How did bro not think he could build a legacy in Toronto? He won their first franchises championship, I’m sure after achieving that in your first year of a new team you’ve already started one to build off of and not take for granted.
He's injured and won't be able to play. He blows off team execs, ignores his teammates, and gaslights the fans. It is a pattern. The difference is the Spurs realized he doesn't really want to play and got rid of him. The Clips were too desperate and are trying to hold on to their false hope. The Spurs medical staff was right. He has a degenerative condition that'll never be right. He and the media blamed the Spurs and he forced his way out. I'm waiting for the media to apologize to the Spurs for all the bad mouthing they did. Of course that won't happen.
It’s crazy how people couldve accused the spurs of such things. A classic franchise with one of the most liked coaches in history. I bought it back then but now…
I mean, he did pop up for a Cameo in like 2019. So I guess we are hoping he might still bless us with another guest staring at least once some time soon. Just like the rock in the last Wrestling Mania.
@@Viserysrule3 I don’t think it was ever about money for Kawhi. The Raptors would have given him a dump truck full of money to stay. In his mind, he wanted to build a legacy for his hometown team and he had every intention of the team being legit contenders. It just didn’t work out that way was all.
@@jaerockchalk3216 Nah, even when he got a second opinion, they didn't know what was wrong with his leg. The problem was that Pop went public saying the doctors said there's nothing wrong with him and can play, and Ginobli yellled at him during the players only meeting. Whole team turned on him to pressure him to play, publicly. Toronto has issues too regarding his load management, but they kept it all under wraps. Clips went too far and couldn't keep it under wraps anymore.
Spurs haven’t had a single issue like this in 30 years. Kawhi was the issue. Insane that people even try to argue that it was the Spurs fault. And I say that as a certified Spurs hater.
A few years later?? The Spurs been dog water pretty much since he left. He’s won a ring since he left, Spurs haven’t won a thing since he left besides the draft lottery.
Uncle Dennis the reason Kawhi not complaining. We heard he asked the Lakers for Mansions on the back end of the deal. The Clippers clearly did deals with his Uncle behind the scenes
It's not hard to figure out his knee is permanently ruined much like Lonzos injury. He needed to bite the bullet and rebuild it and take 2/3 years off, but he wanted that payday and he's got less time to spare
@@Chris-e3o2u Kawhi didn’t need the payday. He was getting paid no matter his next move. He wanted to come home and build a dynasty. Unfortunately for him, it backfired in the worst possible way.
@@TheRealDeal_81 yeah you're right about that. I was just thinking in terms of his age that he didn't want to take 2 years off this late in his career and took the chance to keep playing hurt.
@@Chris-e3o2u part of him probably assumed the Clippers’ medical staff was of the same calibre as Toronto’s. The way the Raptors load managed and rehabbed him was top notch and they didn’t pressure him. And it’s pretty clear that there was also pressure from up top in the Clippers to get a good ROI on him. Ballmer had that win now mentality, pushed him too hard and now we see the results. Also classless how they treated PG when it came time to re-sign him.
As a Raptors fan, I agree. As a purely basketball decision he made a really dumb one. Could’ve run it back with the exact same team. But as a purely personal decision he did what was smart for him - going home, getting paid and not even having to play that much. Kawhi is a great player but doesn’t have the mamba mentality. Kobe would’ve made a purely basketball decision.
@@jaerockchalk3216 I mean he already got 2 chips and 2 final mvps. It's not like he really needs to prove anything more so I kinda get his decision in going home and getting paid.
Ever since the Spurs saga, I don't trust the Spurs. Pop not always right. Spurs not always doing the right thing. They tried to cover for Josh Primo too, and let that go on for way too long. They are great to deveoping players and constructing teams, but sometimes they are just plain wrong too.
@@texchu8331 to be honest, had Duncan still with the Spurs that season, I doubt Kawhi would have left... He is the glue to that Spurs franchise even at old age as he makes things work with his leadership and calm demeanor... As much as I love Ginobili and Parker, I think they aren't the leaders that put the team together to work, it was always Tim Duncan and when he retired, the leadership also retired... Also, if anything, Duncan would have been the most understanding of Kawhi's situation considering he also once missed the entirety of the playoffs I believe in 2000 due to injuries...
@@AlexisCando-z1p Ah, yes, Duncan. I could see that. They did seek his help later to convince Kawhi to stay, but it was way too late, and it was awkward because he wasn't on the team anymore. Yea, if he was still on the team during that time...
Kawhi should have stayed in Toronto. Most likely would have repeated in ‘19-20 had the roster stayed together. Hindsight and all, but that would have been the smart move.
the intro got me wondering if Kawhi had basically decided he would sit out a certain amount of games per year to extend his career. There used to be injury reports but it has changed to player load management related X-outs
To be fair the Clippers gave up EVERYTHING to get him and PG. I can sympathize with the organization trying to maximize on their return, trying to get actual results!
How is making your best asset indefinitely hobbled getting maximum return on investment, typically doctors and trainers should be deciding on him playing, not greedy ass shitty GMs
The same thing happened with Grant Hill. They misdiagnosed his injuries and send him out there to get hurt. At least Kawhi was able to win multiple championships before he completely broke down.
@@michaelmagic988 not so much nyc weather, but upstate NY weather, with a little less snow than buffalo cause they get the worst end of the lake effect snow
@@michaelmagic988dumbest thing I ever heard. NY, Buffalo, Detroit, Boston, Chicago, Minnesota and North Dakota are just as cold. Most people are in their homes, driving or working indoors in the winter time. Just a sad excuse from you lol.
Kawhi needs to look into the same meniscus/ligament transplant Lonzo did. That way he can take the next two years off, then come back just in time to bilk another $100 million out of Steve Balmer.
Made it to the end… great video and it was full of information that really helps understand what went on with Kawhi and the Clippers… he really put himself back into a bad situation and the same situation he feared with the spurs.
kawhi kinda fucked up on a few accounts as well: 1. he shoud've declined the max and taken less and said to the organization "im taking less even though i'm worth the max because I wont be able to play as much as a typical star player, I need to properly rehab and load mange for the length of the contract or until im fully 100 percent." did he have the integrity to do that, no. 2. if im forced to play when im not fully recovered from any injury i will go to the players association and file a formal complaint where 3rd party doctors may get involved to asses the injury and rehabilitation procedure and length .... again he didnt do shit like this, if he was smart and had more integrity he would have laid that out from the very beginning after being in that situation in san antonio
@@101noz101 for sure, my point is he should have stayed in Toronto… he really didn’t need to search out any other situation. That team would have given him the time to get right through each injury. LA is too big of a market, with too much aspirations to wait for anything. I get it. They had the right to demand to get what they paid for as well.
@@KrazieSevin 💯 for sure, my point is Kawhi honestly should have stayed in Toronto instead of wanting to go home to LA. I’ve thought this ever since he made the deal to leave Toronto. They laid it out there. The organization could have basically been his. The entire city laid itself at his feet and he wanted to go home 🤦🏾♂️.
lives in a mansion in SanDiego after spending a year in Canada freezing his ass off. Good for him, he got two bags, lives in California and gets to play half the time for the full pay. don't hate the player hate the game.
He isnt blaming anybody? Its literally a seperate lawsuit that he is the subject in. Yall just Lenoard haters cause trash ass clippers are an indefinite 1st round exit now
LOL. The clippers didn’t “ruin” Kawhi Leonard. They gave that guy the keys to the organization. He wanted PG, and he got him. They’ve given him everything. And in return he’s hurt. But when it’s payday, he’s out there!!
Drama seems to follow this guy around and he never says a word. Spurs fans LOVED him. Then hated him. But they are over the whole ordeal now. Raptors LOVED him, wanted him to stay and now probably dislike him for leaving and making them rebuild. Still appreciative for the chip. Now the Clippers were thrilled to sign him and now their fan base seems to be turning on him considering how everything has panned out.
As a Toronto resident, Raptors do not dislike Kawhi, we completely understand that he wanted to go home. We are extremely happy that we got a championship out of him from a huge risk of trading away DeRozan. Kawhi will forever be respected in Toronto. Just a shame because we would've run it back with the same team, just more confidence.
Oh boy, where to begin... What makes this whole thing even more insane is the fact Clippers brought in Jerry West as a special consultant to help them fix their entire franchise. He taught them how to draft properly, develop and build their roster; his wisdom was a much needed addition to a team who desperately needed it. I don't know if Lawrence Frank is disregarding it for the sake of job security, but the theme overall has been "love." Clipper's greatest weakness is wanting to be loved, respected and worshiped like Lakers; their greatest fear is irrelevancy. Every time Clippers did something wrong and it was reported on, the meme of "Same ol' Clippers" rears its ugly head. Even with a new good owner in Steve Ballmer, the feelings of jealousy, envy and vengeance remain, and that is the result of being under the thumb of Donald Sterling for decades; Clippers have simply inherited Sterling's behavior. For a person like myself who has kept an eye on this franchise ever since the Chris Paul veto in 2011, I worry about the Clipper's future. If Shelton wins his case, there's no telling what the NBA might do.
Bro calls himself a lakers fan but only reports on them when there’s something negative to report. Now when lakers are looking amazing he’s silent and has nothing to say 😹.
Dam i remember when Skip was gloating over Khawi signing to the Clippers dam look at how it all played out. Lakers dodged a bullet. When things are done in spite nothing good comes from it.
The whole franchise is cursed. Anyone who goes there never comes back the same. Even Billy Crystal hasn’t had a hit movie since he started going to Clippers games.
The brain shaw clip tells u everything u need to know. I loved kawhi until he hit that shot on the sixers. Dude was the best 2 way player in the league. And when thats what u are...u are the best PLAYER in the league
You sound foolish. How dare the LAC want a basketball player to play basketball when he's healthy enough to!? How are they abusing Kawhi when he has a say in when he plays or not? He's so abused he keeps signing contracts. The trainer was fired bc he was bad at his job...Kawhi demanded he be hired bc he suposedly knows Kawhi's body. Kawhi is barely ever healthy so they fired him. Every team so far has had to walk on eggshells around Kawhi & accept his unwarranted demands. Based on what Kawhi says & what we see, the trainer is saying a bunch of BS.
Thank you!! Clippers have went above and beyond to do right by Leonard. He’s gotten above and beyond superstar treatment from the Clippers for relatively little play. It’s his job to play basketball at the day, and the Clippers clear as day patience with him is visible to anybody with a working pair of eyes. They even extended him! He gets all the say in if he plays or not, doesn’t do back to backs, hires his friends, and family. Kawhi should be ashamed of this guy he brought around the Clippers organization after all they’ve done for Kawhi, and they continue paying him and treating him like a tier 1 superstar who plays when it’s clear Kawhi hasn’t lived up to the bill the Clippers are paying for his services. The least he could do is help mentor some of the younger guys with all his free time, and to find a way to contribute to the team if he can’t do it on the court, but he struggles to do that as well.
If a player with this kind of injury history, he should not be paid anywhere near the max because it cripples a franchise. The clippers literally can’t do anything because of lack of Kawhi’s availability and the salary cap. So because kawhi is ALWAYS injured and can’t play a full season and the playoffs he should have taken a pay cut. For his situation alone, I side with the franchise. Spending a lot to get him for him to be broken down and for Kawhi to command near to max money is WILD!
So what I’m actually understanding from this. Is all the hate, all the crap about Kawhi sitting out because he doesn’t want to play and just make money, is all wrong. The clippers have been absolutely demolishing Kawhi’s body and we blamed Kawhi for ignoring his body and going out and playing till his body tore apart.
It's a crazy thing to discover, as I've been saying to everyone that Kawhi does love the game, but he's getting killed for something that isn't even his fault. Me and others with the same mindset were laughed at and bashed worse than his knees. This along with other reasons is why I didn't renew my season pass for the NBA this year, because it's not worth watching what's essentially become sports entertainment. Like ffs save that garbage for the WWE if you want to make a fabricated storyline.
Yes blame the Clippers for wanting their star player to play basketball. Kawhi doesn't deserve sympathy he got all the money but is a part time player at best.
@@101noz101the thing is they promised they would care about his health. it’s like you signing a contract at work because they promised they would have your best interest only for them to secretly put you in harms way knowing how bad you already feel
This a classic he said-she said. Shelton the she in here is accusing the Clippers of heinous accusations and the Clippers the he in here is denying everything and saying that Shelton is wrong, and is trying to scapegoat out of court.
It's pretty obvious that Kawhi Leonard only cared about living in LA, and securing as much money as possible. That's why he's suddenly willing to turn a blind eye to the Clippers mismanagement of his injury.
Clips were over the cap. Warriors were over the cap. In a sign and trade, the Clips would have had to receive a bunch of bums in return for PG. They could've tried to find a 3rd team, but its much more complicated than what Floppy Green made it seem like. If making contracts work was so easy with the cap, PG would have signed with the Lakers in a heart beat.
I wish u stopped talking about the same stuff u make vids about yrs ago just to have a full length video..if u only have 4 mins to talk about the topic then just do that...get to the point!!!!!
He played the Lakers and sabotaged the Clippers. He thought he was on par with LeBron and KD. The Spurs built his legacy and Raptors were already knocking on the title's door before he came.
Cap. Clippers aren’t sabotaged either. They’ve have multiple max slots and being in LA with an owner like Ballmer they’ll remain a premiere free agent destination.
Hey Mike, for proper context, your videos should start with James Naismith inventing basketball, using peach baskets. Just a tip for your next Ben Simmons video.
Stop this cap Kawhi has sat out for a year for a dam paper cut he has his own team and gets 2nd opinions all the time. He plays when he wants the man hasn’t been healthy for the last decade.
I love that phrase, drafting Kwai Leonard help the spurs win their first championship with Leonard. Yes having a player makes it easier to play with said player.
The man's played one meaningful season in the last 8 years and people still expect him to do things. Just let him be. Clips were absolutely genius for trading for PG and signing Leonard. But after a few years of that stuff, they should have given up and just traded both guys. I mean hindsight is 20/20 but it looks like clips made all the wrong choices since then. Trading for guys they shouldn't have, and not trading guys they should have. They are now stuck in limbo, no present, no future, new stadium to watch James Harden who's too old and too slow to even turn a corner at the local YMCA pickup game. For couple of years, all we said was, if this clippers group can stay healthy, they are the best team in the league. Well this is the first year where that is no longer true. Even if Leonard and Harden play 82 games each, they are at best first-round exit team.
I'm curious... was it just an acl? I tore my acl, also my mcl and pcl, and 2 meniscus tears. My injury was always referred to as an acl injury, even tho it was more complicated than that. I fucked my knee up April 2022, had surgery July 2022, and spent the next year in Physio. Last year I was able to start gently running and doing mild layup and very small jumps. The improvement from last year to this year is huge, for better than I was expecting it to last year. But I'm still not 100%, and likely won't be. But I do feel like another year from now I feel that much closer to pre injury. So in my experience if it is a knee injury involving the acl, medical staff usually just referred to it as an acl injury despite it being a stage 3 ligament injury. Is this what's going on with his injury? Did he tear more than his acl? Because rehabbing the acl with the other ligaments intact is much quicker than rehabbing the acl without strong supporting ligaments. He's still scared of his knee. I see it everytime he goes up.
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He should have stayed in Toronto
Start over bro from spurs lol
Kawhi is on quiet retiring mode.
WRONG! KAWHI ruined KAWHI's career
@ he did honestly a mistake
How did bro not think he could build a legacy in Toronto? He won their first franchises championship, I’m sure after achieving that in your first year of a new team you’ve already started one to build off of and not take for granted.
It's Toronto bruh he just wanted to live in LA
@@mrsamuraiist He wanted to play with Paul George. PG said they almost signed with Toronto.
@@Knightice765 Yeah but he rather him and Paul George sign in LA.
LA > Toronto
Nobody wants to be a king in a village.
Kawhi’s biggest mistake was leaving the Raptors. 60 win team the year after and had best medical staff in the league.
His biggest mistake was leaving the Spurs. The Raptors trophy is a San Antonio trophy. They couldnt have won it without SATX.
@@jasonb993stfu goofy, the 2019 banner don’t say the spurs
The Raptors trophy is a USA trophy.
@@MysTicBiGz It's not the olympics, lol.
@@MysTicBiGz Literally a 60 win team the year after lmao.
He's injured and won't be able to play. He blows off team execs, ignores his teammates, and gaslights the fans. It is a pattern. The difference is the Spurs realized he doesn't really want to play and got rid of him. The Clips were too desperate and are trying to hold on to their false hope.
The Spurs medical staff was right. He has a degenerative condition that'll never be right. He and the media blamed the Spurs and he forced his way out. I'm waiting for the media to apologize to the Spurs for all the bad mouthing they did. Of course that won't happen.
Facts
All true. But I think we all know the media isn't apologizing for a damn thing anytime soon lol
boom. love it. 10000% agree.
The most coddled player in NBA history.
It’s crazy how people couldve accused the spurs of such things. A classic franchise with one of the most liked coaches in history. I bought it back then but now…
Why are people still talking about kawhi? He been retired for like 10 years now.
I mean, he did pop up for a Cameo in like 2019. So I guess we are hoping he might still bless us with another guest staring at least once some time soon. Just like the rock in the last Wrestling Mania.
He was finals MVP 10 years ago
Uncle Dennis made sure he got his bag though. Kawhi will make $200 million for the next three years without playing a single game
Because when he’s playing he is basically the best player in the NBA 🤷🏻♂️
@@gastonruiz4061 not really, he was part of a conversation but not to the level of KD or Bron during that time
Kawhi ruined himself by signing for the clippers
He got to go home and get paid and not have to play. He knew what he was doin
Na he got 2 rings already. He just wanted live in LA and that point all about getting most money possible and he doing that.
@@Viserysrule3 I don’t think it was ever about money for Kawhi. The Raptors would have given him a dump truck full of money to stay. In his mind, he wanted to build a legacy for his hometown team and he had every intention of the team being legit contenders. It just didn’t work out that way was all.
And vice versa. Ballmer committed malpractice by trading all those assets to get PG so he could also get Leonard.
He should have stayed in Toronto
All I know is this wasn’t a Spurs issue!
sure sure . the only team immune from this problem was Toronto maybe Spurs and Clips should hired better medical staff
@@jaerockchalk3216 Nah, even when he got a second opinion, they didn't know what was wrong with his leg. The problem was that Pop went public saying the doctors said there's nothing wrong with him and can play, and Ginobli yellled at him during the players only meeting. Whole team turned on him to pressure him to play, publicly. Toronto has issues too regarding his load management, but they kept it all under wraps. Clips went too far and couldn't keep it under wraps anymore.
Spurs haven’t had a single issue like this in 30 years. Kawhi was the issue. Insane that people even try to argue that it was the Spurs fault. And I say that as a certified Spurs hater.
@@Kingofsweaters the only other problematic Spur was Stephen Jackson. But everyone knew he was problematic to begin with.
@@rongiefaustino8867 Nah Robert Horry too… piping Tim Duncan’s ex-wife during their time as teammates on the DL even if it wasn’t public
Kawhi almost had an entire Canada supporting him.
When the same problem pops up everywhere you go - you’re the problem
never happened in Toronto? maybe teams should hire better medical staff
@@jaerockchalk3216 only was there one year, for all we know he cleared out before he pulled the same crap
@@jaerockchalk3216bro had no intention of staying in Toronto lets be real
Clearly didn't see his gait after the finals, bro was done for.
Pop was right
Choosing a guy who is always hurt almost never works out.
Spurs look like geniuses. They got rid of him early and got Wemby a few years later. Clippers got fleeced. 😅
Raptors were the biggest winners in this ordeal
A few years later?? The Spurs been dog water pretty much since he left. He’s won a ring since he left, Spurs haven’t won a thing since he left besides the draft lottery.
you make no sense 😂😂😂 Kawhi left & won a ring lmaooo Spurs havent done ANYTHING since he left
Wemby won't win anything with the spurs he is gonna eat up most of the player salary in a few years and they will stay at the bottom
@@JaeRocReactsexcept the Spurs are back on the rise while the Clippers are not
Uncle Dennis the reason Kawhi not complaining. We heard he asked the Lakers for Mansions on the back end of the deal. The Clippers clearly did deals with his Uncle behind the scenes
kawhi need to retire
What you guys fail to realize is that this would’ve happened on any team he went to.
Exactly
WOAH BRO JUS DROPPED A MOVIE ON KAWHI LEONARD😳
30 minutes... I mean it's RUclips so ig...
It's not hard to figure out his knee is permanently ruined much like Lonzos injury. He needed to bite the bullet and rebuild it and take 2/3 years off, but he wanted that payday and he's got less time to spare
Last payday 2 rings two mvps good career. He would be a good what if mode in 2k
@@Chris-e3o2u Kawhi didn’t need the payday. He was getting paid no matter his next move. He wanted to come home and build a dynasty. Unfortunately for him, it backfired in the worst possible way.
@@TheRealDeal_81 yeah you're right about that. I was just thinking in terms of his age that he didn't want to take 2 years off this late in his career and took the chance to keep playing hurt.
@@Chris-e3o2u part of him probably assumed the Clippers’ medical staff was of the same calibre as Toronto’s. The way the Raptors load managed and rehabbed him was top notch and they didn’t pressure him. And it’s pretty clear that there was also pressure from up top in the Clippers to get a good ROI on him. Ballmer had that win now mentality, pushed him too hard and now we see the results. Also classless how they treated PG when it came time to re-sign him.
@@TheRealDeal_81 Literally paid Harden before PG like wtf is the the clippers priority
Kawhi Leonard's knee ruined his career, kawhi ruined the clippers and finessed hundreds of millions of dollars from the team lol
Imagine this kind of drama in the beginning of the season
Kawhi should’ve stayed in Toronto AT LEAST one more year.
Kawhi bought that huge house in LA while he was with the Raptors. That was a huge sign he wasn't sticking around.
Kawhi's uncle ruined Kawhi
The media and Kawhi owes the Spurs an apology
Media needs to stop with the "Kawhi is the greatest Raptor" narrative. He is the greatest player to be a Raptor, but he is NOT the greatest Raptor.
Vince carter was 😂
Fair enough
@@EMItilIdie Vince no question
Jeremy Lin is the greatest Raptor
Velociraptor is the greatest Raptor
that zaza foul really changed the course of thee spurs' future
Spurs were up by 26 when Zaza pulled that mess. We woulda easily won that series. F Pachulia forever
Fr, a two step closeout after he's shooting already to slide that foot under. Super dirty.
It changed the whole NBA. Spurs vs Cavs Finals would’ve been sick.
He could of had a legacy in Toronto, that's a bs excuse.
As a Raptors fan, I agree. As a purely basketball decision he made a really dumb one. Could’ve run it back with the exact same team. But as a purely personal decision he did what was smart for him - going home, getting paid and not even having to play that much. Kawhi is a great player but doesn’t have the mamba mentality. Kobe would’ve made a purely basketball decision.
@@Cp6uja facts
yup he chose money over championships.
i dont think he wanted to live in siberia
@@jaerockchalk3216 I mean he already got 2 chips and 2 final mvps. It's not like he really needs to prove anything more so I kinda get his decision in going home and getting paid.
32:01 I’m loving the longer videos
Made it to the end, great video Mike we need more vids like this cause all the allegations and the insight of the trainer puts a whole new twist
That extension from last year feels more like hush money now, cuz the contract itself made no sense
If he takes that long to fully recover from an injury/surgery then he should have retired. That isn't normal for a pro athlete.
LOL Kawhi's camp just wants to squeeze out more money.
The uncle !!
Ever since the Spurs saga, I don't really trust kawhai or his team
True, I don't trust Kawhi for anything, he might be the greatest con man of the century
Ever since the Spurs saga, I don't trust the Spurs. Pop not always right. Spurs not always doing the right thing. They tried to cover for Josh Primo too, and let that go on for way too long. They are great to deveoping players and constructing teams, but sometimes they are just plain wrong too.
@@meep0455 “Kawhi’s camp” a.k.a. Uncle Dennis
@@DemonKingBadgernah Ben Simmons.
He did it to himself tbh. Bro had a whole country in his hand basically
He could have built a legacy in SA. He was the new star for Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili to hand the torch too...
Duncan already retired. Edit: Parker yellled at him that he played when he was a hundred times more injured or something. But Edit:Ginobli maybe!
@@texchu8331 That was Parker who made that remark. Parker was practically done after his own injury.
@@hajime2k Yea, I it was Parker. My bad. I done Ginobli wrong.
@@texchu8331 to be honest, had Duncan still with the Spurs that season, I doubt Kawhi would have left... He is the glue to that Spurs franchise even at old age as he makes things work with his leadership and calm demeanor... As much as I love Ginobili and Parker, I think they aren't the leaders that put the team together to work, it was always Tim Duncan and when he retired, the leadership also retired... Also, if anything, Duncan would have been the most understanding of Kawhi's situation considering he also once missed the entirety of the playoffs I believe in 2000 due to injuries...
@@AlexisCando-z1p Ah, yes, Duncan. I could see that. They did seek his help later to convince Kawhi to stay, but it was way too late, and it was awkward because he wasn't on the team anymore. Yea, if he was still on the team during that time...
It's been said before, and it will be said again: Kawhi Leonard never should have left Toronto.
Kawhi should have stayed in Toronto. Most likely would have repeated in ‘19-20 had the roster stayed together. Hindsight and all, but that would have been the smart move.
the intro got me wondering if Kawhi had basically decided he would sit out a certain amount of games per year to extend his career. There used to be injury reports but it has changed to player load management related X-outs
Zaza started the injury with that dirty move
He gooned Kawhi 😡
@@victoriashiba 💀
To be fair the Clippers gave up EVERYTHING to get him and PG. I can sympathize with the organization trying to maximize on their return, trying to get actual results!
Right on. They gave him the keys to the organization
Still f**ed up of them to ruin someone's wellbeing for a chip.
@@All_Glory nah, the Clippers gave up too much for PG
@@rongiefaustino8867 kawhi said he wouldn’t sign if PG wasn’t coming. So in a sense the Clippers paid all of that capital for both Kawhi and PG.
How is making your best asset indefinitely hobbled getting maximum return on investment, typically doctors and trainers should be deciding on him playing, not greedy ass shitty GMs
The same thing happened with Grant Hill. They misdiagnosed his injuries and send him out there to get hurt. At least Kawhi was able to win multiple championships before he completely broke down.
Isaiah Thomas too. Danny ainge covered it up and pawned him off to the kings
Bro had a 60 win team in Toronto. I'm just saying...
i dont think he wanted to live in siberia
@@michaelmagic988 😂 stop this. The weather is literally New York weather.
@@gushung0 i just checked its about 15 degrees colder in winter in toronto than new york which is a lot
@@michaelmagic988 not so much nyc weather, but upstate NY weather, with a little less snow than buffalo cause they get the worst end of the lake effect snow
@@michaelmagic988dumbest thing I ever heard. NY, Buffalo, Detroit, Boston, Chicago, Minnesota and North Dakota are just as cold. Most people are in their homes, driving or working indoors in the winter time. Just a sad excuse from you lol.
Kawhi needs to look into the same meniscus/ligament transplant Lonzo did. That way he can take the next two years off, then come back just in time to bilk another $100 million out of Steve Balmer.
Kawhi always uses health as an excuse. Read between the lines my dude.
Difference is Lonzo actually wants to play basketball
the difference is based on the video and lawsuit the clippers were not accepting that long of a wait like the bulls did.
@@jasonb993Not an excuse, when at least the last 8-9 years he’s had the same knee issue.
@@101noz101 And Lonzo is much younger and comes with lower expectations.
Made it to the end… great video and it was full of information that really helps understand what went on with Kawhi and the Clippers… he really put himself back into a bad situation and the same situation he feared with the spurs.
Imagine a basketball team wanting their star player to... wait for it... PLAY BASKETBALL. Stop coddling this baby.
kawhi kinda fucked up on a few accounts as well: 1. he shoud've declined the max and taken less and said to the organization "im taking less even though i'm worth the max because I wont be able to play as much as a typical star player, I need to properly rehab and load mange for the length of the contract or until im fully 100 percent." did he have the integrity to do that, no.
2. if im forced to play when im not fully recovered from any injury i will go to the players association and file a formal complaint where 3rd party doctors may get involved to asses the injury and rehabilitation procedure and length .... again he didnt do shit like this, if he was smart and had more integrity he would have laid that out from the very beginning after being in that situation in san antonio
@@101noz101 for sure, my point is he should have stayed in Toronto… he really didn’t need to search out any other situation. That team would have given him the time to get right through each injury. LA is too big of a market, with too much aspirations to wait for anything. I get it. They had the right to demand to get what they paid for as well.
@@KrazieSevin 💯 for sure, my point is Kawhi honestly should have stayed in Toronto instead of wanting to go home to LA. I’ve thought this ever since he made the deal to leave Toronto. They laid it out there. The organization could have basically been his. The entire city laid itself at his feet and he wanted to go home 🤦🏾♂️.
lives in a mansion in SanDiego after spending a year in Canada freezing his ass off. Good for him, he got two bags, lives in California and gets to play half the time for the full pay. don't hate the player hate the game.
Kawhi uncle mentoring him wrong i sense greed from his uncle
Funny how he played 60 games in his contract year and the dumbass clippers gave him an extension now hes blaming them
He isnt blaming anybody? Its literally a seperate lawsuit that he is the subject in. Yall just Lenoard haters cause trash ass clippers are an indefinite 1st round exit now
Sooooooo do the spurs get an apology out of all this or...? Because now it seems like they were an unfortunate casualty from all this tampering.
Yah man. Hopefully this lawsuit sets the record straight regarding the false narrative that spurs mismanaged kawhi...
That’s not what tampering means
LOL. The clippers didn’t “ruin” Kawhi Leonard. They gave that guy the keys to the organization. He wanted PG, and he got him. They’ve given him everything. And in return he’s hurt.
But when it’s payday, he’s out there!!
He got paid after the new year then he was suspiciously injured before the playoffs
Went home and got paid. Got the whole team being patient with you. Definitely not on the Clips.
We don't know the entire story of this situation, but it just seems like to me that Kawhi is a very selfish player.
His doctor never wants him to play. So why doesn't he follow his doctor's advice and quit?
Think you mean his strength and conditioning coach., aka the only guy he listens to who is crazy and fills kawhi’s head full of nonsense.
KaWheelChair Leonard's off season is spent planning out his regular season's injuries ♿️
lol
He is legally able to use handicap parking spaces
KaWheelChair! 💀 😂
It be corny ass comments like these made by unathletic obese mfs that just ruin everything
Did we watch the same video or we being willfully ignorant
Here to stop kids from saying first
That's good, but how are you going to stop immature folks from saying second or even third. You know there's going to be dummies starting that.
second or even third
First
F I R S T
Is this why they're called bots? You can program them to say whatever you want.
Definitely love the longer video delving into everything!
Lakers fans do anything to talk bad about the clippers
Exactly. The Clippers were still wiping the floor with the PPP Loan Lakers with or without Kawhi on the court.
Bro dropped a 30 min on kawhi
Maybe a tribute for total games kawhi going to play this season
spurs were right.
At the end of the day this is all Zaza Pachulias fault. Garbage ass player
Zaza is smoking on that Kawhi Pack
Drama seems to follow this guy around and he never says a word.
Spurs fans LOVED him. Then hated him. But they are over the whole ordeal now.
Raptors LOVED him, wanted him to stay and now probably dislike him for leaving and making them rebuild. Still appreciative for the chip.
Now the Clippers were thrilled to sign him and now their fan base seems to be turning on him considering how everything has panned out.
Kawhi will get booed in San Antonio for the rest of his career
@@TheGorillaGuerrilla his uncle was the reason for all of that drama
Clippers fans aren’t turning on Kawhi. A few jackasses don’t make up the whole fan base. We love Kawhi, we love George.
As a spurs fan. Bitter spurs fan! ....I hate him he's doing the same bs to get a check ..karma looks so nice
As a Toronto resident, Raptors do not dislike Kawhi, we completely understand that he wanted to go home. We are extremely happy that we got a championship out of him from a huge risk of trading away DeRozan. Kawhi will forever be respected in Toronto. Just a shame because we would've run it back with the same team, just more confidence.
Khawhi knows this is it. No team is gonna want any parts of that after this point
take note the one doing the lawsuit is a strength and conditioning coach not a medical expert. clippers are obviously following real medical experts.
Oh boy, where to begin...
What makes this whole thing even more insane is the fact Clippers brought in Jerry West as a special consultant to help them fix their entire franchise. He taught them how to draft properly, develop and build their roster; his wisdom was a much needed addition to a team who desperately needed it. I don't know if Lawrence Frank is disregarding it for the sake of job security, but the theme overall has been "love." Clipper's greatest weakness is wanting to be loved, respected and worshiped like Lakers; their greatest fear is irrelevancy. Every time Clippers did something wrong and it was reported on, the meme of "Same ol' Clippers" rears its ugly head. Even with a new good owner in Steve Ballmer, the feelings of jealousy, envy and vengeance remain, and that is the result of being under the thumb of Donald Sterling for decades; Clippers have simply inherited Sterling's behavior.
For a person like myself who has kept an eye on this franchise ever since the Chris Paul veto in 2011, I worry about the Clipper's future. If Shelton wins his case, there's no telling what the NBA might do.
These long vids are prime for my commute - I’m a fan of this documentary style for sure
This is truly the end he’s going to finish his career like D Rose
Um rose never won different entirely
@@vipergaming6965 I meant as in max contracts and opportunities
@@neibur2 chips 2 fmvp… not bad at all
@@paulatello4993 guess you didn’t read what I said
Definitely enjoying the longer videos
This long video was a good one. Might be your best yet.
Very informative! Great job!
Bro calls himself a lakers fan but only reports on them when there’s something negative to report. Now when lakers are looking amazing he’s silent and has nothing to say 😹.
They are 4 games in LMAOO. The season just started kid calm down. 😂
Dam i remember when Skip was gloating over Khawi signing to the Clippers dam look at how it all played out. Lakers dodged a bullet. When things are done in spite nothing good comes from it.
Lakers fans delusional af. Spite lol jus cuz they choose not to sign wit the lakers u think it’s personal 🤣🤣
7:15 the lawsuit obviously why is this a 30 min video lol
Congratulations for 1 millón suscribers
Do more long videos like this Mike I fw it
hey i remember you before you reached 1 million subscribers... the come up is real
12:07 Deontay Wilder: TO THIS DAY!
The whole franchise is cursed. Anyone who goes there never comes back the same. Even Billy Crystal hasn’t had a hit movie since he started going to Clippers games.
I like the longer form videos Mike!
The brain shaw clip tells u everything u need to know.
I loved kawhi until he hit that shot on the sixers. Dude was the best 2 way player in the league. And when thats what u are...u are the best PLAYER in the league
You sound foolish. How dare the LAC want a basketball player to play basketball when he's healthy enough to!? How are they abusing Kawhi when he has a say in when he plays or not? He's so abused he keeps signing contracts. The trainer was fired bc he was bad at his job...Kawhi demanded he be hired bc he suposedly knows Kawhi's body. Kawhi is barely ever healthy so they fired him. Every team so far has had to walk on eggshells around Kawhi & accept his unwarranted demands. Based on what Kawhi says & what we see, the trainer is saying a bunch of BS.
Thank you!! Clippers have went above and beyond to do right by Leonard. He’s gotten above and beyond superstar treatment from the Clippers for relatively little play. It’s his job to play basketball at the day, and the Clippers clear as day patience with him is visible to anybody with a working pair of eyes. They even extended him! He gets all the say in if he plays or not, doesn’t do back to backs, hires his friends, and family. Kawhi should be ashamed of this guy he brought around the Clippers organization after all they’ve done for Kawhi, and they continue paying him and treating him like a tier 1 superstar who plays when it’s clear Kawhi hasn’t lived up to the bill the Clippers are paying for his services. The least he could do is help mentor some of the younger guys with all his free time, and to find a way to contribute to the team if he can’t do it on the court, but he struggles to do that as well.
If a player with this kind of injury history, he should not be paid anywhere near the max because it cripples a franchise. The clippers literally can’t do anything because of lack of Kawhi’s availability and the salary cap. So because kawhi is ALWAYS injured and can’t play a full season and the playoffs he should have taken a pay cut. For his situation alone, I side with the franchise. Spending a lot to get him for him to be broken down and for Kawhi to command near to max money is WILD!
So what I’m actually understanding from this. Is all the hate, all the crap about Kawhi sitting out because he doesn’t want to play and just make money, is all wrong. The clippers have been absolutely demolishing Kawhi’s body and we blamed Kawhi for ignoring his body and going out and playing till his body tore apart.
It's a crazy thing to discover, as I've been saying to everyone that Kawhi does love the game, but he's getting killed for something that isn't even his fault. Me and others with the same mindset were laughed at and bashed worse than his knees. This along with other reasons is why I didn't renew my season pass for the NBA this year, because it's not worth watching what's essentially become sports entertainment. Like ffs save that garbage for the WWE if you want to make a fabricated storyline.
Yes blame the Clippers for wanting their star player to play basketball. Kawhi doesn't deserve sympathy he got all the money but is a part time player at best.
@@101noz101the thing is they promised they would care about his health. it’s like you signing a contract at work because they promised they would have your best interest only for them to secretly put you in harms way knowing how bad you already feel
Do more long videos
I'm right with you on Lawrence Frank. I'm flabbergasted that he still is the Clippers GM.
How do the clippers sell this much bruh....
A million subs still looks so good
This a classic he said-she said. Shelton the she in here is accusing the Clippers of heinous accusations and the Clippers the he in here is denying everything and saying that Shelton is wrong, and is trying to scapegoat out of court.
Longer vids going crazy!
Congrats on a Mil 🎉
Nah. Kawhi ruined his career when he trusted his uncle who was only after the money and he's like him now too.
It's pretty obvious that Kawhi Leonard only cared about living in LA, and securing as much money as possible. That's why he's suddenly willing to turn a blind eye to the Clippers mismanagement of his injury.
Clips were over the cap. Warriors were over the cap. In a sign and trade, the Clips would have had to receive a bunch of bums in return for PG. They could've tried to find a 3rd team, but its much more complicated than what Floppy Green made it seem like. If making contracts work was so easy with the cap, PG would have signed with the Lakers in a heart beat.
I would feel bad for this dude if he didn't try to sabotage the Lakers while trying to make his little "power move" with paul george to the Clippers.
I forgot about that
I wish u stopped talking about the same stuff u make vids about yrs ago just to have a full length video..if u only have 4 mins to talk about the topic then just do that...get to the point!!!!!
Fire 🔥 video bro
He played the Lakers and sabotaged the Clippers.
He thought he was on par with LeBron and KD. The Spurs built his legacy and Raptors were already knocking on the title's door before he came.
Cap. Clippers aren’t sabotaged either. They’ve have multiple max slots and being in LA with an owner like Ballmer they’ll remain a premiere free agent destination.
Allegedly……obviously in a lawsuit the person filing is painting themselves in the best light possible
Hey Mike, for proper context, your videos should start with James Naismith inventing basketball, using peach baskets.
Just a tip for your next Ben Simmons video.
Stop this cap Kawhi has sat out for a year for a dam paper cut he has his own team and gets 2nd opinions all the time. He plays when he wants the man hasn’t been healthy for the last decade.
raps deff could of managed his injuries ( not if they did a pg trade like clippers) that trade knee capped them
I love that phrase, drafting Kwai Leonard help the spurs win their first championship with Leonard. Yes having a player makes it easier to play with said player.
The man's played one meaningful season in the last 8 years and people still expect him to do things. Just let him be. Clips were absolutely genius for trading for PG and signing Leonard. But after a few years of that stuff, they should have given up and just traded both guys. I mean hindsight is 20/20 but it looks like clips made all the wrong choices since then. Trading for guys they shouldn't have, and not trading guys they should have. They are now stuck in limbo, no present, no future, new stadium to watch James Harden who's too old and too slow to even turn a corner at the local YMCA pickup game. For couple of years, all we said was, if this clippers group can stay healthy, they are the best team in the league. Well this is the first year where that is no longer true. Even if Leonard and Harden play 82 games each, they are at best first-round exit team.
The clips didn’t offer him a pay cut, they offered him the same as Kawhi, but he wanted a no trade clause
Such a good video, had no idea it was this bad. So glad he won a ship for the Raps!
I'm curious... was it just an acl? I tore my acl, also my mcl and pcl, and 2 meniscus tears. My injury was always referred to as an acl injury, even tho it was more complicated than that. I fucked my knee up April 2022, had surgery July 2022, and spent the next year in Physio. Last year I was able to start gently running and doing mild layup and very small jumps. The improvement from last year to this year is huge, for better than I was expecting it to last year. But I'm still not 100%, and likely won't be. But I do feel like another year from now I feel that much closer to pre injury.
So in my experience if it is a knee injury involving the acl, medical staff usually just referred to it as an acl injury despite it being a stage 3 ligament injury. Is this what's going on with his injury? Did he tear more than his acl? Because rehabbing the acl with the other ligaments intact is much quicker than rehabbing the acl without strong supporting ligaments.
He's still scared of his knee. I see it everytime he goes up.