I was talking to Mark Woodford last year when I was playing in Turkey. He still plays with a Wilson that is around 12 x 12 and really thick strings that he gets custom-made. He can't get grommets anymore and is wondering what to do. This looks like it could be an option for him.
Has he thought about using some kind of plastic shrink tubing over the grommets to keep the grommets going? You do not need to replace the grommets after every re-string.
I play regularly with one of the guys producing these and I've actually tried it. My experience was similar. I thought the string pattern would launch balls from my heavy topspin forehand to the moon but I was able to place shots with ease.
Always interested in innovative racquets! I played a few years with Power Angle racquets that were diagonally strung. I actually really liked the string pattern, but the racquets themselves weren't that great. The first model I tried, I think it was the Power98/K, was pretty old school with a head light balance, thin beam and very flexible. I liked it, but it had no power at all (I liked the feel, but it was probably too flexible). I tried the Pro model next and sadly didn't like it at all. It had a slightly thicker beam, more squarish, boxy cross section, a bit stiffer, but also it seemed to have a more even balance. It played sluggishly and still didn't have good power either. I'd be very interesting in trying this new, Woodforde-like racquet. I was always intrigued when I first heard about the kind of racquet he played with... ;)
Now you have to go to the other extreme. Pro Kennex used to make a racket called the Micro. It had more mains and crosses than normal rackets and small string opening squares. It also used thin gauge string.
Snauwaert hi-ten 😁 mark woodforde the very successful aussie doubles player used one many years ago. Strung up with much thick gauge. Plenty of lefty slice n dice with that weird thing. Fun fact for true tennisnerds, Woodforde's serve technique had the scissor kick where snapped the back leg through at impact to land on the left foot (back leg) instead of right foot (front leg).
I would for sure love to give this one a try. I've always wanted to hit a HiTen but never managed to find one. It didn't seem like there was any extraordinary advantage to the way it played though based on what you guys were saying? More that you were surprised at how normal it felt for such a string pattern?
I'd be interested in trying it out... but now that it's been a day or so, how many hours did you guys get with it before string snapped? I feel you and your friends hit the ball harder than me so I would expect string life 2x more. How does it play at a normal tension like 50# (24kg)? Any precautions stringing it?
Intersting racket everyone was playing with confidence spin and shape from the get go I reckon more test with that there is something unique there and as far spaghetti strings concern with black ones it won't look funny
Yep, so much I am thinking about doing this idea to one of my own racquets a 15x 18 string pattern from ProKennex the aluminum Jr Ace Pro Power Contour that was a 95--96 square inch frame depending on the color era of 2001--2002 or 2003--2004.
Wouldn't the benefits of the super open string pattern be somewhat neutralized by using super thick strings at super high tension? Would be curious to see how it performs with a more standard 16g strung between 50-60 lb.
How will the frame hold up over time with that much tension on it? Won’t it deform or crack? Seems like a solution to a problem that no one has or that could be resolved with a more conventional approach.
@@Tennisnerdi used the Snauweart Hi-Ten 50 back in 1989, the head size was around 100sq inches. They were quite popular in Australia. Strung with thick Luxilon string at 93lbs.
I wonder how it would feel if the size was 95 sq in. 18x19 pattern with a 20mm beam and 65 RA. If that was an option, I would purchase such a racket because I love the Isometric shape.
Super interesting racquet! My only concern would be finding strings with a 1.8mm gauge! Or maybe I just buy clothesline wire with my normal shopping? 😂 (sorry bad joke)
As someone who always looks for more bite on less dense string patterns with my whippy forehand..... I WOULD SOOOO BE UP FOR TRYING THIS.... in a serious way too... not just for laughs.
For 60 years strings have stayed the same gauge. Patterns have been the same. Up until le last few years, every pro strung in the high 50s or 60s. Suddenly, we see string tensions in the 30s. I think changing some parameters would allow all sorts of possible combinations: why not a 2025 string pattern with 22 gauge string? Now that we have the manufacturing capabilities, I don’t see the downsides
I was talking to Mark Woodford last year when I was playing in Turkey. He still plays with a Wilson that is around 12 x 12 and really thick strings that he gets custom-made. He can't get grommets anymore and is wondering what to do. This looks like it could be an option for him.
Has he thought about using some kind of plastic shrink tubing over the grommets to keep the grommets going? You do not need to replace the grommets after every re-string.
Henrik was playing massive with that super confisent i bet it will be in his mind now
it seems people have forgotten the 14x16 Princes from not so long ago !!
I think in general a lot of people disregard or think that prince only made racquets in the 1800s.
I play a wilson steam 99s 16x15. Plays fan-freaking-tastic!!!
Absolutely I would love to give this a go! The more innovation in the tennis sector the better in my opinion!
I play regularly with one of the guys producing these and I've actually tried it. My experience was similar. I thought the string pattern would launch balls from my heavy topspin forehand to the moon but I was able to place shots with ease.
I would’ve loved to see you guys serve with it, especially kick serves.
My coach still plays with older Prince that is 14x16 i think. He would love to try this.
Always interested in innovative racquets! I played a few years with Power Angle racquets that were diagonally strung. I actually really liked the string pattern, but the racquets themselves weren't that great. The first model I tried, I think it was the Power98/K, was pretty old school with a head light balance, thin beam and very flexible. I liked it, but it had no power at all (I liked the feel, but it was probably too flexible). I tried the Pro model next and sadly didn't like it at all. It had a slightly thicker beam, more squarish, boxy cross section, a bit stiffer, but also it seemed to have a more even balance. It played sluggishly and still didn't have good power either. I'd be very interesting in trying this new, Woodforde-like racquet. I was always intrigued when I first heard about the kind of racquet he played with... ;)
would LOVE to test this. Add some more exotic frames to the bag of experience 😁😁
Now you have to go to the other extreme. Pro Kennex used to make a racket called the Micro. It had more mains and crosses than normal rackets and small string opening squares. It also used thin gauge string.
Snauwaert hi-ten 😁 mark woodforde the very successful aussie doubles player used one many years ago. Strung up with much thick gauge. Plenty of lefty slice n dice with that weird thing. Fun fact for true tennisnerds, Woodforde's serve technique had the scissor kick where snapped the back leg through at impact to land on the left foot (back leg) instead of right foot (front leg).
I would for sure love to give this one a try. I've always wanted to hit a HiTen but never managed to find one. It didn't seem like there was any extraordinary advantage to the way it played though based on what you guys were saying? More that you were surprised at how normal it felt for such a string pattern?
I'd be interested in trying it out... but now that it's been a day or so, how many hours did you guys get with it before string snapped? I feel you and your friends hit the ball harder than me so I would expect string life 2x more. How does it play at a normal tension like 50# (24kg)? Any precautions stringing it?
Seems great. I would buy a couple if they produce them.
Intersting racket everyone was playing with confidence spin and shape from the get go
I reckon more test with that there is something unique there and as far spaghetti strings concern with black ones it won't look funny
All spec look right to me. but just one minor problem... where to buy the 1.80mm string...
Mark's Wilson was a custom drill pattern with a Pro Staff shape. I would buy one.
Looks like it's straight beamed 22mm? Maybe 23? Beautiful lines n isometry. And a 325g w/ 328sw? What's not to love?
A hardware store should have that gauge size in grass trimmer string. Cheaper too!
Yep, so much I am thinking about doing this idea to one of my own racquets a 15x 18 string pattern from ProKennex the aluminum Jr Ace Pro Power Contour that was a 95--96 square inch frame depending on the color era of 2001--2002 or 2003--2004.
Wouldn't the benefits of the super open string pattern be somewhat neutralized by using super thick strings at super high tension? Would be curious to see how it performs with a more standard 16g strung between 50-60 lb.
Looks like a Phillips Moore
How will the frame hold up over time with that much tension on it? Won’t it deform or crack? Seems like a solution to a problem that no one has or that could be resolved with a more conventional approach.
I've seen Kokkinaki with this! Not in a match, but I think this is from Brisbane
Maybe it is Brisbane but Barry Phillips Moore and Thanasi have an Adelaide connection. Barry had a lot to do with Mark Woodfirde’s HiTen
try it with 20 gauge string you'll see real moonballs
The inventor was a good Aussie player years ago
How long does it take to string? 6 minutes?
Approx
Looks great honestly. Maybe good for tennis elbow.
How could it possibly be good for tennis elbow with that much tension
I wonder if this in a 95 or 98 would improve the control? Or would it just demand more control from the player?
This is my future gear! Who should I contact to buy one?
Snauweart used to make something similar many years ago
Hi-Ten yea
@@Tennisnerdi used the Snauweart Hi-Ten 50 back in 1989, the head size was around 100sq inches. They were quite popular in Australia. Strung with thick Luxilon string at 93lbs.
one of the best benefit would be stringing time. possibly under 15 minutes?
I wonder how it would feel if the size was 95 sq in. 18x19 pattern with a 20mm beam and 65 RA.
If that was an option, I would purchase such a racket because I love the Isometric shape.
Have you tried the two rackets from Carve sports??
Love from India ❣️
The All Court 100
And Adtouch 97
they are terrible at communication
@@soaren7728 I didn't get you
I have not!
@@sidd1816 carve sports customer service is rude and they do not respond
It looks like the racquet Mark Woodforde use to play with.
I would love if this was awesome cause I would be so nice to string.
so I did the math and counted Woodforde‘ s strings… it is a 12/15 pattern
Where do you get .180 strings? From a weed trimmer?
You can't. This racquet is a fail already
1.8 mm strings should be a bit hard to find
Super interesting racquet! My only concern would be finding strings with a 1.8mm gauge! Or maybe I just buy clothesline wire with my normal shopping? 😂 (sorry bad joke)
Barilla makes good 1.80 strings
Impossible to buy a 1.8mm where I live
And where I live
@@Tennisnerd What about Flex Infinity 1.50 mm(monofilament) or Ashaway SuperCut 1.65 mm(multifilament or syngut real tennis string)?
As someone who always looks for more bite on less dense string patterns with my whippy forehand..... I WOULD SOOOO BE UP FOR TRYING THIS.... in a serious way too... not just for laughs.
String jobs would be like 5 minutes long. 😂
Couldn't you use this pattern on a normal racket? Skipping some holes when stringing
holes not wholes as you made a different sounding word.
@caseysmith544 fixed... thanks
Wait wait, is that a new racket Hendrik was using? A prince pink/red racket?
Was wondering that too??
Beast 100 Ltd
Henrik hitting with the Prince Beast?
Yes
Toroline caviar?
Not here no, but that is a good one
@Tennisnerd polytour pro then I guess
I'd play with it if I could find strings and a stringer than won't think I'm mental
Impossible 😂
Who the heck makes 1.80 string
38kgssss......
Yes, I want one. Please put it to market.
That is what the company is doing, bringing back an old model of racquet that was once on the market in the 1990's to early 2000's.
I saw a pile of these for sale last year in the Southport tennis club on the Gold Coast in Australia. @@caseysmith544
Yeah but where would you get 1.80 strings 😂
Barilla sells them in grocery stores, just boil for 8 min
Home Depot
@@Tennisnerdi'd go with a no 5 in the crosses and a no 8 in the mains strung al dente
Clown racquet. If this sort of string pattern worked, everyone would have made it already. 16x19 to 18x20 is the standard for good reason.
For 60 years strings have stayed the same gauge. Patterns have been the same. Up until le last few years, every pro strung in the high 50s or 60s. Suddenly, we see string tensions in the 30s.
I think changing some parameters would allow all sorts of possible combinations: why not a 2025 string pattern with 22 gauge string? Now that we have the manufacturing capabilities, I don’t see the downsides
@davincielgin This has been tried before. All have failed.
Clown response and a clown tennis player probably. Like a 3 utr haha bum
Wrong
@@thecat4272 you mean you are a clown who can’t play tennis?