Rolleiflex 2.8e versus Mamiya C330

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  • @kieferngruen
    @kieferngruen 6 лет назад +65

    Hello Eduardo. Thank you very much for this great comparison. You can actually do double exposure with the Rolleiflex. There is a ring around the crank which you have to pull into the direction of the arrow while cranking the shutter.

    • @edpavez
      @edpavez  6 лет назад +10

      THANK YOU for this! I had no idea.

    • @C.Abbenfield
      @C.Abbenfield 6 лет назад +10

      EduardoPavezGoye Heeello Eduardo. Also thank you, very much enjoying your videos!
      To add to Matthias' comment: there is also a way to tell the parallax with the rolleiflex! In the viewfinder there is a black "ribbon" or belt which moves in and out of frame at the top and bottom as you adjust the focus allowing you to tell what is actually in frame and what isnt due to parallax difference. :)

    • @Sn4k3f1st
      @Sn4k3f1st 4 года назад +2

      @@C.Abbenfield I came to the comments to say this. Apart from lens swaps (you can always buy a Rolleiflex tele and a Wide, wink wink) the Germans really implemented every possible feature in these cameras. its just that the solution was often so elegant and subtle (a needle in frame to show parallax? pfft) that you fail to notice them like in your case :) happy shooting

    • @user-uo2fx5mx9e
      @user-uo2fx5mx9e 4 года назад

      I have Rolleiflex contact i wanna sell

    • @leslumieres1237
      @leslumieres1237 3 года назад

      @@C.Abbenfield Good point, but everyone using a Rollei MUST know this. Why comparing cameras of which one doesn't know such essentials as parallax compensation?!

  • @zionJeon
    @zionJeon 6 лет назад +136

    Eduardo, the way you say Mamiya is magical

    • @lolrofl5
      @lolrofl5 5 лет назад +8

      mama-mamiya

    • @diegofredes8357
      @diegofredes8357 5 лет назад +2

      Chileno?

    • @justinw1563
      @justinw1563 4 года назад

      I was just going to say the same thing! I could listen to him say it all-day haha

    • @lqr824
      @lqr824 4 года назад +1

      The real pronunciation is "Mommy, ya got a ticket?" No syllable is louder or stressed, but if you can't avoid it, stress on the first syllable sounds a lot closer than pretending it's Italian. --30 year Japanese speaker

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 3 года назад

      Yes it's magical.

  • @TXLorenzo
    @TXLorenzo 4 года назад +12

    The Mamiya has better contrast and definitely better depth of field than the Rollei. In addition, you can change lenses with the Mamiya as well. Except for the weight, the Mamiya has a much better price/performance ratio.

  • @rafepurnell
    @rafepurnell 6 лет назад +17

    Thanks Eduardo. My 330 has become my favourite camera. It’s great to see the comparison and the detail you went into. Really appreciate your work. Thanks again

  • @industryrule-4080
    @industryrule-4080 6 лет назад +8

    I've owned my C330S for over a decade but have always wanted a Rolleiflex. Thanks for doing the comparison.

  • @omnesilere
    @omnesilere 6 лет назад +9

    I love my Mamiyas, and you have assuaged my desire to own a Rollei, thank you so much. It's like a weight has been lifted.

  • @greysuit17
    @greysuit17 6 лет назад +3

    I love my C330 S, it’s such a great camera! Love your videos man!

  • @markolwick2223
    @markolwick2223 6 лет назад +4

    Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I have a C330, and while the size of the Rollei is appealing, it’s not enough to justify the price difference to me.

  • @blackdogbite
    @blackdogbite 7 месяцев назад

    EXCELLENT. Great comparison, illustration of details and discussion... and great to see comparison images. Thank you.

  • @ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s
    @ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s 6 лет назад +4

    Great comparison. I love my mamiya and use it with the 55mm, such a good combo.

  • @kinglear5952
    @kinglear5952 5 лет назад +2

    Your vids are very interesting and informative. Thank you for doing them

  • @RodrigoKristensen
    @RodrigoKristensen 6 лет назад +2

    I love my Mamiya C330. Congrats for your videos, they are awesome!

  • @bryanswisshelm941
    @bryanswisshelm941 Год назад

    So happy I stumbled upon your channel. This video helped make up my mind!

  • @epstar83
    @epstar83 6 лет назад +6

    Good comparison! Been shooting the C330 for nearly 2 years now and love it! I have often considered the Rollei but was put off by the price. Recently I found a Yashica D with the newer Yashinon lens and it’s marvellous! Similar size to the Rollei but lighter. The lens only opens to 3.5 but I don’t find that to be an issue with MF cameras. Also the VF on the Yashica seems plenty enough.

  • @docsportello5833
    @docsportello5833 6 лет назад +1

    Great video, thank you for sharing your experience. The Mamiya c330f is my favourite camera, it is so much fun to shoot.

  • @mudgie069
    @mudgie069 5 лет назад +2

    Great comparison. I opted for the Mamiya because of the interchangeable lens selection. Both are excellent TLR's though.

  • @certs743
    @certs743 3 года назад +1

    Great video. I just recently acquired my Mamiya C2 which is a bit smaller and lighter and I am very happy with the 80mm F 2.8. Based on some info on line the lens formula on both cameras seem to be the same Planar 6 elements in 5 groups so it is no wonder the pictures look very similar too.

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 4 года назад +1

    I have always wanted one of those Mamiyas. Nice comparison.

  • @lelalela7311
    @lelalela7311 4 года назад +1

    Excellent comparison! Thank you!

  • @cafequemao
    @cafequemao 3 года назад +1

    Love my C220 and I’m always impressed by the images. And like you said, it’s a tank and I’m not afraid to lug it around.

  • @landesnorm
    @landesnorm 3 года назад +2

    Hey Eduardo, thanks for this video! Watched it several times. I used to shoot with a Mamiya C3 and found it cumbersome for street/field work except for product photography on location. For a while, I had a Rolleicord in my possession (not a Rolleiflex, but closer than a Mamiya) and found it easier for casual work. The Mamiya was great on a tripod in the studio for portraits; on the other hand, Avedon used a Rolleiflex for some of his portraiture. Eventually, I gave up on TLRs and used a Hasselblad 500C/M which became the workhorse of my studio along with my Calumet 4x5. I still miss the Mamiya C3 though. A great camera. Oh, and btw, the Seiko shutter on the Mamiya never stuck or slowed down like the Rollei shutters. Thanks again for the video!

  • @Zetaphotography
    @Zetaphotography 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video. Ordered your zines, great images, Picked up a Rolliecord and now for closeups a C220 802.8. Excellent cameras. Come to Florida again and Ill buy you some coffee.

  • @russellsprout2223
    @russellsprout2223 2 года назад

    Excellent camera comparison. Informative and well presented, but the lovely Fran stole the show. Great video. 👍

  • @acidsnow5915
    @acidsnow5915 6 лет назад

    Great video as usual thanks for sharing this with us. Always love watching your videos

  • @jeffholland7385
    @jeffholland7385 3 года назад +1

    Nice review! Your work is appreciated!

  • @Larpy1933
    @Larpy1933 Год назад

    Thanks a lot. I learned a lot about the Mamiya (I’m familiar w/ the ‘Flex.). Good work! And good luck to you.

  • @blackdotvisuals6863
    @blackdotvisuals6863 6 лет назад +1

    Great video again Eduardo, thanks!

  • @roberttschmelak6706
    @roberttschmelak6706 3 года назад

    Hello Eduardo, great job! Thank you for sharing.

  • @wladilabra
    @wladilabra 2 года назад

    Desde hacer unos meses llevo buscando información sobre cámaras TLR tús videos siempre son de ayuda, encontré una cámara Walzflex con un montón de accesorios, se que no es top notch pero es un buen inicio, gracias!

  • @ignaciobravomatheu5194
    @ignaciobravomatheu5194 6 лет назад

    Ahhh, que bello. Mañana tendré en mis manos la C330. Gracias por el review, mate.

  • @nepenthesbaphomet
    @nepenthesbaphomet 4 года назад

    I wasn't sure that I wanted to get this Mamiya c330 that was at the shop or wait for a flex f2.8 to fall from the sky, and man this video sold me. Just put my first roll in my first medium format and c330 thanks for this fantastic review.

  • @stephaneg
    @stephaneg 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome video man! Thing is the 2.8f Planar would have been closer to the c330f. Thanks for sharing this. Your videos are always awesome!

  • @DonDiejo
    @DonDiejo 6 лет назад

    Sencillamente genial todo el vídeo. Mí admiración por Maier siempre me llevo a querer una Rollei pero hoy aprendi mucho sobre comprar utilidad, no marcas.

  • @ImperiousImages
    @ImperiousImages 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks for making this video. I already had a C330 and recently bought a Rollei 2.8. Great job on comparing the pros and cons. *** ALSO Where can I find out more about the jazz music in this video?? it was great.

  • @carvinganish
    @carvinganish 6 лет назад +1

    Hey Eduardo - great comparison video, maybe one of your best! Very well structured review, and the real-world comparison with pictures at the end was perfect :)

  • @pdavis500
    @pdavis500 2 года назад +1

    I have a Mamiya C220, and also a Yashica 'A' which are great cameras to own. I've not used the Mamiya yet having inherited it from my Uncle, the 'A' has been in the family for years and I recall taking photos with it when younger. I'll have to get some film and get back into it a tear myself away from my digital Cannons and Panasonic. Love the films and you advocacy of film photography,

  • @sorthaj
    @sorthaj 5 лет назад +1

    Hello Eduardo. Great video. Are you familiar with the Paramender for the C330, made to correct for parallax?

  • @MarkHickford
    @MarkHickford 6 лет назад +1

    I have the 2.8e with the Xenotar lens and love it. Yes, the focussing screen is a little dim and the magnifier doesn't cover the screen, but it still a beautiful camera that produces beautiful images! :)

  • @spiritwalker6153
    @spiritwalker6153 4 года назад +1

    I have a Mamiya C330 with the 105 mm lens. Takes great pictures, easy to use, and relatively inexpensive. Great camera and you have a great presentation.

  • @anstef1485
    @anstef1485 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, I have a C220, which is a less expensive version of the C330 (simpler advance mechanism, parallax correction, etc), but has all the main features since it uses the same lenses. I think both cameras pictures are evenly matched except when it comes to close focus pictures where the Mamiya shows a much better image quality.

  • @jensruckert4763
    @jensruckert4763 5 лет назад +1

    Hello there! Thank you for the great video! I have a view TLRs, those two, the different Mamiya lenses and a Meopta... I like them all and use them for different reasons on different occasions: in one I shoot colour film in the other one black and white, one I use for landscapes one for close ups or portraits, one for city walks ... one for the day out at the seaside. What I like with the mamiya lenses is the outcome with Kodak portra films... maybe my personal impression. the fixed lenses I use with 400 fomapan mostly. Whereas the close up with the Mamiya lenses is marvelous... and to collect and to hold them in the hands... all of them are just gems haptically and mechanically and qualitywise ...

  • @post3670
    @post3670 6 месяцев назад

    Llevo 6 meses aprox sacando fotografías y mañana 15 de Diciembre comprare la Mamiya C330, la fotografía me ha hecho felíz y al ver este vídeo he sentido una felicidad cómo cuando eri pendejo y estas emocionado por los regalos de navidad, gracias por eso Ed!

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 5 дней назад

    I just obtained a C3330 in great condition. Thank you for a great video
    RS. Canada

  • @followthe-Light
    @followthe-Light 4 года назад +2

    Thank you, nice review. I've started with the C330 F and now have the S version and will stick with it. For me weight isn't a big issue (I also work with 4x5), what is important is the contrast, sharpness and acutance of the optics. I see little difference in the quality of the images thus, there is no reason to over spend for an over-priced tool!

  • @MrHero0220
    @MrHero0220 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for the great video. It let me know that I made a great decision when I bought my Mamiya C330. Of course I will still lust after the Rolleiflex 2.8.

  • @SGMieres
    @SGMieres Год назад

    Una clase magistral. Y las dudas volaron. ¡Gracias!

  • @markguieb3613
    @markguieb3613 5 лет назад

    I much prefer the mamiyas photos although the size is the compromise I think it’s worth it for the quality. And that viewfinder is just beautiful!
    Keep it up I love your channel!

  • @leonarddaneman810
    @leonarddaneman810 4 года назад +1

    Used a C330 since 1971 . . . there is nothing quite like it. Moved up to 6x7, but the C330 was more like a part of me. Now, shoot mostly 4:3 or with a Pentax 645z.

  • @stuartcarden5402
    @stuartcarden5402 6 лет назад +2

    Really great video as always. I take it you're aware that the picture behind you is upside down? :)

  • @mynewcolour
    @mynewcolour 4 года назад +1

    Your content is amazing. ✌🏼

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus Год назад +1

    When I started working for a wedding studio, I was issued a Yashica TLR camera. When I started shooting weddings, portraits, and product shots on my own, I purchased a Mamiya TLR because I needed interchangeable lenses. I usually used 55mm wide-angle, 80mm normal, and 180mm telephoto lenses.

  • @felixk1606
    @felixk1606 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video its been an eye opener I prefer the look of the Mamiya when you compared the photos. I'll put my Rolleiflex 2.8F away for now and get the Mamiya C330.Cheers

  • @EricGibaud
    @EricGibaud 6 лет назад +1

    Great video. I had a Mamiya c330, it si a great camera, for me the best feature is the possibility of changing lenses, the down side is the weight and massive size. I sold it a few month ago, I now use a Hasselblad for my 6x6 pictures. I would like to have a Rolleiflex though, more for the history and legend than anything else... I have a Hasselblad 503cw, a Leica M4-P.... I think a Rolleiflex name is needed LOL. Saludos a tu gato/a Hamburguesa que solo parece entender español :-)

  • @azamaris8414
    @azamaris8414 4 года назад +1

    I love my Pentax spotmatic / industar 50-2 😊

  • @qnetx
    @qnetx 6 лет назад +1

    I really love my Mamiya C330 Professional F. I also have some smaller TLRs but I prefer the Mamiya despite the size an weight.

  • @helinophoto
    @helinophoto 5 лет назад

    I changed the focusing screen on both my 2.8F and 3.5 MX EVS,the 2.8 has a removable hood, the 2.8E is similar to my MX EVS, you remove 4 screws, remove the waist level finder and replace the screen.
    Got mine fairly cheap from Rick Oleson, they were magnitudes brighter than the original screens.
    Double exposure can be done by sliding a little slider on the crank and crank the opposite direction to load the shutter again.
    Get an Automat or a 3.5, they are around 1kg and doesn't cost as much as the 2.8 versions. (all rolleflexes, as far as i know, has a 2.8 lens for focusing, the difference is the taking lens).
    I have 2 flex'es, the Memiya isn't interesting for me, but to each their own ^^

  • @ryanh3635
    @ryanh3635 6 лет назад +1

    i really enjoy your video's. just a tip. during the introduction i suggest a tripod or stabilizing the footage in editing. the shaky footage is not really necessary. Other than that, thumbs up!

  • @paulhyde1834
    @paulhyde1834 5 месяцев назад

    I can't count the number of weddings and portraits I did 'back in the day' with trusty C330f. But, for mobility, a Yashica MAT is a good choice. The Yashinon lens is superb and it's light and fairly compact. Wonderful to see all these old beauties having a renaissance!!

  • @TheDarkRane
    @TheDarkRane 6 лет назад +6

    Wow! The Rolleiflex was on my list of cameras to own one day but I think the Mamiya just knocked it right off the list!
    Great video as always. Super informative.
    You should check out Ian Wong and his series Digital Darkroom. His channel and yours are my favourite film photography channels on RUclips and I would love to see you on an episode if you're ever in the same area.

  • @darrendavis927
    @darrendavis927 5 лет назад +1

    Nice comparison, I was lucky enough to pick up a mamiya c330 s recently from a charity shop for less than £5.00, I dont usually shoot film but think i may have a play. will certainly be a learning curve after using a sony a7ii.

  • @timtoner1411
    @timtoner1411 2 года назад

    I used to shoot weddings in the 70's with a C330 & loved it. Another difference between the cameras is the rack & pinion focusing found on the C330. This is why you can focus on shorter distances. Another, difference is most of the Rollie's have Zeiss lenses.

  • @tomscameras
    @tomscameras 2 года назад

    Great comparison, many thanks! I have the C330 myself but am thinking to add a Rolleiflex cause the Mamiya is too heavy for my taste. Are you sure that the Rolleiflex does not have parallax correction? Many sources online say they also have it ...

  • @hgrgrnd1206
    @hgrgrnd1206 6 лет назад

    Also, something to consider on the Vb, is the focus screen just pops out, no tools required.

  • @110jim
    @110jim 5 лет назад

    I just bought a C330f to replace the one I sold about 20 years ago. It's now my only camera (apart from the one on my phone). I'm biased, but the Mamiya stomps all over a Rolleiflex as far as I'm concerned. Interchangeable lenses, interchangeable viewfinders, close focus. It's near perfection!

  • @mchlhth
    @mchlhth 6 лет назад +1

    In my personal experience, I never felt like I was missing out on much by using a Rolleiflex 3.5 MX-EVS or a Rolleicord Vb. They cost way less than the Rolleiflex 2.8 models -- I paid under US $500 for each in good condition -- they both weigh under 1kg, and the Rolleicord has swappable screens and viewfinder hoods (there's even a pentaprism finder available). The 2/3 stop difference in light gathering hasn't bothered me in the slightest.

  • @antoineperier3789
    @antoineperier3789 5 лет назад

    Hi Edouardo. Interesting comparison. Just one remark. Rolleiflex has an automatic paralax correction which is really better than the red line of the mamiya. To be mentioned is the mamiya paramender if you want a precise view, but it is heavy and slow... Best regards

  • @marcoandres7475
    @marcoandres7475 5 лет назад

    Eduardo, Your videos are superb engaging and informative, with sly humor ; )
    The Rolleiflex 3.5 (max aperture 3,5) might be a better comparison since it is less expensive than the Rolleiflex 2.8. The Rolleiflex 3.5 taking lens is a 75/3,5 rather than an 80/2,8, resulting in a slightly wider field of view and the largest aperture slightly smaller (3,5 vs 2,8).
    The Japanese Minolta Autocord is a "sleeper" TLR making it less expensive than the 3.5. The Autocord has a Rokkor 75/3,5 taking lens, just like the Rolleiflex 3.5. Aperture and shutter speed are set just like the Rolleiflex using wheels. However the Autocord locks the EV [like the old Hasselblad Zeiss 80mm lens and some Rolleiflex cameras]. The right hand can focus using the lever on the bottom front and press the shutter release button on the right front, leaving the left hand free to hold the camera (or flash).
    The Rokkor is considered to be the equal to the 3.5 Zeiss Planar (the Schneider Xenotar should be similar to the Planar). While I haven't noticed a difference between my Rolleiflex 3,5F Planar and the Autocord 3,5 Rokkor, the Autocord is definitely not as buttery smooth (well-made). The Autocord, like the Mamiya c330, takes Bay i accessories.
    Rolleinars are diopters with parallax correction (+1, +2, +3). Bay i Rolleinars are less expensive than Bay ii which, in turn, are less expensive than Bay iii. Other manufacturers have equivalents that are less expensive (Aico, Camrex).

  • @swiftangel88
    @swiftangel88 6 лет назад

    I have the C330 and Rolleiflex F3.5 but the TLR that gets the most use, would be my Yashica 124G. With its built in accurate light meter, you have less chance of missing shots. It is also my camera of choice when travelling abroad. In July, I will be in Japan and will take my Hasselblad 500C/M with 80mm F2.8 Lens, not the most portable camera either, especially with a PME metered viewfinder.

  • @HAVIK009
    @HAVIK009 6 лет назад +2

    Ed! The genius behind Fran. Now I follow you. Muahahaha

  • @alexandros-markovits
    @alexandros-markovits 6 лет назад +1

    Wonderful cameras!

  • @franciscodomenech1142
    @franciscodomenech1142 5 лет назад

    Excelentes consejos Eduardo para los que estamos pensando en comprar una cámara analógica de medio formato.
    Estaría bien que hicieras un vídeo de como revelas ,escaneas y retocas las fotos, que tipos de carretes usas, cuanto te cuestan.... un saludo desde España.

  • @paularowe7651
    @paularowe7651 2 года назад

    Very good video. I have the Rollei 2.8E2 and Rolleicord also Mamiya C330 and C3. I have also owned most of the Yashica tlrs. They are all good machines. I do like the Mamiya a lot for its lens interchangeability. I do own a Mamiya C 3 which someone fitted two matching vintage lenses

    • @paularowe7651
      @paularowe7651 2 года назад

      To finish my previous comment... two matching focal length lenses from old folders were mounted on a home-made base and fitted the camera well. I have some interesting 'vintage'- style images this way!

  • @TXGRunner
    @TXGRunner Год назад +1

    I love the way you say "Mamiya" with latin flair.

  • @MarcS4R
    @MarcS4R 2 года назад +1

    i was suprised how good the images of the Mamiya looked .

  • @williamparkhill8646
    @williamparkhill8646 3 года назад

    Great video! enjoyed watching. I have a question. I have a Mamiyaflex C2 and love it very much. Its condition is good, but more worn and fragile at this point. I have been thinking about also getting a c330 to take around as well. Do you know if the lenses of the older C2 are compatible with the c330?

  • @alexcasaresOracleAZ
    @alexcasaresOracleAZ 6 лет назад +48

    Nice but I'll stick with my Yaschica Mat-124G. 📸😜📸

  • @albertogarcia1386
    @albertogarcia1386 5 лет назад +13

    There is a photo on the back that is up side down. Hehe

  • @Bass-guitarist
    @Bass-guitarist 2 года назад

    The images blown up from my Mamiya C3 are just as sharp as the bronica ETRS lens MC that I use. People under estimate the TLR but its a great and often budget way of getting into 6x6 medium format.

  • @IainHC1
    @IainHC1 6 лет назад +3

    I own and love both cameras. I love them both for the exact same difference reasons you pointed out. The hardest part of a days shoot is deciding which one to take. Invariably i end up taking both! One with BnW loaded and the other with C41 loaded (it's a great excuse to justify taking both ;-) )

    • @EstebanFonsecaAR
      @EstebanFonsecaAR Год назад +1

      You need to buy another one and load it with slide film :D

    • @IainHC1
      @IainHC1 Год назад

      @@EstebanFonsecaAR 😀 Please don't tempt me!! 😀

  • @JSL1986
    @JSL1986 4 года назад +2

    Nice video, i have both cameras, Mamiya is the best, but Rollei is my love.

  • @sammysatsangi7754
    @sammysatsangi7754 3 года назад +1

    Lovely video. Thoroughly enjoyed. Thanks a lot. i have subscribed.

  • @cappysdad383
    @cappysdad383 2 года назад

    Excellent video Eduardo. I also have a Rolleiflex 2.8E and my Mamiya is the C220 Professional F. You did a great job of pros and cons of each but I have one to add. The Rolleiflex has a DOF scale which I find invaluable for landscape photography. I am not sure about the C330 but my C220 Pro F has only a distance scale (only in meters, and also hard to get an exact reading on that curved line). The C220 manual has DOF charts which are cumbersome to use, and they are in feet! How do you estimate DOF with Mamiya when required? Thanks again for an informative video.

  • @ZachBie
    @ZachBie 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for reminding me that my C330 is all that I need.

    • @leslumieres1237
      @leslumieres1237 3 года назад

      Except for making razor sharp images.

    • @marcelocampoamor4761
      @marcelocampoamor4761 3 года назад

      @@leslumieres1237 I doubt that you can see differences on RUclips, but the photos that Eduardo showed do not demonstrate your sayings that the photos taken with the Rolleiflex were sharper than those of the Mamiya, I do not have one or the other but the photos of the Mamiya I have liked a little more.

  • @NapathomNapathom
    @NapathomNapathom 5 лет назад +3

    Rolleiflex 2.8e a little bit much more contrast than Mamiya C330
    but i love C330 ..
    Thanks a lots for your video , good job.
    take care.

  • @raymondmartinezjr7718
    @raymondmartinezjr7718 5 месяцев назад

    Nicely done Ed. I’ve wanted a TLR since I got into photography in the early 70’s. I always figured that the Yashica Mat 124-G was all I’d be able to afford. Fast forward to 2023. I’m nearing retirement. Now I’m researching TLRs and I find that Yashicas, Rolleis, and Mamiyas are all the same prices. After watching your comparison video, I’m leaning towards the C330.

    • @Elleaf1
      @Elleaf1 3 месяца назад

      I have the Yashicamat 124 (exactly the same as the "G" version except the G has gold contacts or something) and honestly I sort of concluded that the miyama is probably the better camera even before seeing this video. After seeing the video, im even more convinced. That being said, the yashica is gd beautiful and a delight to use/handle (well, its not perfect to handle, but its pretty dang good). Btw, if you do go for the yashica, I recommend the 124 (as opposed to the 124G) purely because I think its far more aesthetically appealing than the G version. Its got way more chrome and the name plate isnt as messy. It looks like a classic camera (like a rollei). Plus, I heard someone say that the earlier models (the 124 came first) are more precisely machined since the tools were new and they didnt replace the tools, so the later models had weaker tolerances.
      But you should probably get the Miyama. I might have gotten it if I hadnt fallen in love with the aesthetic of the yashica (or just about any early tlr, or any tlr that looks like a rollei). That being said, dont discount the major "ease of use" factor that he pointed out. The size and design of the rollei/yashica is very nice to use. And even the, the yashica is a bit heavy, just on the edge of being annoying, so I'm sure the miyama gets very annoying to hang on to. Especially when you're carefully composing a really neat shot in a really awkward position bent over and you're sweating.
      Miyama will make you work to produce the image that you composed in your head, but it will deliver. The rollei/yashica will be easier to use, but more limited in what it can deliver. The $150 lens attachments he mentioned can be substituted with cheaper clones on ebay, btw. Probably not as good, but hey, its a hobby, not a job, right? Not sure why I'm telling you all of this. I'm tired but I feel compelled to write this all out.
      Conclusion: If you want range and flexibility and capability and speed and focusing accuracy, if you value those over comfort and stamina go for the miyama
      If you want the experience of physically taking the photos to be a delight instead of a pain, and if you dont mind being somewhat restricted, and you want a good looking camera, go for the Yashica. I really love mine. I sort of think that someday I'll get a miyama when I get good enough that I can no longer tolerate being restricted. I think it would be a nice upgrade, especially for close up stuff. But in the mean time, I'm gonna enjoy my Yashica Mat 124. Btw, when I was looking about a year and a half ago, it seemed like yashicas were cheaper than Miyamas. But maybe thats just the 124. Its usually cheaper than the 124G since fewer people know about it and just assume its an inferior version (when, imo, the opposite is true.)
      Ok, my essay is finished.

  • @philhodgkinson1460
    @philhodgkinson1460 2 года назад

    I own a Mamiya like yours and love it seen ppl review these 2 cameras together and the Rolliflex seems to win....
    I love my Mamiya yes its heavy... but what an amazing machine !!!

  • @Bernd-ec4tn
    @Bernd-ec4tn 5 лет назад

    Hello Eduardo,
    I have a question. Where did you buy the strap for your Rolleiflex? I have also a Rolleiflex and I did not find a strap with good quality.
    Thanx Bernd

  • @abben
    @abben 4 года назад +2

    Watching this cause I'm in the process of selling my Rolleis and I wanna fill the void with another medium format camera. C330's on my list for sure now.

  • @2003MASIGC
    @2003MASIGC 4 года назад

    I never had a problem with portability with any of my Mamiyas. I carry my C330s in the same sling bag as my 5DMk IV.
    The Mamiyas are better when working with a tripod.
    I shot weddings with an RZ67 with the 6x6 back and the C330 as the second camera.
    My first Mamiya was a C22 that I bought used with a brand 80mm lens from a friend. I still have the lens and a 135mm. I sold the C22 with a 105mm and my magnifier hood.

  • @markmueller5508
    @markmueller5508 7 месяцев назад

    I have the Mamiya 330 Professional f. It has both the waist level finder and a penta-prism head which can be switched out for eye level finding.

  • @dimiutube
    @dimiutube 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the great comparison. I'm really looking for a Rolleiflex, because it was built in the city I was born. But the price I'd have to pay is way to high :-( Maybe I'd go for one with a f/3.5 lense, which might be available cheaper. Thanks again!

  • @rolandthomasset1713
    @rolandthomasset1713 3 года назад

    Very nice presentation and comparison. I have used both cameras, their quality is superb.
    The type of photography you are doing should help you decide easily which one to use. I have used the Rollei 75mm 3.5 which gives me a slightly wider angle of coverage than the 80mm (it is also cheaper on the present market), My shooting , for a good 60 years, has been quick action such as what we find in wedding photography and for this I say "Rollei" without hesitation ...And besides the several features that are somewhat special and nice there is
    one never mentioned although terrific once you learn how to use it: The Rolleiflex cameras (1955 and up) have a unique feature incorporated in the sport open frame viewfinder ! Some may even ask why would you want to use such finder when using the groundglass offers a good reliable image ? Well, my friends, investigate and start playing with it for a while.....
    At first you may not see the point, keep trying and shoot people moving around and then the special feature only found on the Rollei should begin to make sense...The "inverted magnifier lens" that shows up when you push down the front flap in order to use the open frame finder is my "secret feature" I said "inverted' yes..but within a few minutes you won't even notice or care if it is inverted or not ! It will become your super quick (shaded) focusing tool ! guaranteed !
    How accurate will your framing be ? Well, not 100 % or even 90 % but think 80% and it's all you need believe me ! The big difference now is that you will get the shot you wanted way before your friend next to you using the reflex ground glass. You will get the smile or action you wanted !!!! The camera covers more than the finder anyway so you're safe.
    If needed you will crop and adjust your shot in printing, your main subject will be there well framed once you will learn how to look correctly through the finder. And your eye will easily jump from magnifier to the open frame in one second only !
    I'm now 92 years old... and wish I could keep shooting with my Rolleis. If you get the Mamiya 330 it is a great camera too, but definitely slower to use. I also own two Rollei 6006 and that's another story for another day !

  • @dale.gallaza
    @dale.gallaza 6 лет назад +3

    I watched this because i own a mamiya c330. one of my favorites.. love it so much. :)

  • @stevycladia6233
    @stevycladia6233 6 лет назад +1

    you can get rolleicord V which is around 250-300 usd same experience and quality as the rolleiflex

  • @zguy95135
    @zguy95135 6 лет назад

    Handling is such an important factor IMO. When I had my RB67 it had great features but it was so big and uncomfortable to use I didn't shoot much with it, and rarely brought it with me. If I had bought a Hasselblad I would have used it a lot more since it's easier to wield. I love the Mamiya 6 that I have now and bring and shoot it all the time

    • @terrycullinane5963
      @terrycullinane5963 5 лет назад

      RB67 is a 6x7 SLR, of course it's going to be larger than a 6x6 ..... I bought a Mamiya grip for mine, which made it very easy to use in the field.... in the studio i used it on a tripod attached to a Dolly...very mobile!

  • @stephanfinsterbusch6261
    @stephanfinsterbusch6261 4 года назад +1

    great video. tx for sharing experience

  • @robertkrysik100
    @robertkrysik100 2 года назад

    Super video and lovely jazz music

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 3 года назад

    Would love a Mamiya. For fixed lens option I would probably go for Yashica or Minolta.

  • @zakmiroslaw
    @zakmiroslaw 4 года назад +1

    Great presentation! Thanks!

  • @no-frills8812
    @no-frills8812 3 года назад

    The Mamiya C330 has some more pros and cons. I used one from 1979 to about 1995 with 80mm, 135mm, 180mm lens, waist level finder, the Mirror finder and an adapted M645 grip. I can't remember the wide angle I bought later, perhaps it was the 55mm.
    Cons: the bellow extends much to far with 135mm and 250mm and the combination gets very bulky. Therefore I used the 135mm and 250mm with close-up lens all the time, even in infinity. I had no problems with sharpness using the close-up lenses even in infinity. Using close-up lenses affects the parallax indicator and one have to make addional own marks with something on the screen or to remember the differences.
    Pros: C330 has a filter thread. I used the same red, green and yellow filters as I used on my Nikons with step down adapters. Rollei uses a bayonet for close-up lenses and one have to buy this rare things. Rollei produced a Prism Finder. But Mamiya produced more finders: the Mirror Finder, similar to a Prism Finder, a better Prism Finder and a Magnification Finder.
    Perhaps you find sometime old german photo magazines of the 60s ore 70s and you will find a lot guys proud to have 3 Rolleis: the Rollei with 75 or 80mm, the Tele Rollei and the Wide Angle Rollei. Mamiya made it very easy with interchangeable lenses: 55mm, 65mm, 80mm, one about 105mm, 135mm, 180mm and 250mm.
    I used the C330 for landscape and street photography and used almost every time my Nikons for light metering. The only issue I get with the C330 was film transportation. I got after some months only 11 instead of 12 images on 120 film and 20 instead of 24 on 220 film. Repair was to expensive and I quit the 220 film that was rare even in this time. To shoot 12 on 120 I winded the film at the at and used the C300's capability to make double exposures.
    It is real fun to see younger photographers like you using this cams today. I sold my C330 about 1995 to buy a Mamiya M645 and the russian Kiew, a Hasselblad replica but with palin shutter instead the Hasselblad leaf shutter.
    I can really recommend the cheap russian Kiew. It was never the best cam on the market, but some of the lenses where great and cheap, too. E.g. the 30mm fisheye. The Kiew can use Pentacon Six or Mamiya M645 lenses with rare adaptors /ther was also a rare adaptor to use the fisheye and other Kiew lenses on Mamiya and some other brands). It's weakest points are the film magazines. I had to buy 6 to get 4 lightproof and out of that only 2 were usable with IR film.