WHAT ELSE CAN A JET ENGINE AFTERBURNER DO?!

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  • @rom65536
    @rom65536 2 года назад +423

    Years ago, one of the first projects I worked on as an aerospace engineer was "Alternative fuels". We took a stock jet engine (as would be found on a light commuter jet) and ran everything from peanut oil to vodka through it. Turns out, the peanut oil ran the engine just fine, but to get it to run on vodka, we had to make modifications to the engine's software. Turns out, peanut oil is more expensive than jet fuel, but it has the added benefit of making the entire test site smell like fried chicken right after start up and shutdown.

    • @thorer6778
      @thorer6778 2 года назад +3

      Do you got some videos of that would love to see it

    • @rom65536
      @rom65536 2 года назад +27

      @@thorer6778 Unfortunately, I don't have access to videos of it, and if I had video and posted it to youtube, they'd sue me to the point of homelessness.

    • @onekycarscanners6002
      @onekycarscanners6002 2 года назад +1

      You can remake it.

    • @JWSmythe
      @JWSmythe 2 года назад +5

      I was going through ideas for alternate diesel fuels for cars. Mostly, I was just exploring options. I have a diesel pusher RV, and wanted to know all my fueling options. Ya, peanut oil, or most any food oils you can buy in a grocery store, are more expensive than their road fuel counterparts. It's probably cheaper to get them in industrial quantities, but same can be said about road fuels.
      The vodka may not have worked as desired because of the water content in it. The average is 80 proof, or 40% alcohol, 60% water. You can refine it to about 95% alcohol, 5% water, but after that, it starts absorbing it back in from the atmosphere. You may have been better off with strong methyl alcohol. Just don't drink the surplus methyl alcohol jet fuel after work, that stuff will kill you.

    • @Turksarama
      @Turksarama 2 года назад +2

      @@JWSmythe Something I've heard of people doing is getting _used_ cooking oil from restaurants for free (they'd normally have to pay to get rid of it) then re-refining it to take out anything you don't want going through an engine and using that. It apparently works pretty well, some people even claim to get better engine performance but I think they're probably imagining it.

  • @WarpedYT
    @WarpedYT 2 года назад +469

    You need a secondary ignition in Afterburner for a few reasons, Mixture Pressure, Temperature, time of atomization, and the cooling dynamics of the fluid as it makes it's way out of the nozzle. but when the burnfront is behind the ignitable gases moving at that speed with a soft even molecular cushion, you need a nice sharp spark to break that balloon. and that assuming you have some nice pockets at the injectors to stir things up, I find if you ramp up the fuel pressure nice and high with small nozzles it works well. the algorithm gods apparently know what I'm working on right now...whoa .. haha.

    • @TechIngredients
      @TechIngredients  2 года назад +142

      You're right about the nozzle size vs pressure to maximize atomization. Pump capability is really the only limitation here.
      Like you, I enjoy pushing past the typical barriers. This is why it's important to study how those barriers were established and understanding how the "pros" do it. Then let it rip...😶

    • @WarpedYT
      @WarpedYT 2 года назад +77

      ​@@TechIngredients absolutely! I 100% agree, you have to have fun in life, life is so much fun when you know how to build things and make a lot of noise...lol!.
      Also I wanted to mention with the turbo style exducer vs an axial turbine there's usually a spinning pressure zone coming out of that turbo against the walls of the afterburner creating a sorta lean/rich environment in the same space, but there's so many different variations of this I find that each setup requires individual analysis and treatment.

    • @aaronschocke2147
      @aaronschocke2147 2 года назад +12

      This may be a bit naïve, but would their be any benefit to introducing a stator to vector some of that exhaust gas into a slightly straighter path down your afterburner? I would imagine that the exhaust gasses experience a lot of angular momentum and want to wrap the wall of the pipe. I wonder if a straighter flow over your flame holders would better promote flame stability.

    • @kmart1319
      @kmart1319 2 года назад +3

      @@aaronschocke2147 I have the same question. As you mentioned, installing a stator should reduce the swirl. It should also reduce the exhaust gas velocity, which, if I understood @Tech Ingredients, is beneficial when igniting the atomized fuel.

    • @LouSaydus
      @LouSaydus 2 года назад +8

      Could you pre-heat the after burner fuel (engine cooling?) to ensure auto-ignition in the AB kinda like the regenerative cooling the shuttle uses in it's rocket engine?

  • @kal9001
    @kal9001 2 года назад +988

    Exotic speakers, Fancy laser displays, now the mother of all fog machines... If they guy ever opens a night club it's going to be epic!

    • @TheOfficialOriginalChad
      @TheOfficialOriginalChad 2 года назад +139

      I suspect the DJ will be restricted to royalty-free classical music

    • @mapo5976
      @mapo5976 2 года назад +15

      Be great if it's hooked up to a getaway car being chased by a convoy of cops. Dense up the town for days. (Evil laugh😉)

    • @supergeek1418
      @supergeek1418 2 года назад +16

      For a minute, there, I thought that Snoop Dogg was in their garage!

    • @stinkerton
      @stinkerton 2 года назад +31

      Don't forget the fine distillates.

    • @tombignell8932
      @tombignell8932 2 года назад +2

      Sponsored by carlsberg

  • @jmannUSMC
    @jmannUSMC 2 года назад +28

    I've had a pretty awful day filled with 4 separate engineering job rejection emails, but this cheered me right the heck back up. You're the coolest internet uncle around lol

  • @bwobbles2368
    @bwobbles2368 2 года назад +34

    “I love my job” was so sincere. I am jealous of your amazing work and the fun you have, at least I can experience it vicariously by watching your videos. I hope you continue this for many years to come!

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 2 года назад +135

    Neighbors, seeing cloud of fog:
    "He's at it again."
    "What's he doing this time?"
    "I think... I think he's building a thunderstorm."

    • @capitalinventor4823
      @capitalinventor4823 2 года назад +5

      "Martha, call the fire department! That youngin' across the road has set fire to his workshop again!"
      " Yes, Henry," and doesn't bother to call.

    • @djmips
      @djmips 2 года назад +1

      Cloudbusting.

    • @nameredacted1242
      @nameredacted1242 2 года назад +2

      Better than the hydrogen explosion... The neighbors are still shaking from that one.

    • @testpilotmafia862
      @testpilotmafia862 2 года назад +1

      @@nameredacted1242 😂 Nobody in that neighborhood will forget that one.

    • @normansimonsen1203
      @normansimonsen1203 2 года назад +1

      Maybe, approve his request for reduction of property taxes ?

  • @K-----
    @K----- 2 года назад +123

    You are quite literally a cooler and more legal Mr. White. 10/10 quality videos

    • @ivanrlynn
      @ivanrlynn 2 года назад +2

      Was trying to form words but I can only salute you 😎

  • @Kabluey2011
    @Kabluey2011 2 года назад +36

    I love it. The genuine joy on your face when the fog burner was running is heartwarming. Great build. Love the whole thing

  • @polly_D
    @polly_D 2 года назад +44

    It's great seeing something being constructed from theory and in the process, overcoming the constraints that a practical, working model presents. Very informative and cool!

    • @mapo5976
      @mapo5976 2 года назад

      My mother always told me growing up to be a physicist or something.
      I just became a something.
      You got to admire the intellect.....

    • @fuckednegativemind
      @fuckednegativemind 2 года назад +1

      @@mapo5976 A something is better than a nothing!
      I'm despaired when I see all those tiktok and other "social networks" addicted people who can't even answer a simple math or physics question and who have absolutely no curiosity to understand the world around them. Narcissism and superficiality, the keys to this modern society...

  • @d.martins709
    @d.martins709 2 года назад +2

    i dont even know how can someone criticize you man, you're the best teacher ever!

  • @doctorali53
    @doctorali53 2 года назад +12

    Every time you release a video, I'm notified 7 to 10 hours later because of time difference zone, so it's in morning time at work, I impatiently look for a peace time to watch and got drown in extreme pleasure by your nice and easy to understand explanation of each and every science and engineering points.
    You are a great teacher, best wishes for you and your family from Iran.

  • @carlmclelland7624
    @carlmclelland7624 2 года назад +1

    WHEW, you were way beyond my paygrade, but I sat glued to the computer watching this. Thank you, sir, for a MOST INTERESTING education!!!

  • @borhex
    @borhex 2 года назад +82

    24:18 Stage one exhaust gasses have plenty of CO2 and NOx which are really good at absorbing heat and not giving it to the cold fuel. The way to auto-ignite is to pre-heat the fuel.
    Run it through a pipe wrapped around the exaust and pre-heat it(it doubles as protection for the pipe)

    • @bruceschneier6283
      @bruceschneier6283 2 года назад +12

      I think this is similar to what they do in commercial liquid fuel rocket engines right?

    • @ilikeyourname4807
      @ilikeyourname4807 2 года назад +19

      @@bruceschneier6283 It is. In rocket engines they even use the heat to drive the turbopumps and pressurize the fuel. It's really elegant and kinda nuts. These kinds of engines use a system called "expander cycle" and also feature probably the sharpest temperature gradient ever observed, going from being able to boil steel to liquid oxygen in less than an inch

    • @ridermak4111
      @ridermak4111 2 года назад +5

      Reminds me of how wide-eyed I was when I found out that huge spiral of tubing wrapped around a hot air balloon’s flame was propane being pre-heated. 😳

    • @borhex
      @borhex 2 года назад +5

      I wpuld also suggest a pilot burner inside the combustion chamber instead of the spark plug, a tiny tube with separate fuel and air mix delivered from the atmosphere via venturi intake. The pilot flame needs to be protected from the turbulent atmosphere of the engine with a perforated shield. We found (at our company making industrial burners) that the pilot is a well worth investment because it provides a constant ignition point regardless of the disturbances the main flaim would have due to changing (for example) combustion air temperature.
      Remember, with CO2 in the combustion air, just a few Celsius up or down can shut off your flame.
      Note: This will however produce NOx and CO so the environment will not like it, but for testing purposes and for proof of concept it will definitely have a huge boost in momentum/inertia performance.
      Because a good pilot and a stable flame will allow you to increase the overall speed that you had to reduce initially....

    • @Unsensitive
      @Unsensitive 2 года назад +1

      @@ridermak4111 even a simple Coleman lantern or stove uses a preheater, though it's not for cooling, just proper performance.

  • @jordangladden
    @jordangladden 2 года назад +4

    I can't believe that I'm watching a video that opens with asking if you happen to have a turbo jet. I love this channel. Great vids. Keep them coming.

  • @slickstretch6391
    @slickstretch6391 2 года назад +253

    Other engineering videos: "Don't try this at home."
    Tech Ingredients: "I'm gonna give you the plans, tell you where to get the parts, and give you some cool ideas. Have fun."❤

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 2 года назад +12

      At 35:40 Vapers out there, rejoice!! We finally have a new jet powered, after-burning vape mod for your vaping pleasure! 😆 😂 🤣

    • @homeopathicfossil-fuels4789
      @homeopathicfossil-fuels4789 2 года назад +7

      @@BillAnt fuck yeah I'll make all town have 5 meters of vibisibility and reek heavily of strawberry!!!! :v
      though i love that cloud oh my god

    • @nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
      @nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 2 года назад +5

      dont try this at home sounds like a politically correct way to pathologize uselessness and trust in corporate logos. but... i'm cynical so surely that's not the case. right?
      Anyway yeah thank goodness.

    • @homeopathicfossil-fuels4789
      @homeopathicfossil-fuels4789 2 года назад

      @@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 actually its to legally disclaim yourself from liability from that special and way too common class of idiots that are iliterate enough to do something dangerous with no prior knowledge or training in the subject (like the microwave transformer wood burner tutorial followers, do not look up the photos of the aftermath of that) but also literate enough to know that courts exist, that lawyers exist and that some lawyers will pursue any case, and that you can sue people for almost any kind of damage with even the vaguest of cause or liability.

    • @dunuth
      @dunuth 2 года назад

      @@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 indeed

  • @rcs3030
    @rcs3030 2 года назад +1

    Finally, a person that can explain this so even a dummy like me can understand ! Now I get it......and I'm loving every minute of it ! Thank you

  • @RageDavis
    @RageDavis 2 года назад +146

    Lower oxygen content in the gases after the turbine seem to be a reasonable explaination for an increased temperature for self ignition. Additionally, evaporating the fuel in the afterburner requires energy, which is taken from the turbine exhaust gases. Hence the temperature of those exhaust gases might be decreased significantly, depending on the amount of fuel added. Both effects together might be enough to prevent autoignition...

    • @brandonb6164
      @brandonb6164 2 года назад +20

      I also think evaporative cooling of the kerosene might play a role.

    • @maxrun29
      @maxrun29 2 года назад +8

      That's what I was thinking , cat member the video but that asked a drag car driver why there car had no intercooler he sed the cooling of the air from the fuel evaporating was around 200 degrees .

    • @MSivonen
      @MSivonen 2 года назад +1

      That's what i thought. TechIngredients, try to measure the ex temp without spark plugs active?

    • @wombatschaefer5408
      @wombatschaefer5408 2 года назад +1

      I think I spotted the rocket scientist

    • @Leo99929
      @Leo99929 2 года назад +4

      I experienced this with an auto ignition coil and butane. Worked fine for slow butane gas, but as you try to increase the fuel delivery rate the expansion of the stored liquid into a gas cooled the fuel to the point the ignition coil couldn't maintain the temperature required for auto ignition.
      A fatter element pulling enough power to offset the fuel cooling effect can work, but then it is likely to melt without the cooling from the fuel. This pushes you towards some kind of closed feedback loop maybe based on the resistance of the element in order to vary the voltage and maintain an electrode temperature within operating ranges.
      The option I went for in the end was a ~100W ZVS flyback transformer and a spark gap strong enough to melt 2.5 mm steel electrodes. Tungsten electrodes helps with the melting. Then you have to worry about the wind speed "blowing the spark out".

  • @totherarf
    @totherarf 2 года назад +2

    My favourite moment of this one was watching you walk back through the fog trailing your own wake!
    Got to say ..... I Love watching you love your job!

  • @mikesp1
    @mikesp1 2 года назад +10

    my first job in the Air Force after turbojet mechanic tech school was in the afterburner shop at Edwards AFB I worked on J85 and J79 afterburners. all this info good

  • @squirrelzar
    @squirrelzar 2 года назад +6

    Your commitment to creating this incredibly digestible content is amazing. Thank you for all the time and effort you put in to both the builds and the videos.

  • @SnorreSelmer
    @SnorreSelmer 2 года назад +29

    Back when I worked as ground-crew on the F-16 fighter-jet, we learned that the afterburner basically doubled the thrust at the cost of _quadrupling_ fuel-consumption.. So if the F-16 were to run on afterburner all the time, it would have enough fuel for ~15 minutes of flight... (That's probably with internal tanks only.)

    • @Nurhaal
      @Nurhaal 2 года назад +1

      Yea that's without bags.
      The Viper is tiny and doesn't carry that much internally. Still sick AF tho. It amazes me how the F-35 can carry an entire F-16s mass in fuel alone internally. Whew. That a Lotta' gas in a stubby jet. The Panther is pretty cool too, though.

  • @smtitmas
    @smtitmas 2 года назад

    @37:17, after watching the preceding 30 seconds of you smiling while walking through the fog made me say to myself, "i think this guy must really love his job. than you removed any and all doubt in my mind with this clip. I know nothing about jet engines, im a carpenter and wood is my thing, but your love of and manner in which you explain them makes me have a deeper appreciation of them. thxs for sharing.

  • @myfavoriteviewer306
    @myfavoriteviewer306 2 года назад +5

    Wow, even KISS would be jealous of that fog machine! Great video, as always.

  • @DaxterSnickers
    @DaxterSnickers 2 года назад +1

    I love how your assistants shirt is waving in the exhaust winds.
    Your channel is so cool. Great job. You make hours of content feel like seconds because i enjoy it so much. Thanks a lot.

  • @defaultdriftco00
    @defaultdriftco00 2 года назад +10

    Some of the coolest, well thought out projects on this channel instead of regurgitated content! Thanks guys!

  • @TheAtmady
    @TheAtmady 2 года назад

    I hope this man lives forever ❤️ love from egypt 🇪🇬

  • @QuanrumPresence
    @QuanrumPresence 2 года назад +2

    The flames look so mesmerizing!
    I have to say, you have a way to explain things in a very eloquent and simple manner. I look forward to your video's!

  • @SaintSaint
    @SaintSaint 2 года назад +1

    I love the "long" 30+ minute format of these videos. You pack so much quality information into just a few minutes that I feel engaged throughout. I admit that I skipped to the end to see "cloud machine go brrrrrrr," but I intend on watching the entirety over my lunch break in 6 hrs. I run a hackspace and this could be a useful/fun project.

    • @SaintSaint
      @SaintSaint 2 года назад

      Ooof... I don't think we have the funding/knowledge/time to make this happen after all. It was really cool to watch. We have you playing on our shop TV a lot for inspiration.

  • @benjaminbarr8714
    @benjaminbarr8714 2 года назад +6

    The father-son production is so cool, with great camera work, and amazing project ideas.. this channel deserves all of the interaction it receives.

  • @beautifulsmall
    @beautifulsmall 2 года назад

    Head in the clouds. No thermal camera required , bright orange is self explanatory. . Love the colours of the engine cold parts and the story the holes tell. Made a kiln gas burner with 1" pipe and cut a lip into the 2" exit nozel taper to hold the flame. Works very well. Nice work.

  • @jonathoncassity9853
    @jonathoncassity9853 2 года назад +21

    That was pretty awesome! 😎 The work and dedication that you have put in to what you do along with being an open source is very admirable! You along with others have been an inspiration to do better. 🤠

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 2 года назад +2

    More Jet Engine Stuff Yessssssss! Have you considered making a DIY Turboshaft and/or Turbogenerator?

  • @ChrisB257
    @ChrisB257 2 года назад +15

    More fascinating explanations and data - as usual very well put together and really super demos. Much kudos and thank you. :)

  • @TheDutchSoupPissingCompany
    @TheDutchSoupPissingCompany 2 года назад +1

    Not only I again learned a bunch, but also wat a great fun to watch. My thanks for the work you and your sons put in it.

  • @ravenrock541
    @ravenrock541 2 года назад +19

    Auto-ignition: 02 is important, but also consider the temp drop as the fuel is vaporized/atomized

    • @ashleigh.
      @ashleigh. 2 года назад +2

      I also suspect the time it takes to get (back?) up to that temperature is too long before it's out of the engine.

    • @szogun1987
      @szogun1987 2 года назад +1

      My intuition is that air temperature is not distributed equally in the chamber, so may be lower around fuel inlets and it is not able to get auto-ignition one before leaving an afterburner.
      But I'm not a rocket 🚀 scientist

    • @SteveWyatt
      @SteveWyatt 2 года назад

      also pressure would play a role.

  • @6Sparx9
    @6Sparx9 2 года назад +1

    as always, very compressive explanations

  • @GannDolph
    @GannDolph 2 года назад +5

    That is literally a cloud generation machine. As in full size clouds up in the sky. Friggin' Amazing !! !

    • @scavuman
      @scavuman 2 года назад

      Yes, just like what we see when we look up and watch jets passing overhead on a clear blue day creating clouds that last all day, I think that some say it is just contrails, and others say it is chemtrails.

  • @kiddwong4186
    @kiddwong4186 2 года назад +1

    I wish I had you as a lecturer when I was studying engineering almost 20 years ago.

  • @MatthewMenze
    @MatthewMenze 2 года назад +39

    The flame catchers in the afterburner look to be very close to inducing engine-rich combustion modes. You can see them a bright orange in the camera shot down the afterburner. Could you drill those screw flame catchers out and make them double as a fuel injection stage, which would cool them (and atomize the fuel rather well)?

    • @ChrisDRimmer
      @ChrisDRimmer 2 года назад +10

      For a second I wanted to recommend automotive nitrous plates as those sort of match your description, but I think those tend to be made of aluminium so probably aren’t a great idea unless you like your jet exhaust with added chunks 😁

    • @Vote4Drizzt
      @Vote4Drizzt 2 года назад +7

      @@ChrisDRimmer extra crunchy

    • @ParadigmUnkn0wn
      @ParadigmUnkn0wn 2 года назад

      Close to engine-rich isn't engine-rich. If needed, tungsten TIG welding electrodes could handle the heat, but if it's not a problem why overcomplicate it by looking for solutions you don't need? If/when it becomes a problem I'm sure he will solve it.

    • @MatthewMenze
      @MatthewMenze 2 года назад +1

      @@ParadigmUnkn0wn they are clearly much hotter than the surrounding parts, and the engine is likely temperature limited. So updating those parts would likely increase the operating window of the engine.
      I am also not convinced that titanium would do any better in that specific use case. Titanium can take a large amount of heat in a oxygen free environment, in a hot oxygen environment like that however it’s heat tolerance is dramatically reduced, and particularly when it is then it can combust.

    • @ferky123
      @ferky123 2 года назад +3

      @@MatthewMenze he said tungsten not titanium.

  • @pey-yote
    @pey-yote 2 года назад +2

    I believe the answer you're looking for is the thermal capacity of the fuel being sprayed into the afterburner. Kerosene has a surprising capacity to absorb heat. So much so that many aircraft are equiped with oil-fuel heat exchangers that use the fuel to cool the hot oil coming from the bearings. Basically, the fuel isn't being heated by the residual gasses fast enough in such a small space before the intended combustion area. If you had a fuel "pre-heater" (basically a length of copper or brass tubing that spirals around or "hugs" a hot part of the combustion chamber before feeding that fuel to the supply manifold) you'd probably have better combustion overall and better chances for autoignition to occur

  • @robertf1720
    @robertf1720 2 года назад +6

    Yes, AIT varies with oxygen concentration and other gases at higher partial pressures can interfere. Thanks for being willing to admit it! The exception to this would be self-igniting substances like peroxides and azides. Quality work as usual.

  • @davidcookmfs6950
    @davidcookmfs6950 2 года назад

    35:40 Industrial scale flatulence. Great video. I love your explanation of why wind blows out flame.

  • @erbenton07
    @erbenton07 2 года назад +9

    We had a jet engine t clear ice and snow from the railroad tracks. It was very powerful!

  • @rocket2739
    @rocket2739 2 года назад

    A happy man enjoying his creation. Absolutely love this side of youtube

  • @CharlesM-dp4xe
    @CharlesM-dp4xe 2 года назад +3

    The "Fog juice" reminded me of those mosquito control fog vehicles from the 60s we used to see down in central Florida. I haven't seen one in years but I remember they used to come through the area twice a week. The fog had sort of a creosote-like odor. I think most people then misinterpreted their intended function at the time. I believe they dispersed a residual oil into the environment to starve the mosquito larvae of oxygen in the areas of standing water where they develop. Most people think it was supposed to work like an insecticide and kill them outright but I found that just wasn't the case. In any case very interesting material ... Thank you !

    • @firstmkb
      @firstmkb 2 года назад

      They still have those trucks in St. Louis. I never tried to find out exactly what they were spraying - just assumed it was worse for the mosquitoes than me!

    • @monkfry
      @monkfry 2 года назад

      DDT

  • @torelie6581
    @torelie6581 2 года назад

    - Really enjoyed it. I’m an aviation enthusiast, but I didn’t know much about afterburners. Thank you. It is such a variated channel. I love it. Your doing a great job.

  • @guybrushthreepwood1090
    @guybrushthreepwood1090 2 года назад +4

    Great video. I have to say the space you’re living / working looks incredible. As someone who lives in the UK, my little 1 car garage doesn’t quite measure up. Goals!
    (Minor note: the pedant in me cannot help but say that that Thrust is not momentum, but is instead the rate of change of momentum since thrust is a force :).

    • @TechIngredients
      @TechIngredients  2 года назад +4

      Thanks!
      I'll call your pedanticism and raise you.
      Momentum relative to the air surrounding the engine assumes that any net velocity differential is the result of acceleration generated by the engine.

    • @guybrushthreepwood1090
      @guybrushthreepwood1090 2 года назад +2

      @@TechIngredients Ah ha! I suppose that’s technically correct. The best kind of correct.

  • @BUZDRIFT
    @BUZDRIFT 2 года назад

    This guy's a genius, started watching every single one of his video's after I saw the world's best speaker series!

  • @cuteraptor42
    @cuteraptor42 2 года назад +127

    I'm still wondering how so many people are considering putting an afterburner on their jet engine. You really shouldn't hesitate.

    • @Chris-rg6nm
      @Chris-rg6nm 2 года назад +26

      I'm wondering how do people just casually have loose Jet engines out here.

    • @xcbrr50
      @xcbrr50 2 года назад +9

      @@Chris-rg6nm sounds like those "just casually having an electron microscope and Delorean in their garage"

    • @APMtube9000
      @APMtube9000 2 года назад +2

      Money problem lol my jet engine sunk me already and then I broke it. Id have to fix it and then build an afterburner

    • @eideticex
      @eideticex 2 года назад +1

      @@Chris-rg6nm Scrap yards are amazing!

    • @Two-StrokeLife
      @Two-StrokeLife 2 года назад +1

      ​@@Chris-rg6nm These are diesel truck and automotive turbochargers converted to jet engines. My first one was made from a "scrapyard" Subaru WRX turbo I got for the price of asking if I could have it. I purchased scrap stainless tubing at the metal scrapyard which included 1"-3" sizes with transition tapers and v bands (probably from a food processing plant) total cost was around $15 by weight. The ignition, oil and fuel pump were from junkyard cars and I got them for free. I started it using air compressor with a blow gun nozzle. I didn't have a TIG welder at the time so I MIG welded everything. It looked like crap but it functioned and made good power. I'm willing to guess I had maybe $100 into my test rig by the time I burnt up the center bearing section and moved on to a really nice gt4202 Diesel truck turbo I purchased on ebay for $250.

  • @SuperAWaC
    @SuperAWaC 2 года назад

    I picked up a military surplus fog machine. It tows behind a truck and can single-handedly generate enough smoke screen to cover a international airport (with perfect weather conditions). I used it to fog up a pretty large gorge up in the mountains once.

  • @pierrewind11
    @pierrewind11 2 года назад +32

    That is a beautiful jet engine.
    With the afterburner, your engine appears to be losing a lot of stability. I think your exhaust/ afterburner section has too much restriction for the compressor you are using. You appear to be touching areas of compressor stall/surge. I think a design implementing less restriction (larger diameter) would work better ! But it sure is one of the nicer jet engines out there :)

  • @MrRepeters
    @MrRepeters 2 года назад

    Secondary, schmecondary ignition - EXCELLENT video, I love it!

  • @MaxGuides
    @MaxGuides 2 года назад +2

    Really interesting to see all the little solutions combined here. I built a mini-turboramjet engine for research in college that only worked (in its turbo bypass mode) inside of this hypersonic wind tunnel they had…but I still have dreams of putting a scaled up version on some crazy homemade jet project someday now that I have my private pilots license.

  • @magnetospin
    @magnetospin 2 года назад

    It's a rain maker! California needs you!

  • @curtwuollet2912
    @curtwuollet2912 2 года назад +12

    Your neighbors must have a great sense of humor.

    • @BrianGarside
      @BrianGarside 2 года назад +3

      I wish I was his neighbor!

    • @BatchCam
      @BatchCam 2 года назад +1

      I wish I was his neighbor

    • @kiwigurn
      @kiwigurn 2 года назад +1

      I wish, I was his neighbour.

    • @ridermak4111
      @ridermak4111 2 года назад +2

      Especially when the hydrogen/oxygen balloon was touched off. 💥

  • @notravstar
    @notravstar 2 года назад +2

    Dope, next time I'm building a jet engine I'll keep this in mind

  • @jeremy7923
    @jeremy7923 2 года назад +10

    Love the video, the experiments, the shop, the location, the awesome knowledge.... but! how could you possibly post this without at least some simple thrust comparisons?!?! 😁 Keep them coming...

  • @kevinbaudouin7120
    @kevinbaudouin7120 2 года назад +1

    I learn so much from you. Thanks a million!

  • @RocketCityTech
    @RocketCityTech 2 года назад +22

    I don’t always build turbo jets, but when I do, I always add an afterburner 😆

    • @casemodder89
      @casemodder89 2 года назад +1

      why dont you always build turbojets ? get a proper hobby then !

  • @Erwt64
    @Erwt64 Год назад

    Your presentations are more addictive than *** - (self-censored). Superlatives are insufficient to express my fascination. Thank you so much!

  • @artemiasalina1860
    @artemiasalina1860 2 года назад +8

    All I know is I'd be happy as a clam to have neighbors like these guys. I'd be over there all the time checking out what they're up to and offering help where I could.

  • @purestress2597
    @purestress2597 2 года назад

    THE COMPOUND TURBO COMETH. Thank you my hero, and might I say: it feels good to have had the patience.

  • @DaftFader
    @DaftFader 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the vid!
    I noticed you've been having audio issues the last few vids, I'd check all your wires before forking out for a new mic etc. Could easily be a defective wire/connection from how it sounds.

  • @mickmcgood6543
    @mickmcgood6543 2 года назад

    Are you a teacher? Amazing skill at explaining stuff without skipping the important details. Well done! Next time drink a few glasses of run and dance around in that fog :) Cheers from Australia.

  • @firstmkb
    @firstmkb 2 года назад +4

    What kind of thrust did you get out of Version 2.0?
    The fogger would be an excellent option for people that follow your car too closely!

  • @blahorgaslisk7763
    @blahorgaslisk7763 2 года назад

    22:08 Thank you for including this! I've often found myself telling people to take a break. Step away from their project. Get it out of your head and then take a good long look at what the data is telling you and what your predictions and hopes and dreams were for it were. If they don't agree then stop trying to force the data to fit your prediction. Instead try to under stand why they don't match and decide if it's time to try something else.
    It's often easy to stand to the side and see when someone has run straight into a wall and is trying to bash it down rather than go around. But when it's you doing it that darned wall that interferes with your beautiful theory can be hard to accept. Most people will do this at some time. It may be something small and everyday, or it might have you end up spending 30 years and a fortune trying to build a perpetual motion machine or free energy device.
    When someone tells you to take a step back and look at something then it's usually not because they want to sabotage your idea but because you have been butting your head at that wall for some time now. Step back and try to look as it as if it was someone else idea. If it was someone else doing that would you think they were following good scientific practice?

  • @airlink2142
    @airlink2142 2 года назад +7

    The auto-ignition issue with the afterburner might be due to a high velocity and low pressure flow of the exhaust gases that are entering into the chamber from the turbine.

  • @kianwerner7487
    @kianwerner7487 2 года назад

    again such a great vid!
    i wont built anything like that the next 10 Years. Still watching and consuming all of the explanations, just because its fun and intersting to watch you explain things

  • @MrAtrophy
    @MrAtrophy 2 года назад +3

    19:00 this was one of the difficulties in SCRAM jets, the geometry needed to have these low pressure slower area's when trying to achieve mach 5+ is obviously very hard.

  • @raonialbues
    @raonialbues 2 года назад

    Amazing !! Watching from Brazil here. Thanks.

  • @topfeedcoco
    @topfeedcoco 2 года назад +4

    @Tech Ingredients: Really love your channel brother, another great video (series of videos I hope). When you brought up AgentJayZ I was way ahead of you X-) as any good dude who's geeked out on jet engines should. I have a litany of questions, but I'll just ask: Does not the forcing cone at the beginning of the reheater section negate most of the standard jet thrust achieved by the first stage in your turbo jet? IE if you were measuring the thrust would you not be getting 90% afterburner thrust and a minimal amount of standard jet thrust? Thanks again, I really HOPE you've got some cool sht planned for the 4th of July, and you're planning on filming it!!

    • @TechIngredients
      @TechIngredients  2 года назад +4

      Thanks.
      Not at all. The cone is located in the duct where the inside diameter has increased so that the open cross sectional area changes little from the area of the exducer of the turbocharger.

  • @geraldozambrinjunior4667
    @geraldozambrinjunior4667 9 месяцев назад

    Gostei. No final vocês se divertiram. Até deu um sorriso 😊. Parabéns a você e seu filho. Brilhante trabalho 👍👍

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 2 года назад +11

    Apparently it makes the ultimate fog /smoke machine

  • @bobby_greene
    @bobby_greene 2 года назад +1

    I've never heard that you can put out an oil well fire with dynamite. It's not the first thing I learned out of this video, but probably the most counterintuitive

    • @among-us-99999
      @among-us-99999 2 года назад

      The Soviets have used nuclear bombs to extinguish those fires.

  • @HelloWorlds__JTS
    @HelloWorlds__JTS 2 года назад +8

    Constructive feedback for you:
    1- I assume you purposely avoided dubbing in a voiceover narration during the loud runs, but I am certain it would've made the video more engaging.
    2- I was anxiously waiting for you to explain the difference between optimizing for thrust versus power generation, e.g. in a turbine generator, but I don't think you did; or if you did, I had already zoned out by then.
    3- I would've also been much more engaged if you were comparing measured thrusts in your different versions using force transducers.
    Still a great show!

    • @SteveWyatt
      @SteveWyatt 2 года назад

      for power generation you are just utilizing the thrust differently. instead of a nozzle you would have your vanes that have a shaft that drives your generator rotor.

  • @texus7079
    @texus7079 Год назад

    Its amazing how much you have done (by your own experience, calculations and some guessing) to recreate an LM2500 GTE. I chuckled when you mentioned the sparks issue and adding in full on spark plugs as that was a major point in one of our training docs way back when. Very much enjoyed this episode 👍

  • @incorporeal3793
    @incorporeal3793 2 года назад +6

    Your neighbours must be very understanding folks, even those a mile away. 😬🙂

  • @ryanmacs2486
    @ryanmacs2486 2 года назад

    Thank you for the lessons. The ease of consuming your information is inspiring.

  • @alisioardiona727
    @alisioardiona727 2 года назад +10

    Impressive ! Have you mesured the thrust and ISP of this jet engine ?

  • @littleshopofelectrons4014
    @littleshopofelectrons4014 2 года назад +1

    I really like your engineering projects and the scientific explanations that you provide. I am a retired electrical engineer myself but I do occasionally dabble in the mechanical engineering side of things.

  • @allawa
    @allawa 2 года назад +8

    This dude is an absolute genius. What did you do in your past life?

  • @dustiestark9701
    @dustiestark9701 2 года назад

    I was at the airport in Wichita Falls, Texas, Summer of 1961. While I was there a B-58 "Hustler" Came rolling over the hill. It was a big airplane with a strange stance, front gear was really tall. He hit the gas and started rolling forward. Very loud only went about 100 yards and he pulled it up. Just then he hit the afterburner and went straight up like a rocket. The afterburner was a bright as an electric welder. Never forgot it. Thanks for your information on how all that works.

  • @mannye
    @mannye 2 года назад +19

    Hey Howard, will this turbo finally make my air conditioner cool my entire house? Just kidding. Love the videos. Hate that video. On the other hand, you have enough fans to actually make that happen.

    • @MakeItWithCalvin
      @MakeItWithCalvin 2 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 I had to re-read this, that was epic.

    • @mannye
      @mannye 2 года назад +1

      @@MakeItWithCalvin ha thanks
      I only did it because they are one of my favorite channels.

    • @MakeItWithCalvin
      @MakeItWithCalvin 2 года назад

      @@mannye Tech Grandpa is low key awesome. The dude knows his stuff but is very humble and down-to-earth on camera. I appreciate that!

    • @mannye
      @mannye 2 года назад +1

      @@MakeItWithCalvin Absolutely. I discovered his channel a couple/three years ago and it's just brilliant. This guy should have 100 million subs.

  • @parrisbradley
    @parrisbradley Год назад

    Fun to watch! I haven't a clue about all the science/math behind such endeavors, but I'm not looking to re-create in any shape or form. I just like watching machines and science! Maybe something along the lines of how they make rockets work!!

  • @l3d-3dmaker58
    @l3d-3dmaker58 2 года назад +7

    here early to boost engagement cause I love the channel!! we all know premieres are perfectly balanced (?

    • @YeaSeb.
      @YeaSeb. 2 года назад +1

      tea

    • @Relkond
      @Relkond 2 года назад

      Pretty sure he’s not on the tea drinking side of the puddle….

    • @l3d-3dmaker58
      @l3d-3dmaker58 2 года назад +1

      @@Relkond oh we know what tea stands for, perfectly balanced with no exploits whatsoever (?

  • @braelinmichelus
    @braelinmichelus 2 года назад

    Glad to see new videos on the Gas Turbine Engine series!
    Really anticipating it going multi-stage like you mentioned in the very beginning!

  • @cdribeiro82
    @cdribeiro82 2 года назад +3

    The fog juice could be a very good addition for the M1 Abrams. Since they use a jet engine too, the fog juice would add a tactical advantage in the battle field!

    • @shawncooke7991
      @shawncooke7991 2 года назад +4

      It already has a smoke generator

    • @cdribeiro82
      @cdribeiro82 2 года назад +2

      @@shawncooke7991 What i wanted to say is that the smoke generator wouldnt be necessary, since the engine itself could be the smoke generator

    • @shawncooke7991
      @shawncooke7991 2 года назад +2

      @@cdribeiro82 that’s how it works…injects fuel directly into the exhaust

  • @seijirou302
    @seijirou302 2 года назад

    I think I enjoyed every moment of this, almost as much as you did.

  • @ChrisDRimmer
    @ChrisDRimmer 2 года назад +9

    My hunch for why the jet fuel doesn’t autoignite is heat loss through vaporisation. I’d imagine when you introduce liquid fuel into the exhaust, it rapidly evaporates which could well reject enough heat for long enough that the exhaust gas stream just can’t get the added fuel to auto ignition point before it all escapes out of the nozzle. Perhaps with better atomisation it could work, as the surface area might allow enough heat transfer into the fuel to overcome the cooling, but that seems a difficult target to achieve even for serious engine makers!

    • @evil_me
      @evil_me 2 года назад +1

      Well shit I basically said the same thing as I did not see your comment earlier. 🤣

    • @TechIngredients
      @TechIngredients  2 года назад +2

      That's a pretty good theory.

    • @ChrisDRimmer
      @ChrisDRimmer 2 года назад

      Have you guys tried running gas for the reheat? If introducing something that’s already gas phase doesn’t work that would debunk my hypothesis pretty quickly!

    • @constantins.2981
      @constantins.2981 2 года назад

      You could achieve a better atomisation through increasing the fuel pressure, like its done in direct injection engines (petrol and diesel). Sometimes upwards of 200 bar or 2900 psi, but these pressures are hard to achieve.(in comertial diesel engines its usually done by a highpressure pump driven by a cam on the camshafts) and he uses the fuel pressure to regulate the amount of fuel deliverd. Cars solve this problem by only activating the injector for a short amount of time (pulsing) to get the right amount of fuel. If you could solve these technical difficulties you could make an autoignition afterburner work. But i dont think this is a resonable thing to build. Its only advantage would be that i could prove or disprove your thesis

    • @maeanderdev
      @maeanderdev 2 года назад

      If that is the case, a fuel preheater should work. If however the fuel needs to be preheated a lot that would be very hazardous

  • @FPVdronesIndia
    @FPVdronesIndia 2 года назад

    Dear Sir, I learn a lot from all your videos, and then today in this video you have answered a lot of my doubts that I have always had about turbojet engines.
    I really appreciate people like yourself and Agentjayz for sharing their knowledge on such engineering marvels.
    The videos you and Agentjayz make and share is a gift to mankind. Thankyou sir.

    • @TechIngredients
      @TechIngredients  2 года назад +1

      Thanks!

    • @lestergillis8171
      @lestergillis8171 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@TechIngredientsIt appears that my last comment didn't post.
      As far as what fuel to use in your afterburner, instead of rum, I highly recommend BOURBON, it's NOT just for breakfast anymore.😉😵‍💫

    • @lestergillis8171
      @lestergillis8171 5 месяцев назад

      Is that a"Lean-Mean skeeter killing machine"?🦟➡️☠️

  • @AurynGaming
    @AurynGaming 2 года назад +4

    Skip to about 35mins in to get to the point, audio is scuffy in the video but the end is good

  • @rb032682
    @rb032682 2 года назад +1

    good stuff. Looks like that would be a great dispersal method for anti-mosquito fog.
    For over 31 years I lived around the corner from Walt Arfons' jet shop. He made jet dragsters, jet dryers for racetracks, a jet powered bar stool, a wide variety of jet engine items.
    Every summer, I would be rudely awakened by a high-pitched whine followed by a large boom which rattled the windows. Eventually, I started working a regular day shift and wasn't as bothered by the jet testing at Walt's shop.

  • @carlscattergood4121
    @carlscattergood4121 2 года назад +6

    Flame grill a steak in under a second?!!😈

  • @justinkraus7784
    @justinkraus7784 2 года назад +1

    "I know a fair amount of engineering" the understatement of the century!

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 2 года назад +10

    This dude is in better shape than 90% of twentysomethings these days.

    • @swicked86
      @swicked86 2 года назад

      Stupid sexy Flanders!

    • @dandan-gf4jk
      @dandan-gf4jk 2 года назад

      MP should post his workout routine & diet :)

  • @quantumbitz3473
    @quantumbitz3473 2 года назад

    Don't know what I enjoyed more the build or your smiling face. Cheers!

  • @BentoGambin
    @BentoGambin 2 года назад +4

    Love the channel, but I hate RUclips Premieres

  • @AcidOllie
    @AcidOllie 2 года назад

    I can feel the force from where I am in the UK! Great work guys.

  • @rb3020
    @rb3020 2 года назад +14

    I would like to see more videos on turbine technology. Maybe a video on different fuels like hydrogen, common pump gas, oxyacetylene, 50%< alcohol... Etc!

  • @SamMonkulas
    @SamMonkulas 2 года назад

    No matter what you preached there Mr. Scien----tist, you enjoyed the last Fog part with a good music....... Awesome experiment.