Why It's Likely That Bronny James Will Get Drafted This Summer | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss possible landing spots for Bronny James when he is (probably) drafted into the NBA this summer, and what this means for LeBron Sr.
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“Why it’s likely that Bronny James will get drafted this summer” - because his dad is Lebron James. Saved you 8 minutes 45 seconds
Seriously. Its the same reason why thiannis has a roster spot. Same reason why Taylor Griffin "played" in the NBA.
Will his kid be good? Who knows? But some team will 1000% draft him for the press.
just in: Bill Simmons learns about nepotism
It’s called podcasting guys
Do they expect him to go 1st or 2nd round? What if someone passes up on a generational talent? What’s the history of players drafted late second round? Which teams would take the risk? If only they spent some of the 8 minutes talking about something other than Lebron being his dad…
😂 facts bro
Bronny will go to the combine, get A LOT of feedback and then go back to college.
I agree
It would be better if bronny went to China and took that big terd lechina with him.
i hope because if 5 pts 6 ft and a heart problem is enough for the nba then imma be pissed.
He's going to skip the combine most likely
4.2 points 2 rebounds career stats and going into the draft takes balls and high belief in the power of your dad.
6 ft with heart problems
Do you see majority of the pool of players available? There is only a small minority averaging the numbers you expect
And even those that have high achievements in college does not mean a thing.
Instead of calling him Bronnie, how about we just call him Thansis James.
Thanos? lol
It’s Thanasis aka brother of Giannis.
Crazy that Thanasis never averaged more than 10 minutes in 5 Milwaukee seasons and averaged like 2PPG and 2RPG and he still has a spot on the bench...I mean I wonder how other players on the team feel about him...
Better off calling him Marcus
Hes a third stringer he never sees play time unless its blowout. Every team has guys like that.@@Herbalizer28
Loved the ending Lol
Bronny in Miami would be the best spot in general for him to develop as a player.
You must mean University of Miami...
@@cjp1599 we even don't need him we got Jahlil Bethea coming on board hes projected to be a one and done lottery pick in the 2025 draft
Such a good point. Miami would turn him into a defensive menace
@@gavintoussaint3237 Absolutely! They develop un drafted free agents and second round picks regularly.
You need to be able to score in Miami… even if it’s just 10 ppg. For how great Butler is he isn’t carrying a regular season team and they don’t have a big time #2.
Miami plays hard nose basketball but you still need to put the ball in the hoop. This ain’t Lebron, Wade, and Bosh heat.
pick Bronny in 2nd round and FLIP that to whomever LeBron actually wants to play for and will give you something decent to cement that
LeBron is a free agent lol
Cleveland? The only team that has a remote chance of convincing LeBron to leave LA (close his career in his hometown), a big hole on the wings, very good overall talent and is in the weakest conference, where the Lakers with current record would be playing for the third seed or something.
Philly already tried once, they may try again, and OKC also may want to try it out, considering they clearly would love an upgrade over Giddey and they have way more picks than they can actually use.
East is weak overall but top heavy ! Boston, Philly and Milwaukee can beat any team when healthy (or well coached..)..even CLE and MIA are dangerous when at full strength... as opposed to the WEST where you have 2 young and inexperienced teams in the top-3..Besides Denver, no team is really that solid..OKC have no real centers, NOP have lazy players, Wolves are getting there but need experience..It's probably tougher to make the playoffs but easier to make the Finals in the WEST nowadays !
@@Herbalizer28 outside of Boston, there is no one in the east that would make the playoff in the west. Philly would have without Embiid getting injured, but that's it.
Milwaukee is barely .500 against the west, and every other team has a bad record against the west, and playing 20 less games against Hornets, Wizards, Raptors, Nets and Pistons would mean they would be behind the Warriors in the standings.
That's the sad reality: the east has 1 contender, a second good team with a star that is never healthy and effective in the postseason (Embiid) and a team with a bad coach and no defense that may get bounced in the first round despite having Giannis on the team.
The Lakers are 11 games over .500 and are 9th in the standing. That's how good the west is compared to east.
You can discount OKC and Minnesota as much as you like, but they are less flawed than every east team outside of Boston.
@@12garkYou know what ?! You are absolutely right ! I never realized that ! I guess I overestimated these East teams...I do think that the Bucks are better than their record under Doc, and I hated that they "gave in" to Giannis' call for help by getting Lillard (and lost some respect for Giannis for doing so) and Philly is definitely a top teams in the league with Embiid, but the rest aren't that impressive....I actually though that CLE would be better this year..they have a stacked team, but somehow can't seem to make it work..
Meanwhile, both LAL and GSW are 20-10 against East teams..So yeah..West is still the strongest conference..And don't get me wrong, I love both OKC and MIN, but I'm worried about experience..that's all..
@@Herbalizer28 oh yes, sure, experience is an issue. Minnesota to me is less inexperience than people think. They were in the playoff last year and the year before. They are still a young team, but I somewhat trust them.
OKC is small. Very small. Don't love that. I think they are a couple of years away.
@@12garkCleveland is not his hometown smooth brain
About time Bronny did something that helps USC lol
He helped Kentucky save $34 mil
Missing the most obvious scenario: The Lakers will draft Bronny.
Is it really? They only have a very late 2nd round pick. If I'm any team within 5 picks of the lakers pick I might pick him up just so I can trade it to the lakers for their pick as well as a future 2nd.
I would 100% do that if I was the team ahead of them.
Yeah I don't think so... the lbj experiment has been at best meh... Lakers ready to move on... last thing they want is more arrogance.
They literally won a ring and made the WCF last year…that’s “at best meh”?
@@kevinsmithfan37 Bronny isn't good enough to justify a pick. I don't think LeBron's other son and daughter are going to want to move out of Southern California because Bronny is playing for the Greensboro Swarm, so he probably won't be leaving the Lakers like he mused that one time.
@benoitwaffle5439 which is all the reason why what I said makes sense. If you are the warriors with the 53th pick and you know the lakers are gonna take him at 55 you force their hand. They have to give you that 55 pick, but they are also gonna have to give you something else now because do you really want LBJ going to the warriors on a cheap as fuck deal? It's a win-win for LBJ cause either the lakers give up their 2nd and a future 2nd or they lose LBJ to the warriors. If the warriors keep bronny all they did was burn a late 2nd round pick for 1 year with an all star+undrafted level player vs picking the 52nd best player in a weak draft class...omg they pass up say Tyrese Proctor. When you get past 50 in the draft, realistically, the best you can hope for is a role player that is gonna need time to develop (that doesn't help the warriors) but, a move where they either keep bronny or get another pick out of it does
LBJ already said he would take a pay cut to play with his son, you add playing with Steph to that. Considering Steph's timeline you need cheap win now pieces.
Bronny is still eligible to return to school, which is exactly what he should do to develop as a player. He should try to prove himself worthy of a draft pick. Otherwise, he's always going to be seen as a nepotism pick. I'm cheering for him to make it, but I'd love for him to truly earn it.
I feel bad for Bronny, this is such a strange situation.
Well I don’t feel BADLY for him. Kid has a nice little life going
Imagine feeling sorry for a 6'4 son of a billionaire...
There’s nothing strange about nepotism in America
yeah poor kid can't catch a break
If he hadn't declared for the draft coming off a run-of-the-mill freshman season ( run-of-the-mill for a normal freshman recruit not run-of-the-mill NBA prospect), I would agree with you. He invited it by declaring and seeing if nepotism can get him in.
Its wild that Bron still has these expectations at year 21 that yall think anything would be more important than playing with his son
Don’t forget the fact that the kid literally nearly died? I can’t be too hard on his freshman season.
That "Nearly Died" story was a fake.
(Sympathy Card.)
Signed,
Jesus "Emmanuel" Christ
Son of God
The Truth Dislocator
so he wouldnt get judged for his hoops?
or da vax?
Why are you assuming that teams want LeBron?! Maybe they want to run their team the way they see fit. Maybe their plans don’t include someone at his age.
I don't think anyone wants LeBron. Too much drama and for one year. No thanks. I don't think teams take on that headache. He's not winning now. Why will he all of a sudden be a winner next year or the year after.
It’s not that teams necessarily want Lebron it’s really about how much money the team would generate in Lebron’s final 2 years there..
@@TizzleF yeah I get that but he's not making any playoff runs anymore so my guess is not much. He doesn't have the fanfare he once had. He needs to go quietly into retirement
Lebron wants to sign with your squad.... Is there ANY chance you say no?
@@jeremyforcier7252 Id say no. He misses so many games and his teams don't win anymore. He's more worried about being called the Goat and trying to pad stats than he is about winning games. He's a headache and a drama queen. Ready for him to retire
Lebron has already made the deal with the Lakers. He stays and they draft Bronny.
And it will be a disastrous soap opera.
And we will all be here for the dumpster fire.
He is going to eventially throw his son under the bus just like he does with all his teammates. Would be hilarious if Lebron tries to get him traded at the deadline because he "doesnt have enough help" again
As a Lakers fan, we better not draft this kid. I will officially be done until Jeanie steps down.
Cesspool comment and cesspool replies jesus.
Not like they're drafting him 1st. Lol it will be fine
Celtics should draft him for comedy gold
I would not wish that on him
... and then bury him. 😂
hello! knicks are gonna pick him if he falls to them. Jacob Toppin, Thannis Antetokounmpo, Chris Smith... we signed/drafted so many shitty brothers.
I think a great spot for Bronny would be The Spurs. He plays with Pop & Wemby. Lebron Signs & he learns from one of the best ran franchises if not the best for a few years to get a feel for what his Las Vegas team could look like. It's perfect.
Yes, the biggest drama queen in the history of the NBA goes to the least dramatic team in the NBA
They also have a bevy of picks that could be turned into another young future star or traded for a prime guy. Wemby is waaaaaayyyy too good to wait 5-6 years for a team to grow around him in this era.
Vassell, Bron, Keldon, Wemby, and a top pick has a real chance to add 30+ wins next year. If they traded picks for one of Garland, LaMelo, Young, Murray, or maybe Derrick White if the Celts underperform in the playoffs, that's one of the most talented team LeBron's played on.
Yawn smooth brain
You're not the best ran franchise when you have 5 straight losing seasons you egg brain
This move screams Philadelphia.
Zero chance LeBron goes to a small market or non contender. Or the Celtics. Or the Warriors. Or the Clippers. Tbh, only team that really makes any sense is the Lakers (and maybe Heat/ Cavs)
When Doc Rivers gave a contract to his son Austin, who was also on the Clippers, all the players assumed he was getting favorable treatment. It was not good for the locker room. There would be a similar thing if LeBron got Bronny drafted when he otherwise would not have
You have to remember he was only a freshmen this year and wasn’t even a starter so of course his numbers weren’t there. Who knows maybe he takes a huge jump next year. He has the potential.
This happens in business 😂
We need to realise that Bronny has agency. He might choose to stay for another year in college, maybe even transfer, improve significantly and then enter the draft next season. He might even make it to the top 30 in the draft boards by then.
The other things you mentioned that Bronny could do aren't interesting discussion topics right now because the last we heard was that he declared for the draft. Bronny has no control over which team drafts him, but his dad could have some influence, which is interesting and is why Bill and Ryen were talking about it.
It would be funny if bronny gets drafted to one of those franchise whereby if removed from a list of 30 teams, you’d take a good while to identify which team is missing. Like a Sacramento or Charlotte.
Depends on what the Lakers do in the playoffs. If they reach the WCF or something like that, then there's hope for a championship. I still think a championship is more valuable to him than playing with his son
Imagine getting drafted before better players because of your dad. I would honestly feel freaking embarrassed. Once his dad retires he will be sent to the G League to rot.
The NBA is turning out to be more like WWE than WWE.
The team who has the last pick, and Bronny is not picked …👀…
What a joke if this kid gets drafted… there are people out here grinding to make it into the league… this kid only getting in because of his last name is a really bad look.
The kid who was raised by a single mother and made a name for himself based solely on his talent and ability has now become the face of crony nepotism.
Full circle.
Most interesting thing about the NBA draft is how 2 teams forfeited picks.
The epitomy of privelege and nepotism.
Not wrong but such is commonplace across (western) society. Only seems to draw a reaction in outward facing industry (entertainment, politics to a lesser degree)
@@Sticktothemodelsno need to say western society.. the world is more like it from asia to africa and beyond
showing nepotism literally means you’re winning in life, it’s what a person should aspire to
These comments are lame lmao og anunoby avg 5 points as a freshman in college did he get drafted because of nepotism? brandin podziemski avg 1.4 POINTS as a freshmen and is a starter in the league is that privelege
@@varlitoway3809but both those guys went back to college and drastically improved their sophomore year to improve their stock?
Transfer to Gonzaga is the rumor I heard
LeBalco James and Commissioner Skeletor will guarantee it
Knicks should take him
Can LeBron play on the G League during the middle of the season?
lol. Good point.
The Sioux Falls Skyforce are banking on that sell out.
The Lakers already said they would be open to drafting Bronny. Bill lives in LA so I know he knows this. I wonder why he doesn't touch on it more.
You catch the small fish to attract the big fish 😊
Wasting a pick on a kid who will be out of the league in a year, just to get Bron for a year, is a stupid stupid decision. Unless your like a top team already.
Adam Silver already put the word out Bronny untouchable. One way or another he going to LA with his pops
Think about it from Bronnie‘s perspective I don’t think he wants to only make the league because a team wanted his father. That’s good for the fans not good for the kid.
Imagine wasting a draft pick on a bad basketball player just in hopes to sign his 40-year old dad that has the "ankle-flu" every five days.
90 percent of 2nd round picks are useless
If the celtics win a championship this year they should do it with their 1st round pick. Future for them is alr so bright, what will a 30th pick really do for them
Utah owns the 32nd pick. Utah also owns the Lakers 2027 pick Top 4 protected. Utah trades 32 for the removal of the protections on the 2027 pick so they can take Bronny.
“Even if he’s not one of the best 58 guys in the draft.” Let me help you out. He’s not even close. He couldn’t start at any top 25 D2 team tbh… can’t shoot, below average handles, etc. this is lunacy
What do you mean by forfeited their draft picks?
The commissioner has the authority to forfeit picks any team is allotted in a draft for rules violations (ex. tampering violations in free agency).
I know Phoenix forfeited (or more accurately got stripped of) their 2nd Round pick for violating the rules around negotiating with free agents. Think they talked to Drew Eubanks before his free agent window officially oppened. Not sure who else lost their 2nd rounder but it was probably for some similar minor violation.
As a Lakers fan, it better not be us wasting a pick on this kid. Id rather let Bron walk since we arent gonna win a chip in the next two years anyway.
Ten years*. Fixed that for you.
Your ownership to care as much about the team being in the news as it does winning, and this move would certainly get them in news...
We have pick 58 who cares
College bball is terrible . He can develop better in the pros
......better just go Shanghai Sharks.
Lol. BAHahahahahaaaaaa
And he had a heart attack. I hope he can stay healthy and breathing easy.
mRNA injured
Bronny needs to stay another year. LeBron putting unwanted pressure on him
I dont think hes getting drafted no matter how long he stays. This is his best chance to make any money in the nba
@@tonydombovy5207 Lol with his skill celing he could maximize his NBA earnings and it would still be less than a 10th of what his trust fund from pops is.
@@tonydombovy5207😂😂🤣
@@tonydombovy5207 Bruh his dads a fucking billionaire. Dude is heir to more money than most All-Stars combined
LeBron is the only reason teams would look twice at Bronny.
As a Knicks fan I don't want LeBron at this point. Depends how well we do in the playoffs but the priority should be extending Brunson. PS - USC was under .500 this past season; they didnt even get an NIT invite.
olive branch of stupidly, how is this not the knicks if he wants to go down this wormhole?
How about okc. They would be a monster
Clippers draft Bronny in the 2nd round lol
Everyone knows to follow the script.
why would any team want to do this like I really don’t understand the goal of of the teams to win a championship not make it easier for some washed up player play one year maybe two with his son and how much is he gonna be dedicated to the team because is he trying to win a championship or just trying to have fun out there with his kid I would pass on this hard if I was any team
So if Bronny is one of the 58, that means that there is someone out there that WONT get drafted (who deserves to get drafted) because LeBron says that he son needs to be in the league…that’s really sad
huh?
@@ChristopherSmithNYC Bronny getting drafted is gonna prevent someone who deserves to get drafted, to NOT get drafted
I think the idea is exciting, but not the potential outcomes. On a good team, Bronny gets benched and doesn't develop. On a middling team, they trade away their best players for Lebron and the team tanks when LBJ inevitably leaves in a year or two. On a bad team, Bronny costs them a really valuable pick, the young players don't get ball time, and the rebuild suffers.
There are a number of teams who would roll the dice, but four what long term cost?
IM SENDING MY SON TO THE DRAFT SAME AGE AS BRONNY BUT BETTTER SO TELL LEBRON HE COMING FOR THAT SPOT AND I BET HE CAN OUT PLAY HIM MAKE SURE LEBRON GET THIS MESSAGE
Why would teams want a 40 year old Lebron?
No one is going to draft Bronny James because there's no team where Bronny would be in the rotation.
Lebron wants to play with his son, not have the world's longest "take your kid to work day"
With the 20 something pick in the 2024 draft, the Philadelphia 76ers select Br…….
No kid of any Hyper Superstar in ANY field should ever go into the same profession! Unreal pressure & expectations that can never be lived up to sigh
Worked out for Barry Bonds, Fernando Tatis Jr, Ken Griffey Jr, Dale Earnhardt Jr, the Manning brothers,
If brandin podziemski can avg 1.4 POINTS!!! In go top 20 in the draft n be a nba starter I don’t wanna hear nothing about “nepotism” when it comes to bronny
He'll go first round
I feel its 99% MIAMI, 1% Cleveland so LeBron will have excuse to leave LA without more "watering down his legacy"
The fact that none of this is about what’s best for bronnys development is sad
You guys dont understand, if Lebron puts out the word that he coming with Bronny to whom ever team drafts him, Bronny will be a lottery pick.
It's embarrassing. This will make Bronny a laughingstock in the league. Bronny is not an NBA-caliber player. They should have Austin Rivers chat with Bronny about the perception of nepotism in the league. Even though Austin Rivers was a much better player at the same age as Bronny, he still got into it because his father (Doc Rivers) pulled him onto his team.
Someone may draft him, but even if he just goes to workouts and gets feedback it is worth it for him. He doesn't even need to get drafted to get picked up by a team... LeBron should take as little money as possible to help whatever team he's on sign more players. He's made so much, might as well focus on having fun with better players in his last decade. LOL
He’s up there in rank with the player’s union and it’s never a good look when someone of that skill and stature takes the minimum instead of getting the money he and the players fought for last time they locked out.
It's like using bronny as a leverage.
The Mavs will definitely take him if he is there at 58 but i think the Lakers take him at 55.
theres no shame in staying in college. tim duncan and grant hill did 4 years
I think you guys are too low on this. It's a horrible draft, he's got a pedigree and a name, and there's something like a one-in-three chance you'll get a year (or more?) of a top 10 player out of it. If you're taking 25% of the oomph out of your pick to maybe get Lebron James and be must-see TV and must-purchase season tickets that's a swap almost anybody would love to make. He's going to go in the first, and I don't think it'll just be contenders in the running. If you're a fringe playoff team, wouldn't you want the ultimate team leader and example for your young guys, and someone who can get you to a respectable playoff push and the attendant big-game experience for your own guys?
Like, I'm a Raptors fan, and if they used the #17 Indiana pick on him, I wouldn't hate it? It's a horrible draft. I bet someone talks themselves into being the national media darling for a whole season at the cost of a maybe-low minute rotation type guy.
Celtics should draft him, decline LeBron joining and plant Bronny on the bench - just to troll LeBron.
Think the Celtics should focus on not choking in the postseason for the 6th year in a row
The only thing you would be trolling is yourselves. Picks should not be wasted on guys that everyone knows shouldn't be in the league.
Is there ANYONE who wants to see this?
Here is why I think the Spurs make the most sense…
Spurs take Bronny at top of second round. He will be available.
LeBron wants to play with his son in the NBA (who wouldn’t want that if they’re in his position).
Play with Wemby!!!!!!!!!!
LeBron loves Pop.
Spurs get a proven winner and a scorer with gravity to unlock Wemby’s full potential.
Bronny adds depth to the Spurs at PG.
Bronny lands in an ideal situation to develop.
Yawn smooth brain
That mustache is horrendous 😂
PACERS NEED TO DRAFT HIM FAXXX!!!
IF you believe Lebron when he said he wants to play with his son, then you draft Bronny with the FIRST PICK in a weak draft. Even at LBJ age he likely is a Top 30-40 player in the entire league at worst. If you’re a contender this is a no brainer IMO
Of course New York is picking him.
Is he smart? Can he run an offense like rondo?
The tricky part is do you have to play bronny outside of maybe garbage minutes.
Bron isn't stupid. If he's not ready he wouldn't want his kid embarrassed
His dad's clout can get him drafted for all kinds of daft reasons. But in the end he'll have to compete on the court and nothing daddy does will change the results
Honestly, this is why there are so many bad to average teams in the league. He is not ready for the NBA. He should stay in college and develop more.
LA can always just buy a second round pick in the 50’s
As a player Spurs should get him to play with Wemby for his career. Lakers would benefit from having a Lebron James whose roots started in LA, it would as build both legacies in la to greater heights.
Yawn smooth brain
It’s crazy to me that anyone thinks this is good for the son or dad or team. It’s going to implode a team before the all star break. Fans want him on court, coach doesn’t want to play him, players that lose time bc of him will hate him….and lebron in the middle of it all.
As a Lakers fan, none of us want him on the team, let alone on the court.
Well, that would be the ONLY reason.
Bronny James can always go back to college. Bronny James is good enough to enter the draft if his career his career choice is basketball. If he was talentless I would recommend him to stay in college. What is the rush? The college is not going anywhere. I believe he would actually go to Ohio State instead of U.S.C. He actually chose U.S.C. for non-educational reasons. Close to home, dad, and coach recruitment. The lakers. That is not how you choose a college for degree purposes. Don't criticize Broony James. When he chooses a college he will pick one that has the best educational program to teach him what he wants to learn. Just like you shop for NBA teams with biggest paycheck. You shop for NFL teams with the biggest paycheck. Baseball.
Bronny to Charlotte
Naz Reid
LeBron can threaten retirement if his kid ends up in a situation he doesn't approve of. He's still a top draw that the league needs to help keep eyeballs on the screen. He will get his way
8:30 political and business dynasties would like a word (unfortunately)
My thing is if you are seriously a contender or just one big piece away why not draft Brony in the first round and get LeBron like the bucks or Philadelphia will for sure have a great chance of winning a championship with LeBron James
people keep forgetting the kid had a f*****g HEART ATTACK. why would any team ever consider him...ludicrous, but nepotism is a helluva thing.
nepotism is applied in every pro league people only mad about this for an obvious reason
Bronny isn't going to get time on the court on a contender. For it to work it's going to have to be one of these bum teams.
We wouldnt get on the court for any NBA team.
@@TheNichq begs the question why he nominated for the draft. LeBron getting old and a desire to play with him is the only reason he's going to get drafted...