What Wine Experts Mean
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2020
- For regular people, opening a bottle of wine may feel like a gamble. From flavours to mouthfeel, wine experts tend to write about wine in abstract and unhelpful ways. This video translates the language of wine snobs and arms normal people with the knowledge needed to find a decent bottle of wine.
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Produced by Melissa Fernandes
Story Editing by Sabrina Cruz
Video Editing by Sam Anghelides
Motion Design by Sabrina Cruz
Special Thanks to Giselle Steventon, Isabella Verrilli, and Jack Conte
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Wine. All the Time. by Marissa A. Ross
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Welcome to the joke under the fold! I'm not so sure about this one because...
Wine puns are always in pour taste.
Comment POUR to let me know you were here ;-)
When I was a kid a family friend encouraged me to use winey words (grassy notes, coffee aftertaste, well balanced bouquet) when drinking chocolate milk at parties. I never knew why all the adults cracked up at the time, but in hindsight that friend was fucking hilarious.
Edit: discourse went (and continues to go down) in the comments. I don’t want to invalidate your experiences, but for me, this was fun. Laughter was positive reinforcement, it meant I did something others enjoyed. No one was born with a perfect understanding of humor. We all learn through experience, and it’s inevitable that a kid won’t always understand what’s going on. Keep that in mind before responding. Your experiences may differ, but please don’t use your interpretation of mine as an argument.
That's beautiful
Please tell me that you recorded yourself
Oh yes I feel some earthy notes and deep flavours in this cow titty juice combined with a bean. Really low tenants and acid. Full flavour.
Putting "tenants" instead of "tannins" really adds to your comment lol
They were trying to create a great aristocrat
Next time I go to the store I'm definitely asking for their cleanest rock tasting wine so that they know that I'm no amateur 🍷
I imagine it being a very dry white wine more on the acidic side with a metallic side to it.
@@miss1of2 it's called an electrolyte
@@miss1of2 by metallic side I assume you mean struck steel?
@@nickpatella1525 I don't know.... The only other way I could describe it is a pointe taste.
@@GewelReal LMAO
Are we ignoring the fact that you were at a my immortal reading party just like that???
We need more information. Was this when the supposed author revealed herself? Was it after it was confirmed that she was not in fact the author? Was there someone dressed as an emo vampire? WE NEED THE DEETS
That's the video I wanna watch really
What made me the most happy in this vid isn't learning about wine its that she sited her sources
True that!!!
I'm sorry but
*cited
@@KaliTakumi What if you sources are sites?
kappa
@em ma Citation Needed.
@@davidharshman7645 you mean sitation needed
"Aw man, I hate to do this to you, but it smells like wine."
-Sabrina during the quarantine catasrophe of 2020.
Best line
I just got my masters in Enology/Viticulture (winemaking essentially). This was a really well put together video. Puts things in simple terms. My biggest pet peeve in the wine industry is the flowery language in tasting notes. Just say it tastes like apricot, pineapple, and baking spice. The whole point of the tasting notes is to make it clear to the consumer what they're about to buy and the extraneous language just makes it more difficult.
Literally the opposite of Law Students
It's my firm belief that critics and reviewers aim to serve their audience more with clever writing than with useful information. Clever writing might get them more work, whereas clear, straight forward writing might or might not.
Just my thought. Of the two places where I get wine, one is next to a chip shop beside a petrol station, and the other is between a hairdressers and a Chinese takeaway. These are not environments populated by epicurean connoisseurs.
Well, if my experience working in a wine shop taught me anything, it's that most customers don't understand tasting notes no matter how hard you try to simplify them.
Especially if James suckling is reviewing it because you know it's going to be like 95 points for some mediocre wine that has barely any taste
As a French woman, I can confirm we say "ooh la la" every time we drink wine.
Great vid, POUR taste has left the chat, thanks to you both :)
Double pun with the pour, 11/10
I'm 26 and I say ooh la la for chocolate milk. Sniff.
@@melon4249 I was just about to comment on that. It seems French people are good at making puns lmao.
It's the law, isn't it? You have to do it.
Not an EXPERT, but when i worked at "The OG" we learned, when a wine says, 'chocolatey' it means bitter like dark cocoa, not the typical sugary milky chocolate you might be used to, if you go and get like 90% chocolate, you might have a better chance matching the flavors. It's when the bitter flavor is warm and fuzzy i guess XD
Right. It's a volatile bitterness you can feel on your palate (and sometimes gums), not only on your tongue.
thought so too!
The OG got me started on wine and pairings.
Funny thing, I can't stand most of the wind they carry now except Coppola
Yea I tend to interpret flavor references like that as an example of the balance of sweetness, bitterness, etc in the wine or coffee or whatever else. Like oranges are going to be a reference for something with probably high sweetness, medium to low acidity, and like a bright not very heavy sort of feel. Apply that to coffee, wine, or whatever else. I said that twice.
I too thought it strange to describe a liquid as “dry” until I had a particularly dark red wine and my mouth was definitely much drier after drinking the wine than it was before. I don’t know how a liquid can sap the moisture from your mouth, but I promise you it can
dry wine makes your tongue shrivel up like a slug on salt
Tanins in wine are called that because they “tan” things. Tan is an old Celtic word for “oak” and the tanins found in the bark of oak trees when diluted in water could ‘tan’ the skin of an animal and make leather.
This explains both why some wines taste “oaky” (though that’s usually referring to the flavour they get from the barrels they’re stored in) and also why they can make your mouth feel dry - they’re tanning your mouth and making it very slightly leathery.
Milk chemicals are very good at binding to tanins and preventing them from doing that to your mouth, which is why wine and cheese go together so well.
when i studied abroad in france, my professor (whose mom is french and dad is italian) told us the first rule about wine is that if you like it, it's good wine. it does not have to be expensive. we later went to the super market for one of our french lessons, and she showed us all these wines that were amazing for around 5 euros.
after some experience drinking wine, i know that i like red wines that are medium bodied. usually means it won't be too fruity or too acidic or too sweet, and not too overwhelming -- perfect for pairing with any meal (that's not seafood).
Why not seafood?
@@isame0085 You CAN drink red wines with seafood, but you have to take into consideration that the tanins of the wine will come out stronger (more astringent) when paired with this type of dishes (due to a reaction with the seafood proteins). A red wine might also easily overpower a delicate seafood dish. So prefer a light red to be on the safer side or an old wine whose tanins have been tone down by time. If your dish can stand a more bodied wine (monkfish with chorizo sauce for example) Go for it ! An old Pinot Noir from Burgundy may pair well with this dish for example.
We share same taste in wine it seems. ^^
@@isame0085 Rule of thumb: If you would make a sauce out of red wine for your dish, drink red wine to it. If you would make a sauce out of white wine for it, then choose the white one to accompany it. It doesn't matter if your dish is actually served with a sauce based on wine, just imagine what would be a better fit for it.
Would you mind sharing the name of the amazing and cheap wines?
Great video for novice wine drinkers! As someone who works in wine, the best way to ensure you're purchasing something you'll like is to talk to someone at the wine retail shop. Tell us things like what the last bottle you enjoyed was like or perhaps a picture of a label from a wine you really like. From there, we can navigate the inventory together and find you something similar or perhaps go in a different directions if you're looking to branch out a bit :) Wine is fun!
So apparently I really enjoy learning about alcohol, even though I don't drink. Stellar video 11.6/10
Same it seems
I'm allergic to the stuff and this video is making me kinda mad about it lmao
"Don't be boujee just drink the wine with your friends and have a good time." Words to live by!
She didn't lie.
As a fellow young adult foodie I so appreciated Melissa's contributions to the video. I often carry spices with me on campus and have been known add them to an otherwise bland college campus meal. When I have friends over for dinner I tend to talk them through the meal and the flavors I tried to create for us to enjoy. Friends have even asked me to give them foodie and wine related advise in the past. It is so wonderful to see a kindred spirit.
Melissa, your research was amazing and helped me further understand wines. Thank you for working so hard on sleuthing out wine details and sharing your knowledge with the internet. Have a lovely day!
P.S. The animations were also amazing. A++++++ job Sabrina!
Quotoligest #1 wow, I don’t know how to explain it, but reading that just gives me a sort of feeling, you know, like especially the ‘create for us to enjoy part’. This isn’t an insult, I just don’t know how to describe it.
When our generation gets older, there won't be "wine people" anymore, it'll just be the "wine fandom"
sounds awesome tbh
WHERE IS THE DAMN CHOCOLATE?!?
=)
Melissa seems really interesting, and she's got a great on-camera presence and narrating voice. Does she have a channel of her own?
...back off, creep
@@kleinfaf What? How is this creepy?
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@@kleinfaf so compliments are creepy? I might understand if they said something about her body or appearance, but they didn't they said she has a great narrating voice, and great on-camera presence. 90% of the time neither of those have anything to do with attractiveness.
@@garrondumont7891 So “seems interesting" is a wording which doesn't say he thinks she's attractive? Really?
I'm so glad that they usually put the levels of sugar, acidity and tannins on the wine-shelves in our country
Where I'm from there is usually some expensive French words on the bottle, the shelf will only tell you it's red wine or white wine. I can't whine too much tho, if you've learned as a kid that it tastes bad. You might just drink less as an adult
@Lucas Zhu I didn't really feel the need to specify what country I come from, but if you want to know I live in Scandinavia, and both in Norway and Sweden we have those labels for wines, and sometimes even for beer.
@Lucas Zhu I'm a Hollander from the Netherlands, so that means I'm Dutch.
@@EasterWitch Yea, same in Poland. It's much easier to pick a wine that suits your tastes. Now in America I am completely lost whenever I try to buy wine. x.x
@@AmberyTear Where in Poland? Best I saw was red/white/pink and sweet/dry, and it's rather colour code on price tag, not the whole shelf or section to specific kind, like semi-dry red.
This really feels like a Brian David Gilbert Unraveled video for wine and I'm loving it
this is literally this whole channel i love it
honestly, most puns are in pour taste sabrina, but that's what makes them great!!
ok
Yeah people wine and complain about puns too much.
@@PlanetComputer amazing pun
That’s what makes them grape 🍇
Well, I think that they’re pretty sweet.
Does that even count as a pun? I’m sorry, I can’t even do puns right.
I wanna be Melissa. Her kitchen is cute, she’s cute and she shared such knowledge with us! Aha
I haven’t seen people describe kitchens as cute yet, seems like a normal kitchen t me
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staying for the credits have never been so worth it
I love that Melissa is just as much into exhaustive research and hubristic information compilation as Sabrina is. Friend goals.
I like how you have the CEO of Patreon in the "Special Thanks" section
Ok now I feel the need to know why he's there
@@LorenzoLeonardini maybe cause he is a patreon??
Lorenzo Leonardini probably because she won a $50K grant ran from Patreon just this year. you can see she posts videos more often now.
i'm writing a comment so that this video/channel gets shown more on the algorithm
I feel like I'm watching Sabrina's explainer Netflix show titled "Call a Friend"
I think what confuses or unsettles most people is the actual ability to put words to flavor. These words aren't completely literal (though often they are the same chemical compound) but what it reminds you of. If you suspend your disbelief and/or spend enough time around wine reiews these things just make sense. These words don't make sense unless you've somehow mapped them onto some expectations.
Omg, the begining of this video reminded me of this tumblr post in which someone's parents went to a wine tasting party and the mother put the glass near her ear and everyone began to imitate her without reason, without questions or anything
I think that there's a very interesting question about this whole subject...
"Why wine?"
I mean, yes it can have a lot of specificity and a lot of flavours and it can vary a lot... but that goes for literally every food that isn't mass produced. Different restaurants make the same food differently, it tastes differently, with different aspects, with different ingredients, etc. Different lemonades made from actual lemons taste immensely different depending on what you put into them. Hell, even water can taste incredibly different depending on what's in it.
But none of these has a 'language' so dedicated and validated by authorities (media platforms in this case) to describing it and and obcessing over it. What is it that made wine be the thing that has that language? - "Why wine?"
Also, another question that goes hand in hand with this one: Wine language seems to be a eurocentric phenomenon... is there an equivalent obcession somewhere in Africa? Or an equivalent obcession somewhere in Asia? My mind immediately jumps to the Chinese and their tradition with tea, but I don't know enough to know if it developed and validated a language as unique as wine-tasting language.
P.S.
I noticed parallels to game-criticism language, which is pretty unique of its own. Literature criticism comes to mind as well. Art criticism in general. Seems like this kind of language is developed for anything that is socially valued in some way. But the question comes back, though: Why wine?
It’s probably a prestige thing. Wine is seemingly the highest class alcohol, so it ended up getting the most jargon in its field.
When we went out for dinner in Singapore and had mango for dessert I was surprised how the natives discussed the idiosynchrasies of the fruit. It very much reminded me of European wine language.
It's even worse. In Portuguese, we don't have the same way of talking about wine that you have in English. You'd describe a wine by region, grape varieties and producer, followed by the meals it was designed to be paired (in this video Vinho Verde is a special case because it's a party wine to drink standing.) But pretty much every wine tradition has a different approach to describe the experience.
It's also an ancient product, enjoyed by every social class from the middle east and southern Europe. From ancient Greece to the current day. Differentiation is something to be expected.
@@dinonid1234 I agree but then the question is, how did it become so prestigious compared to other alcohols
@@videoguy640 I think because of its long and ancient history. People from thousands of years ago have created traditions around wine, which increases its perceived cultural value. It also might have something to do with modern commodification by the upper classes as a status symbol. Also, historically I guess, wine could've been and indicator for class and social status. Royalty drank imported vintage wines and plebs drank mead.
Here's how I pick wine:
Is the bottle pretty? Pick that one.
Those animations though **chef's kiss**
Didn't expect such a positive message at the end, I can totally appreciate it though
ok
It’s been up for 2 damn minutes sir
Planet either your a bot or a person with too much time either way stop spamming
"Notes of grape and alcohol. Wet, and with a dark reddish purple flavor."
10 minutes, many facts, and animations later: "so, it's like a worse wine review?" Hahahaha this was informative and funny, love your friend
My mom is a expert in wine, she drinks 5 bottles a day.
ok
It's called a flight, and it's classy
Oof
oof
oh no
Melissa's sound is so relaxing
"Yo I like your sound"
Aww, I only just started watching your videos (like yesterday, still have many more to binge) and only got here to the premiere for you to say "have a lovely day" and then bloopers.
I don't drink, but as Sabrina said: I can understand obsession.
Some of this reminds me of conversations I had growing up (like the time my Dad had me sip a sweeter red & a dry cab & had be describe the feeling - to this day that’s the reference I go to when imagining dry wines) but I love the visuals, am a sucker for some good animation, and love the approach you took to demystifying wines!!
15:17 "And then I just selected the filters for all of the northern part." But Bordeau is like, waaaay south. How tf did it showed up under "northern regions" ?!
I worked at a winery for 3ish years and there are only 2 universally accepted opinions on wine: red should never be sweet and white should be served cold. I really loved this video! If you ever go wine tasting and want to look bouj, the “proper” way to taste wine, is to first smell it, then swirl, then smell again, and this time really get your nose in there and inhale, then taste! When you taste you want to take smallish sips and let the wine touch all the parts of your mouth. The real intense people will “aerate” the wine in their mouth by sucking air in after you take a sip, but it looks and sounds silly so some people don’t. Also I fully endorse the “have fun and just drink it” method!
THIS WAS SO HELPFUL!!! Also, what I've learned from my mom: swirling/aerating the wine slightly changes the flavor and scent as the wine oxidizes (comes into contact w oxygen in the air), so try sipping and smelling before and after swirling. Usually I can't tell the difference, but sometimes if I don't like a wine - too sharp n acidic or something - letting it sit in the glass for a bit mellows it out.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO SO MUCH. I've been following you since you were like a freshman in high school, and the video quality is OUT OF THIS WORLD RIGHT NOW. You deserve millions of followers. Hope your work pays off in many more ways, Sabrina, we love you!
Great vid, really interesting :)
As a French, the "oh là là" part kill me ^^
"I'm glad the only thing I had to do was drink some wine" gurl?? I ?? Know Melissa did a heckton of research but you?? animated those beautiful graphics
As a french person, I am simultaneously offended and honored by this video hahah in a lot of french families we learn about wines and wine types at restaurants and/or parties
i love how sabrina's strategy is just to give mellisa the jobs, when it comes to things you consume
I found your channel so recently, and I honestly love love LOVE this. It's so awesome that you thoroughly study whatever you're interested in, cite your sources, and have such incredible production quality. I'm not sure if y'all did this on your own or have a team, but either way, this is just amazing content, and it really inspires me to learn more about random topics I'm interested in! Thank you so much!
I love this video!! It makes me want to try and appreciate wine more. Could we get a video like that about coffee? I feel sometimes that like wine, coffee is treated very seriously with facy names and descriptions that are hard to understand. I also learned that there's objectively good and bad coffee but I still don't understand most of it.
My girlfriend’s training to be a sommelier right now! Sending this to her stat, great vid!
This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorite on RUclips. I love learning, but even more than that I love your energy and ginormous skillset.
I love the two of you making videos together! So proud of you both.
Soooooo,when's the olive oil merch coming out?
When she said "I'm an adult now..." dead😂😂
this channel is so cool, i love the back and forth between Sabrina and her friend and the animations are awesome. lots of talent here
literally all your videos are amazing and entertaining, the animations are so fun!
sabrina: a *CLEAN* rock
also sabrina: *smiles at her own expression*
"Bourgie" is my favorite word.
Bourgeoisie is my least favorite class
Your voice is so comfortable to hear, it's very easy to automatically get into your videos
Loved loved loved this video! Thank you Sabrina. I've been passionate about wine as a hobby for about a decade now and it was so lovely to watch you learn about a subject that I love.
"nO wAy OnE pErSoN cAn MaKe A ViDeO oF tHiS sTaNdArD", ya its called being good at what you do...
I love how Sabrina wanted to do a video on wine, so she got her friend to do 10 weeks of research 🤣 👏
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE, THAT I DISCOVERED YOUR CHANNEL AFTER SO MANY YEARS. I've spent the whole night binging your vids! Awesome!
Pronunciation tip: everytime you see the "NH" letters in a portuguese word, think of it more like the spanish /Ñ/ sound. Not quite, but "viño" is way closer than "vin-ho".
Also, LOVED it. Thanks for the magnificent content and never lose this incredible curiosity!
Regards from Brazil. And try a caipirinha someday :D
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But I know no one cares
Then why did you do it? God this thing has existed since the beginning of RUclips and no one actually cares but people still do it.
Fifth
As a fellow Canadian uni student (but raised on wine) and foodie, I must say I love this video so much. I've often helped friends pick wines to bring to date dinners or fancy events based on the menu, and this video very succinctly covers all the basics in picking and appreciating wine for what it is, an art. Kudos to both of you on this outstanding video with the sources and everything!
As we say over a drink in French, and especially in the current circumstances, santé!
i discovered this channel just few days ago, and i felt in love with the energy of every video so far, it's so fresh and put a sincere smile to your face :)
These videos are crazy well produced. Keep up the great effort!!
When you get overwhelmed it’s a good sign to ask for help, that’s really good advice thank you
I feel like you hit the nail on the head with that conclusion! I've always been afraid of getting into conversations with my friends who aren't obsessed with the variations in flavor profiles between different wines because I don't want to come off as snobbish. I'm not trying to be snobbish, I've just found something in passionate about and I love to talk about it. I'm by no means anywhere near the level of a true wine connoisseur, but I have built a love and appreciation for the many facets of wine and I know what I like and what I don't like. This was really well done
I always come away from your videos learning so much with a huge smile on my face.
I love how high quality you content is! Keep up the good work!
Great video Sabrina (and Melissa!) this channel rebirth is such a treat.
I love the distinction between passion / obsession vs. pretentiousness... thanks!
the intro spoke directly out of my heart
Just found your channel today and have been binging your videos all day long.
You're content is really amazing, from the topics to the editing. The topics are interesting and the editing is extremely good and helps make the video even more enjoyable. Keep up the great work.
Found your channel 24 hours ago and let's just say I already stan, I've watched every single video you've ever made
I remember finding out about Sabrina from a video that they showed me in class. Now I watch her videos on a daily basis. Thanks.
Sabrina, your videos are so slick. I don't understand why you don't have more subs.
That last bit about enjoying the love people have for things was so nice and touching.
I'm a 25 year old, adult, lady person and I literal pick wine based on what kinds I've enjoyed in the past, and then how pretty the label and bottle/box is. I have no shame.
Your videos always amaze me with the level of production and quality, honestly inspiring
I loved this, it's so relatable, y'all worked so hard, and I appreciate it
Melissa's voice is so soothing, this is a perfect duo
This video sent me down a rabbit hole of grape varieties and food pairings. I haven't been into wine for a couple years (strangely when this video came out) and this brought me back into it
My father makes wines for a living and this video explained this better to me than he ever could. Very impressed! And considering that you had a great time in the making of this, it really is a win win!!!
absolutely love this live chat
I just found your channel few hours ago and I cannot believe the quality of your videos... it is ridicilous! You deserve way way more subs. God damn...
This is the purest thing and I love it! Thanks for brightening my day ❤️
I've been bingeing this channel this is all so fun
After the video I got a wine ad, we love that consistency.
Hey Sabrina, I’ve watched your videos since that time you collabed with vlogbrothers years ago!
This video is so interesting to me! I’m a server/bartender at a mid/high-end restaurant in which 2/3 of my managers are wine sommeliers and they taught me a lot. But as a young adult in the server/nightlife industry, I know how pretentious or even simple we can describe wine. This video did a really good job doing a baseline introduction to the “culture” of wine!
Just found your channel, and I am so fricken hooked. You do a fantastic job. The videos have this natural hook that makes me want to keep watching. Thanks for your being
Thank you for including Bulgaria in the wine regions of the world. It’s so often forgotten.
such an underrated channel! and melissa is ohh la la
In Finland we have the term 'squat wine' for all the cheapest brands because they are always placed on the bottom shelf and you have to squat or bow down to pick them up.
This was fantastic. I'm from Argentina and wine culture here is no joke, but most people just go with whatever they like best without much thought. That said, Malbec and Demi Sec Champagne are my faves
As a wine snob, the best way to learn what wine you like is to pay attention when you drink a wine you like, and then keep ordering that variety! So if you already know you like white, pay attention to whether it's a Sav Blanc, a Riesling, a Chardonnay or a Pinot Grigio, and maybe why you like it. And if you find one you *really* like, remember the brand as well so you can order it again if you see it!
Wine tasting tours is another really great way to do that, if you happen to live near a wine region. You get to taste a bunch of different wines over the day, and you'll work out ones you like or don't like (and also get nice and tipsy!).
But yeah, paying attention to what you like and why is really useful.
Really enjoyed this video -- great job of breaking it all down quickly and succinctly! Hope Sabrina finds a wine she loves someday!
Melissa is back! I love Melissa!!