NEW Campagnolo Super Record Wireless Groupset! | First Look

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @gcn
    @gcn  Год назад +24

    Let us know your thoughts on the new Campagnolo Super Record Wireless! 👇

    • @AlessandroPili
      @AlessandroPili Год назад +13

      Waste of materials. 5000€ for what? Bah.

    • @theindependentlifestyle
      @theindependentlifestyle Год назад +2

      what!!! IP69K🤣🤣🤣 water proof rating? NICE🤣🤣🤣

    • @Rifqiqiqi
      @Rifqiqiqi Год назад +15

      groupset so expensive, it feels like a hit in the balls 🤣

    • @larsdohmen6796
      @larsdohmen6796 Год назад +11

      Expensive, doesnt work as good as shimano and is worse then sram in almost every way... With that cones the insanely ugly derrailleur set... This just isn't it imo

    • @vidarnedreb7884
      @vidarnedreb7884 Год назад +21

      I am so sorry for Campy, but I’d rather stay with my Record 11sp mech groupset. Served me fine for a decade and lot’s of mileage left in it.

  • @andyharbin411
    @andyharbin411 Год назад +41

    Quite possibly the best video you’ve done. Entertaining and informative. GCN is all over it. Random guy giving cup shots may need to be a regular.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад

      Hahaha well make it part of his contract 😂

  • @MrCarl1066
    @MrCarl1066 Год назад +61

    This is simply one of the best videos you have done. Excellent coverage, I love the close-up shots and the punching was just laugh-out-loud. Keep up the excellent work.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад

      Great to hear that you enjoyed the video! What do you make of this Groupset? ⚙

    • @MrCarl1066
      @MrCarl1066 Год назад

      @@gcn This makes me want to get a bike fitted with this groupset. It takes me back to when I started cycling and Campag was the pinnacle of cycling tech and yes it was a few years ago.

  • @nathanielyoung3479
    @nathanielyoung3479 Год назад +200

    Please keep the punching included for future product launches! Keeps the marketing BS out 😂

    • @ErikTrak
      @ErikTrak Год назад +3

      Is that called balls-eye?

    • @junkandcrapamen
      @junkandcrapamen Год назад +12

      This entire video is marketing BS

    • @GCNuser123
      @GCNuser123 Год назад +16

      @@junkandcrapamen sorry you feel that way the intention is to present all the information clearly, so you can make up your own mind👍🏼

    • @junkandcrapamen
      @junkandcrapamen Год назад +4

      @@GCNuser123 Sure it is, bike salesman.

    • @troycollett8540
      @troycollett8540 Год назад +1

      What marketing bs are you talking about

  • @padraic8873
    @padraic8873 Год назад +11

    Well that made me laugh out loud at lunch, I think Ollie deserves a raise after this video. Hopefully he did it all in one take.

  • @harryrowland4734
    @harryrowland4734 Год назад +31

    I'm really happy with the 10sp Record and have enough spares to last until I die.
    Also, when I go cycling, It's to escape life's complications, that's technology and electrickery

    • @KuriReevel
      @KuriReevel Год назад +6

      I've two bikes with 11-speed Record-Super Record and Chorus and one with 10-speed Record. 10-speed Record is the best! Bombproof, basically don't need readjustment.

    • @Semeyaza
      @Semeyaza Год назад

      Exactly.
      My old Chorus 10 is still going strong and way more than I can possibly put to good use... also 4500 euros for a groupset is insane for an amateur.

  • @melomane01
    @melomane01 Год назад +12

    1) The manual overdrive is a great idea. I drove 300 km this weekend to meet with friends for rides and my SRAM batteries got partially drained. I will need to remove my batteries in the future.
    2) I would agree that the front and rear derailleurs have different power requirements. However, a quick Google search reveals that SRAM has a patent on interchangeable batteries (European Patent Office - EP3165439A1)
    3) This is a good review of the groupset features, benefits and the technological choices made by Campagnolo. I would also like an opinion video comparing this groupset with others from Shimano and SRAM.
    4) FYI, as a former recreational hockey player, I can testify to the effectiveness of a jock strap/cup… ;-)

  • @povertyspec9651
    @povertyspec9651 Год назад +4

    I have a NOS Record 10 group with Super Record 11 carbon 5-arm crank and Super Record rim brakes on my 1997 Bianchi Ti Megatube. The pinnacle of performance and reliability.

  • @jasonreynolds1715
    @jasonreynolds1715 Год назад +4

    Love how the rear mech is inspired by the size and styling of the Terminator’s arm. Campag Italian heritage right there. Bellissima!

  • @aaronpopstar
    @aaronpopstar Год назад +7

    As a long standing Shimano Di2 rider I recently went to SR EPS. It took a bit of getting used to but with the ability to set up the shifter switches to my desired layout the thumb shifters make perfect sense. I only don't like the fact that you don't have as much customisation with how the sequential shift works compared to Di2, but the brakes are incredible and it looks amazing too. So I was glad I didn't wait for the new SR wireless groupset to fit to my new bike. It doesn't look as nice, and as a TOP TIER groupset, this will only be ridden by very competent riders who don't need the even closer ratios that was was currently available on the outgoing SR EPS. For me 2X13 would have been a better way to go which would have given Campag a USP and as it is electric to stop issues with chain angles it could have been programmed to not use 1-13 or 2-1 (front chainring-rear cassette). Maybe they should have gone semi wireless like Shimano or kept it wired to keep the front and rear mechs looking stylish as this is what Campag has been so renowned for, style! They should have also kept the thumb shifter but added the ability to set the buttons to your own choice instead of pre-programmed choices. Seeing the comments on here I would be thinking an updated V2 wireless will come sooner rather than later!

    • @baysidessi
      @baysidessi Год назад

      I hope you're correct. I've been riding DA and decided to go with SR EPS because of lead times on the DA. Still don't have my bike and already and I'm wondering if I made the correct decision.

    • @aaronpopstar
      @aaronpopstar Год назад

      ​@@baysidessi Well as I purchased an Italian bike so I had to go all out Italian 😉, down to every last component (I know it's a little vain of me) except pedals. I also put a set of Ultra Bora WTO's on and these wheels are amazing. If I had NOT gone down the Italian route with bike and wheels then I would have gone DA, even though I think the disc brake rotors and callipers don't look good on Shimano. As I am not at such a level that I am riding at over 20mph for 100 miles, I know that SR or DA is more than enough for me, but SR EPS, it just looks so nice and has such a lovely feel to it. DA is superior in its programmability and maybe smoother shifting but not enough to stop me from wanting SR EPS (shifting is fast on EPS). If you are going for a classy bike like a C68 (like I did) then SR EPS is the perfect combo, if I was going for a Madone or Foil or something aero I would have probably gone DA and put up with the look of the brakes. BTW, SR EPS shifting is set up default a little weird so after experimenting I did go for Shifting D setup which uses the left and right shifter on the brake leavers to go up and down the rear cassette (like SRAM) and then the thumb shifters to do the up and down the chainrings. For me that is the best set up.

  • @alfyoung9299
    @alfyoung9299 Год назад +20

    Ollie, ridden Campag since 1984. Thats a lovely looking set. Do you think they might let me test a group.. permanently 😂...
    Always engineered so well.
    However i bet that I would have to sell most of my body to afford it...😮

    • @justim4545
      @justim4545 Год назад +2

      5 tousand money pounds for the groupo. Taking the piss

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад +2

      Hahaha nice try Alf! Do you think you'll be upgrading to the modern campy parts? 👀

  • @WW226
    @WW226 Год назад +5

    The mysterious yellow man was a beautiful touch 💛

  • @hugobci
    @hugobci Год назад +27

    I love how bike innovation can complicate simple things. For example, the manual shutdown of the system is genius! To solve a problem that only exists because electronic shifting come to solve no problem at all

    • @CharlieMetcalf
      @CharlieMetcalf Год назад +2

      I 100% agree.

    • @Semeyaza
      @Semeyaza Год назад +1

      Well, it solves one problem, electronic shifting I mean, it helps rise the prices, so... 😅

    • @Bendersnatchling
      @Bendersnatchling Год назад +2

      I mean...set the gears once and that's it.
      I have SRAM Red eTap (11 speed from a few years back) and Ultegra R8000 mechanical.
      I honestly don't see a big difference. You have to move the lever more, but that can't be the reason to pay so much more.
      What I really, REALLY like about the sram eTap, is that I don't have so many cables. But there are enough integrated solutions out there.
      I did my first big tour this year, from Frankfurt to the Mediterranean Sea (Sète, France) and I never thought twice about what bike I would pick.
      The one with the mechanical Groupset ofc!

    • @dennishaughton4554
      @dennishaughton4554 5 месяцев назад

      I love my electronic shifting. It’s not necessary but it’s great!

  • @a1yallop
    @a1yallop Год назад +5

    Brilliant video Ollie, as an Italian man I've always used campy on my bikes. I'm desperately trying to convince myself that four and half grand is worth it for a groupset, haven't done it yet but I'll keep trying.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад +1

      Keep it up Frank! It'll be worth it 👀

  • @paulmorrison30
    @paulmorrison30 Год назад +1

    One of the funniest GCN videos I’ve seen in a very long time 😂😂😂

  • @outdoors2476
    @outdoors2476 Год назад +1

    Just came by to say this is a wild ride considering 40 yrs ago I was super excited w my stock nuevo records on my Bianchi.

  • @pascalpba6628
    @pascalpba6628 Год назад +2

    Fratelli d'Italia I love your bikes and Campagnolo ! 🇮🇹

  • @oatmonster
    @oatmonster Год назад +53

    Hope the groupset is successful for them, but right now it's looking a lot like the "SRAM eTap we have at home"

    • @lemonshire1
      @lemonshire1 Год назад +9

      For a much higher price

    • @leskennedy
      @leskennedy Год назад +6

      And you can't swap batteries front to rear if you ran out of juice on the road.

    • @fkrr5
      @fkrr5 Год назад +4

      Exactly, at this point I'll just buy Etap for half the money

    • @beyond8981
      @beyond8981 Год назад +3

      RIP Campy

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Год назад +3

      @@beyond8981 they're fine, they've always been much more expensive than the rest and haven't had an issue suckering people into buying their stuff

  • @XhristinaMacey
    @XhristinaMacey Год назад +13

    I’ll stick to one 105, cable group set thanks x

    • @MrBusunglueck
      @MrBusunglueck Год назад +2

      Which is the lighter option aswell.

    • @danielrussell9416
      @danielrussell9416 Год назад

      105 works great and it's inexpensive. I have a spare grouppo just sitting in boxes to get me through the next decade.

  • @beyond8981
    @beyond8981 Год назад +6

    Thank you GCN for getting this to us so quickly - very entertaining as always!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад

      Your welcome! We love the chance to ride new tech, we couldn't wait to show you this beauty 😍

  • @richm.3477
    @richm.3477 Год назад +2

    Thank you for the hard-hitting review.

  • @MrBusunglueck
    @MrBusunglueck Год назад +5

    Nice, at 5:50 you can see marks on the frame (from a dropped chain)

  • @Team5TL
    @Team5TL Год назад +57

    I personally think the styling leaves something to be desired, having only seen photos and videos. Not what I would expect from Campy. Campy parts should be absolutely beautiful and function effortlessly, damn near forever.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Год назад +8

      Haven't liked the look of a single high end Campy groupo since they started using carbon. SRAM and Shimano is definitely less ugly

    • @dainiusvysniauskas2049
      @dainiusvysniauskas2049 Год назад +4

      It's italian product, it's not meant to be functional

    • @selcukcilek555
      @selcukcilek555 Год назад +2

      @@veganpotterthevegan With Dura Ace on the top. Shimano just knows how to have it done in a epic ,cool industrial design. Also the branding wasn't Campy's strength. They just stopped lettering it with Campagnolo and 11 speed, carbon or alike. But Dura-Ace was always Dura-Ace.

    • @stevec6232
      @stevec6232 Год назад +6

      That rear mech looks like original di2 ultegra! Sorry sram red looks better!

    • @discbrakefan
      @discbrakefan Год назад

      @@dainiusvysniauskas2049 Never enjoyed Italian cars, motorbikes or groupsets, have you?

  • @philipcooper8297
    @philipcooper8297 Год назад +33

    All I want is a high end mechanical group set.

    • @hutchy_4297
      @hutchy_4297 Год назад +9

      dura-ace 9100

    • @WarHammerWH
      @WarHammerWH Год назад +5

      I have Dura-Ace 7900 and am perfectly happy with it. No superfluous do-dads…

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад +2

      They are out there! Campy do some great options if electronic shifting isn't your thing 🙌

    • @ribbyramone
      @ribbyramone Год назад +3

      12sp chorus will do just find, SR if your wallet requires some weight saving

  • @ViveSemelBeneVivere
    @ViveSemelBeneVivere Год назад +3

    Great overview by Ollie & Family Jewels. 😄
    But personally, I don't want to have to think about batteries that die and shut-off buttons that are forgotten. What happened to the KISS Principle? Keep It Simple Shifters. That said, I admit my opinion is biased because I've never used wireless shifters.

  • @manitoublack
    @manitoublack Год назад +4

    Genuinely had been waiting for this. But with no rim brake option, it's a hard NO from me. Was wanting you update my record Ti 10-speed groupset on my Time VXRS as parts are basically impossible to come by these days.
    Good news is the old 12-speed SR is still available and that's the route I'll have to go.

  • @douglasjohnson9472
    @douglasjohnson9472 Год назад +4

    Cool to see the Ltd edition Specialized Aethos on GCN

    • @ronanmcmahon1
      @ronanmcmahon1 Год назад

      I would have thought they'd have put it on some authentic Italian steed as well, but then also the hyperon ultra wheels,so must have been going for super lightweight, not to hide the weight of the groupset though surely 😅

  • @1anad9mit77
    @1anad9mit77 Год назад +1

    I wonder if you can program it, so the left shifter works the rear derailleur, and one of the hood buttons can work the front one? I can really only use my left hand to shift and brake.

  • @peterlux3593
    @peterlux3593 Год назад +1

    I've been riding Campy since the 80's. Still the best groupset in my view.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад

      Will you be getting yourself some modern Campy? 👀

    • @peterlux3593
      @peterlux3593 Год назад

      @@gcn Yes. On my new Colnago C68.

  • @andrewmcalister3462
    @andrewmcalister3462 Год назад +33

    Isn’t that marble frame heavy?

    • @lordsinclair1st
      @lordsinclair1st Год назад +4

      Nah, ivory from 10,000 elephants!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад +9

      We've got to slow ollie down on the climbs some how 👀

  • @velflat
    @velflat Год назад +32

    The era of Campagnolo is over.
    The new model has convinced us.

  • @teckendrums
    @teckendrums Год назад +6

    i think you should have mention the italien passion and flair for desing and heritage a litle more often, its campagnolo afterall.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад

      Hahaha we had to bite our tongues 😂

    • @teckendrums
      @teckendrums Год назад +1

      @@gcn i bet you did! some thigs you better not over do.i like your methodes of conditioning and monitoring your self.

  • @pglick123
    @pglick123 Год назад +3

    How did you not mesh those BB crank components!

  • @gzanoni
    @gzanoni Год назад +1

    very nice places 😎 ❤
    did Maranga host you? 😁

  • @patiorio1538
    @patiorio1538 Год назад +2

    I'm a huge campagnolo fan. I still have Campagnolo Record 11 speed .man its very beautiful. I can't believe I have seen this for 5400.00 wtf .No wonder people buy that Shimano crap.Sram Red Etap is nice.

  • @dougpence3862
    @dougpence3862 Год назад +5

    Wonder if a Record group will offer a 11 tooth start for us amateurs that fits on its old free hub spline?
    Also, for TT, will we get satellite buttons?

  • @richm.3477
    @richm.3477 Год назад +1

    I switched from Shimano to Campagnolo in 1994. I hate to say this, but unless someone is already a Campagnolo fan, the price point alone is going to make this a hard sell over Shimano or Sram. Campagnolo desperately needs to trickle down the electronic shifting to the Record and Chorus groupsets in order to keep pace with their rivals (no pun intended). Not everyone will want or need electronic shifting, of course, but making theirs even more stratospherically expensive is a step backwards for Campagnolo. There are only so many bike riding Italophile dentists in the world.

  • @grahamcollins6810
    @grahamcollins6810 Год назад +3

    Thanks for the informative video, but I can't help thinking having a frame made of solid marble (or so it looks) somewhat makes the lightweight groupset redundant?

  • @funkypumps1970
    @funkypumps1970 4 месяца назад

    Even if I can't afford the latest Campagnolo tech , I stick with the manufacturer just to be different than the crowd but appreciate they are all good in their own way.

  • @kvloover
    @kvloover Год назад +13

    it's nice compag is joining the wireless competition.
    Sadly they aren't really threatening sram or shimano.
    Aside from heritage, esthetics, brandname. They don't really offer anything new and don't outshine the competition on any aspect.

    • @dpustovalov
      @dpustovalov Год назад

      Can’t agree more with this statement. Could not see any single feature that would persuade me to even think about this group set. As a long fun of Campi, I stopped buying it a long time ago and SRAM etap is way more exciting and logical with their design. Still use the old Campi mechanical group set but its days are numbered. Unless Campi starts innovating it is hard to see their future.

    • @raminahmadi3000
      @raminahmadi3000 Год назад

      I agree with what you both say but punch in a nuts for both of you😂

    • @ofeykalakar1
      @ofeykalakar1 Год назад

      You mean Campagnolo joined the only other fully wireless group set SRAM. Shimano is only semi-wireless I.e., the front derailor- the rear still runs a wire

  • @jeremynorth
    @jeremynorth Год назад +1

    Brilliant review. Sorry about the pain to your nether regions. For many years I was a massive sceptic about Campagnolo until they got it right. SunTour then Shimano we're way ahead. Now it's nip and tuck and with SRAM in the game and no more SunTour it's mater of taste.

  • @krishnansrinivasan830
    @krishnansrinivasan830 Год назад +1

    Awesome & a fun review :)

  • @landonmarx4753
    @landonmarx4753 Год назад

    Glad to see you put it all on the line for this video..😂😂😂🎉🎉

  • @mrverbeck1
    @mrverbeck1 Год назад +1

    I chuckled every time.

  • @phil_d
    @phil_d Год назад +4

    No waxed chain patrol needed in this video!!

  • @rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778
    @rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778 Год назад

    Nice to see that they left the factory grease on the chain for you 😀 makes the groupset look appropriately filthy.

  • @BikeGuyFPV
    @BikeGuyFPV Год назад +1

    Obviously a long ways out until I look into a bike fitted with this groupset. But, I'll more than likely look at the older EPS Super Record first since that will most likely be cheaper to get my hands on first. Currently using Record 10s on a 2000 era Bianchi L-Lite and that has been my main ride for the past several years.

  • @stevek8829
    @stevek8829 Год назад

    The enthusiasm projected is contagious. I was starting to crave even before the close up of the chain rings' gorgeous machine work. I wasn't even thinking about price. But then, I heard one kilo heavier! Are you kidding,1000 grams more?

    • @arthurhood8030
      @arthurhood8030 Год назад

      Where did you hear that? Ollie mentioned that it would be slightly heavier than the old one. I’d be surprised if it were more that a few 10s of grams heavier. No way 1kg that’s just BS.

    • @stevek8829
      @stevek8829 Год назад

      @@arthurhood8030 try 11:25 Yes, it sounds wrong.

  • @johntheconnor8721
    @johntheconnor8721 Год назад

    nice to actually see some campy on the channel for a change

  • @kaltonian
    @kaltonian Год назад +1

    another great looking groupset from the masters, i do like this power off mode on the shifter...about time !
    damn site better than removing the battery for piece of mind, as you pointed out so as to not go flat whilst journeying to your ride/race,

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад

      It's a great feature! 🙌

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 Год назад

      The cables on my 8-speed Record groupset never go flat. :-)

  • @EthanOnTwoWheels
    @EthanOnTwoWheels Год назад +3

    Those gigantic, dinosaur size front and rear mech…. They sure do things differently.

  • @震宇林-h8j
    @震宇林-h8j Год назад

    Hi,
    Is there anyone know,
    does the wireless offer a rim-brake version?
    Thx.

  • @chrisfreter3629
    @chrisfreter3629 Год назад +1

    Oh my g 0 d! Poor Ollie, but hit him again! I was laughing so much during the video. The new Super Record look really nice, so as soon as I win lottery....

  • @edmondcollier9215
    @edmondcollier9215 Год назад +8

    For the people who have only ridden Campy, the removal of the thumb shifters will take some getting used to, if ever. The removal of the thumb shifters will be unnatural to these people. The traditional Campy people will not like the change. What was once a natural feeling in the hands will become strange and one will have to think about how to do the shifts, instead of instinctively shifting as if at one with the system. The thumb shifts were a distinct operation and location and a lot of traditional Campy people will mistakenly shift the wrong way given the proximity of the two levers behind the brake.

    • @hptator
      @hptator Год назад

      "The traditional Campy people will not like the change" ...that's the shimano people now

    • @leonardbertaux6897
      @leonardbertaux6897 Год назад

      That would be me.

  • @michaelkohn883
    @michaelkohn883 Год назад

    I have had wireless since 2016…. Has worked flawlessly since, just saying... That being said - I have had campy before - still do on one bike (although it is friction shifting campy) - great stuff.

  • @oneilwolfe407
    @oneilwolfe407 Год назад

    Absolutely love Campagnolo. Very nicely presented as always and Looks amazing. I think you should get an ice pack first then Pizza Ollie 😂😂

  • @jw3638
    @jw3638 Год назад +1

    First you try to kill Hank, now you're trying to end Ollie's family line😂

  • @archieman123
    @archieman123 Год назад +46

    Latest Groupset for Doctors, lawyers and dentists. To put on their heavy Disc Brake bike.

    • @MoMoCycling
      @MoMoCycling Год назад +4

      #durianrider

    • @Qlicky
      @Qlicky Год назад +3

      @Ryan Terence It's even easier to spot low income people like yourself.
      Big earners don't brag about groupsets on their bicycle in youtube comments.
      And that's assuming they're even telling the truth.

    • @georgesj9536
      @georgesj9536 Год назад +2

      @Ryan Terence I mean most doctors/lawyers make enough to slap on whatever groupset they want. Dont have to be the .1% to do that.. Avg Partner income is still north of 1mil so I'd say that makes you quite a big earner in society (together with top managers/ entrepreneurs)

    • @ImAnEmergency
      @ImAnEmergency Год назад +2

      Seethe about it

    • @harleypurcell7766
      @harleypurcell7766 Год назад +1

      Precisely, couldnt pay enough to get it quick enough to go on titanium disc ribble CGR 😉

  • @nickkambitis5340
    @nickkambitis5340 Год назад

    I have the 2019 Mechanical Super Record and love it, not sure I would upgrade to wireless as for me it wouldn’t be much of an upgrade.

  • @ravennexusmh
    @ravennexusmh Год назад +30

    Gangliest rear mech ever. It looks like they went for a shimano shadow rear hanger style then bolted a normal mech to it.

  • @hutchy_4297
    @hutchy_4297 Год назад

    is there a rim brake version?

  • @ricardojesus647
    @ricardojesus647 Год назад

    This punch in the crown jeewls is reminding me of a episode of top gear, where they were testing a Alfa Romeo, and for each time they used the words passion or heritage, they had to put a coin um the bag...😂😉

  • @Normally_aspirated
    @Normally_aspirated Год назад

    The punch in the nuts is a great twist on the old Top Gear gag

  • @timotheebossard4675
    @timotheebossard4675 Год назад +24

    I'm so sad for Campy .. I was quite hyped when I first heard about them going wireless through the patents that leaked a while ago, as they where kind of falling behind with their electronic options and I always loved their mechanical groupsets and inventiveness. Unfortunately this ends up to be just a vastly overpriced and poorly executed Sram groupset wrapped in somewhat questionable design choices IMO surfing on a name that no longer means new "out of the box" thinking. It's not even strikingly beautiful as before (that rear mech, ouch). No interchangeable batteries ? come on .. and that price point ? Seriously ? Who's going to want to buy this groupset except campy hardcore fans with very deep pockets, which I guess is not that wide a market. It might mean that even the Record groupset will retail at around the same price as a Red Axs, bonkers

    • @l.d.t.6327
      @l.d.t.6327 Год назад

      It's obviously better executed (as in: quality) than SRAM, but it isn't worth the (doubled?) price difference. I read that the different batteries were due to a SRAM patent, which is a retarded patent you can only blame SRAM for.

    • @timotheebossard4675
      @timotheebossard4675 Год назад

      @@l.d.t.6327 yes, you're indeed absolutely right about that patent, I heard something about it after writing that and it's definitely problematic. As for the better quality, I would have to see it for myself. I'm currently on my second SRAM red groupset, this one axs the first one red Etap, and there's absolutely nothing to blame on the build quality. It's been put through it's paces and still has no flaw. Well except for the sometimes blurry shifting, but apparently this new SR is not estranged with the problem either. But I build and maintain my bikes myself so maybe that makes it easier for me to adjust when needed.

    • @l.d.t.6327
      @l.d.t.6327 Год назад

      @@timotheebossard4675 The shifting on the new SR is, from hearsay (someone who tested it) excellent, and especially very quick (significantly quicker than SRAM, I haven't seen comparisons with DI2). The rumours about blurry shifting come from one person, and I wouldn't say it's in the construction. Maybe a badly tuned bike, but ofcourse everything Campagnolo delivers for testing is under bigger scrutiny and these issues shouldn't be there.
      What imho Campagnolo excells, is the braking and I like the crank more (spins like butter), and the longevity of chains + cassettes (good they made the cassette out of steel). But as said, these (relatively small) improvements do not justify doubling the price. You are always off cheaper and with more-or-less the same performance with SRAM, for a much better price.

  • @grinch4646
    @grinch4646 Год назад +6

    This has been the best unbias, straight to the point, reveiw of the groupset that's currently on RUclips. All the other reviews seem to be pro-Shimano or SRAM and don't stick to the facts. Good job!

    • @ntglf467
      @ntglf467 Год назад +8

      You call paid ads "facts", hmm...

    • @downbad9066
      @downbad9066 Год назад +6

      This is literally a paid ad mate

    • @GCNuser123
      @GCNuser123 Год назад +3

      to be clear, it’s not a review, i’m just aiming to tell you all about it in a clear way. Although it is paid, i am sticking to facts though👍🏼.

  • @galenkehler
    @galenkehler Год назад +1

    If you're under 50 and the tone of this video is confusing, let me explain: back in the last century, Campagnolo used to make good components.

  • @jameslee-pevenhull5087
    @jameslee-pevenhull5087 Год назад +1

    With power meters and rev counters in the cranks, a "1 by" 15 spd automatic should be available by now.

  • @zbigniewk583
    @zbigniewk583 Год назад

    Which cassette and chainset in new Campagnolo is perfect for road bike climbers? In the old group, let’s say, was 50/34 and 11-32. Whereas know? How I can compare this new group with old one. Thank you

  • @paulbud6216
    @paulbud6216 Год назад +4

    Nice but shame those cables out 😁

  • @HeavyDragoon
    @HeavyDragoon Год назад

    So why are they NOT in the pro peloton?

  • @wrench_n_ride8159
    @wrench_n_ride8159 Год назад +1

    I would pay about anything to be the one to do the nut punching. 😂😂😂

  • @yurimow
    @yurimow Год назад

    a) 2:50 - thumb lever fans can shift to LTwoo, who interestingly enough have launched an electronic groupset just recently
    b) 3:00 so what they are saying is that microshift has superior ergonomics compared to previous campag?

  • @fabianmolyneux2308
    @fabianmolyneux2308 Год назад +1

    The max cassette of 11-29 puts me off. I had Campag 11-29 with a compact crank and over long climbs of greater than 5 or 6% average it was just a grind. I really needed an 11-32 at least.
    Aside from this gripe it's a brilliant groupset.

    • @Viamscience
      @Viamscience 2 месяца назад

      Hence the smaller chainrings.

  • @yeyeTF2
    @yeyeTF2 Год назад

    that beehive though
    what are the pros going to use? 50 the biggest option?

  • @ericpmoss
    @ericpmoss Год назад +2

    OMG another GCN video pronouncing Campagnolo decently. :)

  • @paolopetrozzi2213
    @paolopetrozzi2213 Месяц назад

    Beautiful location

  • @glennoc8585
    @glennoc8585 Год назад

    I own campy on a backup bike and it's always a nice shift. I like this new group but it's very very expensive for only the elite pro end
    😅

  • @aaronedgeart
    @aaronedgeart Год назад

    Crying in laughter over Ollie's jewel-punching, crying in sadness over the loss in classic Italian thumb shifting... where is the world going?!?!?!?!?!?!

  • @michaelhelduser6762
    @michaelhelduser6762 Год назад

    Can you pair super record with a garmin device or Karoo or wahoo device like you can with sram axs? What is the cost comparison between RED and Super Record?

  • @jimmygalvez6145
    @jimmygalvez6145 Год назад

    Is that the brakes rubbing around the 2:30 mark?

  • @TryboBike
    @TryboBike Год назад

    Groupset of the People!
    Not too many, but still.

  • @orlandogodoy3233
    @orlandogodoy3233 Год назад +1

    The devolution of cycling continues

  • @tonymoretti1756
    @tonymoretti1756 Год назад

    i dream campagnolo
    evry day and night

  • @henriks5008
    @henriks5008 Год назад +3

    Hope they introduce wireless shifting to the lower tier groupsets also, like the the Record and Chorus. They had 11s Chorus and Record eps back in 2014 I think. 🤞🤞

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Год назад

      They really have to with SRAM having wireless Rival.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад +2

      Keep your eyes peeled 👀

    • @henriks5008
      @henriks5008 Год назад +1

      @@veganpottertheveganI agree but Campa is campa, they rally dont have to do anything it seems to. Since they always go their own ways. I only ride campa though ;)

    • @alespg1359
      @alespg1359 Год назад +2

      They had also Athena eps!

  • @asams7255
    @asams7255 Год назад +2

    Not that I could afford either but I’d take the previous gen any day over this, it looks better, has a thumb shifter and is lighter, by the sounds of it the only ‘improvement’ is fully wireless which is only an issue when setting up

  • @chrisridesbicycles
    @chrisridesbicycles Год назад +2

    Sepp Kuss will have to do quite a few more stretches to reach that battery while descending at 80 kph.

    • @ofeykalakar1
      @ofeykalakar1 Год назад

      It was a button on the rear derailleur that overused the shifting- don’t think he was trying to unclip the battery

  • @blankseventydrei
    @blankseventydrei Год назад

    which arm do I have to give?

  • @charlesblithfield6182
    @charlesblithfield6182 Год назад +34

    It’s a “meh” groupset hindered by patent restrictions and cobbled together reluctantly because they are so late to the party. I’m hoping it’s just a placeholder preceeding something really revolutionary and innovative.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Год назад

      What do you think Campy should release next? What would be there revolutionary move? 👀

    • @a1white
      @a1white Год назад +4

      @@gcn How about some clever innovative tech that doesn't rely on batteries having to be recharged every 700km? You could shave off soo much weight that way. Imagine how much lighter and sleaker it would look without the batteries and electonics.

    • @tflspitfire
      @tflspitfire Год назад +4

      ​@@a1white You mean some sort of tried and tested system of steel cables and levers?

    • @manueldias1301
      @manueldias1301 Год назад

      @@a1white Like studying the effects of using kinetic energy vs, weight of the batteries. Which one would be more efficient

    • @the_luki
      @the_luki Год назад

      Wireless brakes😂

  • @sylpascale7673
    @sylpascale7673 7 месяцев назад

    What Frame is that? thanks..

  • @warrenchu6319
    @warrenchu6319 Месяц назад

    I love my Colnago CLD with Super Record EPS 12 with rim brakes. I prefer the wired version with the thumb down shifters.

  • @robinseibel7540
    @robinseibel7540 Год назад +1

    "Downshift" is a shift to a lower gear ratio. The traditional Campy thumb levers perform upshifts, i.e. shift to higher gear ratios.

    • @ianjackson9853
      @ianjackson9853 Год назад

      What about the front one? I think Down means "to a smaller cog"

    • @robinseibel7540
      @robinseibel7540 Год назад

      @@ianjackson9853, some in cycling misuse the "downshift" and "upshift" terminology. In every other area where gear shifting is done, downshifting is shifting to a lower gear ratio, while upshifting is to a higher gear ratio. To your question, shifting "down" to the smaller chain ring is an actual "downshift" since that is a change to a smaller gear ratio. In the back though, when you shift to a smaller cog, you're actually "upshifting" to a higher gear ratio.

  • @SteveSingerFowkes
    @SteveSingerFowkes Год назад +14

    Not for 4 1/2k
    I'll wait for the Ltwoo electronic coming out at a 9th of the price

    • @biggertree7063
      @biggertree7063 Год назад +1

      With thumb shifters.

    • @Mike0
      @Mike0 Год назад

      I want a 1x wireless 11 speed ltwoo, or like shimano 12 speed but fits 11 hubs for my tt bike

    • @geneavallone3524
      @geneavallone3524 4 месяца назад +1

      My LTwoo electronic groupset lasted about 2500 shifts before it dropped dead. If you don't ride much it could be a good option. Sent it back to them under warranty, never got the parts or a refund.

  • @dgasmd1
    @dgasmd1 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome, despite being about 10 years too late. I would love to adopt it if and only "IF": 1. could the brakes be paired to non-disc also 2. can the shifters be paired to 11 and even 10 sp 3. can it be seamlessly be paired with 11 sp cranks 4. can it all be programed from 10-12 speed with a single app 5. can the same wheel hubs reused from 10-12 sp. Too forever to get to 10 sp, but once we did, it went crazy fast to 13 sp and disc brakes. Just too many parts to change for a single variable change.

  • @davidsteed3626
    @davidsteed3626 Год назад

    How do you manage to put a crank face down on a concrete road without getting a single scratch on them. I lean my bike gently on a wall and it’s scratches all over. GCN MAGIC!!

  • @davidmurphy9151
    @davidmurphy9151 Год назад

    If they make one with cables I will check it out.

  • @dalis994
    @dalis994 Год назад

    I used to have Chorus for several seasons. Now I'm back to Shimano. I never liked the Campagnolo thumb shifting - I found it a bit awkward when shifting out of the saddle.

  • @hitbox1260
    @hitbox1260 Год назад +2

    Campy is done for me

  • @andreemurray7039
    @andreemurray7039 Год назад +2

    Sorry I'll stick to cable gearing due to the cost of the group set's and no worrying about the battery going flat

  • @isaacallen5525
    @isaacallen5525 Год назад +1

    The year is 2055, Peter Sagan Jr. yells at the team car for remotely locking him in the small ring to keep him from attacking early

  • @Frostbiker
    @Frostbiker Год назад +3

    Perhaps I'm weird, but I would only consider electronic shifting on a bike that had a centralized battery that could optionally be charged with a dynamo hub. The battery could be located e.g. inside the down tube.

    • @leskennedy
      @leskennedy Год назад +1

      That's Shimano then but if that's flat everything is flat. At least with SRAM you could put the front mech battery into the derailleur if that has run out.

    • @Frostbiker
      @Frostbiker Год назад

      @@leskennedy Oh, thank you! I thought all these systems used separate batteries. Now I see online that some folks have plugged their dynamos to their Di2 batteries through an AC/DC USB converter.

    • @leskennedy
      @leskennedy Год назад

      @@Frostbiker That would be an handy if you're doing huge tours and sleeping in bus shelters I guess. Most of us have electric at home !

    • @Frostbiker
      @Frostbiker Год назад

      @@leskennedy I hate recharging batteries :) That's why I have a dynamo hub.

    • @stanislavkindiakov6334
      @stanislavkindiakov6334 Год назад +1

      @@Frostbiker then go mechanic shifting. Why to take expensive and heavier electronic and add dynamo on top?