Been using the fire ant armor set with the rusty spear to get stacking reduced armor since going into upperyard. Javelineer mutation stacks with corrosion. Acid damage works on all acid effects. Keyword effect. This means it gives corrosion status effect some damage. I have killed enemies by blocking with the fire ant shield which only procs corrosion. So acid damage procs on corrosion and acid splash. The best way to test corrosion, infection, and other staus effects is on other players. The reason is because you can see the duration and info of status effects on the player being hit.
The Acorn and Roly Poly armor only makes it so that enemies are more likely to target you when they have multiple choices. If you're playing solo it has basically no effect unless your are trying to let 2 insects fight one another(You can still do this though, might just take an extra hit from one of the insects). In coop insects will still attack other players a lot because attacking an enemy also increases your threat. Wearing these sets is bascically as if you already hit the enemies a few times before the fight. There is no real downside to wearing these sets but there is no significant upside either in solo play.
just want to point out that when you were testing the mantis armor, that black ox beetle wasnt taking damage from the bleed effect, it was taking damage from the fire ants attacking it. 11:44
The Black Ox armor can basically cause stun locks if you use it with the Brood Mother Club and mutation. It is also for the Reckless attacking play style. The set is meant for you to stand your ground and bash bugs over the head, also it allows you to go ham when your Barbarian Mutation Procs
@@Overtaken502 way harder i remember testing the weird timing and I was fighting a black widow and I blocked almost before it even attacked and it was a perry
The thing to note with the poison build is that the 2 higher teir weapons that apply poison are daggers and if you are using the dagger mutation you will also be applying bleed with them as well
Found out we can block cancel the spicy staff to just unload a quick volley of little blasts. Worked pretty well on broodmother. The spicy pool where they land + the ranged bleed from moth chestpiece works pretty well for damage over time.
I've been using the Mask of the Mother demon with the sleek upgrade, and sleek black widow shoulders and leggings. The poison nova attack does a pretty significant hit of damage and procs fairly frequently.
With the moth armour I think you were testing the wrong thing. With the bonus to movement after landing a ranged attack, it looks like the armour was designed for skirmishing, attacking with a ranged weapon while keeping out of reach of the enemy. It would have been nice to see how well it works for that.
The black ox armor is OP for using the mixer weapon that is in the black ant hill. Because the weapon does a lightning attack every charged attack so you can make a "Thor build"
The aggro thing you are worried about I think it comes with the heavy armors like acorn and rolly polly basically has no affect in solo play. Everything is already entirely focused on you. So what does it matter that everything wants to focus on you.
personally, i like using any spear with crit (stinger) with black ant armor then using coup de gras, parry master, and the spear one for the extra damage, the crit chance and since the crit after block (armor buff)
The mask of the mother demon + black widow shinguards and chest piece are incredible. Full black widow set is probably better for single targets, but for large groups the novas from the mask are super helpful. Pair this with upgraded widow dagger in whatever element for the enemies your fighting and everything dies super quick. Just hit the enemy a few times to apply each bleed stack plus additional stacks from the occasional novas/ perfect blocks. If your dealing with large groups the poison buildup will let you turn towards other enemies while the poison finishes the others off for you
@@darkdraco02 the only thing that got changed was spiders being immune to poison damage, so for them ya your gonna need a different strategy. But for every other enemy in the game it's still super strong
@@polara5787 I think they just made it so that spiders are affected by poison on a sliding scale. I am pretty sure only widows and maybe brood mother are immune. But wolf spiders might as well be, and the rest are still resistant, but they still take it. I've not done much testing myself, but the changelog seemed to suggest it the other day.
@@nikopaseman7147 ya I just saw that change too. I still mainly just swap to my coaltana when I fight spiders, but maybe my poison build will still work for the majority of them too
@@lordtakashii bulky broodmother for multiplayer/ nova for solo. But that + widow chest and legs with an ant shield(doesn't look as good as lady bird but corrosion/poison on parry is gross) and a spear/dagger for dot/armor debuff. Apex the broodmother mace and its alot of poison dmg.
My tier 2 build was full black ant armor and shield with the stinger spear. Cou de grass and trapper. After a single block I was getting crits very consistently (every 3-4 attacks) on a fast attacking weapon. The crits would also stagger the enemy sometimes cancelling their attacks. Definitely feel like it was worth it
The prood smacker and the black ox armour both takes use of the stun and charged attack bonus from the armour, if you combo it with the mutation called shocking dismissal, you get even more use.
The kio fish armor is for if you're bad a getting the timing right for parrying because it will increase the parry window, also acorn is my starter armor because it's bug attraction doesn't change much at all
My setup is Black Widow armor + dagger/club of the mother demon for all mobs except spiders. Then use fire ant armor for all spider type mobs. What's great about the BW set and dagger is you can get extra tic damage from dagger perk, plus daggers swing very fast for little stamina which means more chances to crit or spawn spiderlings or Mant.
@@JaggyRS yeah i realized it only appers seldom and stays about 2-3 seconds XD,... switched it out really early after initial tries (but didnt know it has a chance per hit)
@@JaggyRS Mom's genes spawn pretty often. Mant doesn't though I find it spawns more often when I use BM club for some reason. But I use mom genes for the aggro and slight extra dmg. With a dagger build, I usually get about 3-5 spiders to spawn on a tanky mob. Works excellent against a Black Widow.
@@JaggyRS Mant has recently been buffed in the last patch. It does pretty decent damage. But yeah, the spawn chance is fairly low. But when it spawns, it pretty much aggro w/e you're attacking, not to mention stuns them right away.
@@JaggyRS I don't use Meat shield or buff lungs, I am pretty good at perfect blocking, and when you're in Max out T3 gear nothing one shoots you even if you miss, and yeah I play on Whoa! I use Coup, Tracker, Assassin (if using daggers), Apex only if I plan to use BM Club and Mantis Scythe, and Mithridatism if I am fighting BWs, for wolves Nah, they're easy even if they get a hit on me and if they do it's just 1 unlucky hit. So once again, I use the spiders for fun, sometimes Mant for fun, but the thing is when you're capable of perfect blocking just about everything it's a cakewalk. Hell, I've even fought BWs and out of the dozens of fights maybe one killed me (The first one) and the others will be lucky to hit me once or twice. I forgot to say I do have max health perks, which is another reason why i don't use max health mutations, but even early game I didn't use it much, I really only use it when I am fighting mantis. But to be honest, the only mutations that are really worth it is Coup, & Tracker, Apex if you're using BM Club or Mantis Scythe, and Mithridatism if fighting BWs. The rest are subpar and just used for added effects.
its unfortunate that out of all the armour in the game, I still use lady bug armour with compliance badge and a lvl 9 mighty broodmother club... theres nothing I cant kill and survive with ease. I think some of the DOT effects on other armour needs a buff to make them more attractive.
I know this is completely off topic but I honestly think what the combat system is sorely missing is a way to block attacks while using a bow. Right now the wife and I are having an incredibly hard time killing any flying enemies because you basically have to use a bow to kill them reliably. So when they do attack you there is no way to block the damage because as of right now you CANNOT switch weapons while your bow is reloading. If they would just change that fact and make it so you can switch weapons before you bow reloads if would solve all the issues honestly.
please differantiate between CROSSbow and bow,... so confusing your comment. But yeah crossbow animation while reloading sucks because it cant be canceled. I am totally on your side, so dont misunderstand my comment XD
Well, no, there are two handed weapons you can't use a shield w so why would you get to use a shield w a bow!? I've never seen or heard of using a shield w a bow...
@@corneliusagrippa4613 you can block with a two handed weapon. I'm not saying we should be able to hold a shield. Just be able to block just like with any other weapon, or be able to switch weapons before the crossbow reloads.
@@thisismelsemail1217 Blocking with the bow/crossbow would be so OP IMO, but you shoul be able to swap the crossbow without reloading, mosquitos are annoyng AF mate.
They also force you to reload which makes no sense. We should be able to shoot the bow, switch weapons, and then reload after switching back to bow. If we can't block with the bow, then they should probably tweak that.
Pretty sure now poison coating from the mask of the broodmother stacks with the widow daggers poison plush the poison novas poison from the masks sleek upgrade plus parry poison all stack. And they all also get amlified by the widow armour so it melts now
I was able to fully stunlock the director by using full sleek mantis with the weapon. I ran apex, buff lungs, cardio fan, coup, and assassin (I know the bleed doesn't work). And with it I was able to crit enough to stun him before he could summon any mobs or turn on any lasers.
I've been using the fire ant armour. It's a great all rounder armour think. And so happy about the durability being Double I was going though a set of armour daily so I think that was much needed. Also I use the mint staff lvl 9 and the wizard hat to kill ladybirds, it kills them pretty quick. It's not the quickest but it's a fun fight.
i think black ox armor is actually pretty solid. it's designed to be used with charge attacks, but those take a long time to wind-up, leaving you very vulnerable to damage (unless you plan to cancel your attacks over-and-over again until you get a perfect window). some enemies will cancel your charge-up with their attacks, but it seems like the vast majority of them won't. increasing the stun further alleviates potential sources of damage, giving you even more leeway to focus on dealing damage. it's not the craziest or most skill-intensive set but i'd say it's a perfectly good option. combining it with the prod smacker is a really good cheese strat, allowing you to practically stunlock certain enemies like the infected wolf spider and the broodmother. i feel like this will be addressed in the future, but i think it's worth giving a shot before then.
i never realized what the charging means? is it when you hold att button for longer time? whats the benefit of doing so? only good on the third att of combo?
@@sebastianscherer6897 i think its the same amount of damage as the third attack of a combo? im not totally sure if there's any real benefit to it without this set
I've been using black ant with the broodmother mask. Stack a lot of crit and damages. I'll swap out the mask for wizard hat if I'm going to use the staff a lot but I still usually just stick to the brood mask.
widow chest and legs with mask of the mother demon is insane. Bleed from assassin mutation, poison from the dagger plus widow armor, Extra poison from poison nova. This combo carried me through the endgame melting all enemies and bosses.
I started using the poison build I have black widow feet, chest, and then I have the brood mother mask paired with the black widow dagger all maxed except the dagger and I’m one tier away and it absolutely melts and even when you’re not hitting an enemy it still slowly takes their health down
Theres a secret thing about the fire ant armor i havnt seen anyone use the acid it can shoot out counts as an unarmed attack for some reason so that means it can trigger truffle tussle
A good combo (ONLY IF UR PLAYING SOLO) for anything thats not a spider is sleek upgraded termite, mask of the mother demon, and, and any good shinguards because poison nova and dust cloud can help for a solid bar of damage depending on the insect (poison coating is whats broken but poisen nova works perfectly fine i saw a video of someone using it during the newest update and it was working)
That’s what I’ve been running. Fire ant armor/shield + rusty spear + javelineer mutation. The debuffs you’re able to hand out to enemies is outstanding for survivability and killing capabilities.
Currently running an early-mid game poison build. Running fully upgraded rot spear and brood helm. Using the rotten berry charm. Gives double proc of poison, plus red ant shield. Using spider armor, since I have yet to kill a Widow.
1 other thing that applies bleed is the assassin mutation - Daggers apply bleed. There for you could test by applying bleed with feather arrows and then slashing with a bone knife and see if the bleed tick increases
Personally I've been using a mix. Broodmother mask with fire and chest and moth legs along with fire ant shield. Mostly use bow but have the shield for use with the rust spear. The damage over time effects in the game don't seem that great alone but I feel like mixing them and adding in things like corrosion really does seem to add up
On the fire ant armour if u use it it's best to have Javelineer mutation at level 3 with the rusty spear because javelineer mutation increases the chance to lower defense of enemies and the rusty spear has infection which with every hit it lowers defense and makes them slower
Infection slows attack speed and lower attack damage. It makes very fast attack bugs slower and slow bugs really slow while making attacks not that powerful.
Been using sleek Spider armor with the Broodmother mask and the widow Dagger (I'll replace the spider armor with the widow armor when I can) and I can hit most bugs with 3 or 4 hits and my Poison will kill them after. I love the build.
Each individual poison source does more damage, so poison with motmd with widow dagger adds poison coating, nova, and widow dagger poison, each one of those count as individual poison
this is just speculation, but I feel the black ox armor is more for a slow heavy hitting weapon like the clubs and maces. the play style would be more of a hit and run kind of tactic where you charge up your attack and hit once and run away or block an attack. though it doesnt really make it more useful though since you want to do a 3 hit combo most of the time and I dont think there is an enemy that only has small opening where you can only attack once. maybe against flying enemies? not sure.
Coup de grass tier 2 plus trapper peeper on top of what ever smoothies you have… using a weapon like the a sword or dagger with a crit/shield build is definitely viable
It should also be mentioned that with poison builds all poison effects are unique so you can stack 5-6 different poisons on an enemy if you are carrying all 3 poison daggers, both poison arrow types, and the broodmother mask. The DPS is actually crazy when you add all of them together makes it dumb easy to solo beefy enemies.
fire ant armor sleek with the spear feels REALLY good For the poison build, try out mom genes and the brood mother trinket, its feels pretty good :) (with the same armor and weapon you had on)
I pair the black ox armor with the two handed robot arm thingy cuz it does a Shockwave with crazy aoe stun plus the stun bonus and charge bonus it's great for the Tully raid thing
When you use the mask of the brood mother or anything else that has +poison, does it work on any weapon or only weapons that had poison on it to begin with like the club of the mother demon?
Are there any new traps ? My brother and I are playing on woah difficulty and we're trying to make a lethal food trap for farming aphids and weevils. Sure the non lethal trap works but it's not as efficient for mass farming.
After some testing, the best all-around set I've found is the Broodmother Mask (sleek) and the Mantis chest and legs (sleek as well), with the Club of the Mother Demon as your default weapon (mine is mighty level 7 or something, but upgrade as you see fit). Apex Predator, Coup De Grass 2, and Mom Genes mutation. I can take down a Black Ox Beetle in 1 or 2 combos... sometimes not even that much if you get a lucky proc and get all 3 status effects on a mob. Something satisfying about swinging a few times and then backing off and watching the enemy melt from Bleed/Poison/Venom stacks. The poison cloud procs are nice aoe effects, the club can hit multiple bugs at once, and even the ladybirds (tier 2 black ladybug things) die in a single combo. One of those "best defense is a good offense" things lol
So what I'm getting from the difference between bleed and poison is that: poison can do more damage but it doesn't affect everything, while bleed doesn't do that much damage but affects everything (maybe excluding black widow)
Yeah even though the prod smacker got nerfed (there is a glitch to get it but they should have just patched that instead of nerf) if you're playing on mild or medium it does a really good amount of damage when spamming charged attacks
I feel like testing the armors only bases on raw damage output defeats the point. Most of the bonuses actually are useful either in groups or while getting attacked can actually get you hurt
Apex predator with the club of the mother demon, mask, and widow chest and legs does a really good poison build become apex predator usually is applying poison and white poison stacks can kill an ox beetle from 25%
While it's definitely not what I think they should prioritize, I would love more "full coverage" variants of them. Right now, it's hard to achieve an aesthetic when it only covers like 10% of the teen. I'd love to really embrace the inner insect, and cover all the default 90s outfit with the armor.
If I remember correctly, Black Ant Armor used to be heavy armor and have increased stun for the piece bonus. Roly Poly Armor attracts enemies, so I used to swap between the Black Ant Armor and the Roly Poly Armor. Now, it doesn't seem as good as it used to. They should definitely change the Black Ant Armor back to heavy armor because right now it feels like the Ladybug Armor is better.
After fully maxing the roly poly armor I take nearly no damage. Even on my solo build i use stronger melee weapons, plus with Sara’s charm and being able to master my perfect blocking and using coup de grass I never have to repair the weapon or sheild
I've been using mask of the mother demon with fire ant chest and legs and it's been doing really well. The damage from the mask and debuff from the fire ant armor as well as using fire ant shield.
They buffed Clover gear, it now reduces damage from "Tier 1 creatures" by 5% per piece, making Mites, Soldier Ants, Larvae, and other creatures basically harmless to you. Inversely, I think Grub Armor now provides a 5% damage boost per piece to those creatures. I play permadeath, and the Clover Gear helps me survive on Whoa until I get to Ladybug Armor around day 4.
How does the widow armour stack up with venom arrows/super venom arrows? they should apply poison and have pretty powerful hits, so might be something there?
Rolly polly armor is just a tank build it doesnt have any defects other than being heaving armor, consuming more stamina. And the sleek version makes it even better with stronger blocking strength and with the ladybird shield you dont take damage from bugs except for bosses. Best combo is definitely assassin chest plate with rolly poly leggings and the mask of the motherdemon with apex predator makes the scythe super crazy
Use all the poison weapons (spider fang, widow dagger, lavra sword, rotten lavra sword, and the club of the mother demon with apex predator) with the armor all stacks up and melts bugs. That might be a big but that is how I saw it done. If it is intensional that makes poison good
I use one piece black ant with two piece Koi. All leveled sleek, for increased block window and hyperstamina after block(crit). This with blademaster and mighty tick sword is very good everywhere (if you're perfect blocking)
1 thing i never tried yet . Is a perfect block build with the mutation that release lightning. + spear for lower resist . and watch if you can kill tier 3 stuff by only blocking hahaha
I actually love the roly poly armor as a solo player. If only for the massive amount of defense it provides. Also i really wish this game had an option to show hitsplats. I'd love to be able to see a number amount when I hit things.
I love the role poly armour in single player because just tier 5 or 6 helped me beat the mant first try and when I needed too it helped me kill black ox beetles
It's worth mentioning, mask of the mother demon, and termite armor are medium and light armors with the resistance of heavy and medium armor, so you use less stamina for more resistance.
Can you do a video like this for the weapons I've been stuck on the tiger mosquito sword because it's most appealing to me but I think I could find a better weapon for what I want
Just so you know , you can't test any status damage effect ON hit in creative mod since it does t proc. Tried poison build , wasnt working in creative but when in a normal game, they work greats. fire ant armor + any fast weapon to procs status / widow dagguer + full spider set means you can kill any bugs in 3 sec . Black ant + coup de grace + javelineer + bee spear . perfect block into mass crit. all of those doesnt work in creative from what i know :)
poison and/or bleed works best with heavy swinging weapons, not so much with fast swinging weapons by the time DoT does any significant damage bug already is dead. poison/bleed makes up for the fact heavy weapons not doing much between swings and stamina recovery/exhaustion while doing devastating damage, stun, and follow-ups. does not seem like much, but a makes a huge difference in damage economy per swing/smash for heavy weapons, like its almost an instant death to mid to small enemies especially with crits.
quick question because I can't test it myself without spoilering me with the mantis fight. When I pair the assassin armor and the scythe with the coup de grass , trapper peep.r and apex predator mutation isn't this really strong? I will be able to hit really fast, therefore triggering crits consistently. With the Armor bonuses and the trapper mutation the crits do more damage and proc even more frequently thanks to the set bonus Anyone tested this combination out? seemes to be the only mindfull combo right now for me sadly cause all other armor pieces are pretty trash in my eyes
Sleek Ladybug armor is the GOAT IMHO. Pair it with the heal on parry badge and a good shield and a fast weapon like the toenail Scimitar you become unconquerable!
I use the roly poly armor the mint mace and the tick machete and the ice staff maxed out with the ladybird shield on medium difficulty solo and it's a pretty good build
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Been using the fire ant armor set with the rusty spear to get stacking reduced armor since going into upperyard. Javelineer mutation stacks with corrosion. Acid damage works on all acid effects. Keyword effect. This means it gives corrosion status effect some damage. I have killed enemies by blocking with the fire ant shield which only procs corrosion. So acid damage procs on corrosion and acid splash. The best way to test corrosion, infection, and other staus effects is on other players. The reason is because you can see the duration and info of status effects on the player being hit.
I use the roly poly armor and the tick sword
How much damage does this build do?
Definitely agree, I love using the spear with the armor and javilineer mutation
Does it work on the boss under the orc castle ?
Does posion count as acid damage?
The Acorn and Roly Poly armor only makes it so that enemies are more likely to target you when they have multiple choices. If you're playing solo it has basically no effect unless your are trying to let 2 insects fight one another(You can still do this though, might just take an extra hit from one of the insects). In coop insects will still attack other players a lot because attacking an enemy also increases your threat. Wearing these sets is bascically as if you already hit the enemies a few times before the fight. There is no real downside to wearing these sets but there is no significant upside either in solo play.
just want to point out that when you were testing the mantis armor, that black ox beetle wasnt taking damage from the bleed effect, it was taking damage from the fire ants attacking it. 11:44
Yeah the effect is broken as of now they are working on fixing it
Good eye buckaboo
i was just about to mention that lol
Glad someone has mentioned it. I was like hmmm this isn't ticking consistently, then noticed the ant biting the beetle.
The Black Ox armor can basically cause stun locks if you use it with the Brood Mother Club and mutation. It is also for the Reckless attacking play style. The set is meant for you to stand your ground and bash bugs over the head, also it allows you to go ham when your Barbarian Mutation Procs
Yep lol was so mad when he just wrote it off as pointless
Black Ox with the rage mutation has been 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
The charge attack daze from black ox is probably geared for people using the barbarian mutation, which disables perfect blocking.
Barbarian actually just desynchronizes perfect blocking, so the timing is off, meaning that you can still perfect block, it just makes it harder.
@@Overtaken502 way harder i remember testing the weird timing and I was fighting a black widow and I blocked almost before it even attacked and it was a perry
@@mr.marshmallow882 wow that is a serious off timing
@@Overtaken502 yeah if your rely on partying a lot like me barbarian is basically useless idk why they even changed it
omg this is why i suck at blocking now.
The thing to note with the poison build is that the 2 higher teir weapons that apply poison are daggers and if you are using the dagger mutation you will also be applying bleed with them as well
Found out we can block cancel the spicy staff to just unload a quick volley of little blasts. Worked pretty well on broodmother. The spicy pool where they land + the ranged bleed from moth chestpiece works pretty well for damage over time.
sounds potent, and spicy
I'm currently still on Eyepatch + Koi Armor, working on the Tiger Mos-cute-o Needle for my backyard pirate style. :D
You should definitely do a Weapon Tier List since there are new from the grounde 1.0 release!
There aren't that many new weapons
The tick sword is good the rusty spear sucks the widow dagger sucks the battle axe sucks
The tick sword in my opinion is the new best sword I have used. But I haven’t used the toenail scimitar or rusty spear
@@yellowrinnegan9991 rusty spear and toenail scimitar are pretty good use use both more then the tick sword.
@@yellowrinnegan9991 rusty spear is the worst tier 3
I've been using the Mask of the Mother demon with the sleek upgrade, and sleek black widow shoulders and leggings. The poison nova attack does a pretty significant hit of damage and procs fairly frequently.
imho only good in solo playing, otherwise the damage to a teammate is criminally high XD
@@sebastianscherer6897 absolutely. Lol
With the moth armour I think you were testing the wrong thing. With the bonus to movement after landing a ranged attack, it looks like the armour was designed for skirmishing, attacking with a ranged weapon while keeping out of reach of the enemy. It would have been nice to see how well it works for that.
The black ox armor is OP for using the mixer weapon that is in the black ant hill. Because the weapon does a lightning attack every charged attack so you can make a "Thor build"
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The aggro thing you are worried about I think it comes with the heavy armors like acorn and rolly polly basically has no affect in solo play. Everything is already entirely focused on you. So what does it matter that everything wants to focus on you.
personally, i like using any spear with crit (stinger) with black ant armor then using coup de gras, parry master, and the spear one for the extra damage, the crit chance and since the crit after block (armor buff)
The mask of the mother demon + black widow shinguards and chest piece are incredible. Full black widow set is probably better for single targets, but for large groups the novas from the mask are super helpful. Pair this with upgraded widow dagger in whatever element for the enemies your fighting and everything dies super quick. Just hit the enemy a few times to apply each bleed stack plus additional stacks from the occasional novas/ perfect blocks. If your dealing with large groups the poison buildup will let you turn towards other enemies while the poison finishes the others off for you
Is it still viable after the poison Nerf ?
@@darkdraco02 the only thing that got changed was spiders being immune to poison damage, so for them ya your gonna need a different strategy. But for every other enemy in the game it's still super strong
@@polara5787 oh......cool. I usually just shot them with the ox bow or block canceled the spicy staff to kill them.
@@polara5787 I think they just made it so that spiders are affected by poison on a sliding scale. I am pretty sure only widows and maybe brood mother are immune. But wolf spiders might as well be, and the rest are still resistant, but they still take it. I've not done much testing myself, but the changelog seemed to suggest it the other day.
@@nikopaseman7147 ya I just saw that change too. I still mainly just swap to my coaltana when I fight spiders, but maybe my poison build will still work for the majority of them too
Fire ant + fire ant shield + rusty spear/toenail scimitar are great as a debuff off tank spec for bosses and general roaming.
i was using mask of broodmother + fire ant shield + rusty spear and it melts, i kinda wish broodmother mask would stay this way , its pretty damn good
@@lordtakashii bulky broodmother for multiplayer/ nova for solo. But that + widow chest and legs with an ant shield(doesn't look as good as lady bird but corrosion/poison on parry is gross) and a spear/dagger for dot/armor debuff. Apex the broodmother mace and its alot of poison dmg.
“Red ant armor is good for going through the red anthill”
Me: *inside the entrance of the hill with like 30 dead ants around me.* “wait what?”
My tier 2 build was full black ant armor and shield with the stinger spear. Cou de grass and trapper. After a single block I was getting crits very consistently (every 3-4 attacks) on a fast attacking weapon. The crits would also stagger the enemy sometimes cancelling their attacks. Definitely feel like it was worth it
@@charliehodgkinson7179 dew it!
I think the ox armour debuff is meant for coop play.
So your tank takes less damage.
The prood smacker and the black ox armour both takes use of the stun and charged attack bonus from the armour, if you combo it with the mutation called shocking dismissal, you get even more use.
The kio fish armor is for if you're bad a getting the timing right for parrying because it will increase the parry window, also acorn is my starter armor because it's bug attraction doesn't change much at all
My setup is Black Widow armor + dagger/club of the mother demon for all mobs except spiders. Then use fire ant armor for all spider type mobs. What's great about the BW set and dagger is you can get extra tic damage from dagger perk, plus daggers swing very fast for little stamina which means more chances to crit or spawn spiderlings or Mant.
is there a chance to spawn one for every hit you do?
@@JaggyRS yeah i realized it only appers seldom and stays about 2-3 seconds XD,... switched it out really early after initial tries (but didnt know it has a chance per hit)
@@JaggyRS Mom's genes spawn pretty often. Mant doesn't though I find it spawns more often when I use BM club for some reason. But I use mom genes for the aggro and slight extra dmg. With a dagger build, I usually get about 3-5 spiders to spawn on a tanky mob. Works excellent against a Black Widow.
@@JaggyRS Mant has recently been buffed in the last patch. It does pretty decent damage. But yeah, the spawn chance is fairly low. But when it spawns, it pretty much aggro w/e you're attacking, not to mention stuns them right away.
@@JaggyRS I don't use Meat shield or buff lungs, I am pretty good at perfect blocking, and when you're in Max out T3 gear nothing one shoots you even if you miss, and yeah I play on Whoa! I use Coup, Tracker, Assassin (if using daggers), Apex only if I plan to use BM Club and Mantis Scythe, and Mithridatism if I am fighting BWs, for wolves Nah, they're easy even if they get a hit on me and if they do it's just 1 unlucky hit. So once again, I use the spiders for fun, sometimes Mant for fun, but the thing is when you're capable of perfect blocking just about everything it's a cakewalk. Hell, I've even fought BWs and out of the dozens of fights maybe one killed me (The first one) and the others will be lucky to hit me once or twice.
I forgot to say I do have max health perks, which is another reason why i don't use max health mutations, but even early game I didn't use it much, I really only use it when I am fighting mantis. But to be honest, the only mutations that are really worth it is Coup, & Tracker, Apex if you're using BM Club or Mantis Scythe, and Mithridatism if fighting BWs. The rest are subpar and just used for added effects.
its unfortunate that out of all the armour in the game, I still use lady bug armour with compliance badge and a lvl 9 mighty broodmother club... theres nothing I cant kill and survive with ease.
I think some of the DOT effects on other armour needs a buff to make them more attractive.
I know this is completely off topic but I honestly think what the combat system is sorely missing is a way to block attacks while using a bow. Right now the wife and I are having an incredibly hard time killing any flying enemies because you basically have to use a bow to kill them reliably. So when they do attack you there is no way to block the damage because as of right now you CANNOT switch weapons while your bow is reloading. If they would just change that fact and make it so you can switch weapons before you bow reloads if would solve all the issues honestly.
please differantiate between CROSSbow and bow,... so confusing your comment. But yeah crossbow animation while reloading sucks because it cant be canceled. I am totally on your side, so dont misunderstand my comment XD
Well, no, there are two handed weapons you can't use a shield w so why would you get to use a shield w a bow!? I've never seen or heard of using a shield w a bow...
@@corneliusagrippa4613 you can block with a two handed weapon. I'm not saying we should be able to hold a shield. Just be able to block just like with any other weapon, or be able to switch weapons before the crossbow reloads.
@@thisismelsemail1217 Blocking with the bow/crossbow would be so OP IMO, but you shoul be able to swap the crossbow without reloading, mosquitos are annoyng AF mate.
They also force you to reload which makes no sense. We should be able to shoot the bow, switch weapons, and then reload after switching back to bow. If we can't block with the bow, then they should probably tweak that.
a thing i would like to see is a little debuff icon one the bugs health when you apply bleed/poisen or other forms for debuff's
Pretty sure now poison coating from the mask of the broodmother stacks with the widow daggers poison plush the poison novas poison from the masks sleek upgrade plus parry poison all stack. And they all also get amlified by the widow armour so it melts now
Yes
I was able to fully stunlock the director by using full sleek mantis with the weapon. I ran apex, buff lungs, cardio fan, coup, and assassin (I know the bleed doesn't work). And with it I was able to crit enough to stun him before he could summon any mobs or turn on any lasers.
Using Mask of the Mother Demon "sleek" with Widow armour works well with widow dagger due to the mask's poison nova effect!
I've been using the fire ant armour. It's a great all rounder armour think. And so happy about the durability being Double I was going though a set of armour daily so I think that was much needed. Also I use the mint staff lvl 9 and the wizard hat to kill ladybirds, it kills them pretty quick. It's not the quickest but it's a fun fight.
i think black ox armor is actually pretty solid. it's designed to be used with charge attacks, but those take a long time to wind-up, leaving you very vulnerable to damage (unless you plan to cancel your attacks over-and-over again until you get a perfect window). some enemies will cancel your charge-up with their attacks, but it seems like the vast majority of them won't. increasing the stun further alleviates potential sources of damage, giving you even more leeway to focus on dealing damage. it's not the craziest or most skill-intensive set but i'd say it's a perfectly good option.
combining it with the prod smacker is a really good cheese strat, allowing you to practically stunlock certain enemies like the infected wolf spider and the broodmother. i feel like this will be addressed in the future, but i think it's worth giving a shot before then.
i never realized what the charging means? is it when you hold att button for longer time? whats the benefit of doing so? only good on the third att of combo?
@@sebastianscherer6897 i think its the same amount of damage as the third attack of a combo? im not totally sure if there's any real benefit to it without this set
@@3kto thanks for reply =)
I've been using black ant with the broodmother mask. Stack a lot of crit and damages. I'll swap out the mask for wizard hat if I'm going to use the staff a lot but I still usually just stick to the brood mask.
widow chest and legs with mask of the mother demon is insane. Bleed from assassin mutation, poison from the dagger plus widow armor, Extra poison from poison nova. This combo carried me through the endgame melting all enemies and bosses.
I started using the poison build I have black widow feet, chest, and then I have the brood mother mask paired with the black widow dagger all maxed except the dagger and I’m one tier away and it absolutely melts and even when you’re not hitting an enemy it still slowly takes their health down
Theres a secret thing about the fire ant armor i havnt seen anyone use the acid it can shoot out counts as an unarmed attack for some reason so that means it can trigger truffle tussle
A good combo (ONLY IF UR PLAYING SOLO) for anything thats not a spider is sleek upgraded termite, mask of the mother demon, and, and any good shinguards because poison nova and dust cloud can help for a solid bar of damage depending on the insect (poison coating is whats broken but poisen nova works perfectly fine i saw a video of someone using it during the newest update and it was working)
If you use the rusty spear you could use javlineer, which also reduces defense with a chance per hit
That’s what I’ve been running. Fire ant armor/shield + rusty spear + javelineer mutation. The debuffs you’re able to hand out to enemies is outstanding for survivability and killing capabilities.
Currently running an early-mid game poison build. Running fully upgraded rot spear and brood helm. Using the rotten berry charm. Gives double proc of poison, plus red ant shield. Using spider armor, since I have yet to kill a Widow.
1 other thing that applies bleed is the assassin mutation - Daggers apply bleed. There for you could test by applying bleed with feather arrows and then slashing with a bone knife and see if the bleed tick increases
you should do testing with another player so you can see the exact damage and durations of the effects
He has no friends though lmao
Personally I've been using a mix. Broodmother mask with fire and chest and moth legs along with fire ant shield. Mostly use bow but have the shield for use with the rust spear. The damage over time effects in the game don't seem that great alone but I feel like mixing them and adding in things like corrosion really does seem to add up
Man, it's easy. Fire Ant Armor for roaming in the yard. Sleek Lady Bug for bosses with a life steal weapon. It's that simple.
The assassin mutation with widow or moth armor with a spider fang or widow dagger make you cause a lot of bleed or poison
On the fire ant armour if u use it it's best to have Javelineer mutation at level 3 with the rusty spear because javelineer mutation increases the chance to lower defense of enemies and the rusty spear has infection which with every hit it lowers defense and makes them slower
Infection slows attack speed and lower attack damage. It makes very fast attack bugs slower and slow bugs really slow while making attacks not that powerful.
The Black Ox armor with Prod Smacker sounds like a good idea right?
Been using sleek Spider armor with the Broodmother mask and the widow Dagger (I'll replace the spider armor with the widow armor when I can) and I can hit most bugs with 3 or 4 hits and my Poison will kill them after. I love the build.
Lady bug armor is definitely my new favorite with the life steel tick sword and parry healing 💯
Immortal build. Especially if you are tanking for multiplayer.
I’m a huge advocate of the rolly polly armor, maxed out bulk build, I can take a lot of hits solo. 1v1 manager assistant, orc boss, etc all easy
Each individual poison source does more damage, so poison with motmd with widow dagger adds poison coating, nova, and widow dagger poison, each one of those count as individual poison
From my experience the Gas/Super Gas arrows seem to be crowd control or for lucky shots
this is just speculation, but I feel the black ox armor is more for a slow heavy hitting weapon like the clubs and maces. the play style would be more of a hit and run kind of tactic where you charge up your attack and hit once and run away or block an attack.
though it doesnt really make it more useful though since you want to do a 3 hit combo most of the time and I dont think there is an enemy that only has small opening where you can only attack once. maybe against flying enemies? not sure.
Coup de grass tier 2 plus trapper peeper on top of what ever smoothies you have… using a weapon like the a sword or dagger with a crit/shield build is definitely viable
Btw what was inside the door on black ant lab that require all Mix.r and SUPER Mix.r to open it
It should also be mentioned that with poison builds all poison effects are unique so you can stack 5-6 different poisons on an enemy if you are carrying all 3 poison daggers, both poison arrow types, and the broodmother mask. The DPS is actually crazy when you add all of them together makes it dumb easy to solo beefy enemies.
only for really skilled people, who can afford switching between all those weapons while fighting tough enemies,... so nothing for a casual player imo
Is upping their tier increase the damage too from poison which they inflict?
fire ant armor sleek with the spear feels REALLY good
For the poison build, try out mom genes and the brood mother trinket, its feels pretty good :) (with the same armor and weapon you had on)
I pair the black ox armor with the two handed robot arm thingy cuz it does a Shockwave with crazy aoe stun plus the stun bonus and charge bonus it's great for the Tully raid thing
When you use the mask of the brood mother or anything else that has +poison, does it work on any weapon or only weapons that had poison on it to begin with like the club of the mother demon?
Are there any new traps ?
My brother and I are playing on woah difficulty and we're trying to make a lethal food trap for farming aphids and weevils.
Sure the non lethal trap works but it's not as efficient for mass farming.
Nope. Spike is only trap. And it is worthless.
@@DarthPoyner I know i wish they hadn't removed the tripwire trap
My favorite set is moth armor. I guess they made it better since this vid but I proc with the black ox bow every other shot
After some testing, the best all-around set I've found is the Broodmother Mask (sleek) and the Mantis chest and legs (sleek as well), with the Club of the Mother Demon as your default weapon (mine is mighty level 7 or something, but upgrade as you see fit). Apex Predator, Coup De Grass 2, and Mom Genes mutation.
I can take down a Black Ox Beetle in 1 or 2 combos... sometimes not even that much if you get a lucky proc and get all 3 status effects on a mob. Something satisfying about swinging a few times and then backing off and watching the enemy melt from Bleed/Poison/Venom stacks. The poison cloud procs are nice aoe effects, the club can hit multiple bugs at once, and even the ladybirds (tier 2 black ladybug things) die in a single combo.
One of those "best defense is a good offense" things lol
So what I'm getting from the difference between bleed and poison is that: poison can do more damage but it doesn't affect everything, while bleed doesn't do that much damage but affects everything (maybe excluding black widow)
@11:30 I think those ants were also attacking the ox beetle so hard to tell what the bleed damage was.
The Ranged Cut on the Moth Armor just means that it adds a chance to bleed targets it has nothing to do with already having bleed on your weapon
I tank with Roly-poly armor my friends almost never take a ht and i allows me to perfect block and stun the hell out of everything including bosses.
The black ox armour could be useful with prod smacker cause u have to charge it up to the electrical attack
Yeah even though the prod smacker got nerfed (there is a glitch to get it but they should have just patched that instead of nerf) if you're playing on mild or medium it does a really good amount of damage when spamming charged attacks
@@steelslide9601 I didn't see the nerf in the patch notes. They just fixed the glitch to get it, right?
@@jdsfinest3954 they changed the weapon type from sword to club
@@steelslide9601 they did both changed the weapon type and patched where you can cheese it through the wall
The ox armor works ok with Staffs as you would not have a set bonus you would use the wizard hat combined all with the mutation
I feel like testing the armors only bases on raw damage output defeats the point. Most of the bonuses actually are useful either in groups or while getting attacked can actually get you hurt
Apex predator with the club of the mother demon, mask, and widow chest and legs does a really good poison build become apex predator usually is applying poison and white poison stacks can kill an ox beetle from 25%
Widow Dagger plus assassin mutation plus widow armor. Poison and Bleed combined. Thats what I run and it Slaps all insects except Spiders... naturally
They need to make alternate looks for all armor pieces.
While it's definitely not what I think they should prioritize, I would love more "full coverage" variants of them. Right now, it's hard to achieve an aesthetic when it only covers like 10% of the teen. I'd love to really embrace the inner insect, and cover all the default 90s outfit with the armor.
If I remember correctly, Black Ant Armor used to be heavy armor and have increased stun for the piece bonus. Roly Poly Armor attracts enemies, so I used to swap between the Black Ant Armor and the Roly Poly Armor. Now, it doesn't seem as good as it used to. They should definitely change the Black Ant Armor back to heavy armor because right now it feels like the Ladybug Armor is better.
After fully maxing the roly poly armor I take nearly no damage. Even on my solo build i use stronger melee weapons, plus with Sara’s charm and being able to master my perfect blocking and using coup de grass I never have to repair the weapon or sheild
If you use a full black ant set it gives you thorns or bugs take damage from damaging you
I usally do fire ant leggions, termite armor and brood mother helm. Higher tier ones with corrosion, dust and poison nova
I've been using mask of the mother demon with fire ant chest and legs and it's been doing really well. The damage from the mask and debuff from the fire ant armor as well as using fire ant shield.
They buffed Clover gear, it now reduces damage from "Tier 1 creatures" by 5% per piece, making Mites, Soldier Ants, Larvae, and other creatures basically harmless to you. Inversely, I think Grub Armor now provides a 5% damage boost per piece to those creatures. I play permadeath, and the Clover Gear helps me survive on Whoa until I get to Ladybug Armor around day 4.
I’m personally really good at parrying so I’m gonna run the mantis armor sleek and tick sword, it’ll be fun
How does the widow armour stack up with venom arrows/super venom arrows?
they should apply poison and have pretty powerful hits, so might be something there?
Rolly polly armor is just a tank build it doesnt have any defects other than being heaving armor, consuming more stamina. And the sleek version makes it even better with stronger blocking strength and with the ladybird shield you dont take damage from bugs except for bosses. Best combo is definitely assassin chest plate with rolly poly leggings and the mask of the motherdemon with apex predator makes the scythe super crazy
Use all the poison weapons (spider fang, widow dagger, lavra sword, rotten lavra sword, and the club of the mother demon with apex predator) with the armor all stacks up and melts bugs. That might be a big but that is how I saw it done. If it is intensional that makes poison good
That is too many items to be holding to make something good. I would rather used something less and still get the job done.
I use one piece black ant with two piece Koi. All leveled sleek, for increased block window and hyperstamina after block(crit). This with blademaster and mighty tick sword is very good everywhere (if you're perfect blocking)
1 thing i never tried yet . Is a perfect block build with the mutation that release lightning. + spear for lower resist . and watch if you can kill tier 3 stuff by only blocking hahaha
Ive used nothing but acorn stuff and i dont see the extra enemy aggro? What exactly does major threat do? I can find it in the OS
Only works with full acorn armor
Bee spear with the shelf with coup de grass gives pretty good crits
I actually love the roly poly armor as a solo player. If only for the massive amount of defense it provides. Also i really wish this game had an option to show hitsplats. I'd love to be able to see a number amount when I hit things.
can you give some advice to manage to prevent to much damage from ladybird larvas and fireants
@@icemancer2915 practice parrying on weaker versions. If the ladybird larvas burn is getting you just wear antlion armor.
@@justinmacdonald2102 I can perfect parry block them but the times they do hit they take like 30 percent of my health with the roly poly armor on
I love the role poly armour in single player because just tier 5 or 6 helped me beat the mant first try and when I needed too it helped me kill black ox beetles
I usually use the mask of the mother demon with rest roly poly stuff but I’m good at perfect blocking
It's worth mentioning, mask of the mother demon, and termite armor are medium and light armors with the resistance of heavy and medium armor, so you use less stamina for more resistance.
yeah resistance is high but the damage reduction is far less then any heavy armor. The game differetiates between resistance and damage reduction.
@@sebastianscherer6897 how is the mask of the mother demon reducing less damage then the roly poly helm?
I think soloing a Mix.R can be difficult if you don't attract enemies' attention. Roly Poly armor could be good for that
Can you do a video like this for the weapons I've been stuck on the tiger mosquito sword because it's most appealing to me but I think I could find a better weapon for what I want
Bleed damage typically only affects a target when it moves/attacks. The Black ox you fought seemed to only be losing extra health when moving 🤷🏻♂️
aren't the ants and ladybird attacking it too?
Just so you know , you can't test any status damage effect ON hit in creative mod since it does t proc. Tried poison build , wasnt working in creative but when in a normal game, they work greats. fire ant armor + any fast weapon to procs status / widow dagguer + full spider set means you can kill any bugs in 3 sec . Black ant + coup de grace + javelineer + bee spear . perfect block into mass crit. all of those doesnt work in creative from what i know :)
My progression for now and probably forever is ladybug armour then rolypoly then straight to assassin
poison and/or bleed works best with heavy swinging weapons, not so much with fast swinging weapons by the time DoT does any significant damage bug already is dead. poison/bleed makes up for the fact heavy weapons not doing much between swings and stamina recovery/exhaustion while doing devastating damage, stun, and follow-ups. does not seem like much, but a makes a huge difference in damage economy per swing/smash for heavy weapons, like its almost an instant death to mid to small enemies especially with crits.
Playing with my friends, I'm lovin the Roly Poly armour for the tank buffs!
Roly poly armour at level 9 has got me through pretty much the whole game. I only swap to antlion if I need to go to sandbox
quick question because I can't test it myself without spoilering me with the mantis fight.
When I pair the assassin armor and the scythe with the coup de grass , trapper peep.r and apex predator mutation isn't this really strong? I will be able to hit really fast, therefore triggering crits consistently. With the Armor bonuses and the trapper mutation the crits do more damage and proc even more frequently thanks to the set bonus
Anyone tested this combination out? seemes to be the only mindfull combo right now for me sadly cause all other armor pieces are pretty trash in my eyes
What armor complements the coaltana the best?
Sleek Ladybug armor is the GOAT IMHO. Pair it with the heal on parry badge and a good shield and a fast weapon like the toenail Scimitar you become unconquerable!
Ong bro I love ladybug armor so much
Additional could mean it does bleed in addition to the other damage types.
Black ox armor with the prod smacker that does electricity shock with every charged attack would also work well.
I use the roly poly armor the mint mace and the tick machete and the ice staff maxed out with the ladybird shield on medium difficulty solo and it's a pretty good build