Nice vid! The thing that I love about John Field is that every piece is very easy listening for the ears and full of melody. No piece in the 7 piano concertos, 4 piano sonatas, or 18 nocturnes is skippable. It's in that area between Mozart and Chopin. Another piece that is not completely minimalist but probably the most minimal and slow piece that I've heard pre-1900 is Charles-Valentin Alkan op. 31 #25 Priere: Lentement.
I wouldn't consider that to be minimalism at all (the Alkan) - Alkan had some pretty heavy dissonance and rhythms that predicted some 20th century kinds of music though. too bad he wasn't more recognized
@@MegaBubble what piece pre 1900 is more minimal and slower than this... ruclips.net/video/eKWw_3Wedhc/видео.html I'm sure there are some out there, but I haven't come across it.
Can’t wait for the John Field episode. I recently picked up an old G. Schirmer edition of his nocturnes edited by none other than Franz Liszt, from a used book store.
Great news is I already have it filmed! I just need to edit it. So as long as I didn't mess anything up too bad it should be one of the next couple videos I put out.
About the pedal for the first piece, there's a lot of evidence that Haydn's later piano sonatas were written with pedal in mind (although technically this didn't start until his visit to London in 1791, and this sonata was written in 1789, but I digress) so using the pedal isn't as historically inaccurate as say, using it for a baroque keyboard composition
You're dead right about Beethoven; he is awesome. Soemtimes I get a little fed up with him and explore other composers but after a few months I always come back to Beethoven.
you can probably make this video with just late beethoven. Sonata no. 32 famously has its little boogie woogie moment, (among its other forsights) Grosse Fuge, perhaps Beethoven's greatest masterpiece, almost feels modernist
This is correct. Go and look at his works from the very early 1900’s. Literally using jazz chords and concepts like tritone substitute before jazz. #11 altered dominant chords etc. his Mystic Chord is the V13 flat 5 sharp 11 in jazz theory. Using seventh chords as consonant sounds.
Scriabin also predicted the end of the world and the universe collapsing in on itself which didn't happen but he predicted it right before ww1 and the Russian revolution so in a sense he was kind of right
@@HowardS185 glad you found it. I've had typos before and I'm always afraid of putting the wrong title/number when dragging around clips in the editor.
Hey there, it's a Yamaha P70. Honestly, a pretty bad sound through the main speakers and bad touch, haha, so I don't recommend it. But the direct input I use to the mic sounds great so if you use it for similar purposes as I do it's not bad.
I'll go real old school and use B-Flat from now on. But in seriousness, I'm not brave enough for that for the times when someone's device can't handle those characters. "Man, I love Beethovens C&$&%(×[-,' Sonata" 🤣
My favourite example of this is the gigue from the fifth French Suite (in G.) It out-rednecks any and every jig that ever followed it, yet it never devolves into trashiness.
Nice vid! The thing that I love about John Field is that every piece is very easy listening for the ears and full of melody. No piece in the 7 piano concertos, 4 piano sonatas, or 18 nocturnes is skippable. It's in that area between Mozart and Chopin. Another piece that is not completely minimalist but probably the most minimal and slow piece that I've heard pre-1900 is Charles-Valentin Alkan op. 31 #25 Priere: Lentement.
I wouldn't consider that to be minimalism at all (the Alkan) - Alkan had some pretty heavy dissonance and rhythms that predicted some 20th century kinds of music though. too bad he wasn't more recognized
@@MegaBubble what piece pre 1900 is more minimal and slower than this... ruclips.net/video/eKWw_3Wedhc/видео.html I'm sure there are some out there, but I haven't come across it.
@@willy9t the tempo is slow, but it's not a minimalist piece
Look into Clementi, who was predicting Beethoven’s middle-period style in the 1790s.
Beethoven definitely drew some influence from Clementi's style, no doubt
Can’t wait for the John Field episode. I recently picked up an old G. Schirmer edition of his nocturnes edited by none other than Franz Liszt, from a used book store.
Great news is I already have it filmed! I just need to edit it. So as long as I didn't mess anything up too bad it should be one of the next couple videos I put out.
You should check out “In futurum” by Erwin Schulhoff. It anticipates John Cage’s 4’33” by 30 years!
About the pedal for the first piece, there's a lot of evidence that Haydn's later piano sonatas were written with pedal in mind (although technically this didn't start until his visit to London in 1791, and this sonata was written in 1789, but I digress) so using the pedal isn't as historically inaccurate as say, using it for a baroque keyboard composition
I recommend to listen to Mozart's gigue, it sounds like Shostakovich.
It does
so does the opening of the dissonance quartet
You're dead right about Beethoven; he is awesome. Soemtimes I get a little fed up with him and explore other composers but after a few months I always come back to Beethoven.
you can probably make this video with just late beethoven.
Sonata no. 32 famously has its little boogie woogie moment, (among its other forsights)
Grosse Fuge, perhaps Beethoven's greatest masterpiece, almost feels modernist
You forgot the most important musical prediction, Scriabin, who predicted the harmonic language of jazz
This is correct. Go and look at his works from the very early 1900’s. Literally using jazz chords and concepts like tritone substitute before jazz. #11 altered dominant chords etc. his Mystic Chord is the V13 flat 5 sharp 11 in jazz theory. Using seventh chords as consonant sounds.
Scriabin also predicted the end of the world and the universe collapsing in on itself which didn't happen but he predicted it right before ww1 and the Russian revolution so in a sense he was kind of right
Hi, what do u think abt Chopin’s 2nd sonata 4th mvt
very interesting
I'm confused, I wanted to hear more, so I looked this up in Apple music. It's not the the sonata your playing. What am I doing wrong?
Nevermind. I got it. The beginning of the second met threw me
@@HowardS185 glad you found it. I've had typos before and I'm always afraid of putting the wrong title/number when dragging around clips in the editor.
Hey Ryan, what keyboard are u using for ur vids? Thanks!
Hey there, it's a Yamaha P70. Honestly, a pretty bad sound through the main speakers and bad touch, haha, so I don't recommend it. But the direct input I use to the mic sounds great so if you use it for similar purposes as I do it's not bad.
@ryanabshier ahh I see. In that case, what keyboard would you recommend? Should/ can classical music be played on a digital piano?
Chopin sonata 2 mvt 4 💀
HAHA I just commented this before I read ur comment
Nikolai Medtner invented jazz rythms way before jazz started
One can find pieces or passages of Bach that emulate virtually any prior or later composer...!
p.s., downvotes until you learn how to type ♭ & ♯.
I'll go real old school and use B-Flat from now on.
But in seriousness, I'm not brave enough for that for the times when someone's device can't handle those characters. "Man, I love Beethovens C&$&%(×[-,' Sonata" 🤣
@@ryanabshier 1. No devices will have problems.
2. We're talking about text in a video...!
My favourite example of this is the gigue from the fifth French Suite (in G.) It out-rednecks any and every jig that ever followed it, yet it never devolves into trashiness.