Jaguar iPace 10,000 Mile Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- For a few months now Kate and I have been using a Jaguar iPace as our daily transport to see just how good it actually is, and it's been ace. It's not without its faults and as a direct competition model to the Tesla Model S it's got some large shoes to fill. We managed over 12k miles so got a good idea for what It can and can't do, but largely, it can do anything.
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Had mine for 18 months, 13,000 miles, no problems, fantastic car, charge it mostly with solar panels or 5.5 pence per kwh over night. 5 + stars for me! Same wheels and I think there great.
charging with solar panels. That's impressive.
Another thought is that the Model 3 sells well despite the minimalist interior. I much prefer the inside of the Jag.
I pace is a lot more expensive than a model 3. For that difference in price (+£20k) I’d expect a better interior.
Good and thorough review. I was somewhat distracted by what I worked out to be James's £2.5k coffee habit.
Well I am biased and don't mind admitting it. Had new Jags now for twenty years but this is the best yet. Helps that I have the first edition with all the bells and whistles. 2 years in and still not tired of it. First service due tomorrow. Zero road tax . Big decision to make next year. Keep or change? Could well be keep!
FE edition is beautiful, I'm not sure they'd have lent us one of those though.
@@Jamesandkate Where is the Model3 and MG ZS EV . Saw you did a video about the faults in the model3. Is it with Tesla getting fixed ? You seem to change your EV as much as i do. Im on my fourth ev at present.
You started off with the (not so good) points and my heart sank, but then almost all 10 of them wasn’t so bad at all. As for the consumption well your foot must be heavier than mine, but to be honest to be able to run a car like the ipace, no road tax, servicing every 2 years and less the 2p per mile for electric, surely you can’t go wrong. I’m just changing my SE for a HSE , what a great car.
There are some cars that just have that something special
Not necessarily to do with price and sometimes difficult to explain what it is
I have driven a fair few cars over 50 years and am fortunate to own an I-pace SE for 16 months and 10,000 miles and even thinking about the car brings a smile to my face. It is just magic
If you can afford it, hire one for the weekend. It is the only way for anyone to understand what I am trying to say
MikeSL1 and then drive a PM3 and realise what happy really is!
nowtleft2 I am not taking a partisan view by saying the best, only fantastic to drive. Have you driven a Jag
I did take a Tesla for a test drive and could not get on with right hand drive and left hand on the touch screen and even though it drove well, I was put off by the rattles
MikeSL1 When I was in the market to replace my Model S I contacted JLR Derby who didn’t haven Ipace for me to try, weren’t bothered about doing business and were frankly dreadful. My PM3 has no issues, no rattles and is a dream to drive. Plus has the SC network.
JLR will die with Ford etc so my advice is sell yours before it’s worthless.
nowtleft2 Thank you for your expert advice, much appreciated
MikeSL1 one day you will mean it. Probably while I’m supercharged and passing you on bust ecotricity charger 😭 must be so embarrassing!
Your annual take-away coffee bill is what I spent on my last car !
Yeah, I really need to chill on the coffee, it's getting out of hand 🤦🏻♂️
@@Jamesandkate Just do that 'Buy me a coffee' thing! And put it in the comment section.
Great vid. Just a note on the car not holding your driving mode preference, the head Jaguar engineer explained this is a compliance requirement of all cars. They have to always start in the mode the fuel efficiency tests were performed in. Just as well they tested in comfort not eco like some manufacturers do to bump their score.
Clown car tyres add comfort, which is much underrated
I thought I was the only genius on this channel, welcome 😁
*Surely much less 'road noise' than skinny low profile tyres, and an added bonus less likely to kerb the alloy wheels.*
65 aspect is more than enough for comfort. I'm not a fan of the modern trend for rubber bands on huge rims. Give me something in the middle, something like 40 to 50.
Exactly. I think my car is too bumpy on my stock 215/45r16. But I think that 15" would not fit over my brakes though
I changed the wheels on my RS4 as the super-low profile tires made the car really harsh going to 40s made the car much more day to day driveable and to be honest I could not notice the difference driving it really hard. I will never option the larger wheel low profile wheels on any car from now on.
If I could afford an I-Pace, I'd buy one tomorrow!
I have always said, the Tesla is a lot of tech with some car around it. The I-Pace is a lot of car with some tech around it. It really depends on what your priorities is for the car.
Value is my only priority. I get a lot more car for my money with a Tesla Model Y, no contest.
Ramon Zarat . Except you can’t buy them in the U.K !
@@UTUBESUCK666 Why no get Transit van then? - even better value
@@UTUBESUCK666 If value is what you want then I would say you are looking at the wrong car. This car is designed to be a luxury car, not a premium car (like all of the Tesla range), so as we say here in the UK, "horses for course".
I've had my i-pace for 30,000 miles now and I love it. I have had CCS charge problems and the odd blank screen, nothing that switching on and off wont cure. Tesla has got better charging and efficiency but as you say it is actually irrelevant in the big picture. People do slag the jag off in favour of Tesla but that's unfair its an alternative that's all, they are both very good cars. Thanks for your review really enjoyed it.
I make my own coffee - saving £6.60 per week. I’m using the saving to buy the I-pace, in 9480 weeks I’ll have enough 😂
😂😂😂
If buying a new car is considered only in terms of money NOBODY would be stupid enough to entertain the idea for any make of car.
Of 15000 weeks for a Model X or iX :)
Great review & what a beautiful car. Very good point about efficiency. Was about to get a Kona òver a Soul because it was slightly more efficient, even though there were many things l preferred in the Soul. Then l realized the difference over 100,000 miles at 5p a kWh was about £50, and the Soul was cheaper, what was l thinking! Now a very happy Soul owner.
Excellent. And if you further compare that to an ICE car, you really are very efficient 👍🏻
No way would I ever choose a Kona over a Soul. Sadly both are too small bootwise for our family car... But if we ever go back to 2 cars, then maybe the Soul would be considered
I’ve had an ipace for 12 months and sadly it has spent 3 months in the garage with battery issues. It’s still currently there and my frustration is increasing despite how much I loved the car at the beginning. At the moment I’d love to just have anything else! 😩
The volume dial. You have to spin it slow and volume works fine. I used to think it was stupid to have to spin it 1000 times. Once you slow down, the volume responds well.
great review ,i like the way you are circling the car whilst talking, i can view the car and listen at the same time, brill
One full circle of the car is enough. You are making me dizzy.
Yeah, my bad 🤦🏻♂️
It might not have all the toy's, but its a nicer drive, better built than the Tesla, just look at owner complaints, the Jag is far superior
I think its down to luck on a particular car. My company fleet manager is completely sick of JLR products and their poor reliability. I myself was forced to return my new XF after three months as it had spent more time in the dealership than on my drive. I now have a model 3 performance and can’t fault it.
Totally agree about the comments about the wheels and equipment level on the Basic model. It is just unacceptable to have , for example no heated seats on a 65K car.The S wheels kill the looks -I note the 21 model has 19" with a much more modern design.
With new competitors coming in Jaguar need to up the standard equipment levels even further on all versions.Even the HSE doesn't get glass roof , air suspension etc as standard.
Apart from that its a great car.
I didn’t know you had an ipace, omg I thought I’d seen all your videos. Was it around the same time as the MG? (Look on the bright side, I’ve got more videos to watch!)
Agreed. Was like, when did they get an I-PACE and how the heck did they put 10k miles on it already?
I'm interested in the I pace but I found a bunch of branded title lemon cars for sale. Can someone fill me in on this issue?
Keep still, keep still, keep still!!
An interesting review, I'm about the same mileage after a little over a year. It's a beauty, still find it a joy to drive, an absolute beast at overtaking, and great taking up snowy hills, muddy terrain or just blazing about in the wet. I haven't had any issues charging and the range is great. The reason I watched it was because I have wondered how it compared to a Tesla on some of the extra gadgets I guess you don't have on the 'fridge model'. I'm not impressed with the steering assist which seems to be unavailable on 80% of roads. Pairing with my iphone takes about 1 minute+ from getting in the car so I'm often driving before I can change source, pick music / podcast, and I can't lock the car until the motorized boot has closed, so when (I used to) go to work, I'd be at the elevator before I can lock the doors - they're all small flies in my ointment, but I suspect these are the kind of things Tesla as a tech company would do better than Jag as a car maker. I agree with what you say about the aesthetics inside and out, although I thought the Model S is a nice looking car, the i pace is a nice looking SUV, with the added versatility that comes with. I also think the space across the back seats is a bit tight, with 2 isofixes, it's impossible to get anyone in the middle - a mixed blessing if its a motherinlaw but it's something I can do in a Touran or Mondeo, and (IIRC) an XF. About the wheels, I got the 22s for the bling, they are a bit firm, but handle really well even in bad weather, I think the 18s give you better range though - so don't be too down on them :)
*Not actually seen one yet **_in the flesh_** (Jaguar iPace) - Parked next to a Tesla Model X a few weeks ago and was amazed how enormous it was, bit funny really being aware how expensive they are and owner failed to buy a £1 parking ticket (all day) and when returned noticed had been issued with a £60 Parking Fine !*
I love my 2019 I-Pace first addition. It’s kills Tesla in every way with the exception of fast DC charging. In the USA Tesla kills with DC charging availability. I tried to drive from Houston TX to Colorado Springs CO. Had to rent a car since there is no charges to Colorado past Dallas. But if I had a Tesla would not be any issue. Putting aside fast charging the I-pace is a much better choice for me. Quality and fit and finish hands down better choice. I-pace looks amazing.
Despite this,Tesla goes from strength to strength,I pace flops
Great video. The latest software has improved the data usage greatly and moved SOTA updates to not use the owner's SIM. I've not had the inside of the boot getting wet - maybe not had it in heavy enough rain, it does stream down the pillars. I'm obviously biased but I love the i-Pace and particularly the handling I've not experienced under-steer but I am on air suspension. Tell Florence she can always have a trip in mine.
Thanks, Garry
Great review, will look for more from you guys
I have had a lot of people compliment the car. I live in California and the Tesla here is king but I decided to go worth the Ipace to be different. The Tesla was smaller and cheaper built compared to Ipace. Not many Ipace on the road here in California but I love my car. I love everything about it. Would make the same purchase decision if i could do it again.
James' Roundabout was busy on that day!
I prefer the looks of the iPace over the Model S, and the build quality certainly matches it, as far as we can see from the video. And to be fair, if you're spending close to the price of a small house on a car, you're not going to be worrying about a small difference in efficiency. Plus you have an onshore manufacturer, should anything serious go wrong with the Jaguar. That has to count for a lot, if you need quick turnover times for repairs and replacement parts. The S wins, hands down, on cargo space, however, and the Supercharger network is a big, but diminishing, plus point.
So it comes down to, 'What are your requirements?' and 'What are your preferences?' when deciding which car to take on.
Thanks for the fine review, James.
New 2019 First Editions were going for $62,000 USD. You can get a lightly used HSE for about $51,000 USD right now. It's possible the 2019s will be in the $35-40k range next year.
Which suggests they depreciate too quickly. $10,000+ a year is a lot of cash. Personally I think the ipace is brilliant, but the boot space is not nearly as useable as it looks and the car is way overpriced.
Those are my favourite wheels! They just don't go with the white. My stepdad has a base spec I-Pace, but with different wheels. The front seats need more features for the price of the car without a doubt.
I might be one of the rare people that cross-shopped the I-pace to a Model X as those are cars that I fit properly behind the wheel (unlike the S which is too small for me).
At that point price comparison between a Tesla and the Jag become a really different ballgame.
I’m old and into comfort and efficiency so I’d put those wheels on my 3SR+.
Jag looks very beautiful indeed.
Re: the resetting of the driving modes - I believe that's down to something like EU regs or economy or something - basically, you get marked down if it doesn't default back to the standard driving mode. It may not apply to EVs as I'm sure its something to do with fuel Economy, but that's why. My XE does it all the time, where as my old XF didn't. When I asked, that was the reason I was given. (FWIW)
Other than the smaller alloys I really like it. These will surely hold their money better than any ICE Jag that’s for sure. I don’t know any I-Pace owner who doesn’t love them. Great honest review James. Thanks 🙏🏻
3 years down the line, all those leased company electric cars are now saturating the used market and private buyers are very wary. As a result, used prices are plummeting.
Did not aged Well this
@@shieldaigbencher This must be the first time I've actually had the chance to buy a reasonably new, low mileage Jaguar. Absolutely love the styling.
I-pace uses more energy per mile than most competitors. What else do you expect from the Jag? Think diesel Jags are more economical than MB or BMW?
Thank you for a great informative subjective video. I currently have a 2020 Jaguar XE and can confirm that the software JLR now use enables profiles to be set up using the keys and mobile phone so that when the user opens the car all the settings are reset to that particular profile (seat, mirrors, steering column etc)
Yup, but not driving mode though? Pretty sure that has to be reset each time?
Come on. You press a button once too get to dynamic or to eco. What's the big deal? You have to push a button to get the car to move.
I`ve worked it out....If you drank less coffee you wouldn`t walk round in circles all the time.
I am torn between the i pace and a Polstar 2 ( second hand) im leaning to the jag
A death trap. Do not fall into trap by just looking at it. It has been six months I bought 8-10 weeks it has been in the dealership. 3 times nearly escaped death (stops in the middle of the no where). Won't move in car wash. Problems you name it this car has it.
Perk's of the job I guess? I've never had the chance to drive the same car on different size wheels I know you get more in the way of comfort with larger side walls and debatable better looks with low profile tyres but do they give you a more sporty /better control feeling ?
Thanks for this video , in process of looking to get the Audi Q4 , VS the iPace , Vs the Model Y , so this is helping with real world info
I just picked up a 2019 with 22" wheels and have to agree the 18's are a little small. Overall I absolutely love the car.
Great idea to walk around the car as you talk. Can then see it from all angles as you speak. The only thing I like about it is the wheels 😂
not all the way through yet (only 8 mins) is there a reason you haven't got updated software? deferring it or just not getting them?
I have an 18 month old I-Pace on 20 inch wheels with air suspension and the ride in my opinion is much too firm. The responsiveness, handling and acceleration however is terrific and I still love the styling inside and out. However my next EV will be a Tesla because of the charging network. While Ecotricity have a monopoly on motorway charging, long trips are out of the question because of the unreliability of their charging stations. Until that is sorted out by this useless government electrifying personal transport will never happen.
Yeah, whilst I had the iPace that was what I found too. Tesla have the network sorted, all the other manufacturers have the same issue, tbh. That said, its an ever improving situation.
You're totally right about the wheels, they look completely out of place on an otherwise great looking car
Great car great I depth video thank you James
You have a Tesla and the Jag, did you buy the MG ZS EV? Also do you have any other EV’s?
The iPace isn't ours, it was on loan.
Styling wise not sure but sure different,maybe a grower....hope reliability is better than previous jags.
The big question is, is the boot lid full of water like the Tesla ?
Great review
Hey James thanks for an excellent review of the iPace espesially coming from a 2 x Tesla owner. I'm almost there on one just got to convince myself with a long (2-5 day) experience owning one.
I actually like the wheels. Subjective.
Difficult to see on your model but my SE has awful stick on Jaguar decals on the doors. Already they are starting to peel on the corners. Cheap afterthought, I'm sure Jaguar may have addressed this issue with later models. I'm going to make a complaint at my Jaguar agent.
These should be replaced under warranty, mine were due to be done just before lock down.
@@MrTonykent Thank you forgetting me know.
Why are you letting the I-Pace go if you prefer it over the S?
on most of performance specs I-pace is similar to F-pace SVR V8 5L. Which starts at £5-10k more than I-pace. Unless things have changed since I last checked
Yeah, the SVR does sound better though.... ;)
Really enjoyed you video
'Running old software' - you mean it doesn't auto update?
Nothing wrong with the wheels mate. Look good.
Interesting point of view.
Content starts at 2:15.
My octopus go tariff is 9.5p off peak nearly double yours
Most reviews of the iPace that I've seen comment on how laggy the screen response is. Did I miss where you mentioned it or was it not an issue for you?
Hi. The first iPace we tested 18 months ago did have a very laggy screen and infortainment system, but it's been software'd out in later variants. We certainly didn't suffer any issues and the 3 screens you have work really well together, one of my favourite points of the iPace 👌🏻
@@Jamesandkate Yup - same system as I've got my XE. There's a tiny bit of lag to it, but really, its not an issue. I love the digital dash too. The HUD on the iPace is awesome too, I had it on a car I test drove when the IPace came out. if the XE's was the same as the iPace's (it is now, not in 2018 when I got my XE), I'd have ticked that option too.
The wheels might look better if they were black instead of metallic. Why don't you get the software update?
Those wheels exist solely to make you spend a little more as nobody in their right mind would suggest they complement the car.
Jaguar have changed the the standard wheels to 1 in. bigger and a different design. Biggest gripe fixed!
How is the MG going mate ? Did you sell and get the TM3 ?
I've not owned an i-pace or a Tesla yet, but in the market for an ev and narrowed it down to either the Jag or Tesla. One thing which puts me off a Tesla big time is their build quality. Are there any signs of poor quality on the i-pace especially after @10k?
None at all. The iPace build is far superior to the Model S, but the Model 3 build is much better. Depending on what size car you're after, try them both, but the iPace comes out on top.
@@Jamesandkate That's good to know about the Jag, I think it makes up for the i-pace S cost being close to the Tesla MS with lower equipment level. hope to test the i-pace soon.
Rain drips on the Porsche Macan boot also. No sunroof on the jag for this price too and no options for the higher models either. Personally I never buy a car without a sunroof.
Good to hear your experince of the car. I think like most cars the biggest cost by far is depreciation (I know most people lease these days but that is built into the lease cost). I imagine the insurance is fairly hefty with one of these too? I quite like the looks of the iPace but it is way too big for me as I am single without kids.
Think the wheels would look a lot better repainted in anthracite metallic.
WLTP doesn't allow you to set a driving mode as a profile so it has to default to comfort. It's not Jags fault
Re: data usage - I presume you'e got the same free 500mb/month data sim as I've got in my XE - not sure how you use that all up, mine normally lasts me all month with no problem? Unless you stream stuff over it, in which case, yes it'll dry up very quickly.
Vert intéressant review, watching this while waiting to het mine ;)
I would just love owning one, not worried about other things, unless wheels fall off.
So may I ask why did you buy a model 3 with your own money ? We have a model 3 and love it. Ed
Price. I can't afford another S or iPace currently
I don't think they (rims) are cute but in south Africa they will come in handy(what with potholes and I believe they will offer better range.
Good update .whats the music I like it?
07:27 You stand corrected as my I-pace has key profiles for the missus and I and will automatically adjust upon entry .
Yes, but not the selected drivemode. It will always default to comfort on start.
As mentioned, it's the drive mode that I want to change
@@ridingwolf42 I must confess , I did initially miss that point . However , both my wife I always drive in comfort mode in any case with the exception of when we go off road .
I would not spend that much on a car even if I could,nice car all the same.
Agree. I could pay a chunk of my mortgage off with what this costs. In a few years though this type of car will be cheaper than an ICE BMW 3 Series and that is the point at which I will jump in with my order.
JLR first attempt at producing an "EV". 10/10
How many cars do you have?
Does the Air suspension make much difference to the ride comfort
Yes, loads
You sounded like me.!! "me and the girls"
Just because YOU don’t like the wheels doesn’t count as a negative against the car, taking both hands off the wheel when driving is not good!
It caused understeer too, definitely a negative
@@Jamesandkate To be fair car manufacturers design the cars to understeer first, its a safety feature. As you say, understeer is far more desirable than oversteer.
Nice motor. I'm not a fan of leccy but if i was in the market for 1 it'd be an I Pace.
I like the ipace and etron wish I could afford one
If you had a budget of 45k for an EV, would you buy one of these used, say 2 years old?
Depends where you live. In the US, give it another 6 months and yes. Along with most used cars it's been holding it's value very well, however, in the past two months they've been dropping quickly. A 2019 HSE with average miles was going for $70k two months ago, it's now around $50k, I think in a couple of months they will be going for $40-$45k.
3.1mpkwh avg isn't even bad - I average that over 12 months in the ZS
Faults, they are more niggles, colour of dials is a preference, grip in corners is down to the tyres, eco tyres won't be the same as the petrol car equivalent.
You have a problem holding the steering wheel .....why
I've no issues holding it at all.
Whilst I too like my Tesla alot, the minimalist thing is is overdone (even more the M3). Its not the future, there are some things that need to be accessed quickly without looking and navigating menus. I fear that iPace was a technology demonstrator thoug, not really seeing the learnings bearing much fruit yet as the wider business is still not doing the obvious and building Disco Sport and Evoque as purely EV options. May be this is ‘just’ a platform thing and ROI needs to be realised ….
What happened to the MG Ze?
It's on our driveway
tetris, pap, wicked. urban dictionary anybody? :)
Tetris = You have to really pack the boot/trunk well to fit in your stuff, i.e. the space is not large
Pap = Not very good
Wicked = Very good
@@tonyp741 I appreciate your explanation for the global audience
You make your choice and pay your money. After that point you find out if you have made a good decision .
Considering you have one of last model 3's with free super charging? if you don't like it sell it. Things moving on. New VW looks good.
£25k used is tempting .
Thank you James. I was in New Forest last week and I saw a white I-Pace with white seats. Personally, I prefer this car over Tesla. This is a biased view because I have been to a Jaguar car design exhibition and when you get really close to it and speak to the actual car designers you quickly understand the philosophy and you will fall in love with it. The space inside is similar to a Range Rover Evoque. I agree with the wheels aspect. By the way I prefer the image/video of the
cars when it is on Tarmac compared to grass. Keep up the good work🤗