When you think of hip hop it is a lifestyle how you dress,talk and walk that didn't start with rappers that started with the hustlers and players rappers just took credit for it.The environment we were living in
I was the 3rd brother of 5, Doing what I had to do to survive, I'm not saying what I did was alright, Trying to get outta the ghetto was a day to day fight 🎵
JAZZ was the first hip hop culture. Louie Armstrong was rapping in a 40s movie on a Jazz Bop beat. Jazz already had everything Hip Hop have today. Swag, Slang, Art, Fashion, Rapping, W33d, Food, Dances, etc.
Hip hop started in the south, cultivated in the north, and is being preserved in the west. FBA we all family. So happy we’re all getting on code. Let’s replace math hoffa with The Dirty 3rd 😤 we set the trends 😤😤😤🫡
Remember when New York try to ban the south from doing it and we shut New York music down? Yeah they learned right then that the south dont play. New York hasn't been the same since
New York never tried to shut the south down! Two live Crew, ghetto boys, NWA, master p,cash money all got love in New York City! They did shows at the Apollo, club 2000, and the tunnel just to name a few! Vibe magazine pushed that narrative! We like good music no matter where your from! Facts 💯
@@Locococo000-j2d Afrika Bambaataa's heritage is Jamaican and Barbadian. He was born Lance Taylor in the Bronx, New York to immigrants from those countries. His mother and uncle were active in the Black liberation movement of the 1960s. Grandmaster Flash, whose real name is Joseph Saddler, is of Barbadian
Hip Hop isn't NY Culture its Black American Culture people who came from The South and ended up in NY or North and South Carolinas..... NY just happened to be the first to have cameras put in they face and Record labels.
@ANUNNAKIGOD6256 No it didn't, that's just because the RECORD LABELS were more accessible although there was other record labels elsewhere just not as popular as NY Record Labels. But it was Black American Culture Period
@@jabbad2992 Im talking abut that New York energy, that fast life, remember now it's eight million people in one city because if that was the case it would have started in the south, why go to the north .. I Iuv my people North, South, Mid West, and West cost.
@@ANUNNAKIGOD6256 crazy how the same ppl who were being racist towards the black ppl who stated hip hop are now trying to claim they started it 😂😂 Ppl really learn ALOT from they colonizers
Its not that simple, Hip hop was created in nyc by fba's using elements of our already existing culture. Yes the great migration played a huge role but there was also fba's already in nyc. Nyc's environment, social and economic issues created the perfect situation for hip hop culture and music to be born. Hip hop culture and music then spread around the country and world.
I know this much! Who helped Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 become a territory of the United States? The Buffalo soldiers during the Spanish American war!!!! 😂The FBAs!!!
Back when the majority of Puerto Rico was dark skin, the light one's are the children of the bootleggers and soldiers stationed there, it's like the black kids getting left over in Germany
Lets keep it simple…FBA created hip hop which is a culture…blacks roots is in the south and so is the music but Hip Hop is culmination of 4 things and that was combined and activated in NYC…
Thanks for the content brotha! I first heard Hip-Hop/Rap as a kid in the 80s, and it was clearly obvious that it was a product of our Black American life/culture, there wasn't any need for argument back then cause there wasn't any question 💯✅
Same here! The first song I remember hearing on the radio was Double Dutch Bus. As a child, this was so phenomenal; this new sound blew my mind! I remember how I felt when I heard it and I cannot really describe it!
FBA Soldier PVT Willie Lee Duckworth was born and raised in Georgia but was stationed in NY during segregation era in 1944. He created and is credited for the very first military marching cadence. Cadences are used in every branch in the US military and globally....just like HIP HOP spread in the US and globally. FBA is the Culture that everyone follows!
Facts! I been saying this for years! People need to look at the Stax Records documentary because they talked about how us Black Americans migrated to the north and the record sales went down so the record companies traced where Black Americans migrated to and they promoted the music there! This is how our music got to New York! Actually graffiti came from the south! Graffiti came from Blues groups! They would make posters and put them on their cars as a promotional billboard so people could come see them perform and clubs use to do the same to promote the people performing there! This was the first form of advertising! The God Father of the Blues is from Alabama and he went to NYC and brought music up there and opened up a school and taught people music! They have a statue of him in Memphis! Check out that Stax Records documentary! It's so many hidden gems in it that proves we are the creators of all genres of music and they wasn't trying to prove that! They were just talking about Stax Records but more information came out! Also a contribution is different than just joining in! A contribution is bringing something to the table that wasn't already there and they didn't do that! They simply just joined in on what we were already was doing. One more thing,the original Marti Gras was started in Alabama! A lot of the people from New Orleans are really from Alabama! Check all of this out! We have to write our own history because if we don't other people will write our history and leave us out of it! FBA'S STAND UP!💪🏿💪🏿✊🏿✊🏿🇺🇲🇺🇲
You are making up your own history. Graffiti did not come from the south in fact tagging was going on in east LA since the 1900s . Sorry to say but FBAs lack true education knowledge and information yall don't know shit about hip hop
You are right because they just did a movie about Clarissa Shields and they left her father completely out of it which was done intentionally, he was a big part of why she even became a boxer but that part of history they chose to leave out to push their feminism agenda.
All Love Fam But Blues comes from Mississippi and made its way east into Alabama and north into Memphis on up to ChicaGo. The Blues comes from the Mudd of Mississippi
Us New Yorkers know who our family members are. We are only a few generations strong up here in NYC. I come from Blue Black Grandparents born and raised in the Carolinas North and South. Those are our beginnings. Whether you're from Chicago, Florida, Texas or anywhere in the country if you're FBA your family lineage starts as proud southerners in this country. We gone represent that till it aint no more breath. FBA ALL DAY
@@beedee5369 Hell yeah, why do you think this whole argument is going on currently. FBAs in NYC created Hip-Hop as we know it and taught Ricans and Caribbean ppl from the islands. The problem that ppl are having to tell the complete truth is once they get ingratiated into our culture they have this idea that we all have the same exact influence on the culture and that's a bold faced lie. They took our style, slang and aesthetic. Do your history on the Harlem renaissance, and all that art and culture that was brought here to in the early 1900s in NYC, that's strictly FBA. That kicked the door open for all these other things to happen in Black American music and culture going forward
That’s the problem booty bandit bam didn’t make that name until 1982 that when he took luv bug starski words and so called Keith cowboy going to the army and said everything was Hip hop! Booty bandit bam started these lies flash went along even though he didn’t come around until the late 70s Pigmeat markum rapped in 68 these things can be looked Herc himself said hip hop was going on in 70-71 and stalled out in 73 with the record of suger hill gang in 78 boom hip hop took off it’s time the truth be told none of that shit can stand up to the light booty bandit bam should be taken out of the history book or if he is mentioned there needs to be a label next to his name and the truth of him should be told Herc needs to stop lying to his people stand up and do the right thing!
@7:11 exactly! The fact that he went on a media run saying it also shows he knows what he's doing. Don't forget these people have publicists and they are generally careful what they say in the media also.
Always remember the FBA family, This whole Hip hop is a Bronx/ NY creation is a Tethers argument. So they can attach themselves to something that existed before they immigrated to America. FBAs like my family in NYC don't use that silly argument. We know that Hip Hop is Black American culture. My entire family is from Mississippi and South Carolina. My uncles and aunties come from that generation in the Bronx in the early 70s and laid the foundation for what folks later call Hip Hop. They all said Hip Hop is Black Culture and the Bronx in the early 70s was majority Black folk who parents were from the south. I believe them because they were there.
Some girl said reggaeton is a culture. So they based a culture off a rhythm and music from a black people they dont like? That's like an artificial human at that point
Speaking of Black Native Americans, I am 58 years old and I remember as a child; in fact, I had to have been a toddler but I remember my grandmother showing my siblings and I an old photograph of her grandmother and other relatives. They had long, jet black hair and high cheekbones. But what stands out the most was their attire which was traditional Native American style. I remember it like it was yesterday. I also remember when my sister and I shared that with other friends in school, they didn’t believe us and talked down on us and shamed us. So eventually we stopped talking about it.
I'ma old head and I remember when Rap alot hit the scene with Raheim the Vigilante. I used to bump that shit. And he didn't sound nothing like New York. Wherever there's a population of us, the culture has there own flavor.
The most important part of this discussion is enlightening people as to what FBA stands for because most people, including Fat Joe are mistaking FBA for some online yapping group, like how black twitter is seen. No one that truly understands Hip Hop, including Fat Joe disagrees that it's Black American culture. The argument is about how much they contributed to the growth but no one disagrees with the creation and which culture it is attributed to.
When it comes to only Key inventing and creating of Hip Hop. 1. The concept of the "Merry-Go-Round," as invented by Herc, symbolizes the idea of looping or repeating breaks over and over. This technique is the first fundamental to the identity of a hip-hop DJ. To fully appreciate the significance of Herc's merry-go-round, one must understand. it was a concept that no other dj was doing before Herc, and is the concept that laid the foundation for breakdancing; without both the merry-go-round and the Breakers, hip-hop culture itself may not have emerged. 2. Flash's Quick Mix Theory represents the evolution of Herc's merry-go-round concept. What distinguishes Flash's approach is his refinement of the merry-go-round technique, integrating scratching as an instrument while manually mixing tracks simultaneously. 3. The original creator of breaking within Hip Hop, is a Puerto Rico Born Lein (Spy) Figueroa, aka "The Man with a Thousand Moves.. Born in 1963, Between 71 and 72 he created the first official Breakin moves and concept, and in 75 he stablish the CC Crew. who Herc has said to be the first Breaker that he ever seen, and every other real breaker / Bboys, from his era will confirm that, Spy have said this in some honor award challenged anybody the first Breaker/Bboys that they ever seen doing the moves. 4. Julio 204 played a pivotal role in establishing the graffiti movement in New York from 1967 to 1970 and was also Puerto Rican, Taki 189 Himself confirm that his inspiration was by seeing Julio 204 Tags all over New York, Which makes Julio 204 the Beginning of the Tagging / Graffiti movement in New York. 5. Coke La Rock himself said that, The work "Jibaro" by The Puerto Rican Felipe Luciano of the Last Poets served as an inspiration for MCing. The Last Poets were comprised of individuals from African and Caribbean backgrounds, not fba BUT Lawrence Padilla Aka (Jalal Mansur Nuriddin) WHO IS CONSIDERED Aka (The Grand Father of Rap ) He also is a Puerto Rican descent not fba.. He was a Founder member of the Last Poets a group of poets and musicians that evolved in the 1960s out of the Harlem Writers Workshop in New York City. 6. Bambaataa was instrumental in unifying the various elements of hip-hop and establishing the movement itself. Analyzing the contributions, it becomes evident that Caribbean artists were key creators and innovators of hip-hop, a statement grounded in factual evidence rather than personal opinions. Basically, when they say James Brown, or Funk, soul, Jazz, or ect, its all contributions to Hip Hop development, not hip hop creations! just like Salsa, Mambo, Bolero, plena, bomba or ect, its all contributions of developing the sound, thats all it is, because what was actually invented in Hip Hop was the merry-go-round concept, and the Quick Mix Theory concept, the rest of the art forms are rooted to ancient and medieval civilizations our civilizations just added/Contributed or revolutionized those art forms !!! Prior to Herc's introduction of the merry-go-round, all DJs were merely playlist DJs; they did not loop the breaks, Herc invented that concept, which is the first element that defined a real hip-hop DJ. which is not the same as a playlist dj, who was some who just play full songs, because if want to go to that direction Dj, Mixing, was created by the radio stations and nightclubs, and the white man created that. not fba This information is well-documented, supported by published accounts, and validated by hip-hop scholars, pioneers, and participants who were present during these pivotal events. The evidence regarding the key figures who instigated significant changes in hip-hop is indisputable and factual and not based on feelings based opinions and delusional lies !.!.!.!.!
If hip-hop was fifty- fifty like Fat Joe try to say how come it wasn't created in Puerto Rico or any Latin country? If people try to credit Cool Herc as the father of rap how come it wasn't created in Jamaica or how come it doesn't sound like Jamaican music. Saying it fifty fifty is like saying Latin music and Jamaican music was created by black Americans but Bob Marley and early Jamaicans said Jamaican music was inspired by Jamaican artists being influenced by black American music such as country, blues and Jazz artists. And all that is okay and fine wirh me. Latin music was a combination of African music by way of the Africans that was sent to South America. Afro Latin music has the melody of the African drum and other instruments that was brought to South America by the enslaved blacks.
Yes. Hip-Hop music and Culture was created by Black people yet we never had an issue welcoming other minorities till now. Why can’t we just keep Hip-Hop worldwide??? Why should it matter what race you are to be down with both Hip-Hop music and Culture today??? It just seems like the whole world wants to stay divided these days.
Have you not been paying attention to what’s been going on lately🤦🏾♀️ obviously you have not or you wouldn’t be asking this question. Sounds like tether babble🤷🏾♀️
No King black Americans was influenced by Jamaicans!! we went to the island and set up a black American community we don’t speak English no more!! our language🇯🇲 hokey hokey Hoo poo poo!!!
@darkenergy361 no sir Black American music existed before Caribbean music. All Caribbean artists say that they were influenced by Black American music I mean the ol school Caribbean artists
Stop the lies. Getting fly is ny culture. New york is the fashion capital. Harlem was the mecca for getting fly. Southerners were not hip at all. In fact, no one else was getting fly like new york, and that still stands. So, stop the lies.
If we have noticed, when it comes to Hip Hop origins, the fba specially when they are talking about the origin of rapping they will always say and used The Jubalaires 1946 song "Noah" as their ultimate primary recibo, right ? well here are so here is some of my many recibo, many songs that predate the The Jubalaires (1946) song "Noah" The Jubalaires 1946 song "Noah" 1 Harry Reser Banjo solo; Lollipops 1925 2 Piccolo Pete (Baxter) by Harry Reser’s Syncopators, vocal by Tom Stacks, recorded in NYC September 14. 1929 3 Harry Reser Everybody loves my girl 4 I am the very model of a modern major general (1879) 5 The Harry Reser band. This is the flip side of "Someone Is Losin' Susan". Vocal by Tom Stacks. Take C. Recorded April, 1926. 6 Transferred from the original 78rpm: Decca 264 - Santa Claus Is Comin’ To Town (Coots-Gillespie) by Harry Reser & his Orchestra, vocal by Tom Stacks, recorded in NYC October 24, 1934 7 The Beat Of My Heart,” this 1934 Johnny Burke-Harold Spina 8 Fanlight Fanny · George Formby 9 Formby, George: It's Turned Out Nice Again (1932-1946) 10 You Can't Blame Me For That", Imperial No. 1903 7846-6 Recorded in New York on Friday, 23rd March 1928 11 Six Jumping Jacks - Say Mister! Have You Met Rosie's Sister? Fox Trot (Charlie Harrison /Fred Rose) Vocal Chorus by Tom Stacks, Brunswick 1926 (USA) 12 Lo-do-de-o · Harry Reser 1927 Harry Reser's Six Jumping Jacks: 1926 13 Harry Reser's Syncopators - Don't Be Like That, Columbia 1928 14 My One And Only (music & lyrics George and Ira Gershwin) - Clicquot Club Eskimos (Harry Reser's Orch.), voc, Tom Stacks, Columbia 1927 15 The Village Blacksmith Owns the Village Now · Harry Reser Harry Reser: Original Recordings 1926 16 She's Got "It" · Harry Reser and His Six Jumping Jacks 17 I Scream, You Scream, We All Scream for Ice Cream! · Harry Reser's Syncopators 18 She's Got Great Ideas · Harry Reser and His Six Jumping Jacks (FULL RAPPING) 19 Collegiate Sam by Harry Raser (FULL RAPPING) Recorded in New York on September 14, 1929. Vocal by Tom Stacks 20 I Love That Girl Recorded April, 1928 21 Who's Afraid of the Big Bad wolf YESS Perfect 15827-A September 26, 1933 22 5-24-1926 Harry Reser As Seven Wild Men. Harry F. Reser (FULL RAPPING) 23 Harry Reser's Syncopators, v. Tom Stacks - Collegiate Sam (Davis /Coots), Columbia 1929 24 Mysterious Mose by Frank Auburn & his Orchestra (Harry Reser), vocal by Tom Stacks, recorded in NYC April 10, 1930 25 Harry Reser - Brunswick matrix E32377. Send for our free booklet / Six Jumping Jacks the first full rapping 3/20/1930 RAP Six Jumping Jacks - Say Mister! Have You Met Rosie's Sister? Fox Trot (Charlie Harrison /Fred Rose) Vocal Chorus by Tom Stacks, Brunswick 1926 (USA) Every one of those predates The The Jubalaires 1946 song "Noah" which means fba was copy, vulture and then claim what fba didn't create, and you want more prove fba are not the first to Rap in the English British Language, not fba language which means is not your culture...
Hip hop started in the south period. New York just gave it a name and added to it. In the 40s New York wasnt dancing like that until the people from the south started moving there or the people from New York came to the south truing to run from the cops and saw what we were doing. In some cases they had t.v. or movies and they saw it that way. You remember when New York tried to ban the south from using its own creation? Yeah the south shut New York down and told them that they dont run nothing. They are the ones who took it to the public but that culture is all of America and other groups who also came in with their own style.
They didnt put it together they just added to it. So still it was created in the south and New York just like California added their own thing to it. We love New York but New York didnt create nothing it just introduce it to the world.
I was born in the 70’s, when I went to visit my family in South Carolina and Alabama. I never saw them listening to “hip hop”. I heard a lot of gospel. Please, explain what hip hop looked like when it was created in the south? Was there graffiti on the houses? Because we had it everywhere. We definitely wasn’t dressing like the south because we have the fashion district and the dress code changed daily. And our vocabulary was extensive hence some of the greatest lyricists come out of New York. So, I’m curious when did the south create “Hip Hop.” Not the elements, because those can be found in black people all over. Receipts please.
@@joeperry2545all Black music comes out of gospel music. Basically from slavery up until fruity loops the church was the only place you could have consistent access to instruments and a culture of musicians to learn from. Every major Black American artist is no more than 1 generation from a Black church going family.
@@kingjoeblack5 I need receipts, not speculation, respectfully. Again, please clarify when, where in the south was hip hop created? I need an origin story.
@@joeperry2545 no music genre has an origin story… you gotta put the comic books down and start thinking logically. That corporate story about having some random party in the 70s where nobody knew the music, nobody knew how to dance doesn’t hold up to scrutiny at all. The truth is, New Yorkers sold the culture to the small hats and that’s how they ended up getting the cameras to come out.
I read on you tube yesterday Mexicans Jews Puerto Rican Irish and Jamaicans created hip hop and latin music influenced the creation of hip hop shit done got code red outrageous with the lies....FBA all day!!!!
When hiphop was being created they didn't say only blk people can listen to this it was open to everyone so they can express there form of the art form yeah also graffiti was out way before hiphop was created and the original writers didn't even like rap music and Africa Bambata made graffiti a element on his own without asking the original writers if it's cool that I can make it a element
This fba are saying that breakdancing didn't start in New York because some 1950s videos, well Brazilian Capoeira, Martial Arts dance, Acrobatic dances predates those "fba" videos, so i should mean fba didn't create or invent any of those moves!!
@@jabbad2992 It's not. Blacks in Texas weren't up on it in 77, 78, 79. They caught on in the 80s and they were rookies. Puerto Ricans were emceeing before any black person in Texas.
The FBA (lineage) on US soil since day 1 before America was called America. Every FBA are one with uniqueness that created every genres and dances that makes up the culture in America. FBA do not colonize locations like outsiders from FBA culture. FBA are connected with each other, and embrace each others uniqueness although we may joke at each other= FBA ARE ALL ONE! Again, FBA families are connected with we each other all over the US. You outsiders bring that crazy division. FBA ARE ONE!
People who don't know BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY or CULTURE makes stupid statements like yours online ALL THE TIME. Allow me to enlighten you, 1st H.I.P. H.O.P. is NOT a genre of music, however H.I.P. H.O.P. IS FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. Now before you rebutt with silly retort allow me to ask, HOW MUCH BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY do you know? BESIDES the racist stereotypical Eurocentric lies?
Puerto Ricans fought in every USA War including the Civil War and for every Civil Rights, also Puerto Rico has been an Associate Free State of USA since 1898, which means that Puerto Ricans are Natural Born Citizen of USA just like any fba, why, because we fought that, because is our Civil Rights just like is the right of any fba !
People who don't know BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY or CULTURE makes stupid statements like yours online ALL THE TIME. Allow me to enlighten you, 1st H.I.P. H.O.P. is NOT a genre of music, however H.I.P. H.O.P. IS FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. Now before you rebutt with silly retort allow me to ask, HOW MUCH BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY do you know? BESIDES the racist stereotypical Eurocentric lies?
@@keithfowler1674 I noticed you didn't answer my question about HOW MUCH FBA HISTORY DO YOU KNOW? But went straight to the bs even though I said in my comment you would. Now "we not talkinig about the old days" What kinda response is that? Of course the old days matter too and knowing MY FBA history allows to speak as such. You're just hatin cuz you aint FBA and you can't change the past. What FBAs do is ALWAYS etched in stone when it comes to you non-FBA hatin mkrz. So you can stop the b.s. tether!
Bro slavery was worldwide for blacks,Australia was once black,north east Africa now call Middle East was once black,New Zealand was once black,so black Americans were not the only groups that went through slavery
This is true but the difference between US slavery is Chattel Slavery was perpetual. From my understanding slavery/indentured servitude in other countries was not perpetual. However, you can correct me if I'm wrong.
We need to remain united. Understand this without Latino involvement in the early Jamz culture it would still exist. Hence without any involvement from Black youth there would be NO Jamz culture which is known today as HIP HOP !!! Everything about the HIP HOP culture was in existence before it became the Jamz culture, I hit the number I hit the number how'd ya get it over the telephone .... The Mills brothers Peg Leg Bates Sammy Davis jr Jocko Henderson Bootsy etc. EOTD its a Black THANG !!! PS Disco King Mario and John Browne and DJ Hollywood were early Participants in the culture ! John Browne who played at the Plaza Tunnel is believed to have inspired Herc ..... Hence JB is probably the biggest reason the Jamz culture started as like Cholly Rock says its something that started from the Black Spade Culture.
Dor all the ppl in the comments from the south, hip hop not rap but hip hop statted in NYC. Influence is not invention, cut it out. Damn, u have jazz and country, and gospel. Leave gogo (dc area music) hio hop, hypy music, techno music, to the east and west coast. I dare you to say Gansta rap, gogo, texhno come from there because our ppl originated on the south, that make no sense don't start a civil war fba war online 😂 qe all fam.. im not from NYC but im from the east coast PG county MD (richest black county in the nation to be exact) where gogo come from fba culture 🇺🇸
All New York did was the same as California. They added their own spin on it and talked about their journey. All they did was introduce it to the world.
@3:45. You may wanna cut that out beloved. You see how that got Joe all hemmed up. I agree with you. I am a 70s baby out of NYC and that number was not 50%. It may have been more like 10/90 in the genesis. I agree with you but Pigmeat Markim is not Hip Hop. Those guys were not rappers. New York MC's got their style off of radio DJ's like Frankie Crocker on WWRL in NY and Jocko from Philly. They were talking that rhyme talk on the radio and they wanted to be cool like them. Also there is another factor that they have left off. Blaxpoitation HELPED create the cool the B Boys wanted to be like, and that was not regional to NYC. I am from Brooklyn from Jamaican parents and will admit we ASSUMILATED into the culture we and ADDED to it but Absolutely did not create it.
New York is and was that place like no other😂. Using these current events to once again try and take away the light from that city that blacks been setting trends in since the 20s. Just admit something different about New York
Absolutely nothing is special about New York. The southern blacks are the top dog in music sports and entertainment and fashion. Tell us what New York has that makes it special?
Only? Who else would we be talking about? We’re Black Americans.. all our ancestors were from this land.. just like Caribbean and Latinos ancestors were from their countries.. get it?
@@Lord3sixty ok but what does that have to do with anything? We’re not the same .. with what little slaves that were brought here to North America we are far removed from anything else outside of our country.. FBA’s are not Caribbean or Africans cmon dawg.
Bro said Columbus but us puerto ricans really the last people with the blood from the people who fought Columbus...shit im 30 % native taino from the original people of the island mixed with west African black and white. One of the main ancestors of us Boricuas was in the "Americas" before whites and blacks. Way before hiphop was even an idea. Aint no issue with fba they unique bc they real american usa culture but us puerto ricans been here since before all this shit...so we not colonizing nor are we colonizers cause our homeland is the last colony...this is dead ass ...
Here's something that none of you know. RAP initially was black people exchanging information of substance to uplift and enrich the group as a whole.. What these men are doing is actually Rap.The Greeks 1000 years ago called it contemplation. It's any exchange of wisdom rationale and logic.. Now most of you disbelieve me, but I will prove it to you.There was a talk show in the 70's called Lets Rap..( google it) There was no music there was nobody rhyming what it was was prominent black people discussing social economic and educational issues in order to uplift the people.( something terrifying to White Supremacists)... I will teach my people.
@barrybarry-b5h We know our Culture where ever it is. I hustled in Puerto Rican Neighborhoods. I've worked with a bunch of Jamaicans and my people's had Jamaican plugs. THEIRS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT EARLY HIP-HOP THAT FROM ANY FOREIGN CULTURES. PERIOD. My family has been in NYS for decades before Hip-hop started. So get yo foreign @$$ outta here!!!
@@barrybarry-b5h The FBA (lineage) on US soil since day 1 before America was called America. Every FBA are one with uniqueness that created every genres and dances that makes up the culture in America. FBA do not colonize locations like outsiders from FBA culture. FBA are connected with each other, and embrace each others uniqueness although we may joke at each other= FBA ARE ALL ONE! Again, FBA families are connected with we each other all over the US. You outsiders bring that crazy division. FBA ARE ONE!
The FBA (lineage) on US soil since day 1 before America was called America. Every FBA are one with uniqueness that created every genres and dances that makes up the culture in America. FBA do not colonize locations like outsiders from FBA culture. FBA are connected with each other, and embrace each others uniqueness although we may joke at each other= FBA ARE ALL ONE! Again, FBA families are connected with we each other all over the US. You outsiders bring that crazy division. FBA ARE ONE!
People who don't know BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY or CULTURE makes stupid statements like yours online ALL THE TIME. Allow me to enlighten you, 1st H.I.P. H.O.P. is NOT a genre of music, however H.I.P. H.O.P. IS FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. Now before you rebutt with silly retort allow me to ask, HOW MUCH BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY do you know? BESIDES the racist stereotypical Eurocentric lies?
You all don't speak for all of us. Stop calling all of us "FBAs". You nor them represent me. I'm a student of Dr. Clarke, Dr. Molefi, Mr. Browder, Dr. Welsing etc. They would clown the ISH out of this joke of a "movement". We don't do gimmicks. If someone called me an FBA in real life, I'd cuss their ignorant a$$es out. All of those who claim that gimmick appear to be highly uneducated.
But you ok with Jesse Jackson calling you a African American you ain’t African Black slaves built America do Jamaicans call themselves African Jamaicans in Jamaica do Haitians call themselves African Haitians in Haiti Black slaves from America been here since the foundation of America I rather be called Foundational Black American than a African American our ancestors were left for dead by Africa go to Africa and you will see you ain’t no African that’s right FBA is the right name since we built America from its foundation
People who don't know BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY or CULTURE makes stupid statements like yours online ALL THE TIME. Allow me to enlighten you, 1st H.I.P. H.O.P. is NOT a genre of music, however H.I.P. H.O.P. IS FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. Now before you rebutt with silly retort allow me to ask, HOW MUCH BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY do you know? BESIDES the racist stereotypical Eurocentric lies?
Yall ever heard of Blowfly the Rapper? Look him up..he was from the 70's waaaaay before Too Short's Dirty Lyrics Or Luke Skywalker's Dirty Nursery Rymes...
This dude ain 💯. He just b talking. He never ever said anything enlightening. You know how people speak in a certain style to make seem like they are saying something. Dude is a clown. Always having a cup in his hands……smh. Ain talking bout nothing….he just talking.
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The blackman has awaken. Big field awaits the wide awake man.
Watts up kings, there’s no Debate At All
When you think of hip hop it is a lifestyle how you dress,talk and walk that didn't start with rappers that started with the hustlers and players rappers just took credit for it.The environment we were living in
Bobby Womack Across 110th street was really a rap song dropped in 72 he from the Midwest
Brother people would never understand what you saying
Classic song...my Grandma played it alot"110th Street"
You went and grabbed A CLASSIC 💯💯💯
Curtis Mayfield Pusherman was a rap song too
I was the 3rd brother of 5, Doing what I had to do to survive, I'm not saying what I did was alright, Trying to get outta the ghetto was a day to day fight 🎵
Peace to you'll brothers. Keep spitting facts!!!
JAZZ was the first hip hop culture. Louie Armstrong was rapping in a 40s movie on a Jazz Bop beat. Jazz already had everything Hip Hop have today. Swag, Slang, Art, Fashion, Rapping, W33d, Food, Dances, etc.
You’re Not FBA 🤡. Speak on your village dude..
@adosinventedcountryrockhip6583 is that all? Come on, you can do better than that, I know you got more trolling in you....No Pause!!!
Hip hop started in the south, cultivated in the north, and is being preserved in the west. FBA we all family. So happy we’re all getting on code. Let’s replace math hoffa with The Dirty 3rd 😤 we set the trends 😤😤😤🫡
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Remember when New York try to ban the south from doing it and we shut New York music down? Yeah they learned right then that the south dont play. New York hasn't been the same since
@@snakemanjones8272 no i don’t remember that
hiphop has its roots in the south . but bronx culture along with bronx gang culture started hip hop .
New York never tried to shut the south down! Two live Crew, ghetto boys, NWA, master p,cash money all got love in New York City! They did shows at the Apollo, club 2000, and the tunnel just to name a few! Vibe magazine pushed that narrative! We like good music no matter where your from! Facts 💯
In this order of hip hop: 1) FBA creators 2) Jamaicans -1st students 3) Puerto Ricans-2nd students
It's not just Jamaicans genius, Bambaata, Flash are not Jamaican
@@Locococo000-j2d
Afrika Bambaataa's heritage is Jamaican and Barbadian. He was born Lance Taylor in the Bronx, New York to immigrants from those countries. His mother and uncle were active in the Black liberation movement of the 1960s.
Grandmaster Flash, whose real name is Joseph Saddler, is of Barbadian
@@coleyounger6498 correct, just trying to make a point
Hip Hop isn't NY Culture its Black American Culture people who came from The South and ended up in NY or North and South Carolinas..... NY just happened to be the first to have cameras put in they face and Record labels.
@jabbad2992 True ... But they had to come to that New York environment to get started ...
@ANUNNAKIGOD6256 No it didn't, that's just because the RECORD LABELS were more accessible although there was other record labels elsewhere just not as popular as NY Record Labels. But it was Black American Culture Period
@@jabbad2992 Im talking abut that New York energy, that fast life, remember now it's eight million people in one city because if that was the case it would have started in the south, why go to the north .. I Iuv my people North, South, Mid West, and West cost.
@@ANUNNAKIGOD6256 crazy how the same ppl who were being racist towards the black ppl who stated hip hop are now trying to claim they started it 😂😂 Ppl really learn ALOT from they colonizers
Its not that simple, Hip hop was created in nyc by fba's using elements of our already existing culture. Yes the great migration played a huge role but there was also fba's already in nyc. Nyc's environment, social and economic issues created the perfect situation for hip hop culture and music to be born. Hip hop culture and music then spread around the country and world.
Curtis Mayfield Pusherman 1972
@o.g.teerock1696 ✊🏾How you know I've got that on repeat in my playlist. 💃🏾✌🏾
Fact
Stand up blk America. It's time. 💪🏿✊🏿💪🏿
You're scared of Wyts
I know this much! Who helped Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 become a territory of the United States? The Buffalo soldiers during the Spanish American war!!!! 😂The FBAs!!!
Back when the majority of Puerto Rico was dark skin, the light one's are the children of the bootleggers and soldiers stationed there, it's like the black kids getting left over in Germany
As a New Yorker I really appreciated the honesty and points of view about the culture.
Lets keep it simple…FBA created hip hop which is a culture…blacks roots is in the south and so is the music but Hip Hop is culmination of 4 things and that was combined and activated in NYC…
Facts
Joe canceled for saying 50/50 bs
And Hoffa
The most important ingredient in Hip-Hop is and was the music period.
We from the south, we had it jumping back in the early 1900s
Thanks for the content brotha! I first heard Hip-Hop/Rap as a kid in the 80s, and it was clearly obvious that it was a product of our Black American life/culture, there wasn't any need for argument back then cause there wasn't any question 💯✅
Same here! The first song I remember hearing on the radio was Double Dutch Bus. As a child, this was so phenomenal; this new sound blew my mind! I remember how I felt when I heard it and I cannot really describe it!
Great video shout out my guy Big Ant salute to our people
FBA Soldier PVT Willie Lee Duckworth was born and raised in Georgia but was stationed in NY during segregation era in 1944. He created and is credited for the very first military marching cadence. Cadences are used in every branch in the US military and globally....just like HIP HOP spread in the US and globally. FBA is the Culture that everyone follows!
@@DJBigs Thank you for the information brotha ⭐
Its video on RUclips RIGHT NOW of Sammy Davis Jr & Will Matson showing off & what people call today is break dancing.
Facts! I been saying this for years! People need to look at the Stax Records documentary because they talked about how us Black Americans migrated to the north and the record sales went down so the record companies traced where Black Americans migrated to and they promoted the music there! This is how our music got to New York! Actually graffiti came from the south! Graffiti came from Blues groups! They would make posters and put them on their cars as a promotional billboard so people could come see them perform and clubs use to do the same to promote the people performing there! This was the first form of advertising! The God Father of the Blues is from Alabama and he went to NYC and brought music up there and opened up a school and taught people music! They have a statue of him in Memphis! Check out that Stax Records documentary! It's so many hidden gems in it that proves we are the creators of all genres of music and they wasn't trying to prove that! They were just talking about Stax Records but more information came out! Also a contribution is different than just joining in! A contribution is bringing something to the table that wasn't already there and they didn't do that! They simply just joined in on what we were already was doing. One more thing,the original Marti Gras was started in Alabama! A lot of the people from New Orleans are really from Alabama! Check all of this out! We have to write our own history because if we don't other people will write our history and leave us out of it! FBA'S STAND UP!💪🏿💪🏿✊🏿✊🏿🇺🇲🇺🇲
Is that the documentary series that’s on HBO Max?
You are making up your own history. Graffiti did not come from the south in fact tagging was going on in east LA since the 1900s . Sorry to say but FBAs lack true education knowledge and information yall don't know shit about hip hop
Great information. Thank you🙏🏾
You are right because they just did a movie about Clarissa Shields and they left her father completely out of it which was done intentionally, he was a big part of why she even became a boxer but that part of history they chose to leave out to push their feminism agenda.
All Love Fam But Blues comes from Mississippi and made its way east into Alabama and north into Memphis on up to ChicaGo. The Blues comes from the Mudd of Mississippi
Great show guys!
Great topic🔥😎
Us New Yorkers know who our family members are. We are only a few generations strong up here in NYC. I come from Blue Black Grandparents born and raised in the Carolinas North and South. Those are our beginnings. Whether you're from Chicago, Florida, Texas or anywhere in the country if you're FBA your family lineage starts as proud southerners in this country. We gone represent that till it aint no more breath. FBA ALL DAY
Real spill
Is there a lot of fba in ny
@@beedee5369 Hell yeah, why do you think this whole argument is going on currently. FBAs in NYC created Hip-Hop as we know it and taught Ricans and Caribbean ppl from the islands. The problem that ppl are having to tell the complete truth is once they get ingratiated into our culture they have this idea that we all have the same exact influence on the culture and that's a bold faced lie. They took our style, slang and aesthetic. Do your history on the Harlem renaissance, and all that art and culture that was brought here to in the early 1900s in NYC, that's strictly FBA. That kicked the door open for all these other things to happen in Black American music and culture going forward
@@beedee5369 New York Swag is gone because Most FBA left the City New York today is corny now
Great Content 💯
Thanks 💯
New York was the main hub of hip hop, but it's definitely wasn't invented there.
That’s the problem booty bandit bam didn’t make that name until 1982 that when he took luv bug starski words and so called Keith cowboy going to the army and said everything was Hip hop! Booty bandit bam started these lies flash went along even though he didn’t come around until the late 70s Pigmeat markum rapped in 68 these things can be looked Herc himself said hip hop was going on in 70-71 and stalled out in 73 with the record of suger hill gang in 78 boom hip hop took off it’s time the truth be told none of that shit can stand up to the light booty bandit bam should be taken out of the history book or if he is mentioned there needs to be a label next to his name and the truth of him should be told Herc needs to stop lying to his people stand up and do the right thing!
@7:11 exactly! The fact that he went on a media run saying it also shows he knows what he's doing. Don't forget these people have publicists and they are generally careful what they say in the media also.
Facts!!! Hip hop is all FBA sections blended, but we gather around the roots!!!
Always remember the FBA family, This whole Hip hop is a Bronx/ NY creation is a Tethers argument. So they can attach themselves to something that existed before they immigrated to America.
FBAs like my family in NYC don't use that silly argument. We know that Hip Hop is Black American culture. My entire family is from Mississippi and South Carolina. My uncles and aunties come from that generation in the Bronx in the early 70s and laid the foundation for what folks later call Hip Hop. They all said Hip Hop is Black Culture and the Bronx in the early 70s was majority Black folk who parents were from the south.
I believe them because they were there.
Thank you Brothas. FBA 4 life
We are one, no matter what we do, we are one, DC FBA. Much Love❤
Big Ant the Spokesman 💪🏾
Some girl said reggaeton is a culture. So they based a culture off a rhythm and music from a black people they dont like? That's like an artificial human at that point
Speaking of Black Native Americans, I am 58 years old and I remember as a child; in fact, I had to have been a toddler but I remember my grandmother showing my siblings and I an old photograph of her grandmother and other relatives. They had long, jet black hair and high cheekbones. But what stands out the most was their attire which was traditional Native American style. I remember it like it was yesterday. I also remember when my sister and I shared that with other friends in school, they didn’t believe us and talked down on us and shamed us. So eventually we stopped talking about it.
I'ma old head and I remember when Rap alot hit the scene with Raheim the Vigilante. I used to bump that shit. And he didn't sound nothing like New York. Wherever there's a population of us, the culture has there own flavor.
Thank you! Well said 👏 👏
Dope build. All facts.
Great job gentlemen
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Cab Collaway Started Break Dancing with Skatt Dancing in Harlem Look it up it started in New York Down south Midwest and All over
Here is 1 for everyone. Let's just go on the hip hop records alone, gather all your rap records, and let's see the 50/50 come to light.
Dolomite sounds like a battle rapper
The most important part of this discussion is enlightening people as to what FBA stands for because most people, including Fat Joe are mistaking FBA for some online yapping group, like how black twitter is seen. No one that truly understands Hip Hop, including Fat Joe disagrees that it's Black American culture. The argument is about how much they contributed to the growth but no one disagrees with the creation and which culture it is attributed to.
When it comes to only Key inventing and creating of Hip Hop.
1. The concept of the "Merry-Go-Round," as invented by Herc, symbolizes the idea of looping or repeating breaks over and over. This technique is the first fundamental to the identity of a hip-hop DJ. To fully appreciate the significance of Herc's merry-go-round, one must understand. it was a concept that no other dj was doing before Herc, and is the concept that laid the foundation for breakdancing; without both the merry-go-round and the Breakers, hip-hop culture itself may not have emerged.
2. Flash's Quick Mix Theory represents the evolution of Herc's merry-go-round concept. What distinguishes Flash's approach is his refinement of the merry-go-round technique, integrating scratching as an instrument while manually mixing tracks simultaneously.
3. The original creator of breaking within Hip Hop, is a Puerto Rico Born Lein (Spy) Figueroa, aka "The Man with a Thousand Moves.. Born in 1963, Between 71 and 72 he created the first official Breakin moves and concept, and in 75 he stablish the CC Crew.
who Herc has said to be the first Breaker that he ever seen, and every other real breaker / Bboys, from his era will confirm that, Spy have said this in some honor award challenged anybody the first Breaker/Bboys that they ever seen doing the moves.
4. Julio 204 played a pivotal role in establishing the graffiti movement in New York from 1967 to 1970 and was also Puerto Rican, Taki 189 Himself confirm that his inspiration was by seeing Julio 204 Tags all over New York, Which makes Julio 204 the Beginning of the Tagging / Graffiti movement in New York.
5. Coke La Rock himself said that, The work "Jibaro" by The Puerto Rican Felipe Luciano of the Last Poets served as an inspiration for MCing. The Last Poets were comprised of individuals from African and Caribbean backgrounds, not fba
BUT Lawrence Padilla Aka (Jalal Mansur Nuriddin) WHO IS CONSIDERED Aka
(The Grand Father of Rap )
He also is a Puerto Rican descent
not fba..
He was a Founder member of the Last Poets a group of poets and musicians that evolved in the 1960s out of the Harlem Writers Workshop in New York City.
6. Bambaataa was instrumental in unifying the various elements of hip-hop and establishing the movement itself. Analyzing the contributions, it becomes evident that Caribbean artists were key creators and innovators of hip-hop, a statement grounded in factual evidence rather than personal opinions.
Basically, when they say James Brown, or Funk, soul, Jazz, or ect, its all contributions to Hip Hop development, not hip hop creations!
just like Salsa, Mambo, Bolero, plena, bomba or ect, its all contributions of developing the sound, thats all it is, because what was actually invented in Hip Hop was the merry-go-round concept, and the Quick Mix Theory concept, the rest of the art forms are rooted to ancient and medieval civilizations our civilizations just added/Contributed or revolutionized those art forms !!!
Prior to Herc's introduction of the merry-go-round, all DJs were merely playlist DJs; they did not loop the breaks, Herc invented that concept, which is the first element that defined a real hip-hop DJ. which is not the same as a playlist dj, who was some who just play full songs, because if want to go to that direction Dj, Mixing, was created by the radio stations and nightclubs, and the white man created that. not fba
This information is well-documented, supported by published accounts, and validated by hip-hop scholars, pioneers, and participants who were present during these pivotal events. The evidence regarding the key figures who instigated significant changes in hip-hop is indisputable and factual and not based on feelings based opinions and delusional lies !.!.!.!.!
If hip-hop was fifty- fifty like Fat Joe try to say how come it wasn't created in Puerto Rico or any Latin country? If people try to credit Cool Herc as the father of rap how come it wasn't created in Jamaica or how come it doesn't sound like Jamaican music. Saying it fifty fifty is like saying Latin music and Jamaican music was created by black Americans but Bob Marley and early Jamaicans said Jamaican music was inspired by Jamaican artists being influenced by black American music such as country, blues and Jazz artists. And all that is okay and fine wirh me. Latin music was a combination of African music by way of the Africans that was sent to South America. Afro Latin music has the melody of the African drum and other instruments that was brought to South America by the enslaved blacks.
Real Talk FBA Family👍🏿
And Puerto Ricans think that Freestyle started with them too? 😂And it didn’t!!!!
Yes. Hip-Hop music and Culture was created by Black people yet we never had an issue welcoming other minorities till now. Why can’t we just keep Hip-Hop worldwide??? Why should it matter what race you are to be down with both Hip-Hop music and Culture today??? It just seems like the whole world wants to stay divided these days.
Have you not been paying attention to what’s been going on lately🤦🏾♀️ obviously you have not or you wouldn’t be asking this question. Sounds like tether babble🤷🏾♀️
I have been paying attention and I feel all this controversy is stupid. Everyone knows that Hip-Hop was created by Black people. @
Important point: Cristobal Columbus was a "BLACK" Sephardic Jew from Spain. 👊🏾💯
Jamaican music was influenced by Black American music 😂
No King black Americans was influenced by Jamaicans!! we went to the island and set up a black American community we don’t speak English no more!! our language🇯🇲 hokey hokey Hoo poo poo!!!
@darkenergy361 no sir Black American music existed before Caribbean music. All Caribbean artists say that they were influenced by Black American music
I mean the ol school Caribbean artists
@@kingtrilloriginal6967 🤣🤣 read the comment again, brother!!!
Stop the lies. Getting fly is ny culture. New york is the fashion capital. Harlem was the mecca for getting fly. Southerners were not hip at all. In fact, no one else was getting fly like new york, and that still stands. So, stop the lies.
In my opinion we really always been hip hop by swagg alone look at all those old movies from the black & white era
Listen 👂!!!!!! Before breaking what and why we were already saying and doing the GET DOWN!!!!!!
appreciate y'all ... welcome to the battle fam
😂 Don’t worry in a second they will be telling Busta Ryhmes that they started Reggae!!!! 😂
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If we have noticed, when it comes to Hip Hop origins, the fba specially when they are talking about the origin of rapping they will always say and used The Jubalaires 1946 song "Noah" as their ultimate primary recibo, right ?
well here are so here is some of my many recibo, many songs that predate the The Jubalaires (1946) song "Noah"
The Jubalaires
1946 song "Noah"
1 Harry Reser Banjo solo; Lollipops 1925
2 Piccolo Pete (Baxter) by Harry Reser’s Syncopators, vocal by Tom Stacks, recorded in NYC September 14. 1929
3 Harry Reser
Everybody loves my girl
4 I am the very model
of a modern major general (1879)
5 The Harry Reser band. This is the flip side of "Someone Is Losin' Susan". Vocal by Tom Stacks. Take C. Recorded April, 1926.
6 Transferred from the original 78rpm: Decca 264 - Santa Claus Is Comin’ To Town (Coots-Gillespie) by Harry Reser & his Orchestra, vocal by Tom Stacks, recorded in NYC October 24, 1934
7 The Beat Of My Heart,” this 1934 Johnny Burke-Harold Spina
8 Fanlight Fanny · George Formby
9 Formby, George: It's Turned Out Nice Again (1932-1946)
10 You Can't Blame Me For That",
Imperial No. 1903
7846-6
Recorded in New York on Friday, 23rd March 1928
11 Six Jumping Jacks - Say Mister! Have You Met Rosie's Sister? Fox Trot (Charlie Harrison /Fred Rose) Vocal Chorus by Tom Stacks, Brunswick 1926 (USA)
12 Lo-do-de-o · Harry Reser 1927
Harry Reser's Six Jumping Jacks: 1926
13 Harry Reser's Syncopators - Don't Be Like That, Columbia 1928
14 My One And Only (music & lyrics George and Ira Gershwin) - Clicquot Club Eskimos (Harry Reser's Orch.), voc, Tom Stacks, Columbia 1927
15 The Village Blacksmith Owns the Village Now · Harry Reser
Harry Reser: Original Recordings 1926
16 She's Got "It" · Harry Reser and His Six Jumping Jacks
17 I Scream, You Scream, We All Scream for Ice Cream! · Harry Reser's Syncopators
18 She's Got Great Ideas · Harry Reser and His Six Jumping Jacks (FULL RAPPING)
19 Collegiate Sam by Harry Raser (FULL RAPPING)
Recorded in New York on September 14, 1929. Vocal by Tom Stacks
20 I Love That Girl
Recorded April, 1928
21 Who's Afraid of the Big Bad wolf YESS
Perfect 15827-A
September 26, 1933
22 5-24-1926 Harry Reser As Seven Wild Men. Harry F. Reser (FULL RAPPING)
23 Harry Reser's Syncopators, v. Tom Stacks - Collegiate Sam (Davis /Coots), Columbia 1929
24 Mysterious Mose by Frank Auburn & his Orchestra (Harry Reser), vocal by Tom Stacks, recorded in NYC April 10, 1930
25 Harry Reser - Brunswick matrix E32377. Send for our free booklet / Six Jumping Jacks
the first full rapping
3/20/1930
RAP
Six Jumping Jacks - Say Mister! Have You Met Rosie's Sister? Fox Trot (Charlie Harrison /Fred Rose) Vocal Chorus by Tom Stacks, Brunswick 1926 (USA)
Every one of those predates The The Jubalaires 1946 song "Noah"
which means fba was copy, vulture and then claim what fba didn't create, and you want more prove fba are not the first to Rap in the English British Language, not fba language which means is not your culture...
Hip hop started in the south period. New York just gave it a name and added to it. In the 40s New York wasnt dancing like that until the people from the south started moving there or the people from New York came to the south truing to run from the cops and saw what we were doing. In some cases they had t.v. or movies and they saw it that way. You remember when New York tried to ban the south from using its own creation? Yeah the south shut New York down and told them that they dont run nothing. They are the ones who took it to the public but that culture is all of America and other groups who also came in with their own style.
pls . the south was listening or doing hip hop . till the bronx put the world on l. stop the lies
@@stone5578how much FBA History do you know to make that assertion?
What is the only American art form? JAZZ!!!!!
AKA Black Classical Music. Big Band Orchestras and all!!
I Love the term FBA Foundational Black American…. Thank youuu we are definitely waking up…
Noooo!!!!! HIP HOP the culture of putting all the elements come from NEW YORK. The individual parts come from all over the South.
They didnt put it together they just added to it. So still it was created in the south and New York just like California added their own thing to it. We love New York but New York didnt create nothing it just introduce it to the world.
I was born in the 70’s, when I went to visit my family in South Carolina and Alabama. I never saw them listening to “hip hop”. I heard a lot of gospel. Please, explain what hip hop looked like when it was created in the south? Was there graffiti on the houses? Because we had it everywhere. We definitely wasn’t dressing like the south because we have the fashion district and the dress code changed daily. And our vocabulary was extensive hence some of the greatest lyricists come out of New York. So, I’m curious when did the south create “Hip Hop.” Not the elements, because those can be found in black people all over. Receipts please.
@@joeperry2545all Black music comes out of gospel music. Basically from slavery up until fruity loops the church was the only place you could have consistent access to instruments and a culture of musicians to learn from. Every major Black American artist is no more than 1 generation from a Black church going family.
@@kingjoeblack5 I need receipts, not speculation, respectfully. Again, please clarify when, where in the south was hip hop created? I need an origin story.
@@joeperry2545 no music genre has an origin story… you gotta put the comic books down and start thinking logically. That corporate story about having some random party in the 70s where nobody knew the music, nobody knew how to dance doesn’t hold up to scrutiny at all. The truth is, New Yorkers sold the culture to the small hats and that’s how they ended up getting the cameras to come out.
I read on you tube yesterday Mexicans Jews Puerto Rican Irish and Jamaicans created hip hop and latin music influenced the creation of hip hop shit done got code red outrageous with the lies....FBA all day!!!!
When hiphop was being created they didn't say only blk people can listen to this it was open to everyone so they can express there form of the art form yeah also graffiti was out way before hiphop was created and the original writers didn't even like rap music and Africa Bambata made graffiti a element on his own without asking the
original writers if it's cool that I can make it a element
The hell are talking about? Nobody ever mentioned anything about banning people from listening to rap
This fba are saying that breakdancing didn't start in New York because some 1950s videos, well Brazilian Capoeira, Martial Arts dance, Acrobatic dances predates those "fba" videos, so i should mean fba didn't create or invent any of those moves!!
It's New York culture that spread.
It's Black American Culture!!! Correct yourself if you don't know
@@jabbad2992 It's not. Blacks in Texas weren't up on it in 77, 78, 79. They caught on in the 80s and they were rookies. Puerto Ricans were emceeing before any black person in Texas.
Take yo Goofy Ass to Jamaica for a MONTH. Then go to Chicago for a MONTH and then you tell us where HIP-HOP comes from.
The FBA (lineage) on US soil since day 1 before America was called America. Every FBA are one with uniqueness that created every genres and dances that makes up the culture in America. FBA do not colonize locations like outsiders from FBA culture. FBA are connected with each other, and embrace each others uniqueness although we may joke at each other= FBA ARE ALL ONE! Again, FBA families are connected with we each other all over the US. You outsiders bring that crazy division. FBA ARE ONE!
People who don't know BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY or CULTURE makes stupid statements like yours online ALL THE TIME. Allow me to enlighten you, 1st H.I.P. H.O.P. is NOT a genre of music, however H.I.P. H.O.P. IS FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. Now before you rebutt with silly retort allow me to ask, HOW MUCH BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY do you know? BESIDES the racist stereotypical Eurocentric lies?
The term owns is what I can’t get past. Invented by black americas for sure. But owned!?
Cornbread invented Graffiti 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Puerto Ricans fought in every USA War including the Civil War and for every Civil Rights, also Puerto Rico has been an Associate Free State of USA since 1898, which means that Puerto Ricans are Natural Born Citizen of USA just like any fba, why, because we fought that, because is our Civil Rights just like is the right of any fba !
Jamar voted Trump and black people should've never gave Joe the n- word pass.
Many ppl think FBA is an organization. I’ve seen “FBA” say it.
Don’t agree with fat Joe but there’s part of this conversations missing
Not true… more tether babble🤦🏾♀️
@@stephmarie1111 what you mean not true? And tether babble? I can show n prove what I’m trying to say. How can you say what I’m saying is false?
The black thing😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
Who really wants credit for starting the ignorance that is HIP HOP?
Yes it was started in Bew York Bro stop it
People who don't know BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY or CULTURE makes stupid statements like yours online ALL THE TIME. Allow me to enlighten you, 1st H.I.P. H.O.P. is NOT a genre of music, however H.I.P. H.O.P. IS FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. Now before you rebutt with silly retort allow me to ask, HOW MUCH BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY do you know? BESIDES the racist stereotypical Eurocentric lies?
We not talking about no old days...And matter of fact you wasn't saying that sht a few years ago...so stop your B.S.
@@keithfowler1674 I noticed you didn't answer my question about HOW MUCH FBA HISTORY DO YOU KNOW? But went straight to the bs even though I said in my comment you would. Now "we not talkinig about the old days" What kinda response is that? Of course the old days matter too and knowing MY FBA history allows to speak as such. You're just hatin cuz you aint FBA and you can't change the past. What FBAs do is ALWAYS etched in stone when it comes to you non-FBA hatin mkrz. So you can stop the b.s. tether!
Look Up Liny Hop Harlem Renaissance
Bro slavery was worldwide for blacks,Australia was once black,north east Africa now call Middle East was once black,New Zealand was once black,so black Americans were not the only groups that went through slavery
This is true but the difference between US slavery is Chattel Slavery was perpetual. From my understanding slavery/indentured servitude in other countries was not perpetual. However, you can correct me if I'm wrong.
No blacks no hiphop
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😂So Caribbeans and Latinos didn't go through slavery, they were not slaves? 🤔🤥
First and foremost the guys in NYC that started Hip Hop came from the South period
Puerto Ricans stole reggaeton from the black latinos in Panama? They trying to say bachata started in PR when it started in DR😅 wait...there's more!!😅
We need to remain united. Understand this without Latino involvement in the early Jamz culture it would still exist. Hence without any involvement from Black youth there would be NO Jamz culture which is known today as HIP HOP !!! Everything about the HIP HOP culture was in existence before it became the Jamz culture, I hit the number I hit the number how'd ya get it over the telephone .... The Mills brothers Peg Leg Bates Sammy Davis jr Jocko Henderson Bootsy etc. EOTD its a Black THANG !!! PS Disco King Mario and John Browne and DJ Hollywood were early Participants in the culture ! John Browne who played at the Plaza Tunnel is believed to have inspired Herc ..... Hence JB is probably the biggest reason the Jamz culture started as like Cholly Rock says its something that started from the Black Spade Culture.
Dor all the ppl in the comments from the south, hip hop not rap but hip hop statted in NYC. Influence is not invention, cut it out. Damn, u have jazz and country, and gospel. Leave gogo (dc area music) hio hop, hypy music, techno music, to the east and west coast. I dare you to say Gansta rap, gogo, texhno come from there because our ppl originated on the south, that make no sense don't start a civil war fba war online 😂 qe all fam.. im not from NYC but im from the east coast PG county MD (richest black county in the nation to be exact) where gogo come from fba culture 🇺🇸
All New York did was the same as California. They added their own spin on it and talked about their journey. All they did was introduce it to the world.
@@snakemanjones8272 the south were students you guys had no rappers of rap groups in the 70s
@@snakemanjones8272 we should you all how to dress . say we didn't ?
@3:45. You may wanna cut that out beloved. You see how that got Joe all hemmed up. I agree with you. I am a 70s baby out of NYC and that number was not 50%. It may have been more like 10/90 in the genesis. I agree with you but Pigmeat Markim is not Hip Hop. Those guys were not rappers. New York MC's got their style off of radio DJ's like Frankie Crocker on WWRL in NY and Jocko from Philly. They were talking that rhyme talk on the radio and they wanted to be cool like them. Also there is another factor that they have left off. Blaxpoitation HELPED create the cool the B Boys wanted to be like, and that was not regional to NYC. I am from Brooklyn from Jamaican parents and will admit we ASSUMILATED into the culture we and ADDED to it but Absolutely did not create it.
Lietinos… you are NOT the Father or Mother of Hip Hop🤣🤣 You not the Papi🤷🏾♀️😂
New York is and was that place like no other😂. Using these current events to once again try and take away the light from that city that blacks been setting trends in since the 20s. Just admit something different about New York
Absolutely nothing is special about New York. The southern blacks are the top dog in music sports and entertainment and fashion. Tell us what New York has that makes it special?
@snakemanjones8272 of course, the world feels like that too.
New Yorkers are so weird now, the accent don’t sound cool no more. That SMD stuff is super weird 👀
Ok let me ask this… when you say your ancestors do you only mean blacks in America? That’s what it seems like
Only? Who else would we be talking about? We’re Black Americans.. all our ancestors were from this land.. just like Caribbean and Latinos ancestors were from their countries.. get it?
@ so the slave trade nvr happened?
@@Lord3sixty ok but what does that have to do with anything? We’re not the same .. with what little slaves that were brought here to North America we are far removed from anything else outside of our country.. FBA’s are not Caribbean or Africans cmon dawg.
Bro said Columbus but us puerto ricans really the last people with the blood from the people who fought Columbus...shit im 30 % native taino from the original people of the island mixed with west African black and white. One of the main ancestors of us Boricuas was in the "Americas" before whites and blacks. Way before hiphop was even an idea. Aint no issue with fba they unique bc they real american usa culture but us puerto ricans been here since before all this shit...so we not colonizing nor are we colonizers cause our homeland is the last colony...this is dead ass ...
Here's something that none of you know. RAP initially was black people exchanging information of substance to uplift and enrich the group as a whole.. What these men are doing is actually Rap.The Greeks 1000 years ago called it contemplation. It's any exchange of wisdom rationale and logic.. Now most of you disbelieve me, but I will prove it to you.There was a talk show in the 70's called Lets Rap..( google it) There was no music there was nobody rhyming what it was was prominent black people discussing social economic and educational issues in order to uplift the people.( something terrifying to White Supremacists)... I will teach my people.
Dude you from Houston. Hip hop wasnt created in Texas. Stop talking about what you don't know.
And WTF do you know? Are you black American?
@@jabbad2992 Why did you have to imitate New York first before finding your niche.
@barrybarry-b5h We know our Culture where ever it is. I hustled in Puerto Rican Neighborhoods. I've worked with a bunch of Jamaicans and my people's had Jamaican plugs. THEIRS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT EARLY HIP-HOP THAT FROM ANY FOREIGN CULTURES. PERIOD. My family has been in NYS for decades before Hip-hop started. So get yo foreign @$$ outta here!!!
@@barrybarry-b5h The FBA (lineage) on US soil since day 1 before America was called America. Every FBA are one with uniqueness that created every genres and dances that makes up the culture in America. FBA do not colonize locations like outsiders from FBA culture. FBA are connected with each other, and embrace each others uniqueness although we may joke at each other= FBA ARE ALL ONE! Again, FBA families are connected with we each other all over the US. You outsiders bring that crazy division. FBA ARE ONE!
@@DJBigs I don't wanna hear all that Tariq Nasheed babbling.
Urban Politics speaking facts. that liquor pushed it out a lil clearer for yall sensitive mofos hahaha!
Blacks outside nyc from Crenshaw to Trenton to chicago to Detroit to Mali to Zimbabwe to congo had no clue on birth of hip hop till nyc shared it
The FBA (lineage) on US soil since day 1 before America was called America. Every FBA are one with uniqueness that created every genres and dances that makes up the culture in America. FBA do not colonize locations like outsiders from FBA culture. FBA are connected with each other, and embrace each others uniqueness although we may joke at each other= FBA ARE ALL ONE! Again, FBA families are connected with we each other all over the US. You outsiders bring that crazy division. FBA ARE ONE!
People who don't know BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY or CULTURE makes stupid statements like yours online ALL THE TIME. Allow me to enlighten you, 1st H.I.P. H.O.P. is NOT a genre of music, however H.I.P. H.O.P. IS FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. Now before you rebutt with silly retort allow me to ask, HOW MUCH BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY do you know? BESIDES the racist stereotypical Eurocentric lies?
You sound dumb! Those blacks in NYC migrated from the south late 1800's. That's #FBA all day!
@@DJBigs facts 👌
Chicago was more into house music.
You all don't speak for all of us. Stop calling all of us "FBAs". You nor them represent me. I'm a student of Dr. Clarke, Dr. Molefi, Mr. Browder, Dr. Welsing etc. They would clown the ISH out of this joke of a "movement". We don't do gimmicks. If someone called me an FBA in real life, I'd cuss their ignorant a$$es out. All of those who claim that gimmick appear to be highly uneducated.
But you ok with Jesse Jackson calling you a African American you ain’t African Black slaves built America do Jamaicans call themselves African Jamaicans in Jamaica do Haitians call themselves African Haitians in Haiti Black slaves from America been here since the foundation of America I rather be called Foundational Black American than a African American our ancestors were left for dead by Africa go to Africa and you will see you ain’t no African that’s right FBA is the right name since we built America from its foundation
U 2 obsurd. Nyc Latino nyc black Sylvia Robinson sugar hill gang Africa bombatta created hip hop.
Lies you tell and the lies you love. It is Foundational Black American Culture Creation. Without FBA, this would not be a discussion.
People who don't know BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY or CULTURE makes stupid statements like yours online ALL THE TIME. Allow me to enlighten you, 1st H.I.P. H.O.P. is NOT a genre of music, however H.I.P. H.O.P. IS FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. Now before you rebutt with silly retort allow me to ask, HOW MUCH BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY do you know? BESIDES the racist stereotypical Eurocentric lies?
LATINO 😂😂😂😂😂😂You Ricans are corny to EVERYONE WHO IS FBA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yall ever heard of Blowfly the Rapper? Look him up..he was from the 70's waaaaay before Too Short's Dirty Lyrics Or Luke Skywalker's Dirty Nursery Rymes...
This dude ain 💯. He just b talking. He never ever said anything enlightening. You know how people speak in a certain style to make seem like they are saying something. Dude is a clown. Always having a cup in his hands……smh. Ain talking bout nothing….he just talking.