eBike Tuning SpeedBox 1.3 (B.Tuning) for Shimano (EP8) Installation (+E-Tube port)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @markalbrent6907
    @markalbrent6907 10 месяцев назад

    I have a Husqvarna MC7 with EP8 motor. Will this work for my bike. Right now I am limited to about 19.5 miles an hour with assist, after that I am pedalling on my own?

  • @szymonkubiak682
    @szymonkubiak682 3 месяца назад

    Hi I have Shimano EP8 E800 motor from 2024 - will Speedbox 1.3 work correctly with this motor? Is it guaranteed not to get error on the bike that leads to engine blocade?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  3 месяца назад

      Hello.
      Yes, SpeedBox 1.3 will work great. Tuning detection does not occur with these motors, you do not have to expect an error ☺
      More product information can be found here: www.speedbox-tuning.com/p/speedbox-1-3-for-shimano#1623

  • @dKingHD
    @dKingHD Год назад +1

    hi, this works for shimano EP6? Any option for the Shimano EP6 motor?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hello. We do not yet have a tuning product for this new motor. Please follow our social media 🙂

  • @siderov777
    @siderov777 5 месяцев назад

    Hi. For shimano motor E6100 which speedbox version can fit please?

  • @edsxperience6206
    @edsxperience6206 8 месяцев назад

    I have the Shimano EP801 from Polygon Collosus n8xe, is it compatible? And do you have any info about the existence of the free e-tube port? Thanks in advance

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  8 месяцев назад

      Hello.
      We do not yet have a SpeedBox for this motor. We are currently starting to work on a product for this motor. Please follow our website speedbox-tuning.com or social networks on FB or IG.🙂
      Thanks

  • @enriquerodriguez6031
    @enriquerodriguez6031 2 месяца назад

    I have the canyon torque:on cf roczen with the Shimano EP801. i would just need the standard variant correct?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  2 месяца назад +1

      Hi.
      Unfortunately, this product is not compatible.
      We are still developing and testing a new product for the EP801 engines, it will be on sale this fall.
      Thank you for your understanding.

  • @chriscraft999
    @chriscraft999 8 месяцев назад

    I have the 2022 Husky MC4 with the Shimano EP800 motor. Will the 1.3 or the 1.3B chip work on my bike?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  8 месяцев назад

      Hello. Both products are compatible. As for the name SpeedBox 1.3 B.Tuning, B. stands for Bluetooth. So the version called B.Tuning can be paired with our SpeedBox App 🙂

  • @thewalkingdadfr
    @thewalkingdadfr 6 месяцев назад

    Bonjour, je viens d’acheter un boîtier pour mon canyon Neuron:on 7 et ça ne fonctionne pas. Tout est bien branché, la lumière est activée dans le menu et rien toujours limité à 25km/h ! 😢 qu’est ce qui pourrait ne pas fonctionnent ? J’ai la revérifier plusieurs les connections tout est bien branché. Que puis je faire ? Il y avait déjà une cosse rouge d’origine sur la borne +. J’ai dévissé et mis en plus celle du speedbox est ce normal ? Merci de m’aider.

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  6 месяцев назад

      Bonjour Monsieur,
      merci de nous avoir contacté.
      Le principe comment allumer la SpeedBox est suivant:
      les lumières dans la position OFF = la SpeedBx ON
      les lumières dans la position ON = la SpeedBx OFF
      Si vous avez les lumières allumées, la SpeedBox ne va donc pas fonctionner.
      Si les lumières sont obligatoires ou vous voulez les laisser allumés, il faut brancher la fourchette rouche (=le connecteur de la SpeedBox) dans la vis du Moins (-) et la SpeedBox sera toujours activée, ensemble avec les phares.
      Cordialement, Equipe SpeedBox 🙂

  • @SpeedBoxTuning
    @SpeedBoxTuning  2 года назад

    0:00 Removing the cover
    0:25 E-Tube port explanation
    0:37 SpeedBox Installation - "Standard" variant
    1:35 SpeedBox Installation - "+"E-Tube port" variant
    3:10 Cover assembly
    3:38 Tuning control

  • @HesBack420
    @HesBack420 Год назад +2

    Struggling to get my cover back on after fitting the chip, just no room whatsoever

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +1

      Hi. Shimano doesn't really provide a lot of space to place the chip and cover the motor. But it is definitely possible, we tested it personally with our employees :-) We recommend a little patience. Take it as a challenge.

    • @HesBack420
      @HesBack420 Год назад +2

      @@SpeedBoxTuning thanks for the reply, I did eventually get it in with a few taps from the end of the screwdriver 😂… it is great btw it’s made the bike what it should be, would definitely recommend to anyone thinking of buying one

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      @@HesBack420 That is great! Thank you very much for your positive feedback and wish you many happy miles 🙂

  • @tripower67vette
    @tripower67vette 2 месяца назад

    Velotric Nomad !. Speed box available?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  2 месяца назад

      Hello. No, sorry. We only produce SpeedBox for mid hub motors, not rear. Thank you for understanding.

  • @takuuu173
    @takuuu173 Год назад

    If there is a problem with the bike and you get a warranty, can bike or motor company know if it is installed or not by looking at the log record? As far as I know, most companies don't apply the warranty if they know that they have unlocked speed limit.

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +1

      Hello. Tuning installation is always a bit on the edge. But if no error occurs while driving, no one will detect that a SpeedBox was connected to the motor during diagnostics. If you take your e-bike to a bicycle service, we recommend that you always uninstall the SpeedBox from the motor first.

    • @takuuu173
      @takuuu173 Год назад

      Thank you for your quick reply. My bike is 2022 Santa Cruz Heckler 9 with ep8, which one should I buy, the standard or the +e tube port?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      @@takuuu173 The "+E-Tube port" variant is intended for e-bikes without a free E-Tube port - usually e-bikes with one of these components:
      Satellite System ON/ OFF Switch
      Di2 (electronic gear shifting system)

    • @takuuu173
      @takuuu173 Год назад

      Thank you!

    • @UR_AUTHENTIC
      @UR_AUTHENTIC Год назад

      @@takuuu173i have the Same bike how much is the highspeed vmax???? I think the transmission is too easy in the last gear…..is the speed over 23km/h on the display is correct??? or does it show the correct results over 23 km/h????

  • @DewdDewdsson
    @DewdDewdsson Год назад

    Does the “e-tube port ” variant work even if you have a free e-tube port? Accidentally bought that one without realizing it

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hello. It doesn't matter, the product will work. Just pay attention to the correct connection and leave the E-TUBE Port connector unplugged.

  • @csocsokecskemeti8992
    @csocsokecskemeti8992 4 месяца назад

    Hallo. I have understand good. It have ep8 motor wjth and without e tube port? And speedbox with e-tube port is good for both?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  4 месяца назад +1

      Hello.
      If you have a free E-Tube port in your motor, the Standard version is for you. However, if you buy the version with the +E-Tube port, it won't cause any issues. Just leave one cable unplugged.
      www.speedbox-tuning.com/p/speedbox-1-3-for-shimano#1623

    • @csocsokecskemeti8992
      @csocsokecskemeti8992 4 месяца назад

      Allright. Only one question i have. My E bike is other as 8tnis in the video. May i dont have light turn on off. How can i turn on speedbox? Have alternatíve?
      (I have no e tube plug)
      Big thanks

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  4 месяца назад +1

      @@csocsokecskemeti8992 Hello.
      If you do not have the light button activated from the factory, you have two options: a) have the light button activated at a service center b) purchase the version www.speedbox-tuning.com/p/speedbox-1-3-b-tuning-for-shimano#1639 with Bluetooth, through which you can pair the chip with the SpeedBox App. You can then activate/deactivate the tuning directly in the app.

    • @csocsokecskemeti8992
      @csocsokecskemeti8992 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@SpeedBoxTuning i bouth standard. Today i install it. But something wrong. I got error. I do it same as a video show. Step by step. I hope i dont blocking my e bike forever

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  4 месяца назад +1

      @@csocsokecskemeti8992 Hello.
      What specific error did you encounter?
      Could you please double-check the exact type of your motor? EP8 mark can be EP800, which is good. Shimano also labels EP8 motors with the full name EP801, with which our chip is not compatible. The e-bike will not be damaged, but the chip will not work.

  • @perroquet1468
    @perroquet1468 3 месяца назад

    Est ce que la speedbox fonctionne encore aujourd’hui sur un moteur Shimano EP8 sur Hard Cross 8 Husqvarna ? MERCI

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  3 месяца назад +1

      Bonne journée.
      Oui, c'est définitivement compatible.
      Passe une bonne journée.

  • @dominika5948
    @dominika5948 7 месяцев назад

    I am pushing the Lights button but it is not doing anything the display is still on. Where is the Problem ?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  7 месяцев назад

      Hello.
      Try to check the connectors to see if they fit together perfectly. They are waterproof and need to be pushed together. Don't be afraid to use a little force.
      If the lights and display are on, the tuning is off.
      If the lights and display are off, tuning is on.
      If the tuning doesn't activate anyway, write to us at support speedbox-tuning.com or on FB, IG. Thank you.

  • @jopxispa
    @jopxispa 10 месяцев назад

    Does the lights still work with this display?STEPS SC-E5003 Display. Switch lights off and will actived the chip....

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  10 месяцев назад

      Hello. If the lights are turned off, SpeedBox is activated. The chip can be deactivated by turning on the lights. If you want to use tuning independently of the lights, do not connect the red wire during installation, like that the tuning will be always activated. If you do not have lights on your e-bike, SpeedBox 1.3 will also be activated at all times.

    • @jopxispa
      @jopxispa 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks 👌

    • @gailiusm
      @gailiusm 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@SpeedBoxTuning So on the variant without the tuning - when you double tap the lights 2x does it make lights off- chip active and if pressed again x2, lights off chip not active? Or only lights off - active, lights - on not active?

  • @christophe6847
    @christophe6847 6 месяцев назад

    Hey, I have SHIMANO cargo EP8 d12 automatic gear, does it work an which version do I need?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  6 месяцев назад

      Hello.
      Unfortunately, we do not have any products for automatic transmission.
      Thank you for your understanding.

  • @harveyzardelitepokemonkid199
    @harveyzardelitepokemonkid199 4 месяца назад

    Hello I have a Ducati tk it has the ep8 motor will this fit my bike?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  4 месяца назад

      Hello,
      First, please verify the full name of the EP8 motor. Shimano sometimes labels the EP800 motors this way, which are compatible with our chip. They also label the EP801 motors this way, with which the SpeedBox is not yet compatible.
      Thank you.

  • @HelloThere0414
    @HelloThere0414 Год назад +1

    Does this interfere with Shimano regular updates?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +1

      The presence of tuning does not interfere with updates. However, electric motors and software (firmware) are constantly evolving. For purely preventive reasons, we prefer not to perform updates unless they are necessary. Or first remove the SpeedBox from the e-bike, update the firmware and install the SpeedBox back.

    • @HelloThere0414
      @HelloThere0414 Год назад +2

      Ok. Thank you.
      So in general terms it does not interfere.
      Probably best option then is if doing an update once every 500kms just remove it..
      Also install uodates before putting the box on.
      I love the security feature of being able to keep the motor off and speed to 15km with a password. So when not using the bike keep it like this. Also I love the big screen so you can see the entire trip and motr funcyioning while biking on your phone screen. That is on the version that I can use with the Speedbox App.

  • @dannywild100
    @dannywild100 8 месяцев назад

    hey i don't have a cover to remove how do i get to the wires

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  7 месяцев назад

      Hello.
      There is always a way to get at the wires. On some types of motors, the cover is very small, but all the wires are hidden under it. If you don't know what to do, send us a question with a photo on Messenger, IG or by email info@speedbox-tuning.com

  • @Leo1stPlay
    @Leo1stPlay 2 года назад +1

    Does this work the canyon grand canyon on 7 e bike?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  2 года назад +1

      Hello. Yes, it works with Canyon ON 7 with EP8 motor. Please check, if you have one free E-Tube port and then choose the variant "Standard" or "+E-Tube port" as was explained in the video :)

  • @Loco499loco
    @Loco499loco Год назад

    It Does not work for my shimano. I have firmware 4.02 on my ep8 and it shows code w101. And it blocks my motor. I have SpeedBox 1.3 without Bluetooth.

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hello. If the W101 error occurs on the SpeedBox 1.3, the motor should not lock up. Please try to check the position of the magnet or uninstall and reinstall the SpeedBox and check that the connectors fit together correctly. Or if there is no damage to any connector. Thank you.

  • @johnelittleii4581
    @johnelittleii4581 Год назад

    Does any of you units include for wheel hub motor 750s

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hello John. Our products are only compatibile with mid motors.

  • @cosimogiannotto1338
    @cosimogiannotto1338 Год назад

    seconndo voi quale dei 2 tipi puo' essere montato sulla mia canyon Spectral:ON CF 6 ?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +1

      Buona giornata. La variante "+E-Tube port" è destinata alle biciclette elettriche senza una porta E-Tube libera, di solito biciclette elettriche con uno dei seguenti componenti:
      Satellite System ON/ OFF Switch
      un cambio elettronico Di2

  • @yanovitskysergey3258
    @yanovitskysergey3258 Год назад

    When tuning is on, does display show actual speed?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hello Sergey. No, for Shimano is not possible to display a real speed for now - only up to 23 km/h. You can see the real speed in the SpeedBox App if you order the B.Tuning version :)

  • @MTBFISHING808style
    @MTBFISHING808style Год назад

    I have an ep8 16mph speed limit i did what exactly this video shows but didnt work

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hello. 1) Can you check if you have a free E-Tube Port in your motor, please? If so, you can use the "Standard" version. If you do not have a free E-Tube Port, the "+E-Tube port" version is intended for you.
      2) The connectors must be connected really tightly so that they do not come loose when the motor is covered. Can you check this please?
      3) If you need advice, you can contact us on the chat at speedbox-tuning.com or on Facebook or Instagram. Links are in the video description.

    • @MTBFISHING808style
      @MTBFISHING808style Год назад

      I have free-e-tube port.tried it couple times still didnt work

    • @MTBFISHING808style
      @MTBFISHING808style Год назад

      I also bought the standard version which is right..

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      @@MTBFISHING808style Do you have factory activated lights? Sometimes they are not activated. If not, please disconnect the red cable fork.

    • @MTBFISHING808style
      @MTBFISHING808style Год назад

      Yes i have a factory activated lights..id try disconnect the red forks still didnt work.once i hit the 16mph it stop giving me assist

  • @thomask5006
    @thomask5006 Год назад

    Hallo, ich habe den chip eingebaut bekomme aber die Abdeckung nicht mehr rauf 😅

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hallo, Hans. Das Abdecken des Motors mit dem installierten Chip ist eine kleine Herausforderung, aber definitiv machbar. Wir empfehlen Ruhe und Geduld zu bewahren 🙂

    • @samuelibrahimovic8508
      @samuelibrahimovic8508 11 месяцев назад

      @@SpeedBoxTuninghallo SpeedBoxTuning Team, ich würd gern mal telefonischen Kundenservice haben. Würde gern ein Artikel bei ihnen kaufen, bin aber noch nicht schlüssig welches ich genau benötige.

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  11 месяцев назад

      @@samuelibrahimovic8508 Guten Tag.
      Natürlich. Hier finden Sie den Ansprechpartner für die deutsche Sprache. www.speedbox-tuning.de/kontakte 🙂

  • @jojodapogi
    @jojodapogi 2 года назад

    will it work with the Orbea Rise RS EP8 motor?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  2 года назад

      Hello. It will work with this nice e-bike. Please check, if you have a free E-Tube port.

    • @magicsork657
      @magicsork657 Год назад

      @@SpeedBoxTuning no i have shimano di2 system

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      @@magicsork657 Hello. So you can choose this one www.speedbox-tuning.com/p/speedbox-1-3-for-shimano#1623 or this one www.speedbox-tuning.com/p/speedbox-1-3-b-tuning-for-shimano#1639

  • @k3vo93
    @k3vo93 10 месяцев назад

    does this work on the ep6 motor aswell?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hello. SpeedBox 1.3 is only compatible with EP8 motors, sorry..

    • @k3vo93
      @k3vo93 10 месяцев назад

      @@SpeedBoxTuning no probs, thanks for the reply

    • @naya92
      @naya92 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@SpeedBoxTuning any news about a futur EP6 speedbox?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  5 месяцев назад

      @@naya92 Hello. We are currently developing a chip for the EP6 motor. Based on experience, we cannot predict how long the development will take. Sometimes it's 4 weeks, sometimes months. Please follow our social media or website. Thanks.

  • @CopperCityPatriot
    @CopperCityPatriot Год назад

    Ya need to install several NOTICES/WARNINGS. Doing "This," is gonna consume more battery juice. Especially if you are a heavy rider and/or lots of ascents. And doing so seems to affect the warranty, as I have sent my EP8 for servicing and I had to pay out-of-pocket! And check your state laws on e-bikes. There are power/battery restrictions. Lastly: If the motor works fine, why mess-with-it?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +1

      Hi. Battery consumption is of course higher when tuning is turned on and the highest assistance is enabled. If you want to save battery, turn on maximum power mainly on longer straights. We also recommend always uninstalling SpeedBox and clearing TRIP before visiting a bike repair shop to prevent tuning detection.

    • @Rektonator
      @Rektonator 10 месяцев назад

      same reason people tune cars: to go faster

    • @mikemike2513
      @mikemike2513 2 месяца назад

      @@SpeedBoxTuning What does it mean ''clearing TRIP"?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Месяц назад

      @@mikemike2513 Hi.
      Where did you come across the connection "clearing trip" please? Thanks ☺

  • @MountainManGuy
    @MountainManGuy Год назад +1

    I would buy this instantly if you could have it display the correct speed on the display. Why is this not possible? I'm definitely not mounting my phone to my handlebars just to view accurate speed.

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +2

      Hello. Simply put: the electronic communication in the Shimano e-bike is complexly encrypted and it is currently almost impossible to completely eavesdrop on it so that the display shows real values. For this reason, we only produce the 1st generation SpeedBox for Shimano. The B.Tuning version offers many other features and benefits like real values, speed limit settings and other riding data.

    • @MountainManGuy
      @MountainManGuy Год назад +1

      @@SpeedBoxTuning Gotcha. Unfortunately I'd rather have an accurate speedometer reading than an unrestricted bike, but I do appreciate you taking the time to reply and explaining what the limitation is!

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +1

      @@MountainManGuy Respect. If you changed your mind, you know where to find us 🙂

    • @UR_AUTHENTIC
      @UR_AUTHENTIC Год назад

      @@SpeedBoxTuningHello ich i have the 1.3B Tuning and the correct km/h (23kmh) then it shows wrong!? Why is not correct km/h Regards

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      @@UR_AUTHENTIC Hello. Some types of motors have encrypted communication and the values on the display cannot be changed.

  • @hankscorpio1953
    @hankscorpio1953 Год назад

    Does the app work on apple watch?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +1

      Hello. Not at the moment. Maybe in near future. Please follow our website or social networks.

    • @hankscorpio1953
      @hankscorpio1953 Год назад

      @@SpeedBoxTuning all good! Another question- I just got the 1.3B for an ep8 and I was wondering if the package comes with a code for downloading the app, or if it’s a seperate purchase for the app?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      @@hankscorpio1953 No way, the app is free on Google Play or the App Store. All you have to do is enter your PIN and service password. Make a note of this data somewhere and don't lose it :-)

    • @hankscorpio1953
      @hankscorpio1953 Год назад

      @@SpeedBoxTuning oh sweet, that's mad. One last q, does the light have to be connected to the bike for the light button to activate/deactivate the chip? I've removed the light from my bike but still have it if it is necessary. I figure it's not, but just checking.

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад +1

      @@hankscorpio1953 Hello, you are right. You can activate/ deactivate tuning without lights.

  • @tempotemporaire224
    @tempotemporaire224 Год назад

    With Speedbox , the warranty continues ?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hello. In general, we do not guarantee the continuation of the warranty on the e-bike. But: We recommend not to perform software updates while SpeedBox is installed. If it needs an update or a service visit, first uninstall the SpeedBox from your e-bike. Then the tuning should not be detectable and you don't have to lose the warranty.

    • @SpotlightMtka
      @SpotlightMtka 6 месяцев назад

      ​@SpeedBoxTuning Hi, is the Speedbox detectable in any way even after removal? Specifically on a Gazelle Ultimate C380?

  • @indian2003
    @indian2003 Год назад +3

    Horrible loud music.

  • @RickyG225
    @RickyG225 Год назад +3

    You do not need this, Just flash the firmware with the standard EP8 tune. Instructions on YT. Thanks guys.

    • @roadwarrior1459
      @roadwarrior1459 Год назад

      Can you send me a link please mate? I just got from a de limited kenevo to a new 160e yeti. The restricter is driving me nuts lol.

    • @samuelibrahimovic8508
      @samuelibrahimovic8508 11 месяцев назад

      @rarmandi What you mean by that

    • @thewalkingdadfr
      @thewalkingdadfr 6 месяцев назад

      Ça ne marche pas ça ! Il faut éventuellement downgrader et passer par une application payante mais beaucoup ont eu des gros problème avec ça, obligé de finir chez un revendeur Shimano pour reconfigurer le moteur. Je ne jouerais pas. Mais c’est dommage.

  • @danieltorres9815
    @danieltorres9815 Год назад

    Hi, this works for the new Shimano EP801?

    • @SpeedBoxTuning
      @SpeedBoxTuning  Год назад

      Hello. Unfortunately not 😞

    • @fake_frosti781
      @fake_frosti781 9 месяцев назад

      Hallo, habt ihr schon einen Chip für der EP801 (EP8 RS)? Lg

  • @889811
    @889811 Год назад

    Music is so annoying