Alien: Isolation - The Best Horror Game of All Time?
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I would appreciate a part 2 even though I disagree with most everything you said in this first part lol. I think your very biased towards skill based games which is understandable but clearly theres something your missing in terms of how good this game is because plenty of people like myself (i usually play doom eternal and Titanfall 2) absolutely loved the game. None the less I can understand why some people might not like the game and I think you have some good points.
Hey Mayo do you know how to fix this the problem is that I can't get into a empty save slot in DOOM ETERNAL on the console edition.
Sorry for bad grammar.
I really really hope you'll play Scorn !! I hope it comes out soon, have you looked into that game ?
Holy moly the points you put made me remove the blindfold of nostalgia hahahaha I was like "whoaaa" throughout the video. I still loved crapping my pants on nightmare, the resources are so low that I was able to craft like only two noisemakers in entire game.
I truly found it atmospheric and boring. Like nobody thought about anything other than the Old Movies and Video Games.
I love your content but disagree on a lot of what you said here. Some stuff I remember:
*There is no punishment for failing or skill involved when opening doors/cutting open vents*
The time it takes to complete the interaction is the point here - you are exposed/vulnerable to attack throughout. You mention this in the hive/nest section, yet there are many instances of danger when performing this action throughout the game. Doing this in the early parts is essentially the game teaching you how long it takes, so you know in advance once you get to sections where you are in danger.
*Waiting for the tram is good but nothing happens / the alien never shows*
If you stick around too long there the alien does actually show.
*It takes nearly 4 hours for the alien to arrive*
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you've forgotten, because the alien turns up for real right after you fix the access tuner (the same area where you described potentially being boxed in by the npcs).
*You can't pickup weapons from dead npcs*
Yes. This is a legit complaint, I agree. See also: Shadow of The Tomb Raider.
*I THINK I'm going the right way, I hate this map*
Totally intentional. In fact, the map doesn't even work on the hardest setting. Why would Amanda know where she is going - she has never been to Sevastopol. You are supposed to find your way around, explore, drink in the atmosphere. Also, your scanner shows you where to go (once you've picked it up of course).
*God of War / overly-simple puzzles*
Again, yes. Agreed.
*The upgraded access tuner should make it faster not slower*
The added symbol represents the higher level of security lock.
*In a good stealth game, it's important to know enemy vision range / there should be visual feedback*
Well, not necessarily, no. You're not supposed to be in a dominant position at any time during Alien Isolation, you are the bottom of the food chain. In (early) Metal Gear, you're a highly-trained stealth operative with sci-fi equipment - but the camera is most often placed above you, therefore you cannot see where you're going, making the vision cones very important (which is stupid because these are supposed to be "advanced" soldiers yet can only see 5 feet in front of them, but I digress).
The very minimal UI is one of the reason I love this game, and funnily enough the abundance of UI elements is what put me off *Prey* - all those numbers and icons and health bars, just no. I may still pick it up though, as I hear that stuff can be switched off.
*Knocking over items doesn't make a sound to attract the alien*
Yes, good call, that would make things a lot more tense. In fact, the indie game "Among The Sleep" did this very well.
*The alien can't climb obstacles / navigate complex layouts*
While it's true it doesn't jump over tables and stuff, the alien does enter and traverse ventilation shafts that you also use, and this is *genuinely* terrifying.
*LV426 walking is boring*
I suppose this is just down to taste rather than a genuine good or bad point. I like it, if you don't that's fine. The objective is unclear though, I'll give you that.
*The derelict is ruined by Prometheus*
I actually agree, but that's not the game's fault.
*I wish the game wasn't a success because it shows that this is what we want*
The game apparently undersold severely, as such we have no sequel, which breaks my heart.
*The stealth is this game is bad*
I don't think it is though, there's a purity to it, a rawness. Minimal HUD/UI icons, you use your own vision and hearing to try and decipher where danger is and move from there, reacting as best you can when things don't go to plan.
*Ending with a QTE*
Yeah, disappointing finale gameplay-wise.
That's about what stood out to me. I thought I'd address things like a thoughtful person rather than a raging fanboy, haha.
I appreciate the comment. I'm genuinely surprised by the number of people saying the minigames are tense because they leave you vulnerable, when the vaaaast majority of them take place in moments when there are no threats around at all.
Under The Mayo That’s not necessarily true. The Alien hunts the player for at least two thirds of the total gameplay, even more if you were to back track to get all the collectibles after unlocking all the items and even when the Alien is not there, there are normally androids and enemy humans. The first few of the times you have to do the mini games and quicktime events were really just there to prepare you for what’s to come really, aside from that there are always enemies there.
Under The Mayo just want you to know this is the most smug, condescending, contrarian, nonsensical bullshit review you have ever done. I can’t believe how bad you are at reviewing anything other than Doom. Can’t believe you...
@@EmanGameplay didnt he call the people who liked alien isolation children?
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Personally I found the Alien stealth sections to be absolutely captivating and not confusing at all, especially on Hard difficulty. The Alien felt unpredictable but not frustratingly so. The developers struck a fine balance between making the Alien suitably unpredictable and scary, while giving the player enough tools to predict its movement to an extent and avoid it efficiently, while still moving towards your objective at a brisk pace.
i dont think they did, they made the alien tied to you, as if you're the only person on the station.
@MrWereverForever because you're not the only person on the station.
@MrWereverForever I heard that the game constantly knows where you are at all times and the alien acts as a completely separate program that has to use it's variety of environmental and visual sensors to find you without much help.
@MrWereverForever thanks
@@whodatninja439 You know that the alien interacts with npc's even unscrippted? Its not tied to you, the second Ai helping the alien is. Thats quite a huge difference mechanical wise.
The mini games aren't really meant to be difficult imo. They are just meant to keep your attention off the Alien while knowing it's out there.
but it makes the first few hours of the game boring af
@Tarbosaurus then why are there 2 hours of them? learn from half life 2 AND SPEED UP THE LEARNING PROCESS A BIT
@Tarbosaurus there is zero tension to build if there is no posibility of danger. If the alien isn't allowed to spawn in the first two hours, you are wasting my time
@@Nightflyermike it build tention, when you play the game first your don't know if you are in danger or not and actually the alien can come out after he killed axel at the start if u take too much time
and really it does not take 2 hours to "start' i went through all room and read everything since the start and it's only 30/45min before it "start"
@Tarbosaurus really you think pattern matching requires hours of prepartion
The unease felt throughout this game even when there are no enemies you still feel like you’re in danger through the fantastic sound design of rattling, creaking and clanging of the old decommissioned space station
The sound design and environmental design is fantastic.
@@underthemayo Surprised you still commented on your old videos.
Being afraid of jump scares is the cheapest trick in the book. It's just lazy.
A Batman horror game would definitely be something unique for Batman games. Kinda off topic, I was just thinking about that though.
You play as the criminal and Batman is the predator. Could make for a really haunting experience without having actual gore and other cliche horror stuff.
@@5udimax Or it takes place in Arkham Asylum as you play as Commissoner Gordon and Harvey Bullock while there's a breakout in Arkham Asylum, it could be really scary with all the maniacs in the Asylum.
I can imagine Killer Croc as the monster that is trying to hunt you down
I am surprised that a person with the joker as an avatar just happened to think about a Batman game, very unexpected. >.>
Batman fetish is becoming a thing in 2020.
Since 2014 Ripley is still in a locker hiding from robots in my save file.
I think she turned into a girl named Claudette in a game named Dead by Daylight and is instead now hiding from an almost naked blue ghost
@@joeyjointjebaiter1275 with urban?
@@dovahgoatdragonbear3075 yes
@@joeyjointjebaiter1275 good.
@@dovahgoatdragonbear3075 no you're mistaking Dwight and Claudette
Opening door has no fail state - does being eaten by the Alien count? It's pretty obvious the purpose of these tasks, turning on generators opening doors, they all take time so you have to plan around the alien. They show you them before the alien arrives so you know how to do them, this isn't rocket science. It is a stealth game. You literally suggest the player should get hurt by failing to open a door due to jamming her finger.
"We're supposed to be in the next generation of gaming". This was released in 2014. It's 2020.
Crafting is supposed to make you decide what items you need, so instead of finding items ready made and having what you find, you have to make a choice. It's not just to take time.
You repeatedly dismiss flavor text as useless or boring. To those of us who did not go out of their way to take a disliking to the game, or those of us who like the Alien world the flavor text was very good. It gives you a deeper sense of what has been going on, instead of just presenting this blank empty space station (it's not a ship, by the way). Without it we would not know why it is so empty except for the androids, why it is falling apart, and what it is even for. You clearly did not appreciate the atmosphere and this is part of that.
A more succinct and observant criticism here would be how the game gives mixed signals. On the one hand it encourages you to explore to find these logs and learn about the station, characters, and what happened. At the same time it actively discourages you from doing so by having you hunted at the same time. Since the flavor text is just that, flavor and non-essential, the smart decision would be to just ignore it.
The game has 4 difficulties. On the lowest the Alien is practically blind. Your videos show you playing on this difficulty, then proceed to criticize the game based on it being too easy and the alien not seeing you. Interesting.
"You can't whisper to get a guards attention and then quietly suffocate him".
One of the items you can craft (which you dismiss as time wasting) is a noisemaker, designed to ... get peoples attention. You can throw it at 'guards' to attract the alien to them, and it will kill them, or you can use it then sneak up behind and stealth kill them. You make no mention of this, and suggest that the game should have whispering? Along with your other suggestion of interrogating npcs. Are you kidding?
You claim the alien doesn't appear until the hospital part. While the Alien is dynamic and different per play, there are scripted encounters meaning the Alien always appears before this point. My conclusion then is that you are just straight up lying at this point.
Your sequence in which you die in the flaming room. Your motion detector has a bar to show you where to go. You check the map repeatedly to see where to go but don't check the item specifically given to you for this purpose. "And what do you know, you're not supposed to follow the objective on your map". No, you're not, you were told this in the game. Specifically. You clearly paid little attention, because you had no interest in this game and then criticized it for your own lack of attention.
The game is far from perfect and I could write an essay on it's problems, but your review is almost childlike in it's approach. You nitpick at every given opportunity without putting the thought into how something might act as a mechanic - like the door opening and generator starting. Being a mechanic does not necessarily mean it is good or free from criticism but this seems to have fallen on deaf ears. You either deliberately fail to mention it or simply couldn't comprehend it. Either way it is a dishonest review, by intent or stupidity the reader will have to decide.
Some of your suggestions are hilarious though.
nice essay
@@cocobolocabinet Thank you
Paul Stevens great comment 👍🏻
I don't know how I missed your comment, but I'm glad I read it. You point out exactly what's wrong with Mayo's video, and I agree with you : he didn't understand at all how and why most of the mechanics were done.
I agree with everything, but you shouldn't waste your time responding to clickbait youtube videos. Disliking and moving on is the best course of action. More interaction means his channel has better odds in the algorithm.
I was fine with the door puzzles because yeah they're braindead and easy when you have all the time in the world, but imagine hearing a vent burst open somewhere behind you when you're in the middle of solving one. The more pressured you are the easier it is to make mistakes on simple tasks.
Not only that, but its designed to be easy when you have the proper upgrade, but very difficult if you don't. Kinda like Deus Ex, where the hacking minigames are practically impossible if you didn't level up the Hacking skills, but the LVL 1's are still more forgiving than the LVL 4's. So in this game the hacking minigame is braindead easy because you have the proper LVL equipment. But if you try one that is a higher level, then its much harder and you have barely any time. Incentivising you to search out the upgrades, or try your luck.
Couldn't they make it so that you have to push one button and it attracts attention from nearby threats?
Yeah, Mayo completely missed the point of them. They’re not even really supposed to be “puzzles”
"No targeting parts of the body or light/heavy attacks" Bruh, what do you think this is? Dead space? Attacking is something that is a last resort, melee especially. I get the vibe that if the DID include the things you mentioned, we'd just here abunch of "oh them gee I thot dis was supposed 2b scary, why am I so strong??????" Or something like that.
My point is that it's absolutely basic, like everything else.
@@underthemayo it feels like youre not judjing the game as a survival horror, where combat is just meant to make you feel weak and disempowered, the revolver for example is there almost to just show how the alien can tank bullets and how resistant the androids are, its better to hide 90% of the time, i feel like youre treating this game like doom eternal or something
@@aguspuig6615 I think his point is that when you actually do have to attack something it doesn't feel as if the developer's thought out what attacking should play like. Meaning that it ends up playing like garbage because you just need to mash mouse 1 on a hostiles hit box.
@@aguspuig6615 naw fam,resident evil is what a real survival horror game.if the stealth was even remotely decent Mayo would not be complaining
@@aguspuig6615 In survival horror you actually can survive by smart choices, this game is total retardation of combat. If combat is the last resort and you should be weak. Why can you just spam the M1 button till they die? Doesn't seem like a good mechanic, even for a survival horror game.
what fundamentally irritates me is when people think being pedantic is the same as being critical.
You said it
Yes shallow and pedantic 🧐
@@trevor3013 i agree. shallow AND pedantic.
Absolutely spot on. This video is just a troll.. has to be, how could someone be so damn narrowminded.
Bear in mind you just reviewed a 6 year old game. To call it barely passable is ridiculous . The atmosphere and horror is second to none. Most people don't agree with you. The whole point of the slowless is to add to the threat of the alien. (I agree it's overused in walking sections). When you don't have the flamethrower in the medical bay is the most terrifying stealth i've ever played as the player is completely vulnerable and dependent on movement and hiding. It really is annoying that the game is so padded because the game has moments of brilliance.
And? There are games older than 6 years and had better gameplay, ideas, programming, etc. as this game. If you want to say it, even for a game that was released in 2014, it wasn't passable.
Romanische050 UTM is just being a smug, contrarian asshole for this entire review. This video was garbage.
@@EmanGameplay isolation is a bad survival/stealth horror game
Fatal Frame shows this quite well
@@V2ULTRAKill Fatal frame is a tank control fixed camera angle game. They ain't comparable. You just don't want to admit your god UTM is in the wrong.
@@EmanGameplay yes because me, someone who thinks prey is even bigger dogshit worships him
You have the brain of a peanut and dont understand good horror
Saying" This thing is basic and severely underprogrammed" about the Xeno in Alien Isolation is like saying "The Tsar Bomba is pathetically weak and could barely knock over a cardboard box"
Exactly... what a waste of my time it was watching this braindead video... give me back my time!!!
There's a crafting system in this game for the same reason there's a crafting system in Half-Life: Alyx - to make the player spend time exploring the rooms and areas they find themselves in. If you could just rush through spaces and pick up ready to use med kits like it was a Doom game, then there would be no tension, no anxiety, no horror. The entire atmosphere of the game would fall apart. Same with why all the animations take so long, why even saving the game is so tedious. If you could open doors with a snap of your fingers and save scum your way through the ship, then the Alien suddenly isn't so scary.
Exactly, the whole point is if you have low health and not enough materials to craft, you're now forced to explore and risk dying in hopes you find that missing ingredient for your health syringe.
Doesnt SCP containment breach has door which opens fast and that game is very tense
@@Aditya-iv8kx SCP Containment Breach has fast opening doors, yes.
But the horror mechanics of that game are completley different to Alien Isolation.
That game has blinking, having to not look at something's face so you don't almost instantly die.
That game's just a lot more complex than Alien Isolation. That's not a bad thing of course, a game can be very simple yet horrifying.
I played my first playtrough on nightmare :b, im like halfway in and literally every crate ive opened ahs been empty, it takes me like 10 deaths to get to the next save point and ive only been able to craft medkits because i have no materials.
If you have to resort to scavenging as an incentive to encourage exploration, you've got a boring environment on your hands. Well hey now....
I am convinced he watched ign's video on this game and thought to himself "I can do worse"
Hmm... I enjoy most of your videos and I gave this video a like, because I know you worked a lot for it, but you say so many wrong things about the game... You can hate it, all people cannot like a game of course, but you're wrong in many places and misinform about the game.
First, about the movement. Alien Isolation is supposed to be a slow game, that's a part of the experience. Amanda cannot jump and go through certain areas but that's how it works ; when you understand that, you play the game accordingly, and a normal player wouldn't try to do impossible things during all his playthrough. The game wants you to feel vulnerable, and for that you cannot move like a ninja. The Alien also cannot jump over beds or boxes, not because they couldn't program it, but because you would have no chance to escape it, really... The game balances perfectly between the ultimate predator the Alien is and the fact that it is a game, so the Alien cannot be overpowered.
The mini-games are simple, yes, but because it is not the focus of the game. They allow you to interact with the world, and the challenge is not to complete them, but to do it as fast as possible. You have a lot of them so that when you encounter them during the sessions where the Alien chases you, you know how to deal with them. And you have to do it quickly and smartly, because if you do it when the Alien is nearby, well... You'll die. They are meant to be instinctive.
7:30 - Yes, you can only hit people with your maintenance jack, maybe because... It is not an action game. As I said, you need to feel vulnerable, Amanda is not the Doomguy, you know. That's why I think you totally miss the point of the game, you always compare it to other games most oriented towards action, like Prey for example, while Alien Isolation is not about action AT ALL. It explains why you can't take the weapon of someone : the game imposes its pace. You have to learn how to deal with your first group of humans in M3 before the game gives you your first gun, then you only have the Shotgun when the game considers it to be useful, and with a few ammo, because, once again, weapons ar only an option in a horror game. It works like original DOOM maps, where you only have access to certain weapons when the conceptor of the map consider necessary to give you theses weapons, and not before.
7:54 - Just a quick note here, but if you wait for too long, the Alien drops in this place.
8:50 - I don't understand your complaints about the crafting system, because ten seconds after, you say it makes sense in a survival game, but you are in a survival-horror game, so... The crafting system does its job, you craft the items you think useful and it encourages the player to explore the map to loot everything so that you can be equipped for the more difficults parts of the game. You also totally bypass how the game encourages the creativity of the player. A:I gives you a lot of possibilities to deal with each situation and to play with the Artificial Intelligence of the game. You can use your flashlight, a noise maker, a flare, or making noise with your maintenance jack to attract somebody or make the alien attack a group of humans. You want to do a mini-game in peace ? Use a smoke bomb. A group of droids or humans ? Pipe bomb. You can make traps so that you can run and the alien will activate it when following you, etc. If you are out of fuel, the Alien can be stopped if you shoot at him, giving you some time to adapt. You can also shoot an oxygen cylinder to make an explosion which will affray the Alien... And all of that gives you enough tools to compensate your vulnerability and deal efficiently with the ennemies.
17:40 - Another moment that shows you don't know what type of game you are playing... It is slow , it's a fact, but it is made in order to immerse you in the game. I like the fact that they never fell into action and respected their motto for the game : they wanted to recreate the atmosphere of the first movie, not of Aliens. Of course, if you don't agree with this vision and if you like Aliens more than the first movie, then you won't like the game, but you should have known what the game was about before playing it.
19:00 - Well, the detection system is not hard to understand... When you are behing a box, a bed, a table, the ennemy cannot see you, even if there is some «invisible» spaces. When an ennemy detects you, like this android did (but apparently you didn't see it, which your fault, not the game's), there is a small moment of «warning», which means the android will stop moving and will watch you, or the Alien does a «hissss», and then they will attack. This small moment shows you that you have been noticed, so you have a little time to adapt yourself. You can either decide to face the ennemy, or hide better so that the ennemy will «forget» you and just continuing examining the area. If the game does that and gives you this moment of «warning», it is because without it and if the Alien would be able to attack you as soon as it sees you, a normal player will have actually zero chance to survive, and the game would be totally unbalanced and unfair. Imagine the poor IGN reviewer against an Alien that gives you no chance to escape. There is a mod that does what you say, about the Alien and its behaviour. The mod makes the Alien moves really fast permanently and it attacks you as soon as it sees you or as soon as he hears you doing noise. And it is BRUTAL. And I weigh my words. Only veteran players (aka speedrunners) can deal with that. It is an other aspect where the game is really intelligent. The Alien has to be unpredictable, but as a game, the player needs to understand how the AI works to be able to deal with it, and that's why the AI in Alien Isolation is so good.
23:50 - Yep, when you use the sprint button twice a second instead of maintening it, it doesn't attract the Alien. You can also use «silent walk» which makes no sound at all by pressing forward + right (if I remember correctly). Of course, it totally breaks the game, but apparently you want to do a second part, so if it can help you going into certain places quicker...
34:20 - Hey, didn't you complain that the game didn't encourage you to explore ? And when you have to explore, you are lost ! That's the point of Alien Isolation, you are lost in the station, you know nothing about this station but you need to find a way to get out, and to do that you explore the station to discover what can help you to progress, with the constant pressure of the Alien chasing you. Also, you seem to be very alienated by the map, so stop watching it and explore by yourself ! It will prevent you from doing the same mistakes over and over again.
I had to do this commentary, because even if the video is 50 minutes long, it is really incomplete. Not only you show that you didn't understand the game mechanics, but also how it was designed.
Thank's for reading.
P.S : Forgive me if I did stupid language mistakes, I am not a native English speaker.
Napo Zoulou I have to say I agree with everything you’ve just said.
You sir are absolutely correct the game is not perfect but it's really good i hope under the mayo sees this comment and understand the game mechanics
Btw where can i find that mode i really need it
@@zephyrken4390 I hope Mayo will see it too.
For the mod, you don't want to try it, trust me, unless you are very familiar with the game and know some of the speedrun techniques. I chose this example to show that without the time of «warning», and if the ennemies were super intelligent, the game would be totally broken and unbalanced. Basically, in the mod, the ennemies are hypersensitive and will notice you from far away if you make any little noise or if you enter in their line of sight even for half a second. Furthermore, the Alien is constantly running and the androids are running too. The humans will also start shooting at you immediatley, etc. This is more a troll mod designed for hardcore players and speedrunners.
However, if you want a «fair» hardcore mod, you can install the multiple aliens mod, which enhances a lot the difficulty only with the normal AI, so that you have a chanve to survive. It adds up to five aliens and it is a pretty good challenge for an experienced player.
Anyway, you will find all the information you need on Pyscho Hypnotic's discord, including the links to download these mods.
At 4:26 who the fuck would be challenged by that it's literally just press a button
@@tydendurler9574 Well, first you'll have to prove that I didn't understand his «arguments». Good luck...!
Secondly, the main problem is that you can't build good arguments if you don't understand the mechanics of a game. It's like trying to criticize a book but you didn't understand a single line of what you read. You will fail, badly. As Mayo don't understand the purpose of a lot of important mechanics, the only thing he can say is : «I don't like how the game plays». That's not an argument, that's an opinion.
8:05 If you wait a few seconds after the transit arrives, he will drop down. Confirmed.
Wait, does he? I never knew that
It was one of the most nerve-wracking parts of the game, deciding weather or not to hug the door or hide further away behind some boxes knowing he's getting closer was spooky.
@@georgereeves8137 If you play on Hard or nightmare it does without fail. You'll hear it just as the transit is taking off.
Make any sound or flash the light and on Nightmare it'll drop before transit arrives. I tested it out beacuse it dropped once and I didn't think it was active that early. I thought it was scripted vent noise.
@@georgereeves8137 check Pewdiepie gameplay. He making too much noise and draw the Alien out
49:22 "We deserve a good Alien game."
We Do, and we got one. It's called Alien: Isolation.
Prey really isn't comparable to Alien: Isolation.
Except the soundtrack is just as good in Prey as it is in Alien Isolation. Puzzles in Prey are challenging compared to Ailen Isolation. Oh Prey's spacewalk sequences are super cool the sounds that play outside Talos 1 is immaculate and dread filling. A.I also had good atmosphere but not as dread filling. The minigames in Alien Isolation killed my enjoyment because they aren't intense not because they're no enemy's; these minigames just don't involve me in the atmosphere.
@@zerosnake2669 Both prey and isolation are amazing games
Mayo: “OMG, stop complaining about the marauder, nobody gets the point... stop nitpicking about things you don’t understand”
Also Mayo: “WHY I ONLY HAVE 4 SHOTGUN SHELLS IN A SURVIVAL HORROR GAME? I JUST WANT TO SHOT THINGS! THIS GAME SUCKS!!! WALKING IS BORING!!!”
if it's not Doom Eternal it sucks.
@@whodatninja439 This but unironically.
People will always irrarionally defend the flaws of what they like and strive to highlight flaws on what they dislike.
The fact this dude made a RUclips channel and is pretty good at Doom does not exempt him from that.
That is 100% the entire video and you are not just mad that he didn't like a game
Sinceraly about the marauder he was right but this rawiew it's not very good It make some good points but the rest Is like Watching an IGN rawiew about Doom eternal im not saying that alien isolation Is best game ever sure the human ai Is horrible offcuorse but the alien ai Is really good and i like it
I can basically speed run this game I’ve played so many times. I love it.
r u hate this review
What is there to love about a series of doors?
@@JoesGuy nice opinion. Did a youtuber give it to you?
@@JoesGuy oh shutup
@@groovi35 Not an argument. Off you go.
from personal experience (playing on hard difficulty and normal):
- the alien does show up in that section where you have to wait for transit, trust me it caught me really off guard
-The long waiting for doors and such isn't difficult but the waiting is the difficulty, I mean have you seen the amount of people who have gotten fucked over of it, and its not bad, but it definitely adds tension and you have to set up your time before doing it (especially if you're getting chase and/or are surrounded by hostiles).
- I actually think the a.i is pretty good, from the many times that I've died, even though yes the alien has sometimes not seen me when I'm right there, but also I noticed that if you don't attract the alien then he will almost never come out of the vents, and if you do then it becomes more frequent and more difficult to get to your objective. and I cannot count how many times I thought I would be safe under a bed only for this asshole to check it.
-Also the times the alone has been in a roof vent and I didn't pay attention, disappointed to say how much it screwed me during chase sequences. not only that but you can definitely trigger an alien encounter if you get to careless, trust me I've summoned him on purpose so he could kill other people on the station
- A lot of blocked off sections (like doors) are ones you can access later in the game when you have to return to said areas and I think that's pretty good considering you get this sort of satisfaction from finally being able to open that one door you couldn't before.
- The minigames have been a threat to me, a lot. There has been times where I've had to do some 4x speed tactics to get them done before an android catches me and also before an alien shows up, sure its nothing tense at first but as it gets more difficult and as encounters become more common you will definitely wish it was easier. (tuner upgrade is to open higher security, besides why would they make it easier when the game is supposed to get harder?)
- I don't understand how the map is difficult, the only times I've ever gotten lost was my own fault for trying to run thinking it was one way then check the map and notice my mistake
- You don't have to pay that much attention to the memos, when there's a code its highlighted, and usually the most important part is the utility.
-Pretty sure you wouldn't focus so much on trying to find out what happened to your mom when you're trying not to get killed by everything around you.
- I could say a lot more but no one probably cares, but overall I think what you want from the game is so out of what the game is, why would a SURVIVAL horror have a lot of action and fast segments, its supposed to be slow and tense and people who enjoy it aren't "people who don't like real videogames" or children, it just seems like you want a game to give you something its not and that somehow being the game's fault for being slow (again, horror games are usually slow and tense) i agree with somethings you said but yeah no.
Alien Isolation is *not* a Survival Horror.
@@DatCameraMON ...yes it is
@@awkr_wave2002 it is a Stealth Horror, not Survival Horror.
@@DatCameraMON I mean... but you're surviving, limited resources, you cant kill xenomorph, hard to kill androids so you dont want to waste ammo, aspects of sruvival horror
@@awkr_wave2002 An unstoppable stalker is not a defining trait of a survival horror. Those are more often associated with a Stealth Horror game. Games where you spend the majority of the gameplay time sneaking from spot to the next hoping you aren't spotted are not a Survival Horror, it is a Stealth Horror.
If you look at the original RE, it is all about balancing your supplies around either trying to dodge around enemies so that you don't have to waste any supplies clearing them out or dealing with all the enemies in an area and clearing it for the future at the expense of losing some supplies.
Alien Isolation makes you do the exact opposite. Instead of dodging around the enemies, you are *sneaking* around them trying not to draw attention. Fighting is *rarely* worth it, in fact the game actively discourages you from doing so since it makes noise.
I thought you were joking for the first few minutes, unfortunately I disagree with a lot of your criticisms. I would suggest you look into the design philosophy and look for reasons as to why people like the game. I feel you left some aspects unappreciated as well, such as the story of the station itself- which you learn about via reading the data logs.
One example I have to defend the game is for the crafting system, if I am correct it was actually made intentionally clunky and awkward to use to increase the tension as the game is not paused when you use it, so if you make a bad call and craft when it is not safe or pull out the wrong item in a panicked rush (something I’ve done) you made be killed by the alien or androids as a result.
My criticism with the crafting system as a time filler is much less to do with the clunkiness of crafting in real time, and much more to do with the fact that the effect of the crafting is to have every room filled with 3 or 4 boxes that you have to slowly walk up to and open, retrieve, and close with 3 button presses every time. And that even though it has crafting, and hours of "walk up to box and pick up the contents", there is NO inventory management at all so what's the point of asking me if I want to take things?
Under The Mayo again I reference the point of making crafting clunky and slow, so the way I see it, having to walk up and look in every cabinet adds to peril (on harder difficulties resources for crafting are less prevalent so you have to be considerate as to what you commit to an item).
While there is no inventory management you can still “manage” what you have e.g. I saw an ethanol that I wanted to pick up but had no more space, nor did I have enough components to make a full molotov, so I simply committed one ethanol which allowed me then to pick up another. As I said on higher difficulties it’s harder to find resources, so you need to be more considerate as to what you craft, that and the alien I found is much easier to attract, thus I find I am able to search fewer lockers or cabinets (or it takes longer if I’m desperate) as the alien is snooping around and harder to get rid of for prolonged periods of time, that’s why I play on nightmare- also you have to use more flamethrower fuel to scare off the alien.
Captain Gar honestly that’s kind of just a super cheap excuse to say “oh it just adds to the tension.” I love this game but it has many flaws, and this is one of them.
@@captaingar9244 and the same goes for the puzzles in doors and stuff, there are many different ones, not supper hard, but enough to be unnerving, becuase you know if you take more than 18 seconds to finish it you gotta restart and the alien is probably nearby if youre in any high difficulty
Ethan Kotas it’s not an excuse, for what I said is valid. As I said on nightmare with a much more present alien I find I must be much more tactful and it can be hard to get things done when the alien is constantly prowling down a one way corridor. But I love it too at the end of the day and hope we see a sequel in the future- alien blackout the mobile app doesn’t count.
13:37
nice! i love that. the guy putting his hand on the door to say:"I need to test your brain" made me laugh so hard
@Ben Turner the strawberry is.. ummm... This one! The middle one!
You need to have big brain too pass
The point of the 'minigames' isn't to be challenging, nor pander to casual players - it is meant to be slightly time consuming while you match symbols/mash buttons, etc. as the constant potential consequence is a Xenomorph breathing down your neck.
It adds a real sense of tension that I personally enjoyed.
I love most of your videos, but this game just doesn't seem to be down your alley.
For me, and many others, Alien Isolation continues to be, start to finish, exactly what we've been asking for in a horror-based Alien game.
And yes, that includes the 2 hour lead up to the very impactful Alien reveal, as that lead time helps to really build the tension and atmosphere (as well as giving the player adequate time to geek out at the incredible recreation of the Nostromo in-game :)
I wish i could have worded my opinion on this game as well as you did. The build-up, tension, everything. As you said, this doesn't seem to be his kind of game. If you have seen it, do you agree with Angry Joe's review? Because I believe that's the least this game deserves.
Or you could play better horror games that dont use the alien license
Fatal Frame 2 anyone
I don't know wich game this guy played, but i doesn't look like is Alien: Isolation...or at least it wasn't the game he was expecting.
My playtrough was pure terror until now, and i find the game fantastic.
This guy propably wants a shooter game, not an horror game, maybe he give up about in the middle of the game, who knows? Maybe he should play colonial marines instead...
if the point of them is to add tension, than why not let players fail them if they make a mistake. it only improves that goal of tension as you press a wrong button and have to restart the process.
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I honestly dont mind the back tracking, it makes you feel like you are really stuck on this station, and the consoles tell the backstory of what happened to the station. I get some people dont care about that stuff but i really appreciated it. Also, all that “padding” isn’t to lengthen the game, its to make the situation more intense when the alien is stalking you. I think you just missed the whole point of the game, its supposed to be an atmospheric horror story, not just a series of new things to distract people with adhd. Alien Isolation is much like Ridley Scotts original Alien, you have to be in the mood to watch it, and when you are, its awesome.
Can you imagine a game being based on a submarine and somebody complaining about backtracking
it doesnt get more intense. it just gets boring as you've already seen and done enough by the time you've finished 2/3s of the game.
Hey Mayo, I don’t think you realize that this isn’t doom. This is a survival horror game, so you need to be vulnerable. This game is labeled as survival horror, so I don’t know why you excepted.
Shit.... I didnt realize this wasn't an action game! If I did, I would have prefaced this video with a section that talks about other slow paced action-light stealthy horror games that I like. Oh wait, that's exactly what I did.
@MrWereverForever "This game is a joke." I fixed it for you.
@@underthemayo you sound like yandere Dev both with your “review” and your voice
Sorry but I'm at minute 8 and have only heard negatives, so I will not continue. I have never played this game, but the negativity of this video is putting me down man.
Don’t worry about it it’s honestly a great game he’s just making mountains out of mole hills
These guys made Total War games for a decade before releasing this. For a first shot at the first person horror genre, I'd say they made a commendable effort.
Yeeep
“I may have gone too far in a few places.”
You sound like the people you criticize regarding Doom, just nitpicking. A couple minigames I can get, but everything else is a bad complaint.
It took me way less than 2 hrs to meet the alien. I found myself in multiple situations where unlocking the door was tense, the alien was nearby and I was terrified. I have even been caught in the act and killed a few times because of it.
You're bitching about the smallest parts of the gameplay. No mention of the main course, the alien. Playing on hard or nightmare the materials are rare, I had to pick and choose gadgets for when they were needed.
Want backstory? Terminals. Don't? Don't read them. And keypad codes are not that common.... you missed the forest for the trees on this one.
His point when he picked up the maintenance jack was one of the stupidest points I've ever heard
It's a completely disingenuous misleading review. If you like challenging survival horror and the alien franchise you will probably enjoy this experience on the harder modes. If you are actively adverse to immersive survival horror, don't play this game and waste our time with whining about it for an hour.
Holy crap he actually camplains about looting cocooned corpses in a survival horror game. He's just a troll.
Nitpicking? He talking about the core parts of the game, the stealth is just bad, the game gives you no direction when you actually need it, also wtf do you mean not read the terminals? If they aren’t important then why are they in the game!
@@garrettcooper8348 go play something else, shoo, go away.
I enjoy most of your reviews, but this felt disingenuous. The whole point of the game is to make you feel alone and vulnerable in a strange, mysterious place. The doors, mini games, save posts, and vents are all designed to take up time, thus leaving you exposed.
15:23 I love finding terminals because I want to learn more about what is going on. Allow yourself to be immersed in the fantasy
20:00 disagree.
20:37 Hot take.
21:12 The human definitely noticed you, lol
21:35 You already critiqued how long it takes to open doors. The door here is automatic, thus saving time. If you accidentally opened automatic doors and alerted the alien you would complain about that too.
21:42 Amanda Ripley is a survivor and engineer (hence she can craft and knows how to maneuver around the station). She is not a special operative trained in interrogation.
26:18 You can return to this area later, and you won't die in the smoke
27:24 "Games can be hard"
29:05 lol
29:20 you are told multiple times in the game that other people are just trying to survive and will either not help or kill you. This isn't a surprise
32:00 so you're oblivious?
32:30 You claim the game lied to you because it wants you to, "traverse" instead of, "find a route". Therefore you are also a liar because you claim the game tells you to, "climb up" when it clearly says, "traverse".
37:05 I think this is a key point to understanding your disapproval of Alien: AI. You want a shotgun with lot's of ammo to blast through enemies. This is a survival horror. The game is slow paced and wants you to use weapons as a last resort. There is nothing wrong with this.
40:57 Bad take. Like every other game with any kind of loot, corpses in Alien: AI have loot. What difference does it make if they are in the hive or habitation deck? Also, you just spent time explaining how frustrating it is you can't kill everyone with a shotgun, and now you're making an argument that death is sad? What?
41:16 I found every location capable of inspiring dread. It's subjective.
42:20 Industrial Working Joes are stronger than their counterparts, and can't be taken out with an EMP. That is, they present a greater challenge.
43:54 There it is. You wanted an action game.
49:13 Get out of her, man lol.
49:19 We got one. It's called Alien: AI
49:46 Imma go check it out
I think the game just wasn't for you. Your review made it seem like you had no interest in the story, universe, or immersion. Also, the title seems like click bait.
I enjoy a lot of your videos. I particularly like the DOOM Eternal videos (In fact I like to go back and forth between Doom and Alien: AI. It's fun to live a power fantasy one day, and survival horror the next). However I disagree with this review and think it is one big hot take.
This is perfect, this video just made me mad.
Perfect reply
I agree. I would add, that the "padding" isn't there to be challenging, they are there to extend the time it takes to move about, especially when the alien is about, making your timing of when you open the door the real challenge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he can attack when you're in the mini-games.
THANK YOU! I almost agree with everything, except:
21:42 I'm pretty sure by "interrogation" he meant simply being able to talk to NPC's and get some kind of useful information out of it (there is actually one place in the game where you can do that, but it's completely optional and it's not clearly indicated that you are supposed to talk to them). Maybe even negotiate with the hostile ones. I can see your point of how it doesn't really suit the theme and feel of the game, but it would probably make it better as a game AND as a believable story experience.
26:18 Yes, but since you first see it during that sequence, you'd think it would be placed there to aid you right now, not give you some unrelated exposition half a game later.
27:24 That's not addressing his point that he had already completed that section only to be forced to do it again because he died in the next one. That's where I'll have to agree with him: there should have just been an autosave after the explosion.
29:20 I think a better argument here would be the fact that they literally say "SHOOT ANYTHING THAT MOVES!" when you first enter that area. Though, I have to cut him some slack because (as he brings up later) there are times when you would assume the NPC's are hostile when, in fact, they're not and you get a failstate for killing them (my least favourite design choice in the whole game).
32:30 Well, the issue here is that he assumed that climbable ledge WAS the blockage, while in reality it was to the right of it... straight across from where you first enter the area. He could have easily avoided that whole conundrum if he had followed the characters' movement, checked the signal detector more and actually listened to the dialogue. Seriously, his character literally says "There's a path through there! Give me a leg up!", which I presume he ignored.
40:57 I think the issue with the shotgun, once again, was that the game punishes you for killing people who have no guns and who Ripley has no reason to care about. But yeah, she should care about the people in the hive just as much as for all the people she's killed.
42:20 Don't see how that's relevant.
One last thing, I agree that the way he criticized this game was BS, but he totally has the right to not give a crap about the story, the universe and the immersion. It's subjective and doesn't make up for any of the flaws in the gameplay (which, by the way, there are many, but it's not nearly as bad as this guy made it out to be).
@@Dan0RG thank you for your reply. I agree with some of your points. Fun is subjective. That's why I think the game just wasn't his style.
the "fail state" when removing the braces from the doors with the maintenance jack, operating switches, turning on generators, hacking, using keycards, blow torches etc come from getting caught by the alien while performing these operations. you are vulnerable and exposed while performing these actions, so choose when to do these actions wisely, and be quiet about it. I spose a "fail state" could have been added by making these actions noisier or something
Right? I feel like he essentially does it on purpose to leave these bits out during this review. There is absolutely urgency during gameplay. There's a reason you can look left and right even when saving.
most of them are used in situations where you aren't even in danger so its a fair complaint for such a long game. it works decently well in tense areas but it also just gets annoying after a while if you constantly have to do it in areas where there is no current threat.
And that rarely happens, even on the hardest difficulty.
literally every one of these actions could have been a single button press and it wouldn't make any difference, after you do an action once you know what to press and you are just waiting for the animation to finish.
@@JoesGuy it regularly happens to me
Mayo, at 8:10 the Alien does show up if you take too long to enter the train. My favorite moment in the whole game.
Honestly, appears like he's just upset they didn't make the game specifically for him. It's like choosing to listen to a country playlist on Spotify and then complaining that there is not enough Daft Punk. He comes across as disingenuous and just seems to complain for the sake of complaining sometimes. He constantly compares it to PREY instead of judging it based on its own merits. If he loved PREY so much then he should replay that game, not criticize this game for not being similar enough to it. Two different genres for two different audiences. I really enjoyed the funny skits but overall it just made me dislike his seeming lack of perspective and self-centered view of games as a whole. I appreciate the work done in expressing your opinion, I just believe it was done for the wrong reasons. Also, was the clickbait title really necessary?
Yes exactly when he mentioned how awesome prey is i stop taking him seriously because he was going for that type of game and both games are way different and excellent on their own setting this review has some good points but mostly it's stupid and hilarious!!
@@zephyrken4390 he literally just complains for the sake of complaining i meam take a look at his god of war review...the mans standards are too fucking high
@@gojizard704 well his god pf war review was pretty good (imo) and he had good points he was comparing them to old god of war games which was ok but when you compare god of war to (RE) games that is just way too stupid
@@zephyrken4390 true true still he thinks all games should be of his tastes personally i have hardly any standards when it comes to games only when theyre physically inpossible to play like superman 64 or when the personality of a character you known for a while is changed drastically to be as the exact opposite of the character like metroid other m or has a very messed up and jumbled up story like tlou 2 then i can complain
Watch his latest vid
lol how does alien isolation have bad ai?
You realize the Alien can actually learn from you and adapt based on your play style. If that isn’t good ai I don’t know what is
He meant the human ai not the alien, I guess.
@@thewanderingartists oh yeah humans are dumb but I thinks it’s intentional
23:18 < he mentions it
i played the game for 30 hours and never noticed this.
if the alien actually does this then its so subtle that its not even worth mentioning.
Because it doesn't learn from you. It's predictable as hell, granted you're smart enough not to keep using lockers.
Most of your points are indeed valid but this feels like beating a dead horse now. Yes, the game felt restricted and dumbed down at times, this hurt the gameplay but the whole experience was still great. The universe was recreated perfectly, the atmosphere was fantastic and the feeling of dread ever present. This is what made it a BRILLIANT game.
I wouldn't even say most of his points are valid, several of them are straight up wrong. Plus he seems to completely miss the point of its gameplay systems (like the minigames are not meant to be challenging puzzles, they are supposed to force you to stop moving and do a thing so that you are more vulnerable, meaning you have to play smart and time when to use them). Heck he mentions how he likes horror games like Silent hill, but then he complains about the physical combat not having a block, hard and light attacks, or a bunch of action game elements, as though that is needed. Despite that being the exact same for Silent Hill, which is a much more comparable style game than what he's thinking. Plus he seems to have encountered a lot of bugs that he just assumed were normal gameplay things. And certainly bugs are a bad thing, and not his fault. However the amount of bugs he mentions are bizarre, and don't reflect the actual game (though it does have a few common, but not harmful, bugs).
I feel like he came in wanting to hate the game, or was in a bad mood and one thing bothered him and from then on he was never going to give it a proper go. Also he complains about the length of the game a lot, yet all of those complaints seem to directly tie to his own fault, and not the game, it should NOT have taken him that long to get through the beginning section, unless he WANTED to take that long. Not only that, but the only way to solve this issue, would be to remove everything extra and just make it all linear hallways with no ability to look into extra rooms, which I know he would hate that. So this is actually the best of both worlds, people who want to immerse can check out those rooms, so its a more lived-in world, while the rest can just progress immediately. I just don't see the problem with that, this game is clearly prioritizing immersion for those that always wanted to see the world of Alien in detailed 1st-person.
Anyways, sorry for the long comment, but I found this video pretty dissapointing, and its clear its just a game that he hates because of reasons beyond just the game, or its a tiny part that sours the whole experience, and we ALL have a game like that so I get it. Sucks he couldn't enjoy it, but I wish he had at least given a proper criticism of it on its own merits and not what he wanted it to be. (although his explanation of how it "should've" been, is literally HOW it already is, so I have no clue how he missed the entire point of the game)
@@GBDupree Mayo should actually take a look at your comment because I think he just needs to at least try not to bash it. Hell yhatzee actually liked the game and everyone knows how much of a hardcore cynic he is.
@@MrDerp-bf8nt Yeah, sadly this was my first video from Mayo so it wasn't the best first impression. I didn't mind some others I watched but it definitely made me hesitant about his stuff.
Like Alien Isolation isn't the best game ever and I'd wager it actually has a lot wrong with it. But the thing is that I've been very critical of games in general lately, especially horror games, but something about this one made me really enjoy it and not feel to concerned about some of its gameplay choices, or their association with worse games (like the locker hiding is such a bad design in other games but I don't feel so bad about it in this one since its actually not very useful and you have many other ways of dealing with the situations).
So I feel like perhaps Mayo came in with the wrong mindset, but I also don't know what the right one should be. Perhaps this game just isn't his style, heck I would say its not mine in general but there is this charm to it that I can't deny but perhaps has no effect on him.
But I hope he at least re-examines some of his critiques since I feel they are completely wrong or he is merely misunderstanding the purpose. Like with the minigames.
In conclusion, this is a janky game, but one with a lot of heart and charm and I feel bad he couldn't enjoy it.
@@GBDupree this Mayo dude judged the crafting and looting part about this game. He said, he can fully understand this mechanic, when its a survival game. Alien isolation is considered to be SURVIVAL Horror. When he pointed out, that medkits had to be crafted. When he said this, he was in a section, where a already built medkit was near by a corps.
The crafting system wasnt a time killer, it took you just seconds below 10, sometimes 3.
Every person who praises this game to the heavens always dismisses the objective issues in favor of how the objective "feels." Every. Person.
I also yelled “GIVE ME THE SHOTGUN” in my play through. I can relate so hard
Im guessing they wanted you to get a shotgun at a later time so that people that were playing stealthily would get it as fast as everyone else even if they didnt kill anyone. Thats still really stupid, cause shotguns are loud as hell and wouldnt work if you were playing stealthy
I can't remember where I heard this from but apparently the firearms used in Alien Isolation can't kill the Aliens because they're not as strong as the Marine weapons which makes no sense. In AVP Remastered when you play as the Marine you're given a pistol probably 9MM. We know .357 is a bigger round compared to 9MM So I don't know what the writers thought when they got to the weapons.
I think the last time I watched the video talking about the guns not being able to kill the Aliens was around 1-2 years, my bad.
I yelled that when I killed someone that had a revolver
Why didn’t they just show the shotgun as visibly busted or something akin to that, do literally anything so that the player doesn’t feel as if they’re being cheated, I see so many games with this problem and it can be especially infuriating in action oriented games like Tomb Raider
I had a completely different experience with this and never questioned all the door stuff. The premise is you are helpless aboard this giant space station with a xenomorph that can attack you at any time. The game doesn't go into a paused menu when you are reading computers. There's supposed to be tension at all times and the game really does build to the nest area which I agree is the best area. Amanda is not some advanced stealth warrior so the game gives her the ability of a normal person in a bad situation. If the stealth doesn't do it for you and you aren't drawn in by the atmosphere, then you aren't going to like this because it is a ton of walking and backtracking. The pathways being blocked off is a common issue in all games and the feeling you felt during the area where you had to repeat everything over repeatedly is why I'm not a fan of the Dark Souls genre. Things stop becoming fun and lose the impact they had when you keep seeing them to get back to where you were. I thought Prey was a lot more forgettable than this. Also way more action oriented while this was way more of a slow burn. Sorry you hated it. Still gave me one of the best horror experiences I've had in any medium in recent memory as a huge horror fan.
That is exactly why he keeps pointing out Prey in every video. He obviously do not like any slow pace games so he keeps nitpicking on everything. I'm pretty sure if every puzzle was completely original he would say something like "What is this? A puzzle game?" Why he didn't like that Doom level he mentioned in a video? Because it was cramped and had much less action than more open sections where action is really intense. I don't know why he even picked this game.
There are some points I agree on, but a lot that I really don't. I give this review an F :)
I was especially baffled when he explained how he thought the game SHOULD have been, only to then explain (with cartoon pictures) exactly how it ALREADY plays. Just how buggy was his version?
I think it was a case of him not really wanting to like the game, then forcing himself to play it and one little thing just soured his mood and from then on he was never going to allow himself to enjoy it. Its a common problem for people, I'm sure we ALL have one game that happened with. But its still sucks that he let that cloud his judgement and this review suffered because of it.
GBDupree I think you're right!
You are totally wrong about this game. Anyone who believes you is missing out. Play some games. Learn how to play. Learn what's good. Then say something meaningful.
You're right. The mini games are fantastic.
@@underthemayo
You completely missed the point and decided to go with sarcasm.
What a brainlet
Honestly great points, especially the derelict scene, but also unnecessarily harsh. I almost stopped watching because the whole video felt like an appeal to people who already hated the game and needed some confirmation bias to get high on.
It sounds like you wanted an action game and got a survival horror game... and you contradict yourself a lot. You said you like the lore then complain about the emails. You said you liked survival horror and then complain about not having enough guns. You said the minigames were fun when there’s a threat of the alien and it only happened at the end... that’s the entire game. I think you missed the survival horror nature of this game because you wanted an action game. Calling this game an embarrassment is a bold statement and i believe it highlights how much you misunderstood what you were actually playing
It sounds like you are a salty fanboy
@@donaldhysa4836 sounds like a salty simp lmaoo
@@donaldhysa4836 you already called someone a salty fanboy... didn't even see all of your comments, but damn. Hiw big of a hypocrite are u, when your only argument is "salty fanboy"?
@@donaldhysa4836 disagreeing with someone’s opinion doesn’t make you a salty fanboy.
I would say the game is more of a stealth horror than a survival horror.
2:21 amanda literally fell down those planks
I'm gonna critique a game.
Step one: Pick a game I obviously don't like.
Step two: Pretend I enjoy the franchise this game belongs to and never go into detail as to how the game story delivers based on source material.
Step three: Nitpick
Step four: Throw MY expertise on the developer's true intentions for the game, and say they suck.
Step five: Post the video
Step six: Read comments and realize my review of this game is oddly reminiscent of 21Killoton's doom eternal review.
Step seven: Be humbled, interact with comments, and understand valid points.
Step eight: Never make part 2. (or accept the valid criticisms for part one if I do)
Seriously Mayo I have mad respect for you're doom eternal content, but this...this was hard to watch.
Keep trying though.
How do you know he lied when he said he enjoyed the franchise?
@MrWereverForever Where?
You complete destroyed him, this is the most pretentious review I’ve ever seen. This guy is annoying
@MrWereverForever Bruh.
This is what I like to refer to as a verbal K.O
This is really good game, and it stays true to the soul of alien. You can not kill the alien, and thats what makes it so terryfing. I loved it.
The Alien actually does show up right after I kill axel. It appears right when you walk in. I think it might only happen on harder difficulties
Well I played it on hard. And people have said that it appears if you wait a bit. I went straight for the door.
@@underthemayo that's fair, also I somehow didn't get a notification for this reply and it makes me sad
@@underthemayo the first time I played it. I was waiting for the tram and the alien showed up before the tram got to the station. Every time I play it I still hide.
@@underthemayo if you make noise or run around waiting for the transit (after axel is killed) the alien will drop down and murder you. If you dont get into the transit right after it arrives, and wait for a bit instead, the alien will drop down aswell and murder you.
Imagine if in re1 you only found puzzle items in the same room as the puzzle
It seems like you and I had totally different experiences with this game. You describe how in the nest the mini games have the added threat of the alien possibly killing you, and that you didn't feel that anywhere else. When I played the game, I started on hard, but had to drop it to easy because of how relentless the alien was. I literally couldn't move ten feet without it dropping out of the vent within a few feet of me, and I'm very mediocre at stealth games. Even on easy, every step was a tense game of cat and mouse. Any extra sound I made would attract it. On my play through that included knocking over objects in the environment, gunshots, and the pings from using the motion tracker. There were also times I ran out of flame thrower fuel because the damn thing just kept coming at me. So there was the tension of resource management, the tension of the alien's relentless assaults. I'm not saying that your experience didn't happen, it's just bizarre to me how it seems like we had objectively different experiences with the game mechanics.
I think the problem with a lot of professional reviewers is that they assume everyone is on the same skill level as they are. By pretty much all accounts, Alien Isolation is a very challenging game. In fact, I think it would have been more commercially successful if it had been LESS challenging. Most players never complete the game. I figure half of them because they don't really appreciate the helplessness aspect of being in a survival horror game and the other half because they got tired of dying all the time. But I'm a pretty average gamer and I finished it 3 times, at least one of those was on the Hard setting.
When I played it on medium It didn't feel like I was feeling the terror that they were feeling in the movie. So i bumped it up to hard and I was like. That's what I want. I never lowered the difficulty ever again. I'm going to try nightmare again
You're right. He had a different experience because he's on the easiest difficulty setting, where the alien is borderline blind and doesn't punish you nearly as much as the other difficulty levels. He complains and cries that the mini games are too easy and that the crafting system doesn't need to exist, but misses the point of both entirely because he likes everything to be Doom Eternal. A few of his critiques are fair, but this review is even worse than the CoD player from IGN, which probably killed this game on release.
Exactly. For me, the Alien is always coming to my position every 20 seconds. Its like the Alien can smell me. For Mayo on the other hand, the Alien hardly arrived.
Wow, congratulations on the clickbait Mayo!
I hadnt heard of it before so i actually thought it was gonna be good
@@joeyjointjebaiter1275 me too
@@whirligig_saw yeah. The initial positivity baited me in
@@joeyjointjebaiter1275 that title got me good i was waiting for him to start praising the game ngl
110% yes
I love this game btw. First play through was on the hardest difficulty. The game literally triggered a “fight, flight, freeze” response from me. The response being to freeze.
It felt surreal that a game was capable of that. My brother was watching me play. He couldn’t believe it either.
The best part about this game.. right at the beginning, when you wake up, they have exactly what a person would want after hibernation: a cigarette and a porno mag. You can't deny the attention to detail is amazing.
Incorrect.
The video is a little dark (the gamma, not the content)
That is true, can't see shit :(
I followed the color setup on launch but I agree the gamma is a little low. I just got used to it though, since i like to push horror games a liiiiittle into that exta notch of darkness.
@@underthemayo why did i read that liiitle with high pitched voice? WHY THO?
It almost seems like you prefer exciting, mechanically complex action games like Doom or OG God of War and this game was not designed with your tastes in mind.
I can see where you're coming from with this overwhelmingly harsh and negative review, however this game was also crossgen which does inhibit a good amount of what could have and should have been.
I first played Alien Isolation on 360, I now play on PS4.
Personally for me the performance differences are astronomically better on the PS4.
Sure, most of the game is very artificial however this game is meant to be a nostalgic love letter for Alien fans like me.
Those mini-games were heavily present in lots of PS2 games if you knew where to look.
Case in point is Run Like Hell Hunt Or Be Hunted.
Games are unfortunately forced to appeal to the casual market to even stand a chance of being successful.
I don't really blame the devs as much as I do the constant and stupidly fast failing of the consumer's braincells.
Alien Isolation is still a great horror game otherwise and manages to be something most Alien games haven't been in a long time.
@@whodatninja439 seems like you can't read comments properly lmao
I'm glad I'm not the only one who knows Run Like Hell: Hunt of be Hunted exists. I'm quite fond of that game.
@@whodatninja439 60fps on PC version is far superior, graphics, lighting, too.
He may be negative, but you need to respect that. Mainly his points are about gameplay experience. I'm sure he doesn't extremely hate the game, he's just harsh in order for it to be understandable why he's not enjoying the game as much as he should. Same with resident evil 8 - I loved re7, but I realised re8 wasn't that enjoyable as 7. Then this guy made a video about why re8 is bad, and I realised what re8 was lacking compared to re7. He seemed way more harsh, but that was only for the actual problems to come clean. Cause with good looking graphics and a cool idea, it's often hard to realise the game lost what could've made it enjoyable
Bullying cross Den didn't affect the game
Terrible review. Wow, it was so uninformed and comical that 10 minutes in I thought he was going to say “JK, this game is awesome, I got you guys!” Nope. Don’t waste your time watching this review and spend your time playing this amazing game and all of its “filler.” I’ve played this game half a dozen times at least and actually just finished it again in 2022, couldn’t get enough of it, and restarted it the day after finishing it. Even my wife who doesn’t like these types of games usually, couldnt help but watch me play through the whole thing. He’s entitled to his own opinion, but don’t let his opinion prevent you from experiencing this groundbreaking game.
Bro he literally probally thinks this shit isn't like "DOOM", "Skyrim", or "Amnesia" and says it's shit. Let's just ignore this video and forget it even exists.
It's his opinion.
I don't understand how someone who loves Alien 1 and 2 considers the lore in this game to be "boring fillers". The atmosphere and world building in this game is top notch and clearly made out of love for the first films.
I suspect that this video might be the product of an undercover IGN reviewer #5.9/10
Totally missed the point of this game. The Jack mechanism is to create tension while opening doors. Crafting the game does not pause, creating tension. The long beginning, creating tension. Missed the point completely. Very inept review.
ًWhat "Tension" exactly? I beat the game without feeling a single moment of tension opening doors with the Jack...The way I see it it's just a boring mechanic meant to make the game longer (Seeing how they spread it throughout the game).
Now if they made one good moment with it where there was a good scare, it would have been a lot better than spreading the mini-game throughout the game without much rhyme or reason if you ask me.
@@Miyakolover There are plenty of times where you have to hack or jack open doors with the alien somewhere in the area. The room with cameras and two locked doors is a good example. Died twice to rooms like that. Unfortunately, the deaths don’t put much penalty to you, except for one bit where you go a good bit without being able to save. That was an hour of pure tension and fear with every door open as I was terrified I would die and lose all that progress. If the rest of the game had been like that, that would’ve been much more scary.
@@thedoc6413 I always thought the fact that deaths didn't mean anything in the game hurt the fear factor of the Alien...Like you could just easily cheese it and it simplistic AI when you comeback at the check point.
Though my point on the hacking mechanics still stands...they really needed more variety.
@@Miyakolover they do. That’s what I was mentioning: there was really only one section where I felt like dying would be costly, but the rest of the game quickly became much less scary after I realized that reseting to a checkpoint didn’t really punish you all that much.
@@thedoc6413 I mean, the game is already pretty hard since the first time you play it you are scared AF and don't know much about the mechanics. So not getting a penalty is good to know and makes the game a bit less hard.
These live action segments were pure gold
11:26 I thought the point was to add stress to the stress you’re already feeling while dealing with the alien. That’s the point of everything being slow.
I thought this was pretty obvious 😂 who wants to solve a Rubik Cube while being hunted by an alien. The point is to add just enough tension
I had the alien get me after waiting at the station too long. Why lie about it? This whole video is pretty disingenuous at best.
I remember the alien getting me too when I assumed it was scripted not too. That was a real scare!
The first time I played this alien killed me in the station.
Idk. Sometimes it gets me and sometimes it doesn’t. Can’t just assume he lied lol.
@@oonapolla8575 I don’t think he lied. Just never happened to him.
43:06 Rip amanda's wrist.
Also. Interesting pose, kudos to the artist, i like the anime style but also nonexxagerated expression on the last piece.
So, in a nutshell, you’re playing a game with heavy story elements with stealth and survival mechanics, and are complaining about all the story, stealth, and survival mechanics...
this guy expects every game to be doom eternal..
Yes, he's playing a game with heavy story elements, stealth and survival mechanica and critiques those mechanics because they ARE undercooked and have been done better by games that have both come out before AND after this game. Gosh, I wish he had only mentioned titles with much better mechanics in this video like Prey, Thief or even Metal Gea-
Oh he did, didn't he?
@Michael S Isolation is much better compared to the likes of Amnesia. Prey, Thief, and Metal Gear all have a heavy emphasis on combat whereas in this game the combat is meant to be used as a last resort as @Agus Puig mentioned in a separate comment. It’s fine to critique genres out of your wheelhouse but you should go in without expectations and comparisons to genres that are completely different. It’d be like going to the store and buying pork and then complaining that it doesn’t taste like beef.
@Michal Litecký Sorry for the confusion, I was comparing A:I to Amnesia and saying the other three games had more emphasis on combat than A:I or Amnesia.
@Michal Litecký Don’t get me wrong, I agree with some of the points he makes here. I had the same problem with that part where you’re supposed to grab onto the ladder after the explosion and got really frustrated at it. But saying things like crafting belongs in survival games when this IS a survival game really makes it seem like he didn’t review the game based on what it is but rather on what he wanted it to be.
7:27 ripley isn't a soldier, she's a mechanic.
19:38 there's a difference between looking and seeing. the longer you look at something that's camouflaged, the more likely you are to see it.
29:42 it's almost like it's a ventilation shaft whose primary purpose is to circulate air and not for you to go on a treasure hunt in.
If you had power attacks and thrown attacks and things with the jack you'd feel less vulnerable. Your character isn't a natural combatant and that's a good thing.
Crafting makes it a choice which items you want to go for, and limits their supply. It also takes a small amount of time, which like the door opening minigames make it a tactical decision when to do so. I don't understand the hate for the security tuner minigame.
The more I watch of this, this guy just doesn't get this game at all.
He doesn't get it with every game that isnt his cup of tea he'll just falsely or over dramatically say things about the game
This review has the vibe of a music fan complaining about noise rock being too noisy.
VIbE
This comment has the vibe of an alien fan ignoring all valid critism of the game and ignoring the fact the game is super boring
@@samuelwhite0700 I have plenty of criticisms of Alien Isolation. It's flawed - but just not in (most) of the ways being described in this video, which comes off more like bait than anything resembling real critique
@@samuelwhite0700 vIbE
@@samuelwhite0700 saying the crafting is unnecessary in this game, while saying it understandable in a survival game (a:l survival horror). The first Mission implied at the first save station, that you are vulnerable at using it and then insult the mini games as stupid puzzles (never meant to be one. Even when crafting or power up generators dont stop the game. Big and huge hints to showcase the purpose of those minigames. The game even told you not to rely on maps, thats why you have the tracker. But hey, jis orientation shows how much of a moron he is. Listening to an audio while smoke from fire is everywhere and didn't see the yellow blinking ladder.
You're usually dead on but this game is amazing. They couldn't have made a better game to capture the look and feel of the original movie. I've been obsessed w/ the Alien franchise since I was a kid and I'm in my 40s now. This is the best piece of Alien based media of any kind since James Cameron's Aliens.
By far.
But don't worry, fans like me will never have to worry about a sequel because apparently too many people shared your opinion and sales were "meh".
I think the reason intention behind switches and doors requiring so many inputs and are pretty slow is to make it more tense. It makes it more risky to come out of hiding to interact with something. The failure state for not pressing the right buttons is the alien kills you. The alien not showing up for a while (which is pretty similar to the first movie), gives you a chance to get used to doing it and the time it takes, before having to do it under pressure. If you had to get accustomed to doing that while the alien was stalking you, it could be pretty frustrating, since most of the time if the alien see's you, you're dead. Also, imo whenever something requires one button press but has a lengthy animation, it makes it annoying (you know, like the sentinel batteries). Having it be more interactive makes the long animations less tedious, coz you are still somewhat in control.
I reckon crafting serves the same purpose, you have to take the time to make stuff, which means you have to make sure you are safe before you do it. The game is obviously meant to be slow and methodical. I really don't think they were trying to make it realistic. When it comes to developing systems for the game, its quite clear much more time was spent on the aliens AI. Altho when it comes to the alien, I'd say I don't really think it acts like one. It stomps about and makes loads of noise, when they are generally depicted as stealthy ambush predators.
I think they could have put more clutter and walls in front of places you cant go, but tbh I think thats a minor gripe.
Also the terminals and recordings are obviously meant to give you some idea of what was happening on the station before and during the shit hitting the fan. Its to give the idea that this used to be a place that people lived and worked. You can just quickly scroll through and ignore anything thats not a door code. They operate basically the same way as the lore pages from Doom Eternal, completely optional flavour text. If you didn't give a shit about the demon invasion, or the hell priests or night sentinels, they didn't take anything away from what a masterpiece that game was.
And if loads of them had information that just coincidentally helped you progress the area you are currently in, it'd feel really fake.
With the button bit in particular, it makes sense that bald guy tells you. If you had to go and look at the terminal, read the bit about how that door worked (which doesn't seem like something you'd put in a message to someone), and then you go back to the door and tell the guy, who's been living on the station for months maybe even years, how it works. It'd be tedious. Him just telling you, keeps you moving. Also it show's that altho he is a bit of prick, he does seem to know how stuff works, which would mean he might be good to keep around.
Concerning narrative, the game is about what happened on and getting off the station. It's Amanda's story. If it started going into all the stuff that happened to Ellen Ripley, that'd be annoying, coz, thanks I have seen the films. I know what happened to her.
I kind of feel like a lot of this is mostly just subjective reasons why you personally didn't enjoy the game, which is fine.
But, I don't think you can really say that locked doors that you need to come back to later when you have the right tool (essentially the same way every single metroidvania works), and lengthy animations for stuff is just to artificially inflate the length or to make it "seem like you are playing a game" is not really accurate.
I think Mayo is really making the game sound like bad game . It's not. While he makes some valid points, as you stated, there is too much subjectivity. I personally think the most accurate review on this game comes from Angry Joe. This IS the Alien game we had long awaited for, and just a year after the terrible Colonial Marines.
About the last part of your essay(?) I think i saw him reply to another comment saying that a lot of the "minigames" are put in places where there are no threats/minimal threats, so the arguement that they add to the tension is not applicable for about half the game (or more).
As for the thing about the lore pages, they're basically collectibles and can be read on your downtime or whenever you feel like checking it out, they alsp offer no valuable in-game information and don't have a cutscene when picking them up, so if you're not interested in the lore, just don't pick it up.
His complaint about the ship logs are that the game basically wants you to check all of them and skim through each one in case there is something you can use which, when you're bored already, would make it even more tedious since there is no certain/sure "reward" (a door code or something useful) whenever you read one
That's my own essay, apologies if it's long
Though they didn't really need to put in the locked door mechanics in the first part as there was no real threat in the in the first place. They should've introduced the mechanics later in the game when you're about to enter the Alien segments. I love Alien: Isolation, but the beginning was pretty tedious to go through.
@@alexl6644 I thought the same but I was already insulted by the first button smashing generator and thought Mayo is going to be talking about positively. I was skeptical there and thought he's just gonna complain about the boring and insultingly first areas and it gets better. After seeing the video it didn't get better and I can fully understand him. Who wants to play that? I've only seen the video about the Alien AI and thought it's a serious game only about you and the alien being dangerous all the time. Seeing how it really is, it's nothing literally nothing good and bored me so much. Also, I thought the alien would be a real danger, but I had to laugh so hard as Mayo "exploited" the AI by getting under a table or behind a table.
@@kegtuwa if those doors/generators only appeared in places where there was danger, it'd make them feel bullshit. Well imo. It'd be like someone giving you a tray of drinks to carry and then trying to kick your feet out coz fuck you.
Also it'd beg the question, if everyone is trying to lock everything down, why are some areas just completely open.
Again, like I said, it works basically the same as metroidvania. You just need to remember and come back to areas when you have the right tools to get further through them.
this is the worst take i ever seen on a game. alien isolation is a masterpiece
have u watch the full review, he speaks truth
I don’t think it can be considered a masterpiece
This was like a dragged out Cinemasins video
And no, that's not a compliment
In the first part of the game when axel is stabbed, if you smack the jack on the floor or a box, you can summon the Alien.
Dude you know you were being overly negative and pointing out things that you purposefully tried to do, i played my first run on nightmare and didnt notice most of the "ohh you cant go up here" and shit
8:02
Fun fact, if you make a bunch of noise, like smacking things with your wrench or using a noise machine, the alien actually will come out and attack you, I found this out on a repeat playthrough where I wanted to see if you actually were in danger here and apparently you are. Dunno how many people know about that though.
its a safe room as long you don't make noise, but you have to do it intentionally so i don't think you're really in danger unless you're playing suicidal
Resident Evil REmake will always be my favorite survival horror game. I respect this game for what it is but nothing can top the atmosphere of REmake and the interconnected perfection of the Spencer mansion and the lovely depressing story. But I mean Alien is perfect for survival horror as well as “The Thing” from John Carpenter
The official The Thing video game released for PS2, Xbox, and PC was a decent horror game too. Had a neat trust system that ya rarely see in games.
Genome Soldat definitely a unique piece of work
REmake1 is pretty much the closest thing to *objective* perfection in terms of survival horror.
Domenick boucher oh yeah definitely my only criticism really has to do with the weird difficulty select screen lol
When i saw the alien nest i really started thinking of The Thing. It brings the same atmosphere as Alien Isolation, except its on Antarctica
I think you're just not very good at this game dude haha
I'm a huge coward when it comes to actually playing these games but I couldn't stop playing this til I finished it. It was so good and FUN.
50:38 Wow, Doomguy is Huge. Amanda looks so small like the girl in leon the professional or the girl in the transporter.
Doomguy is huge lore wise, he stands 6'8 or 7'5 according to the lore but thats after Doom 2. Before Doom 2 he was still a huge guy 6'2 I think but that was normal big human size.
@@rinasogi9240 doom 2016 canon has him at 6'2"
Still, for him to carry a femme like that, he must be pushing Space Marine size (7'7")
His suit probably adds a bit to his height with the boosters on the feet.
@@ultmateragnarok8376 yeah, i think he's like 5'10 without the suit on. Thats still pretty tall
Did you play this game on easy? Just genuinely curious
@Tarbosaurus Very true
He complained about how the Alien couldn't see him through the window even on the Hard difficulty.
@Tarbosaurus Saying that you HAVE to play on harder difficulties to get the true horror experience is absurd. If that's the case, this game failed in the sense that it can't instill dread and tension within the player without having them bump up the difficulty.
@Tarbosaurus Missed the point. Any video game should successfully accomplish what it strives to be without having the player bump the difficulty up in order to get the ideal experience. Higher difficulties are meant to add to the experience, not make it mandatory to be selected just to have the ideal one.
@Tarbosaurus No they didn't fail because its not an objective fact that playing DOOM Eternal on Nightmare is the ideal experience. If it was, why do the lower difficulties exist then? Are they just training modes for players to prepare for Nightmare? This just comes off as tryhard bullshit, and not looking at the bigger picture of what makes certain video games great. I've never heard a game director, producer or any developer say that you need to play their game on hard difficulty to get the most out of their game.
Also, playing this game on the hardest difficulty is the best way to play it. There is practically no room for error not to mention how the alien is ruthless this time around. Also how certain features are locked in such as your console monitoring your head movements which affect gameplay AND the ability of the alien being able to hear your real life sound through a headset is anxiety inducing. There were times when I actually had to hold my breath.
I disagree about crafting being unnecessary. It forces you to choose which tools you’ll have available, and several resources are hard to come by. Like sensors.and you can only hold a certain amount of each. I like it, it’s a system that forces you to pick and choose what tools you want to invest in having.
Also the “mini games” are there to waste your time so that you’re biting your nails trying to finish it as quickly possible before you get spotted by the Alien.
Having played only on the Hardest setting and not using the guns, yeah crafting is vital... you DONT want to engage anything directly ever, not having a spare noise maker at a crucial point can make you get the tightest butt hole... hell even a single flare can be like finding gold, and the choice of using something that is rare to craft can make you sweat... will i need this latter?
Opening a door with a mini game when the Alien is only a just around a corner coming your way and you hear it getting closer literally makes me sweat. The fact this guy talks about using the guns and alot of his footage of him and the human AI has him running up to 3 of them and bashing them around the head shows he must have been playing on low difficulty...
I find it really ironic that a content creator that I watch for his Doom Eternal content is able to have such a take on a game like this without seeing parallels to all the terrible takes on Doom Eternal that you can find on RUclips. You yourself have made videos criticizing reviews of Doom Eternal from gamers who are not fans of the genre or the series and whose criticism of the game revolves around them not understanding the mechanics of the game, the DOOM dance, or wanting to be challenged by a difficult game. Yet, somehow, you make a video about Alien Isolation and do the exact same thing. You don’t seem to understand that stealth games like this are supposed to be slow and methodical and that you can’t just sprint from point A to point B and be fine. Hiding in lockers for minutes at a time? That’s an intended mechanic of this type of game, it forces you to sit there hoping you’re not found without really knowing where the threat is and when it’s safe to come out. Using weapons the entire time? The game clearly doesn't intend you to use them all that much, and even punishes you for doing so a lot of the time, by having the Alien come out and investigate when it hears gunshots. I didn't even know that you couldn't pick up the shotgun from that one corpse, because I play this game trying to not use weapons at all (other than the parts where the game explicitly forces you to use them like when you're fighting the androids in the reactor core), partly because I understand that this is a survival horror game and partly because I don't believe it would befit Amanda's character in the slightest to start killing human beings rather than trying to avoid them.
You’re not supposed to have a bunch of weapons with unlimited ammo and be able to run around and shoot everything, it’s a survival horror game. You’re supposed to hide and sneak around, if you don’t like doing that then you’re playing the wrong genre. And I know you claim that you love horror games and are therefore qualified to make a review as bad as this one, but the fact that your idea of a great stealth horror game is fucking Prey (lmao) tells me that you have no idea what a horror game is. I’m honestly shocked you don’t consider Doom a horror franchise (other than Doom 3) since you’re shooting scary demons by the weird criteria you have for what constitutes a horror game.
As for the minigames and the lack of challenge: they’re not meant to be super difficult on their own, they’re meant to be difficult when paired with the fact that you have a giant xenomorph on the prowl for you or humans wandering nearby ready to shoot at anything that moves. When you hear the alien stomping around outside the room you’re in while you’re doing a puzzle, the ten seconds it takes to solve it feel like ten minutes. Your heart rate goes up, you start freaking out, the music gets more intense, all things that contribute to the incredible atmosphere of this game. That’s what makes this game amazing, its ability to recreate the unmatched atmosphere of the original film. By the way, since you claim to be a fan of the first film, I’m surprised that you didn’t recognize that some of the minigames are directly taken from the film as an homage.
You also don’t seem to understand how a good story is told, as shown in your criticism of the logs on the terminals. A good story doesn’t tell you the whole plot and then puts you into the action, it gives slow and methodical exposition into the world you’re exploring for yourself, and as you start to think to understand it you get some plot twists and secrets revealed that change your perspective of it. The big reveal that Weyland-Utani now owns Sevastopol would be completely pointless if you found the log of Executive Ransome telling another exec that he was able to sell it to The Company at the beginning of the game.
And honestly, with the amount of condescending “lol this game takes no skill” comments you’re making, you’d think it wouldn’t take you 8 fucking hours just to get to the part where you meet Marshall Waits. That takes me what, 3 hours at most? Take the same advice you give to the people shitting on Doom Eternal and “git gud, scrub”. Or better yet, stick to talking about games that you do understand. This is clearly not a game for you
more i hear "survival horror" genre more i dislike the naming, because with or without word "stealth" it's a very different game on my opinion
Bruh he never called Prey a horror game. Also he's a fan of Silent Hill and Resident Evil, so who are you to say that he doesn't know what a horror game is lol
@@riskygirraffe3433 he've directly said "horror" as one of good moments in prey
I enjoyed the entire game. Some sections drag on like having to slowly walk out in space but thats about it.
I saw he mentioned prey and I just vomited a little
@@googlefish80 prey is not a horror game but it is a masterpiece. And I understand that comparing these two games is not fair. But are you saying prey is a bad game or what?
Y’all talk like realism is so important in this game when you are literally being hunted down but an alien and multiple androids on a spaceship.
who all? like i didn't really see people say that it's good that game is very realistic, i more heard that game is very like first movie
IKR?!
"Crafting system in survival games makes sense".
Literally the next sentence.
"In this game Its completely unnecessary "🤪
YOUR PLAYING A SURVIVAL HORROR GAME!!!!!
Resident evil crafting: this is fine
Alien isolation crafting: too much "padding"
You literally have to manage when and where you craft, like you see a blast cap you really want but your inventory is full so you have to see if it's worth crafting in this random room while the alien is trying to find you just to make inventory space to pick it up
This might aswell be Upper Echelon's DOOM Review for how nitpicky and genuinely dumb it is
I didn't think people still just cried out "lol nitpicks" when facing valid critiques of things they like, but damn if this and a hundred other comments like it here proved me wrong
@@CptnCardboard The video only has 2 valid critiques to the game, everything else is nitpicky or Mayo being dumb. The 2 critiques I mentioned being the puzzles being too simple and not being able to pick up weapons, everything else he mentions is a flawed nitpick with no proper foundations, complaining that the game doesn't show the Alien's FOV is dumb for some many reasons that it feels like something out of an IGN review, lying about how long it takes to find the alien and also lying about it's first in gameplay appearance, complaining about feeling lost, which adds to the atmosphere, is also dumb, the map is servicable and you are encouraged to find blueprints to give you more info. He complains about the gunplay in a survival horror game, a game where you are meant to not fight and can complete without firing a single shot (you can kill facehuggers with the jack). He even tries to bring Prometheus into the picture in a last ditch effort to try and shit in one of the game's highlights, this review is pathetic and full of nitpicks. Mayo doesnt bring any good points to why the stealth here is bad too, he only brought 2 good points and that's about it. Him being good in DOOM Eternal doesn't mean he is a good critic or valid for reviewing things. Specially when he is saying that great games like this are a "disgrace to gaming" and shouldn't exist.
The game is meant to make you feel alone, vulnerable and lost. Yet here we see Mayo, complaining that this isn't a generic shooter, and then we have people like you, who aren't even Alien fans trying to act high and mighty because you support the edgy doom youtuber
@@CptnCardboard he called the Xenomorphs a.i. basic and that it needed polish. When we can clearly see that he's playing on easy. You're not juking the Xenomorph on Hard like he was.
If they made a Jurassic Park(90's) game like this, or a Terminator game with the 80's aesthetic, that would be a winner.
a game like this using john carpenter's 'the thing' theme would be sick
22:34 was my favorite part. I was cracking up the whole time.
I did it for the money.
Heheheh
@@HK-07 Thanks bro and dont worry, everythings ok now thanks to all the support!
I never could answer the question "what's your favourite horror game?" Because I love way to many of them. But ever since I completed this game a couple of weeks ago I without a single doubt call this my favourite/the best horror game I ever played
Im sorry you have such a short attention span. It must be difficult for you to enjoy games
Actually, I commonly enjoy the
Sorry, I got distracted.
@@underthemayo shit....I actually laughed
I've always felt A:I has always been more about the environment and atmosphere over gameplay. I've never felt the game was difficult in any way and actively only play it on the highest difficulty with Mic plugged in, I agree its always tense and frustrating which is why I enjoy it, it's definitely a game that isn't made for anyone with no patience you have to know what you're getting yourself in for with this otherwise you will be disappointed it's slow and it won't be over in a day you gotta invest the time. The game's AI itself is really inconsistent I'll give you that but having played it maybe 4 times a lot of the issues you mention are again inconsistent such as the Alien adapting to how you play I've experienced a lot and even witnessed it crawl in the vents with me and chase me through them a few times though annoyingly like twice in my multiple playthroughs which really pisses me off because fuck is it terrifying when that happens because you think you're safe hiding from androids then BAM it drops down from one of its spawn points and you pray you have flame fuel or distance for a molotov otherwise you're boned. Idk I feel like the game is made more for die hard fans of the franchise rather than just casual fans as they wanted to try and replicate the film and the world perfectly with the philosophy that "if it couldn't be made in the 70's then we're not doing it" which is likely the explanation for the simple puzzles as games then we're simple so they had to be clunky and basic. My favourite part is actually the section with the Derelict ship, I love HR Giger, I love his art, I love that scene in the film so being there and seeing it in that clunky EVA Suit was amazing too me and in fact my only complaint with it was that I couldn't jump down into the mist with the eggs I hated being trapped on that walk way I want to see them I want to be among them like Kane was. As for the Xeno not vaulting over the beds etc again Bolaji Badejo wouldn't have been able to do it in that suit so they weren't allowing it here and I'm honestly fine with that myself all of things they kept consistent with the 70's scifi theme I love all the nods to the film and the production I love, the aesthetics, the music, the sounds I fucking love. I honestly think this game is near perfect but again that's coming from someone who's life practically revolves around the franchise, and yes I'm someone that even enjoyed Prometheus and Covenant, they are the worst in the franchise for sure but I still enjoy them
As an inexperienced gamer i found this to be a very difficult, nerve shredding yet enjoyable game but i can see how a nerveless boffin type of reviewer like this fellow would hate it (f-) yet i was so stressed trying to use the hack tools even during quiet, safe periods that they became difficult to fathom out at times. I believe the main objective for this game was to nail the atmosphere which they did perfectly causing most fans of the film to be in a state of constant dread...As ash would say "all other priorites recinded"
Wowwwwwww you really said the xenonomorph is “under programmed”. It is literally still the most sophisticated example of enemy AI in a video game 6 years after the game launched... I can deal with all of your other issues you listed but come on,, you clearly don’t know what good or bad AI actually looks like. You embarrassed yourself a lil but tbh bruv.
Perhaps you had a different experience. I've played the game through twice on hard, and the alien repeatedly acted like a moron. Not seeing me in plain sight. Unable to climb over simple obstacles. Etc. The AI in FEAR is more impressive than this, and that's 15 years old.
The alien can't climb over objects that you also can't climb over. The player and the alien have basically the same traversal properties, aside from ceiling vents and buttons/QTEs. YMMV on whether that's a design trait that you like, but it is at least fair. What's pretty damn impressive is that the alien can move almost anywhere in the game near the end of the campaign.
Re. hiding, if at least some of your body is concealed then that's usually enough to prevent enemies spotting you. If this wasn't the case, you'd have to spend a hell of a lot more time hiding in lockers, which apparently you're not a fan of.
If you're caught out in the open, there are two more factors: one, the alien has a view cone straight in front of it, so it can walk right next to you and not see you if it's looking the other way... Which is fair enough, an omniscient view is not good programming.
The other factor is another one that's done for gameplay purposes, not necessarily realism (which the video does take pains to state is a good trade-off). Enemies don't instantly spot you. Visual sense is affected by cover, light, proximity, your position in their view cone, and whether you're making any noise. The more of those factors that stack, the more likely their visual sense will be triggered - and how quickly that partial detection will become a full detection. If you're sitting quietly in the dark when the enemy spots you, you'll normally hear a sound cue that it's suspicious, which gives the player one last chance to move into better cover and evade detection. It's a design decision to improve the player experience, but in practise it can look a bit unnatural.
This was a great and absolutely hilarious video that I feel really reviews the game in about the most unfair perspective possible. I think the main thing that isn't understood or purposely overlooked is the intention of the developers and the fact that there is an audience for these types of games that focus on delivering an intense atmosphere over fleshed-out gameplay systems. This wasn't intended to be insulting or punishing in a gameplay sense and I feel like that comes through pretty clear. It's not a game for myself either as I prefer a different style of horror, but man, it's hard to see a game get slammed so hard in such a hillarious way that feels ultimately unfair. Love the content on this channel, though, no hate!
I'm glad some people who disagree can find it entertaining. That's my plan for long term.
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The reason why all those things take time with button mashes is not as a mini game, it's a way of making the tasks dangerous. They take time, they leave you exposed, snd they csn make noise. Just like using the save stations. You csn be killed doing them. It creates tension.
Yeah it's suppose to be a " ohh hurry hurry, he's coming " moment
I feel like a lot of your complaints are blown way out of proportion. That being said i dont like this game either.
Well there aren't too many people on Earth who are the type to like Alien isolation while Doom Eternal is their favorite game. Opposite ends of the spectrum
Disagree. I love plenty of slow paced games. I have no problem with the game A:I wants to be. My issue is that they did it poorly. As I said in the intro, SH is a favorite, and I liked amnesia.
Doom eternal is my second fav game of the last gen, while death stranding is my third fav. So.....
I don’t see the need for such bitter negativity considering the game we were given previously was Colonial Marines! This is atmospheric and nostalgic, the bitterness of your review has put me off your channel.
I pretty much disagree with almost all the complains you have.
Actually that part where the alien killed axle appears if you don't go immediately to the tram just wanted to point that out
Awesome to hear. Sadly, it did not happen to me. Unfortunate that they set it up that way.
@@underthemayo Unfortunate that the game punishes you for making a stupid decision?
@@devindalton4688 I wasn't punished for anything. What stupid decision? The point of the part was to get to the tram. I got in the tram when the door opened. What the hell are you talking about?
@@underthemayo Don't know if you re-read the original comment here, but he pointed out that the game makes the alien show up if you wait too long to get on the tram. You then said it's unfortunate the game is set up that way. I was pointing out that the game punishes you for making the stupid decision of waiting to get on the tram, and making a snide reference to you saying it's unfortunate that the game is set up that way for reasons I cannot discern. So in summary, you essentially said it was unfortunate that the game punishes you for making a bad decision, and I was sarcastically voicing my disagreement with that. I did not claim that you made a stupid decision, only that the game punishes those who do make a stupid decision in that moment.
@@underthemayo Also, I don't really appreciate the tone you just decided to take with me right off the bat as if I were hostile toward you. Maybe not the best look to immediately jump to, "What the hell are you talking about?" With someone who's obviously watched at least one of your videos, just sayin'. I could be a fan that you're just randomly being rude to for no particular reason.
This guy works with ign?
Lol