Grinding Secrets that You Need to Know - Waterfall Platen

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  • Опубликовано: 17 июл 2023
  • In this Your Edge episode Matt teaches you how to grind a blade like a pro. Going over tips and tricks not only about the waterfall platen, but tons of tips along the way. This is a knife class style video. Learn how to be confident on the grinder. If you enjoy Bladesmithing then this is the video series for you! How to grind on a waterfall platen freehand from an ABS Journeyman Smith and blade maker for over 25 years Matt Stagmer.
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Комментарии • 141

  • @ThatWorks
    @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +9

    Be sure to check out Brodbeck Ironworks and their assortment of useful grinder attachments! Also let me know what Your Edge video you would like to see next!

  • @toddplessers2157
    @toddplessers2157 10 месяцев назад +8

    Also. I rarely comment on anything. However, I'd very much like to thank you, Matt, Ilya, and Chris for unknowingly mentoring me for the past few years! Specifically, Matt for giving me the confidence to grind freehand! Ilya for the historical information, the confidence to forge more and grind less. Not to mention, in order to be pretentious one must be good. I can't wait to be pretentious! And thanks Chris for your knowledge and examples that brute strength is a valuable commodity.

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      Ha! I love this comment so much! Thank you! Means a lot when people share this sort of thing.

    • @mattw7949
      @mattw7949 10 месяцев назад

      Well-said. I'm in the same boat.

  • @6Sally5
    @6Sally5 8 месяцев назад +1

    I want that blade. I’m brand new into blacksmithing and knife making…still building up or making my tools for the craft. At 71, I wish I’d started this a long time ago!😁

  • @philochristos
    @philochristos 4 месяца назад

    I'm a big fan of the waterfall platen.

  • @LarryGarfieldCrell
    @LarryGarfieldCrell 10 месяцев назад +2

    Yay, Your Edge is back!!!

  • @darrellford3279
    @darrellford3279 3 месяца назад

    Man, first time I've watched one of your videos. REALLY enjoyed it and appreciate the teaching process you use! Thank you for sharing!

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  3 месяца назад

      thank you! These are the videos we like to make the most.

  • @dansworkshop1972
    @dansworkshop1972 10 месяцев назад +1

    I want that blade. Nice work

  • @chrisroosendaal4169
    @chrisroosendaal4169 10 месяцев назад

    I learnt something thank you Mathew

  • @TheKiausai
    @TheKiausai 10 месяцев назад

    I wants taht blade! Because I want something that was made by you and Илия. You guys are the reason why inm also making blades as a hobby

  • @NagelHausForge
    @NagelHausForge 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for this video man! I recently got the waterfall attachment for my Brodbeck and I've been curious exactly how to use it to the best effect!

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Excellent! Let me know how it goes!

  • @mattw7949
    @mattw7949 10 месяцев назад

    Great video. Thanks for the sound warning. She doesn't know it, but my wife sleeping next to me is grateful.
    I would love to know what FPM you run the belt.

  • @toscanawildchef
    @toscanawildchef 8 месяцев назад

    hi Matt...im not close to your level by far....;-) but i thank you very much for your video.....your point of view for me is realistic....for me....i love watching what you and Ilia do!!! for a few years now you and Ilia are my inspiration .....Greetings from a german guy living in tuscany. Thank you both very much !!!!

  • @REDARO11
    @REDARO11 Месяц назад

    I definitely want that blade!!

  • @johnnywalker472
    @johnnywalker472 10 месяцев назад

    Just 1 Month ago, I made my first knife, under guidance though, and I handgrinded everything. And by that I mean ONLY handgrinding. There wasn't even a powertool in the workshop. I so desperatly wished for some kind of machine. It's ridiculous how annoying that was, so you must have the patience of an angel or something, considering the grinds you have shown on this channel.

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Honestly, I've spent most of my life on a grinder, so even if I'm doing something for the first time, there is no fear!

  • @LarryGarfieldCrell
    @LarryGarfieldCrell 10 месяцев назад +1

    I want that blade!

  • @hellywacki5529
    @hellywacki5529 10 месяцев назад +2

    I WANT THAT BLADE this was so educational and I've been wanting to see something more in depth about blade grinding because always love seeing you get passionate about doing it and it makes my day seeing that passion come to the forefront in everything you guys make ❤

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad I could be of help. I will try to do more. Any ideas on good grinding topics?

    • @hellywacki5529
      @hellywacki5529 10 месяцев назад

      @@ThatWorks at this moment none that I can think of but if I develop any questions or ideas you didn't cover in this one I'll send them your way buddy

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      @@hellywacki5529 please do!

  • @woar3307
    @woar3307 10 месяцев назад +1

    I want that blade - great video, I really enjoy the educational approach videos. Really helps in comparing my approach and to see where I can improve. Thank you

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching and for your comment. This is exactly what I love to hear.

  • @lastkillis100
    @lastkillis100 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade. I'm a huge fan of yall and been following for awhile now and have watched almost all of your videos, you guys are a true inspiration

  • @travisbartlett1977
    @travisbartlett1977 10 месяцев назад

    Very cool bud. Cant wait to get my attachment.

    • @travisbartlett1977
      @travisbartlett1977 10 месяцев назад

      @@ThatworksTwo Sure did. Waiting at the post office for pick up as soon as i get off work next week. Stuck on a oil platform 2 weeks at a time up in alaska

  • @rebelyell1970
    @rebelyell1970 8 месяцев назад

    Great video, thanks for sharing!

  • @jennykorth2114
    @jennykorth2114 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing 😊

  • @MASI_forging
    @MASI_forging 10 месяцев назад

    Great work dude 👍👍

  • @Yamcha27
    @Yamcha27 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love the videos on this channel the most out of all the blacksmith/knife making channels that are out there. You guys are awesome at your craft, knowledgeable, and overall just seem like good people

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      You are too kind! I would only do educational videos if it was up to me.

  • @ed.sol.crafts
    @ed.sol.crafts 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome video! Thanks so much! Super helpful!

  • @2wheelmaniacrides
    @2wheelmaniacrides 10 месяцев назад

    great content thank you this makes me comfortable getting a waterfall platten and really excited to do so

  • @TrevorHigginsDustysqueak
    @TrevorHigginsDustysqueak 10 месяцев назад

    Great video Matt. I guess I need more attachments for my grinder now. If I want that blade, I can save you some postage....

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      haha! yea man! At least it's a cheap attachment! good luck!

  • @letegor
    @letegor 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade! Thank you! That was very helpful

  • @fieryiceforge
    @fieryiceforge 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome video man. Thanks for show casing these new attachments

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      Any chance you all might put out another platen that has a smaller radius? I think it would be a good idea.

    • @fieryiceforge
      @fieryiceforge 10 месяцев назад

      @ThatWorks I don't see why not. I will see if we can make that happen.

  • @Matzerus666
    @Matzerus666 10 месяцев назад

    Awsome viedeo, love your edge. Always so much you can learn from you guys. I want that blade.

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      thank you! I also enjoy them, but they def dont "pay the bills" unfortunately. good luck!

  • @CliKnight
    @CliKnight 5 месяцев назад

    THANK YOU

  • @jasonrau9776
    @jasonrau9776 10 месяцев назад

    I WANT THAT BLADE! It will be my best friend Christmas present. Thanks for the grinding video. I have a basic 2 x 72 grinder. I would like to get more for it, but don’t know what the other attachments do.

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  8 месяцев назад

      Jason! I have selected you to win this blade! Please dm me on Instagram @mattstagmer or email me through the website ThatWorks.shop to talk more!

  • @francoiszutter253
    @francoiszutter253 8 месяцев назад

    I wil consider the whaterfall platen quickly after buying my beltgrinder

  • @sanyok7777
    @sanyok7777 10 месяцев назад

    Yes, absolutely work. Great I have as well. The only thing it’s a little too high for you and you really have to lower it for more controlling.

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Seems like I had plenty of control

  • @cthoma17
    @cthoma17 10 месяцев назад

    That’s it it’s that easy! I want that blade. Great video.

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      It really is!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 10 месяцев назад

    Really good work 👍🏻 and I'm sure it will help people out in the future with their projects

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you! I hope you are right!

    • @-RONNIE
      @-RONNIE 10 месяцев назад

      @@ThatWorks I'm sure it will & keep up the great work

  • @RandyNacol
    @RandyNacol 10 месяцев назад

    Thnx so much for the video , for the non black smith as myself i like trying to learn as much as i can . i spent a lifetime behind a jewelers bench but never got into black smithing .. thnx again Matt

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching! Hope this helped !

  • @kenkozinski6965
    @kenkozinski6965 10 месяцев назад

    very informative. "I want that blade"

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! Did you learn anything?

  • @johnhenderson466
    @johnhenderson466 10 месяцев назад

    I would love to have one of your blades.

  • @410forge7
    @410forge7 8 месяцев назад

    Two thumbs up

  • @jasonsworldnow
    @jasonsworldnow 10 месяцев назад

    good video

  • @seanbrondstetter2987
    @seanbrondstetter2987 10 месяцев назад

    i want that blade ... definitely definitely want that blade

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      good luck! Maybe I should do these more often! Didnt think that many people would want it.

  • @Anderson-HandForged
    @Anderson-HandForged 8 месяцев назад

    I WANT THAT BLADE!!! great video Matt i bought a waterfall platen after watching this for my OBM grinder works well eventually im gonna get a brodbeck grinder thanks for sharing your style of grinding ., may i ask where do you get the thin grinding wheels you use in other videos? cant find them anywhere appreciate it Mark CRAP i forgot to use promo code would have saved like $50😡😡🤬🤬🤬

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 10 месяцев назад +1

    I want that blade.

  • @alextopfer1068
    @alextopfer1068 10 месяцев назад

    Interesting. I definitely had your initial reaction to them but maybe it's worth looking at one

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Yea! They arent for everyone, but it's going to be the new norm in a couple of years anyway.

    • @alextopfer1068
      @alextopfer1068 10 месяцев назад

      @@ThatWorks Yeah. As someone who does this as a hobby/art practice I'm glad i don't have to keep up with all of it

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 10 месяцев назад

    My plunges are.... mediocre. So, glad you did this video. ☺️

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      it will up your game right away! I promise!

  • @nickminderman7380
    @nickminderman7380 8 месяцев назад

    I was literally looking for a waterfall platen today and trying to see if this one will work on my black fox 1 2x72

  • @Aleph-Noll
    @Aleph-Noll 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade! haha

  • @dropzone01
    @dropzone01 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade!!! 🗡

  • @LoveShaysloco
    @LoveShaysloco 10 месяцев назад

    at first i didnt know what you were talking about till you showed it on the knife

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Yea, they arent common yet. I bet in a about 5 years it will become standard.

  • @felldir
    @felldir 10 месяцев назад

    I wan't that blade. Looks pretty awesome so far.

  • @michelschuler2443
    @michelschuler2443 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade 😄

  • @sicherlichnicht5759
    @sicherlichnicht5759 10 месяцев назад

    i want that blade!

  • @ricoaioa
    @ricoaioa 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade 😎

  • @markgordon4368
    @markgordon4368 10 месяцев назад

    It's interesting how many different types of wheels and platerns you need, you would really need to run a production line where you would be saving time changing wheels etc in the the process 😉

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      Having multiple grinders is def a plus!

  • @eetukuru787
    @eetukuru787 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade!
    ... not gonna get it, but I want it 😅

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      You have as good of a chance as anyone. I will do the old fashioned names in what drawing in one week!

  • @samdahlandsonsforge
    @samdahlandsonsforge 8 месяцев назад

    Are the platen plunges made in carbide or traditional steel? I have seen some attachments made out of carbide and I can already tell from small experience that it was a mistake to not purchase that upgrade. My platens and guards already have wear lines in them from work.

  • @Rapunzelfunzel
    @Rapunzelfunzel 4 месяца назад

    Hi Matt. I also wor with a waterfall platen. But I have a problem. My waterfall platen gets extremely hot in a short time. Is that the case with you too?

  • @LarryGarfieldCrell
    @LarryGarfieldCrell 10 месяцев назад +1

    Matt, would a waterfall platen also help to keep the line between the bevel and the flat top area straight? That's an area I still struggle with. I'm wondering if being able to grind the whole length of the blade at once would help make that straighter/cleaner, in addition to the plunge benefits.

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes I certainly can be used that way.

  • @blacksmith192
    @blacksmith192 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade 😉

  • @hmingthanacolney2974
    @hmingthanacolney2974 8 месяцев назад

    is it compatible with a slanting plunge line?

  • @McHaven07
    @McHaven07 10 месяцев назад

    perhaps an explanation of what a platen is next time? i started to understand by context, but at the beginning of the video i was quite lost.

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Sorry. Yea this is a 102 style video. Perhaps I should have started with 101

  • @ed.sol.crafts
    @ed.sol.crafts 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade please!

  • @beaudoty3465
    @beaudoty3465 8 месяцев назад

    Please forge Dyrnwyn from the Disney version of The Black Cauldron and make it out of damascus steel and make the scabbard and The Black Cauldron itself to go with it.

  • @broskeg2692
    @broskeg2692 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade

  • @Junoevents
    @Junoevents 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade..!

    • @Junoevents
      @Junoevents 10 месяцев назад

      @@ThatworksTwo I don't have a forge so this would be the perfect opportunity for me to practice building a handle and finishing the blade. Also it would be an honour to own something that both you and Ilya have laid hands on.

    • @Junoevents
      @Junoevents 10 месяцев назад

      @@ThatworksTwo :) Fingers crossed

  • @andrewneilson227
    @andrewneilson227 10 месяцев назад

    I think a big key for safety is to deliberately come onto the platen with the tip slightly up and then drop it to the belt once the plunge is on the waterfall. If you lose focus and accidentally come in even slightly tip down, you could get a knife to the chest. At least it would be the handle… I say this because I’m 100% sure I’d make that mistake at some point (ok I see you covered it at the end)

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      I mean yea, but also using a warn 400g ive never even been able to get the point to catch and toss the blade. Im sure if I stabbed it, it would. Id be nervous with some cheap sanding belts with overlapping joints too. I should have mentioned that.

    • @kenh8979
      @kenh8979 4 месяца назад

      I use the platen with grinder running in reverse so the blade is pulled away from me. It just seems to work better for me

  • @GibClark
    @GibClark 8 месяцев назад

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Musashiblede
    @Musashiblede 10 месяцев назад

    👍👍👍👍

  • @davidlargen6945
    @davidlargen6945 10 месяцев назад

    Are you and the Slavic smith not working together anymore?

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад

      WHy do you ask that?

  • @toddplessers2157
    @toddplessers2157 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade! Please.

  • @chrislindsey5877
    @chrislindsey5877 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'd like that blade!! It would be an honor to have one of y'all's knives! I wish I could afford to buy one 😕

  • @furianozaurus6457
    @furianozaurus6457 10 месяцев назад

    “I want that blade” |--•

  • @lietz13
    @lietz13 10 месяцев назад +9

    one big secret that they don't want you to know is to always wear eye protection

    • @fieryiceforge
      @fieryiceforge 10 месяцев назад

      You should always protect your eyes and your lungs

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +7

      I mean...I did for most of it. Had to give the people something to complain about!

    • @noneyabidness9644
      @noneyabidness9644 10 месяцев назад +2

    • @timjohle8876
      @timjohle8876 10 месяцев назад

      I hate it when a belt blows apart on a vertical platten. Scares the sheit off it’s me. I’d really hate to know what would happen if be blew apart on the waterfall platten. I really hope nobody gets hurt if the tip of the knife come back to n ya. Be safe. Great info on this WF platten.

    • @fieryiceforge
      @fieryiceforge 10 месяцев назад +1

      @timjohle8876 Matt did not discuss tensioning the belt in video. But it should only have a light tensioning and light pressure used on a slow setting. You should have both hands on the knife at all times as well. Should a belt split, in theory you should be able to pull the knife away from the machine. But indeed it is important to be as safe as possible when using a belt grinder in general.

  • @PhoutianPhill
    @PhoutianPhill 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sword of Aeons: Fable the Lost Chapters

  • @Edgar6ooo
    @Edgar6ooo 8 месяцев назад

    Still looks dangerous. I guess in time I’d get used to it

  • @daniellewis5413
    @daniellewis5413 10 месяцев назад

    😊

  • @Trandhal
    @Trandhal 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade!

  • @Rapunzelfunzel
    @Rapunzelfunzel 4 месяца назад

    Hi Matt. I also wor with a waterfall platen. But I have a problem. My waterfall platen gets extremely hot in a short time. Is that the case with you too?

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  4 месяца назад +1

      A. Run it slow. B. Brodbeck sells a water mister

  • @2wheelmaniacrides
    @2wheelmaniacrides 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade

  • @garrenbrooks4778
    @garrenbrooks4778 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade!

  • @wessiderider187
    @wessiderider187 10 месяцев назад +1

    I want that blade!

  • @ocoulos
    @ocoulos 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade!

    • @ThatWorks
      @ThatWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      I figured you would!

  • @zacharymiknis7356
    @zacharymiknis7356 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade!

  • @jonathannack1071
    @jonathannack1071 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade

  • @jessemichaud2408
    @jessemichaud2408 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade

  • @Yamcha27
    @Yamcha27 10 месяцев назад

    I want that blade