This Kimberly not only won a major, but went through a gauntlet of some true FGC killers from the past decade+. Kimberly or not, this was an impressive tournament win.
I like this new trend of immediately calling whatever character that wins a major top tier, despite whatever their strengths and weaknesses were before.
Actually they are using this argument to defend Ken and JP, despite we had yet AGAIN another top 8 fested with JP's and Ken's and YET AGAIN, another Ken in finals.
Cap, he’s said numerous times he’s gonna drop her for a DLC character and I’m depressed because I learned everything I know from HIM so when he drops her I’m washed.
I've been a master Kim for a while so I'm hungry for any content that shows top level Kim play. I need to steal more tech lol. I've been mostly trying to figure out stronger frame trap options or more can setups so I can get people to stop mashing stand jab. The run step (running into opponent) is a frame trap most of the time but it's hard to get damage off so the risk reward for the opponent stand jabbing is pretty heavy in their favor. Most videos/guides I can find are for beginner/intermediate level so I really appreciate all the top level informational videos Diaphone!
Fujimura has placed first at: Fighter's Spirit 2018 Stunfest 2018 CEO 2018 Red Bull Kumite 2018 Taipei Major 2019 Fighter's Spirit 2019 SEA Major 2019 All SF5. He also had a number of other 2nd and 3rd place finishes too. 7th at Evo this year with SF6 obviously. And 2nd in this stacked tournament, but 49th in the second World Warrior
Kimberly kind of mauls JP with all her neutral skips and ways to bait amnesia with her setups. I know she’s widely considered as one of the weaker characters but to counter one of the most popular and strong characters makes her kind of a sleeper pick.
I feel like all the arguments about "top tiers" is really just missing the conversation that SF6 is probably one of the most balanced-at-launch Street Fighters we've gotten. It really feels like everyone's actually viable, it's a little crazy.
Funny how Mocchi won tournanent's with s2 Sol and people gave him due credit. It was, "Compared to Nago and Ram, Sol sucks, its just Mocchi is goat'd." In SF6 it's polar opposite. It's, "Cammy is the worst until Punk and Hurricane consistently beat a JP in finals", or "Gief has no options until SnakeEyes resets bracket and destroys a JP and a Ken."
I can see how Kimberly can be top tier but she's still got a high skill ceiling due to the fact that you have to be fast, slippery and tactical to really bring out the best in her its still great to see that Kimberly won a Major but I doubt I'll end up doing anything of the sort on her as I've yet to learn the core of SF6 to the level needed to even approach that.
@SpiteHook her neutral is kinda ass i guess they could improve that when her gimmick is hella fake and 90% gets punished its exhausting to play her ngl
I love these kind of videos ! I already saw these match but there is so much things I didn't see :O You are helping so much low rank kims like me ! please never stop :D
This kim player had to work so hard at the end. Kim had to outplay or guess right so many times to equal ken getting a read or guessing right once. You saw the mental breakdown on the end. Kim was eating the dp's until she wasn't and it shook the Ken player. Also, i don't know if Kim would be sustainable, so many skin of the teeth moments.
Think about JP. Kakeru had to perform 32 perfect parries to win AB's ken. I have watched so many top level matches, but I have never seen any player in the world can do that many perfect parries in a few matches.
@@jkdman2007 don't buy the hype dude, out of those 32, 80% was on hadouken's... He won cause JP is overpowered aswel, it had nothing to do with Perfect parries, people are just overhyping the shit out of it for no reason at all.
@@Nobody-su9km Perfect parries on hadouken are hard especially in closed range. Can you do it like he did? Show me your match videos to prove your point.
none were close range, and no, it's not that hard to time a fireball perfect parry, there is literally a tutorial on how to do it on Arcade mode, you should try it sometimes.@@jkdman2007
So that bomb set up at 4:50 ish mark actually doesn't go into ex command grab. I labbed it after playing a Kim that clearly stole this guy's tech and it doesn't work. You're actually better off going for HK loop for optimal damage if you have the meter and your willing to spend it
Why do JP and Kim have EX down down inputs, but Jamie does not have an EX drink option? Getting a better level up option might be just what he needs, since I do not feel like the character really becomes scary until at least 3 drinks.
@SpiteHook Well, his Level 2 should also be buffed tbh. But even so, EX drink does not necessarily need to give more drinks if you think it conflicts with his Lvl 2 too much; it could protect your drinks with armor, massively increase the speed, or just make it a combo extension of some kind to add drinks to any combo.
Idk if it’s only in super high Masters but every time I do MP HP into run cancel I get jabbed out or DP 100% of the time so I sometimes don’t even use that at the wall anymore LOL 😂
Yea it's to bait a dp. Fastest way to cancel out of your dr. A lot of people at low life see green coming at them after knock down and will try to wake up dp or super.
Dawg please don't say Kimberly FINALLY won a major when the game has been out for like 3 months. It's not like it took 5 years of grinding for a Kimberly to win a major lmaoooo
@@Thatgumurk dawg the game hasn't even been out for a year chill 😭😭😭 y'all are acting like it's impossible for these characters to win majors when snake eyes literally won a cpt with zangief
fake pressure isnt necessarily a bad thing, its a mixup tool because if you just do the airtight stuff 24/7 you'll be much easier to read. have to represent both
@@rare9242There's people who win with Sean in 3S, doesnt make the character particularly good. I'm just asking for one good defensive option since they took away her DP
This Kimberly not only won a major, but went through a gauntlet of some true FGC killers from the past decade+. Kimberly or not, this was an impressive tournament win.
Heyyyy apparently she’s low tier. As a Kimberly main, I’m fine with that 🤫
All Kim players already won a major part of my heart 🥰
I like this new trend of immediately calling whatever character that wins a major top tier, despite whatever their strengths and weaknesses were before.
Which means Kimberly is already back to low tier, we did it boys!
@@edu_mach98 Endingwalker from what I understand has won a major with Ryu already
Actually they are using this argument to defend Ken and JP, despite we had yet AGAIN another top 8 fested with JP's and Ken's and YET AGAIN, another Ken in finals.
This should be called the "Overwatch effect"
Diagophone is the one true Kimberly Main.
Cap, he’s said numerous times he’s gonna drop her for a DLC character and I’m depressed because I learned everything I know from HIM so when he drops her I’m washed.
He might drop her for AKI if she is good though...
Which character did he main in sf5 or sf4?
@@jkdman2007I think he's new to sf.
@@thepeasant269 No, he competed in SFIV. He played Juri last in SFV idk if he played others.
This game feels like it has so much to discover still, first fighting game in a long time to feel this way
GG Strive felt like that before Happy Chaos was introduced
I've been a master Kim for a while so I'm hungry for any content that shows top level Kim play. I need to steal more tech lol. I've been mostly trying to figure out stronger frame trap options or more can setups so I can get people to stop mashing stand jab. The run step (running into opponent) is a frame trap most of the time but it's hard to get damage off so the risk reward for the opponent stand jabbing is pretty heavy in their favor. Most videos/guides I can find are for beginner/intermediate level so I really appreciate all the top level informational videos Diaphone!
If they block a stand heavy punch it's a spacing trap with any of your pokes if they press jab after.
Fujimura has placed first at:
Fighter's Spirit 2018
Stunfest 2018
CEO 2018
Red Bull Kumite 2018
Taipei Major 2019
Fighter's Spirit 2019
SEA Major 2019
All SF5. He also had a number of other 2nd and 3rd place finishes too. 7th at Evo this year with SF6 obviously. And 2nd in this stacked tournament, but 49th in the second World Warrior
? Does he play kim?
@@jonc8561 No, but in the video he brought up how good Fujimura was and mentioned he got first at something but he didn't remember exactly what.
My brain just can't process Oniki's inputs in real time. You guys are really on another level.
even tho it's a Kim video, good tip on Jamie! Gonna try and accept being on drink level 1-2 more and maintain pressure instead. See how it goes.
Hell yeah. Was waiting for this one for a long time.
Kimberly kind of mauls JP with all her neutral skips and ways to bait amnesia with her setups. I know she’s widely considered as one of the weaker characters but to counter one of the most popular and strong characters makes her kind of a sleeper pick.
No one is mauling JP, but she does have a slightly more favorable matchup.
Oh hey, the Juri & Ken question was mine. I also take credit for the Monado joke.
Actually, I take credit for that joke.
Nagoya Oja is his team, his tag is just Oniki
The awareness he had to not do the full damage combo and instead went straight to super to cause the burnout was insane.
anyone who hits OD amnesia and then decides it's his turn to combo into level 3 is a monster lmao. thanks for the breakdowns, very edjucashunal!
I feel like all the arguments about "top tiers" is really just missing the conversation that SF6 is probably one of the most balanced-at-launch Street Fighters we've gotten. It really feels like everyone's actually viable, it's a little crazy.
naw , it's because everyone heavily relies on the system mechanics. You get balance but you lose depth.
I wish I could be that fearless. Proud to say I've been converting my elbow drops really well though.
Funny how Mocchi won tournanent's with s2 Sol and people gave him due credit. It was, "Compared to Nago and Ram, Sol sucks, its just Mocchi is goat'd."
In SF6 it's polar opposite. It's, "Cammy is the worst until Punk and Hurricane consistently beat a JP in finals", or "Gief has no options until SnakeEyes resets bracket and destroys a JP and a Ken."
I can see how Kimberly can be top tier but she's still got a high skill ceiling due to the fact that you have to be fast, slippery and tactical to really bring out the best in her its still great to see that Kimberly won a Major but I doubt I'll end up doing anything of the sort on her as I've yet to learn the core of SF6 to the level needed to even approach that.
she needs only 1 buff and that is to give her her reversal back she needs nothing else imo
like? @SpiteHook
@SpiteHook her neutral is kinda ass i guess they could improve that when her gimmick is hella fake and 90% gets punished its exhausting to play her ngl
In Japan there's only two top Kimberly players which is Narikun and Oniki. Majority of them main: Juri, Ken, JP, Dee Jay, Chun Li and Cammy.
the fact that you even had jwong saying "yes yes yes" in his modern ryu video had me cackling
I love these kind of videos ! I already saw these match but there is so much things I didn't see :O
You are helping so much low rank kims like me !
please never stop :D
I've waited for this news to come for a Kim to come out on top at a major. Congrats Oniki
This kim player had to work so hard at the end. Kim had to outplay or guess right so many times to equal ken getting a read or guessing right once.
You saw the mental breakdown on the end. Kim was eating the dp's until she wasn't and it shook the Ken player. Also, i don't know if Kim would be sustainable, so many skin of the teeth moments.
That's just Kim, she needs a full combo to match the rest of the cast in damage
Think about JP. Kakeru had to perform 32 perfect parries to win AB's ken. I have watched so many top level matches, but I have never seen any player in the world can do that many perfect parries in a few matches.
@@jkdman2007 don't buy the hype dude, out of those 32, 80% was on hadouken's... He won cause JP is overpowered aswel, it had nothing to do with Perfect parries, people are just overhyping the shit out of it for no reason at all.
@@Nobody-su9km Perfect parries on hadouken are hard especially in closed range. Can you do it like he did? Show me your match videos to prove your point.
none were close range, and no, it's not that hard to time a fireball perfect parry, there is literally a tutorial on how to do it on Arcade mode, you should try it sometimes.@@jkdman2007
your kim at TNS this week was tip top man. so fun to watch.
Let’s go kim :)
This was so satisfying to watch, its so good to see people using meta characters losing
oniki is like ur SF6 soulmate
So that bomb set up at 4:50 ish mark actually doesn't go into ex command grab. I labbed it after playing a Kim that clearly stole this guy's tech and it doesn't work. You're actually better off going for HK loop for optimal damage if you have the meter and your willing to spend it
You didn't hear it from me, but word on the street fighter is there's a tape between Blanka and Juri called Jungle Dfeet.
Why do JP and Kim have EX down down inputs, but Jamie does not have an EX drink option? Getting a better level up option might be just what he needs, since I do not feel like the character really becomes scary until at least 3 drinks.
I think the drink is super strong, especially at DL2. He gets access to the best damage ender in the game
He would be crazy strong if he could do that. Especially since he can stack booze from light attack combos.
@SpiteHook they serve different purposes and use different gauges
@SpiteHook Well, his Level 2 should also be buffed tbh. But even so, EX drink does not necessarily need to give more drinks if you think it conflicts with his Lvl 2 too much; it could protect your drinks with armor, massively increase the speed, or just make it a combo extension of some kind to add drinks to any combo.
To save the streak!
Nice to see her in the spotlight
Lets go Kim!!!! Im so happy one has rose to win a major!!!
🤢🤢🤢
@@RemingtonMiles-sr9uf stay mad
@@Thatgumurk Get lost
Idk if it’s only in super high Masters but every time I do MP HP into run cancel I get jabbed out or DP 100% of the time so I sometimes don’t even use that at the wall anymore LOL 😂
Your average guy will dp every time, the masters know this and expect to get baited so the do nothing and get mixed.
Banger analysis.
9:39 IMPORTANT.
The goat! Buff Kim, please!
After the lvl 1 can super, can you do ex teleport into air lvl 2? That would beat desperate ex dps on reaction due to the height
Did she get nerfed because before aki came out I was able to do way More combos now I'm no longer able to please help 😢
Tiers Schmiers. Just find your fighter soul mate and get to learning.
oniki keeps whiffing drive rush crouching jab, is there a reason to do that?
I think it baits dp
Yea it's to bait a dp. Fastest way to cancel out of your dr. A lot of people at low life see green coming at them after knock down and will try to wake up dp or super.
Nice PPs in this video
"400 dollars " 🤣💀
I can do that combo too but i don't get $400 when i do it :(
Top tier characters should be based on how easy they are to wipe the arena with, not on how many majors they won 😐
It's based on matchups
Fen ritty
Tier list don't matter. Players do
"Finally"...as if it were destined to happen. Lol
Dawg please don't say Kimberly FINALLY won a major when the game has been out for like 3 months. It's not like it took 5 years of grinding for a Kimberly to win a major lmaoooo
what major manon won name em clown
@@Thatgumurk dawg the game hasn't even been out for a year chill 😭😭😭 y'all are acting like it's impossible for these characters to win majors when snake eyes literally won a cpt with zangief
@@ytfch-ef8zf clown said that to the tier list that were made 3 months ago 😂 before this cpts get exposed scurb
@@Thatgumurk bruh idk even know what ur saying rn
@@ytfch-ef8zf you know what iam talking about clown
Kim is still low tier, i dont care. Almost every character has a reversal in the game, and literally all her pressure is fake.
fake pressure isnt necessarily a bad thing, its a mixup tool because if you just do the airtight stuff 24/7 you'll be much easier to read. have to represent both
@@rare9242Yeah but the problem is she *only* has fake pressure and 90% of it can be beaten by a single jab
@@KaitouKaiju that is how fake pressure usually is countered. not saying Kim is good but some people getting results shows its not impossible
@@rare9242There's people who win with Sean in 3S, doesnt make the character particularly good.
I'm just asking for one good defensive option since they took away her DP
I literally said in my last post she isnt good. im just saying fake pressure isnt the end of the world to the other guy. @@KaitouKaiju
In a game made for mashers, any character can win a tournament.
how is the game made for mashers exactly?
What game isn’t made for mashers o.o
Cope
no, you're just bad
@@ZangetsuDDRnah he has a point.. this game is dishwasher scrub man
Stop trying to gaslight me into picking up Kim again