMTL
      @MandoMTL Месяц назад

      @@GrainGrown It's colloquially used for 1440p. No need to spaz about it.

    • @GrainGrown
      @GrainGrown Месяц назад

      @@MandoMTL It's wrong and stupid.

    • @GrainGrown
      @GrainGrown Месяц назад

      @@MandoMTL Normie people who do that suck.

  • @wickymix1
    @wickymix1 Месяц назад

    Would you believe me if I told you I can do make it up to 21.0Gbps?;) I have the gigabyte oc version! It’s not stable at 21.0 but mine will stay stable at 20.8Gbps.

    • @artie1390
      @artie1390 Месяц назад +1

      I don’t really believe that it is stable in everyday use, I have nitro + version with hynix memory and it is unstable even at 2460 when using a browser, in games it’s fine sure, but if I only play games 2660 is stable too, but in everyday use it’s unstable, I hope for a fix from amd, I filed a detailed bug report

  • @Squilliam-Fancyson
    @Squilliam-Fancyson Месяц назад

    Still a used RTX 3080ti (about the same price) is a better deal. Less VRAM but way faster VRAM and faster core too.

  • @bryantallen703
    @bryantallen703 Месяц назад

    Yeah, you should be getting 10% or more.

  • @lupintheiii3055
    @lupintheiii3055 Месяц назад +1

    That 2450mhz memory OC is pretty terrible, anyone else can get at least 2600mhz with little effort... something seams off.
    7900GRE memory modules are actually 19gbps chips downclocked to 18gps so they should run better than that.
    I can get 2750mhz bo problem on my 7900XT, yes I know it's starting from an higer speed, but still...

    • @stangamer1151
      @stangamer1151 Месяц назад

      7900 XT memory modules are obviously better binned. That is why they are clocked higher at stock. Looks like AMD released GRE version just to use defected 7900 XT chips and underspeced GDDR6 modules.
      Nobody can guarantee that a certain card will work at higher memory speeds that stock ones. It is a lottery. One sample can gain 100 MHz, the other one - 200 MHz and so on.
      +1000 MHz on 4070 Super is also not the best result. I saw much better results, like +2000 MHz or even more. You are just lucky, if your GPU can do better than average.

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад +3

      Also I am leaving games on for a few hours at a time after I have achieved what I feel is a stable clock, very easy to run some short benchmarks at higher speeds and claim numbers, versus gaming for a while.

  • @gertjanvandermeij4265
    @gertjanvandermeij4265 Месяц назад +3

    IT's just AWESOME, *Bought one 4 months ago, for just €569,- ! And NOW got it up to 2520Mhz and 19,8 Gbps STABLE !* and now it performs (almost) as an 7900XT ! ( €779,- ! )
    I just LOVE AMD Radeon ! *The hell with Nvidia !*

  • @coathanger007
    @coathanger007 Месяц назад

    Seriously not about to spend nearly $1k on a discretionary item during a cost of living crisis.

  • @doesitgame
    @doesitgame Месяц назад +2

    AMD would’ve gotten less flak for these cards if they’d called the “7800XT” and “7900 GRE” what they actually were - the RX 7800 and RX 7800XT, respectively.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Месяц назад +1

      The 7900xt is also the 7800xt as well the whole card lines are up by one tier.

  • @OOTheBlueAir
    @OOTheBlueAir Месяц назад

    so your trying to say everyone els, have a bad review, hardware und and all them other that hit from 6 to 12 % more

  • @mikebruzzone9570
    @mikebruzzone9570 Месяц назад

    mb

  • @AshtonCoolman
    @AshtonCoolman Месяц назад +1

    I want to solder that 23Gbps capable VRAM onto a GRE and see how it performs 😂

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Месяц назад

      Waste of time and money just buy a 7900xtx.

  • @MacTavish9619
    @MacTavish9619 Месяц назад +1

    Of course test done with intel cpu and I am more than sure it was without SAM enabled. So AMD is losing around 10-15% performance because of your choice. And yes, Radeon gpu is getting much more performance from SAM enabled than nvidia, especially if you OC your gpu.

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад +2

      SAM is on, but I will be swapping over from the i9 soon back to an AMD on my test bench, as I am tired of using Intel's newer CPUs personally. Just all the stability issues people have been reporting. I haven't experienced it myself but it is a test bench system so it doesn't get used as a main rig.

  • @clem9808
    @clem9808 27 дней назад

    Blah blah blah. Best value for money, best price to performance blah blahblah.
    In reality, most gamers are afraid to buy amd cards , and still buys the 4070 super instead. This is what the current market is telling us. ✌️

  • @MSaFuVaN64
    @MSaFuVaN64 Месяц назад

    Thram green promoter u Are

  • @obiteleven4045
    @obiteleven4045 Месяц назад

    Bryan do you think your viewership has gone down because of the suspect sponsor you have?!

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад +3

      No, I have been using them and recommending them for years, youtube has just been shadowing my channel, nothing I can do about it really.
      I will continue on for a while, though if sponsors drop off etc. then I will just go and work with my mates out on construction.

    • @obiteleven4045
      @obiteleven4045 Месяц назад +1

      @@techyescity hopefully it doesn't come to that! I find out about your videos through the discord notification rather then RUclips notifications. Trying to think of why your recommendations aren't happening. Least you can flip the PCs to stay afloat.

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Месяц назад +2

      @@obiteleven4045 Yeah thanks brother, all in all it is what it is, even if it does go bad, I am grateful of the ride I have had with youtube over the years anyhow!

  • @radupopescu4241
    @radupopescu4241 Месяц назад

    Nice video . To bad i dont like amd

  • @blackmennewstyle
    @blackmennewstyle Месяц назад

    AMD really needs to loose that trend where its GPUs are totally locked in term of overclocking...

    • @lupintheiii3055
      @lupintheiii3055 Месяц назад

      Not only the GPU are not locked in term of OC, Nvidia is the one not supporting OC at all since you can't OC any Nvidia GPU officially without a 3rd party software...

  • @gertjanvandermeij4265
    @gertjanvandermeij4265 Месяц назад +1

    3:42 ..... *Ray Tracing is just GAY Tracing, completely USELESS BS from Nvidia !* No gamer needs it !

  • @pokepokepoke64
    @pokepokepoke64 Месяц назад +4

    The 4070 super is $599 and frequently on sale for $549, same price as the gre. Me and the majority of buyers are going to go nvidia for the nvenc encoder, ray tracing and dlss.
    I bought a 3080 ti gamerock for $500 because its a cool card

    • @Satou-Akira71
      @Satou-Akira71 Месяц назад +4

      KEK Nvidbot NPC

    • @griffin1366
      @griffin1366 Месяц назад

      @@Satou-Akira71 says the AMDrone..

    • @pokepokepoke64
      @pokepokepoke64 Месяц назад

      @@Satou-Akira71 more features same price, about equal performance

    • @RiveeR39
      @RiveeR39 Месяц назад

      A 4070 super for 550 is crazy

  • @Boorock70
    @Boorock70 Месяц назад

    - Lack of features (RT/DLSS)
    - Horrible "video playback" power consumption (40+W @ RUclips/Netflix/VLC etc.)
    - Useless "chiplet" architecture (unstable UV/OC)
    - OverPriced (need a 10% discount, URGENT!)
    So, that's why No One is buying the AMD RX 7900 series & the GRE !

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