A friend & I discovered one of these stone chambers deep off a hiking trail in the backwoods behind Smuggler's Notch, VT. There were no other structures around at all and didn't seem to me like a root cellar. I feel that we were the first eyes to see this particular structure in centuries, it was very secluded.
Near where I live in CT, there’s one of these probably a quarter mile off of a trail, partially filled with water now. Interesting to think about how many there may have been!
I live in South Royalton, VT. Very near to the Calender 1 site, there is an almost unknown cave with drawings of animals said to date back some 10000 years. You will have an incredibly hard time finding any info on the web about it though. If you're interested you'll have to question the locals as to its exact location and even then it is often guarded. When it was first discovered, one of the government agencies involved it documenting the cave went and had the newspaper publish that they would be putting landmines near the entrance in order to deter people from searching for it. Of course they never actually planted mines but it does make for a hell of a story!
According to legend, the Seneca came out of the underground at the south end of Canandaigua Lake and built a stone wall around their first village of Nundawao. They’re actually not named after a Roman orator but after their original name, Assinika, which means “standing stone.”
I wanted to be a number of things growing up, including archeologist, geologist, scientist. I've never liked liars though and many who are in these fields seem to have a problem with people who like the truth. I never went into any of those fields. I still have a passion for learning and my intellect seems to have grown. Your video was great. Thank you for sharing.
I would like to point out one thing. I've read the paper that presented the graphed results of the thermoluminescence dating on the Upton Chamber, and there were two equally substantial spikes in the returns, one giving a 13th century date, the other giving a date of around 5,000 years ago. It seems subsequently, for reasons the paper doesn't really address, nor which I can ascertain otherwise, the later 13th century date you give at the beginning of the video was chosen to be "correct" and widely presented as such. However, the chamber may in fact be much, much older.
As carbon dating is useless for testing when a rock is hewn out of the Mountain; we have to go by the thickness of mold on each structure. Another way is by the accumulation of topsoil, that has accumulated above the structure.
Love this. Thanks. My favorites near me are Lincoln woods which is obvious but a secret too and a quarry near there and then Nipmuck River trail. A lot of these places are preserved for this reason but non of the info tell you that. Hidden jems are all over New England. Also Foxborough state forest has many stones effigy and monuments that are in books on the Manitoba I believe. My ancestors say many of these sites were used but were NOT built by them but nomadic tribes. Also Masons used these sites themselves and kept it all hush
Any ideas on how they moved those rocks into place? And how far did they move them? Gin Poles? A knowledge of cantalevers? I can imagine a couple of modern people building with such impossible weight's and primitive methods just to secure apples and ice. Logs and moss would be easier. Maybe? Interesting vid Mike. Thanks!
Movement depends on the stones and what size they were... likely the largest were moved in winter, on sleds/skids on ice.. And likely not far at all. Winter stonework might have kept warriors busy in the off months. Moreover, it may reflect back to the earlier ice age ancestors, and so this could be seen as holy work, in winter... I believe we may see evidence of this in Henry Knox's (or his guides'?) brilliant idea to move cannons from Saratoga to Boston in the Revolutionary era, heavy objects, on sleds in Winter. Said to be Knox's idea, contemporary or near-contemporary illustrations and engravings show Native Americans guiding the cannons on sleds...
I have photos of elongated massive peices of rock that have been stood up such that there is no way the glaciers would have left it that way. I'm talking 20 to 30 feet tall. The things look like 2 sided rock climbing walls. And their positioning is often times near a steep drop off or cliff.
You left out the stone fish trap in Swanzey, NH on the Ashuelot River. Archeologists have dated it to 2,000bce based on organic finds found adjacent to the structure. It appears to have been in use for over two thousand years or more. Robert Goodby covers the structure in detail in his new book, A Deep Presence, 13,000 Years of Native American History.
I have 100s of photos of native rock structures here in Connecticut where I live. Everything from multi ton prop boulders, dozens of split boulders, boulders/rock circles, rock caves, and other noteworthy findings. Anyone who reads this message, I would gladly discuss and/or show my photos. How they were able to move and position such large heavy rock is amazing to think about.
Good video, thanks for sharing these . I wasnt aware of the ones north of Massachusetts but im not surprised. I can only wonder how many more there are. As far as being lied to about history if that i have no doubt
On a hilltop near to the Calender 1 site, there are numerous rock piles that resemble cairns. None of the land nearby appears to have ever been plowed and so I've often wondered what the purpose of bringing all those rocks up that steep hill was. Any ideas?
In the book Manitou by James Mavor and Byron Dix, it's suggested some of these might function as sighting points for someone in the valley below, so if you were standing at a certain point, looking up for a star to rise on a certain date, the cairn might mark that spot on the ridge. They could also simply be stone prayers.
Love the mystery of these structures, but I do wish the archaeological community would revisit them with a more open mind than they have in the past. I live in the lower CT River valley, and know of a couple stone chambers visible from the road, and their proximity to old, possibly colonial era homes supports the root cellar idea. But it is hard to say the same about the more remote sites - especially combined with the probable (but not iron-clad) dating results. I also find it interesting that one of the chambers featured was collapsed. Seems to me that such a site could easily be mis-identified as an old foundation - I can think of at least two sites I've assumed were foundations along public trails in Deep River and Essex, CT.
I lived in Chichester NY for over a decade and found a plateau above the valley with stone mounds that seemed to once have entrances.. Now gravity has imploded them so the shape is somewhat flattened.. They were obviously very very old.
MegolithomaniaUK has a nice video of The Calendar 2 in South Woodstock, Vermont. Also; "{Colorado Forest Being}" has Serpentine walls, & Megolithic Dolmans of the Rockie Mountains!
Megalithic Builders were in Vermont along with the mammoth and buffalo. They built serpent walls on ridge tops that were for watching the heavens. They created stone tools embellish with their faces and the animals around them.
Yes, with varied results. Different time periods, different construction methods. Chambers were not all built at the same time, but by different people over centuries. The Stone Chamber in Upton returned some very early dates using OSL dating.
Archeology in your backyard, and you don’t realize it? But when and by whom, was it originally built??? Who used it, or modified it, and for what after that??? We are unaware that we are sitting in the middle of a mystery, many in fact!!!
Then you should visit the area just west of the Connecticut state line into New York but east of the Hudson. Small villages for temporary habitation by small individuals. Some reportedly with interesting stone cones inside. Not Indian, not human. Ask Whitley Strieber. He called them " the Iggigi" (sp?).
To store apples ? the old timers that made cider would not use apples that touched the ground, they claimed that you could taste the earth in the apples and cider. So that was not used to store apples.
A friend & I discovered one of these stone chambers deep off a hiking trail in the backwoods behind Smuggler's Notch, VT. There were no other structures around at all and didn't seem to me like a root cellar. I feel that we were the first eyes to see this particular structure in centuries, it was very secluded.
Near where I live in CT, there’s one of these probably a quarter mile off of a trail, partially filled with water now. Interesting to think about how many there may have been!
Intriguing. Wow.
Love hearing about this most accurate information. Makes alot Sense.
What a well-made, informative, and very enjoyable to watch video! Great job!!
Thank you very much!
I was thinking about Joe Citro and Antrim and then you said you knew him. Vermont is awesome.
I live in South Royalton, VT. Very near to the Calender 1 site, there is an almost unknown cave with drawings of animals said to date back some 10000 years. You will have an incredibly hard time finding any info on the web about it though. If you're interested you'll have to question the locals as to its exact location and even then it is often guarded. When it was first discovered, one of the government agencies involved it documenting the cave went and had the newspaper publish that they would be putting landmines near the entrance in order to deter people from searching for it. Of course they never actually planted mines but it does make for a hell of a story!
Similar structures in the woods behind Ludlow street in Worcester on the Leicester line in Massachusetts. We used to explore them as kids.
According to legend, the Seneca came out of the underground at the south end of Canandaigua Lake and built a stone wall around their first village of Nundawao. They’re actually not named after a Roman orator but after their original name, Assinika, which means “standing stone.”
Whoever made these really knew stone. To select and stack these is amazing. Self-supporting. Lasting for so long.
I wanted to be a number of things growing up, including archeologist, geologist, scientist. I've never liked liars though and many who are in these fields seem to have a problem with people who like the truth. I never went into any of those fields. I still have a passion for learning and my intellect seems to have grown. Your video was great. Thank you for sharing.
I would like to point out one thing. I've read the paper that presented the graphed results of the thermoluminescence dating on the Upton Chamber, and there were two equally substantial spikes in the returns, one giving a 13th century date, the other giving a date of around 5,000 years ago. It seems subsequently, for reasons the paper doesn't really address, nor which I can ascertain otherwise, the later 13th century date you give at the beginning of the video was chosen to be "correct" and widely presented as such. However, the chamber may in fact be much, much older.
As carbon dating is useless for testing when a rock is hewn out of the Mountain; we have to go by the thickness of mold on each structure. Another way is by the accumulation of topsoil, that has accumulated above the structure.
Love this. Thanks. My favorites near me are Lincoln woods which is obvious but a secret too and a quarry near there and then Nipmuck River trail. A lot of these places are preserved for this reason but non of the info tell you that. Hidden jems are all over New England. Also Foxborough state forest has many stones effigy and monuments that are in books on the Manitoba I believe. My ancestors say many of these sites were used but were NOT built by them but nomadic tribes. Also Masons used these sites themselves and kept it all hush
Any ideas on how they moved those rocks into place? And how far did they move them? Gin Poles? A knowledge of cantalevers? I can imagine a couple of modern people building with such impossible weight's and primitive methods just to secure apples and ice. Logs and moss would be easier. Maybe?
Interesting vid Mike. Thanks!
Movement depends on the stones and what size they were... likely the largest were moved in winter, on sleds/skids on ice.. And likely not far at all. Winter stonework might have kept warriors busy in the off months. Moreover, it may reflect back to the earlier ice age ancestors, and so this could be seen as holy work, in winter... I believe we may see evidence of this in Henry Knox's (or his guides'?) brilliant idea to move cannons from Saratoga to Boston in the Revolutionary era, heavy objects, on sleds in Winter. Said to be Knox's idea, contemporary or near-contemporary illustrations and engravings show Native Americans guiding the cannons on sleds...
I have photos of elongated massive peices of rock that have been stood up such that there is no way the glaciers would have left it that way. I'm talking 20 to 30 feet tall. The things look like 2 sided rock climbing walls. And their positioning is often times near a steep drop off or cliff.
There is a stone chamber in Ashfield Ma just off Briar Hill Road on the back side of D A R state park. You should ask Wayne Gardner for the location.
It would be interesting to look for tribal folklore and myths of Native Americans that may relate to these stone chambers.
There is a great deal out there. Much of this lore seems to have survived among the Naragansett.
You left out the stone fish trap in Swanzey, NH on the Ashuelot River. Archeologists have dated it to 2,000bce based on organic finds found adjacent to the structure. It appears to have been in use for over two thousand years or more. Robert Goodby covers the structure in detail in his new book, A Deep Presence, 13,000 Years of Native American History.
I have 100s of photos of native rock structures here in Connecticut where I live. Everything from multi ton prop boulders, dozens of split boulders, boulders/rock circles, rock caves, and other noteworthy findings. Anyone who reads this message, I would gladly discuss and/or show my photos. How they were able to move and position such large heavy rock is amazing to think about.
I wonder if there are any art effects hidden behind one of the rocks?
Interesting video.
Good video, thanks for sharing these . I wasnt aware of the ones north of Massachusetts but im not surprised. I can only wonder how many more there are. As far as being lied to about history if that i have no doubt
Thanks for watching!
I am from Connecticutamd we have our own prehistoric Rock caves and or tunnels as well. One is in Groton, Ct. Called Gunnybunk something like that.
On a hilltop near to the Calender 1 site, there are numerous rock piles that resemble cairns. None of the land nearby appears to have ever been plowed and so I've often wondered what the purpose of bringing all those rocks up that steep hill was. Any ideas?
In the book Manitou by James Mavor and Byron Dix, it's suggested some of these might function as sighting points for someone in the valley below, so if you were standing at a certain point, looking up for a star to rise on a certain date, the cairn might mark that spot on the ridge. They could also simply be stone prayers.
Nice work and great footage of the Celtic earth altars!
Love the mystery of these structures, but I do wish the archaeological community would revisit them with a more open mind than they have in the past. I live in the lower CT River valley, and know of a couple stone chambers visible from the road, and their proximity to old, possibly colonial era homes supports the root cellar idea. But it is hard to say the same about the more remote sites - especially combined with the probable (but not iron-clad) dating results. I also find it interesting that one of the chambers featured was collapsed. Seems to me that such a site could easily be mis-identified as an old foundation - I can think of at least two sites I've assumed were foundations along public trails in Deep River and Essex, CT.
I lived in Chichester NY for over a decade and found a plateau above the valley with stone mounds that seemed to once have entrances.. Now gravity has imploded them so the shape is somewhat flattened.. They were obviously very very old.
MegolithomaniaUK has a nice video of The Calendar 2 in South Woodstock, Vermont. Also; "{Colorado Forest Being}" has Serpentine walls, & Megolithic Dolmans of the Rockie Mountains!
Megalithic Builders were in Vermont along with the mammoth and buffalo. They built serpent walls on ridge tops that were for watching the heavens. They created stone tools embellish with their faces and the animals around them.
There are some in Connecticut
Yes. I am Connecticut! We have our own, tunnels and Caves.
Let's watch it again ..
Have any been excavated ? To see whats in the ground underneath
Yes, with varied results. Different time periods, different construction methods. Chambers were not all built at the same time, but by different people over centuries. The Stone Chamber in Upton returned some very early dates using OSL dating.
Great video
Thanks!
Archeology in your backyard, and you don’t realize it? But when and by whom, was it originally built??? Who used it, or modified it, and for what after that??? We are unaware that we are sitting in the middle of a mystery, many in fact!!!
Then you should visit the area just west of the Connecticut state line into New York but east of the Hudson. Small villages for temporary habitation by small individuals. Some reportedly with interesting stone cones inside. Not Indian, not human. Ask Whitley Strieber. He called them " the Iggigi" (sp?).
Has anyone heard of the Jaredites?
I have!
these chmbers were used for acsension descension rites.
Death rebirth rituals? Why point them toward the Pleiades? Is that the home of the gods?
@@moldvox nope the center of the universe is. Pleiades is just truck stop.
There was a cave at "profile rock" in Freetown, ma. The profile fell down and filled the cave with rocks.😢.
The archaic writing wasn't ogam.
To store apples ? the old timers that made cider would not use apples that touched the ground, they claimed that you could taste the earth in the apples and cider. So that was not used to store apples.