@Mainframe 09 lol not at all. What you're getting is an extremely limited DIGITAL drum machine with a dated interface and unimpressive sounds. Might as well get a model cycles
This looks amazing. Though it hurts not to have your awesome formant filter and comb filter on this! I hope something similar can be added with the different synthesis types.
Well, technically you can. The outputs per channel on the backside, are actually insert points. You can take a channel out, route it trough some filters, effects, modular gear, ... and send it back in for panning and the main mix. And yes, maybe. We'll add more drum models in the future, so why not some formant filtered noise hits or something... Good idea!
I can't understand why people are complaining about the price to be honest. Unless you know: the cost of development, marketing, production costs, profit margins, willingness to use slave labor etc. of _this_ manufacturer, you've no idea how much this 'should cost'. Yes, it's more expensive than a loaf of bread. No, I can't afford to buy one right now. But hardware synths are a luxury item. If you already have a computer you can get all the software you need to make music, for FREE!!! If you've seen a drum machine you like that's cheap, then buy that and enjoy it instead of whining you can't afford this one.
The price is to be related to the characteristics of the DR-2. In my opinion, I find the sounds interesting, but 6 instrument tracks is totally insufficient to make a complete drum machine. No LFO, no FX, no parameter locks, a 128 step sequencer of course and inserts on the outputs are nice features, but really, I have the impression of seeing half of an Eleketron Machine Drum 15 years later. And yes for that price, you can afford a Jomox Alpha Base with more extensive sound design possibilities, more features, more channels, and it's a machine with analog circuitry that is also a boutique instrument. Nevertheless, I salute the work of Modor instrument who offers us a very orginal instrument, and that is a really good thing, but the price is not in line with what this (digital) drum machine offers.
@@Thirolls I agree to some extent with what you're saying, but I do have several objections that explain how we've come to different conclusions. When you say that the, "price is to be related to the characteristics," that's not unreasonable in a broad sense, but that's _your_ personal standard for evaluating the cost of the machine, for one thing. For another, who says which exact characteristics should be chosen? The maker is quite free to base their price on how beautiful they think it is, if they so chose, just as we're free not to buy one! In the world of digital cameras, at least one manufacturer of a pricey camera removed the back screen, offering less for more, on the theory that some folk value simplicity and nostalgia over and above certain presumably basic (modern) features. Finally, I'd question the sense in judging the instrument before having played one. You mention the Machine Drum, and I happen to have one sitting at my desk now. In my defense, it did have to sit in a storage room for several years untouched, but it did take me a very long time with it in my possession to really understand how it 'should' or could be used. Let's give this one a chance, it could be more interesting than a cursory glance at the specs might indicate.
@@mattsmith1440 I understand your point of view, but you have to keep one thing in mind: it's the consumer who chooses. And at this price, you don't have to be a diviner to know that it won't sell as well as the NF1. And yes, in our time, the price of a machine must be in adequacy with its characteristics. It has nothing to do with my personal expectations, but rather with the market and competition at equivalent prices. The DR-1 is neither a collector's machine nor a luxury instrument, it's a 6-channel digital drum machine with editing possibilities that I find limited compared to other machines at equivalent price, the same for automations... I read the manual and all is not bad in this instrument, but this price is not justified. Other small boutique manufacturers offer instruments with more capacity and at a lower price. Research and development is one thing, market research and pricing is another thing. Despite all this, I find the sound of the DR-1 as well as the algorithms very interesting, but I don't think it takes us beyond what an elektron machine drum can already do.
If youd put out these drum modules as separate eurorack modules youd have the best eurorack drums on the market... that kick and hihat is just amazing, wouldnt buy the whole maschine for them sadly..
Digital, 6 tracks, 1700 euros? Something is wrong here mate... Ridiculous price & machine doomed to fail commercially... EDIT: Just watched Kink demos, I'm really not impressed at all...
It sounds sooo good!!
Why is this so expensive? I'm genuinely curious. The price point seems ridiculous for what you're offering
@Mainframe 09 lol not at all. What you're getting is an extremely limited DIGITAL drum machine with a dated interface and unimpressive sounds. Might as well get a model cycles
I need one to pair with my NF-1!
hope they make a all in one device with synths drums sampling capability and so on
Six tracks?? 2020 6 digital tracks?)
1700 euros lol
I know right:p
@@Strepite 2100€ in France.
@@1980VINZ Lol, just no...
This looks amazing. Though it hurts not to have your awesome formant filter and comb filter on this! I hope something similar can be added with the different synthesis types.
Well, technically you can. The outputs per channel on the backside, are actually insert points. You can take a channel out, route it trough some filters, effects, modular gear, ... and send it back in for panning and the main mix.
And yes, maybe. We'll add more drum models in the future, so why not some formant filtered noise hits or something... Good idea!
@@ModorMusic Wow, they work as insert points? I missed that! Definitively interesting!
DR-2m please? Dank u... : )
I can't understand why people are complaining about the price to be honest.
Unless you know: the cost of development, marketing, production costs, profit margins, willingness to use slave labor etc. of _this_ manufacturer, you've no idea how much this 'should cost'.
Yes, it's more expensive than a loaf of bread. No, I can't afford to buy one right now. But hardware synths are a luxury item. If you already have a computer you can get all the software you need to make music, for FREE!!!
If you've seen a drum machine you like that's cheap, then buy that and enjoy it instead of whining you can't afford this one.
The price is to be related to the characteristics of the DR-2.
In my opinion, I find the sounds interesting, but 6 instrument tracks is totally insufficient to make a complete drum machine. No LFO, no FX, no parameter locks, a 128 step sequencer of course and inserts on the outputs are nice features, but really, I have the impression of seeing half of an Eleketron Machine Drum 15 years later.
And yes for that price, you can afford a Jomox Alpha Base with more extensive sound design possibilities, more features, more channels, and it's a machine with analog circuitry that is also a boutique instrument.
Nevertheless, I salute the work of Modor instrument who offers us a very orginal instrument, and that is a really good thing, but the price is not in line with what this (digital) drum machine offers.
@@Thirolls
I agree to some extent with what you're saying, but I do have several objections that explain how we've come to different conclusions. When you say that the, "price is to be related to the characteristics," that's not unreasonable in a broad sense, but that's _your_ personal standard for evaluating the cost of the machine, for one thing. For another, who says which exact characteristics should be chosen? The maker is quite free to base their price on how beautiful they think it is, if they so chose, just as we're free not to buy one!
In the world of digital cameras, at least one manufacturer of a pricey camera removed the back screen, offering less for more, on the theory that some folk value simplicity and nostalgia over and above certain presumably basic (modern) features. Finally, I'd question the sense in judging the instrument before having played one. You mention the Machine Drum, and I happen to have one sitting at my desk now. In my defense, it did have to sit in a storage room for several years untouched, but it did take me a very long time with it in my possession to really understand how it 'should' or could be used. Let's give this one a chance, it could be more interesting than a cursory glance at the specs might indicate.
@@mattsmith1440 I understand your point of view, but you have to keep one thing in mind: it's the consumer who chooses. And at this price, you don't have to be a diviner to know that it won't sell as well as the NF1.
And yes, in our time, the price of a machine must be in adequacy with its characteristics.
It has nothing to do with my personal expectations, but rather with the market and competition at equivalent prices. The DR-1 is neither a collector's machine nor a luxury instrument, it's a 6-channel digital drum machine with editing possibilities that I find limited compared to other machines at equivalent price, the same for automations...
I read the manual and all is not bad in this instrument, but this price is not justified. Other small boutique manufacturers offer instruments with more capacity and at a lower price. Research and development is one thing, market research and pricing is another thing.
Despite all this, I find the sound of the DR-1 as well as the algorithms very interesting, but I don't think it takes us beyond what an elektron machine drum can already do.
En lid van de pvda , super !
technology with a heart !!
If youd put out these drum modules as separate eurorack modules youd have the best eurorack drums on the market... that kick and hihat is just amazing, wouldnt buy the whole maschine for them sadly..
All you did was talk over it, if it was even playing at all?..
There's more over here... ;-)
ruclips.net/p/PLmsA7n0jHNuVTtizahwSqRHOG7m2m6Kjg
Digital, 6 tracks, 1700 euros? Something is wrong here mate... Ridiculous price & machine doomed to fail commercially... EDIT: Just watched Kink demos, I'm really not impressed at all...