Another excellent demo / video. I enjoyed your 'Bob Hoover' one wheelers and other scale flying. I guess it was fairly calm, but it looked like the plane was smooth all through the flight - almost like a larger model. I love how the Mustangs handle, and this one looked good even being the smaller size!
Great review and flying of the “Detroit Miss” Adam. Very informative and like how in your vids, comments are kept short and precise so the viewer can absorb the demonstration and not distracted by continuous talking as in other yet vids. Excellent camera footage Heidi, enjoy your knowledge on the subject at hand. Keep up the good work you two!😊
Outstanding little Mustang Adam! She really looks the part, both on the ground and in the air. I simply CANNOT believe the price point on this, very nice and it appears inflation isn't effecting many of the Horizon products, and that's a good thing for sure! All the best to Team Gault!
Adam thanks for the video, I just received my Detroit Miss as I never purchased the VooDoo as I wasn't a fan of that paint scheme. funny how the Voodoo's battery was placed forward and the DM all the way back. Hope to maiden it soon due to the weather in NY and try some one wheel landings.
Thanks Adam; thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing your experiences 4:17 regarding ‘linear servo lock potential’ and your recommendation to ‘limit’ servo travel to 95%.
Thanks Adam another good video and mine is still in the box due to weather, its waiting for that maiden I know it will handle good like all the other umx's 😊👍👍👍👍
Thanks, another great little plane. A UMX Stuka has to be on the cards, then we may as well have the rest of the WWII warbirds, including the P38 and Mosquito.
Dang! Heidi really earned her pay (ha! As if!) Filming this little bugger! Power and agility. Once I'm out of the credit card dog house (3 new planes since New Years...ouch) I'll slide this on my short list for sure. I don't have ANY P51's!😮 I know- shameful... 😂 Great review! Thanks y'all 👍
She did Al! Lol. Thanks man. Wow three since NY...awesome. He he. YES, a Spitfire or Mustang must be in every fleet! Ok not really. I just like sayin' that. Lol
Always a great presentation & flights that do not disappoint I have the larger 800mm HK version with gyro & flies so well . This is a nice little model with the similar price here as the Micro Draco.well done Adam🇺🇸🇦🇺👍
Very good review, Tug's bank said I have spent too much till may at least, LoL Mini Draco, SWS Turbo Timber, X-Fly Twin Otter2m and Repairs have put my hobby dollars out there. I also donate planes and radios to Disabled/PTSD veterans and have had other YT channels donate planes to this cause. Again Adam flies yet another plane Tug wants in his hanger. Good video and great Job Heidi.
Thanks Tug! I know what you mean man, the hangar gets full quick! Heidi's uncle works with dogs that are trained and given to veterans with PTSD. Amazing what a furry friend can do.
Looked like an excellent UMX once the gear was removed. When you were flying inverted with the gear, it was too much for me and I had to make use of the chapter marks ;) I threw away the gear from my old PZ 1.1M Trojan many years ago! I loved that last flight you did. Although I don't need a UMX (that Crescendo keeps calling though), I have to admit that E-Flite are really kicking it out of the park with the current selection.
Thanks man! Yep, the Micro and UMX line is awesome right now. Interesting fact...Bob Hoover did a (slightly) dirty inverted pass with his P-51 in airshows for a while. Gear down but flaps up. He only did it one or two seasons, but he did it.
Well to be fair you're still pretty much right as this isn't normally scale with a warbird like that. I think he only did it a short time because it was sketch. Going slow enough not to over speed the gear, but inverted and low doesn't leave much margin at all.
Hello there. Im curious if you grab your nose cone or prop does your motor kind of wiggle ? Mine does and not sure if it's supposed to be like that. I wouldn't think so lol. It's not like these are easy to open up and get to the motor either.
Interesting. I mean, if I put some pressure on it, yes. Not much though, and you have to remember it is a plastic mount in a very small piece of foam. There is more potential play in any UMX than say a park flyer where you have mush more foam, and more dense foam. So a tiny bit you're fine, if it moves a lot not so much.
Great review. I was going to fly mine , but noticed that the aileron deflection was not equal when going from left to right. (ie -full aileron right gave a smaller deflection on the left and vice-versa) My other UMX planes had equal aileron differential deflection. Did you notice this? Thanks k
Thanks for getting back to me. I spoke to manufactures about the difference aileron throw. They said the differential aileron throw is normal . To stop the plane from stalling on a turn. -great channel and flying !!@@ModelAV8RChannel
Ahh yes. I thought you meant the total deflection one way was more than the other. Mechanical differential is normal with a lot of models. The aileron that goes up will go up farther than the aileron that goes down. This is actually more to coordinate the turn without rudder (as most model pilots don't use rudder much). The plane will still stall in a turn...or even straight and level if you get too slow and reach critical angle of attack. Differential can't prevent that, however it can delay a wing drop in a stall a bit, but the wing will eventually drop in a hard stall.
Wow so eloquently put. So basically the umx mustang is designed that way with differential aileron movement. You certainly know your stuff -thanks for explaining to me…. As a relative rookie in rc flying, i thought the mustang was faulty, when I tested ether ailerons. Cheers @@ModelAV8RChannel
Hi Adam - for me and I think for the money the FMS P51D 800mm Big Beautiful Doll gives you more bang per buck, its bigger but still small enough to be an easy transport option... also comes with Reflex (Safe and AS3X) for those who want it, how about doing a side by side comparison that would make a good video.. I might have missed it but did you say anything about the weight, is this another one of those lets go small so we don't need remote ID.... ?
Yes, he mentioned the weight, at around 4 ounces, and it is under 250 grams, so no ID requirement, if you’re not flying at a FRIA. Just like the UMX Voodoo, which is also an excellent flyer. I also agree with his comment about Horizon making the planes in this category.
The size difference is much more than you're thinking. The UMX is tiny. It costs more to shrink things up sometimes. I would rather have this than an 800m as I already have many 800mm planes. It flies just as well and is under 250 grams. It's two different animals. I can fly this in much smaller areas with a 2s. lol.
Hi Martyn. The UMX flying weight is 112g (4 oz) so about 1/4 of the 800mm planes. I do not have the FMS P-51 but I do have the Corsair. Every UMX plane I own (10 or so) is more enjoyable than it has been.
Looks cool. The trim colors are wrong for that squadron. They should be blue. Many documentation sources have it wrong too. The red on the canopy is just the German flags. It was never red.
There's actual pictures from the war of that plane...the canopy frame is clearly painted, not just kill markings. According to testimony of actual pilots that served in that squadron...the trim was red. The 352nd fighter group had blue trim.
Ford doesn't spend the money to develop things that benefit Chevy. Getting a Spektrum TX will solve your problem. And listen, I get the "proprietary" argument. Horizon/Spektrum makes planes for Spektrum...I get it. Funny how nobody asks why doesn't FrSky/Futaba/Jeti/ etc. make cool planes. Your TX of choice could, but they don't...Horizon does spend the money to develop all that, and I'm okay with them making the money off of it. Just my two cents...
…also went back and watched your voodoo upload and compared your set up ; the expo values are little different on this one, and with the voodoo you had the battery forward …go back and slam that voodoo battery to the rear ! 8^)
They are both great flyers, but for me personally the Waco all day long. It will fly much slower and can be enjoyed in a smaller area. Very aerobatic, and just really pretty.
I wonder why the Voodoo needs the battery all the way foward wit 1/8 oz weight added sugjested by you and this one needs the battery all tyhe way back if it's the same plane with a new paint scheme.
Probably the paint itself. We've seen some differences in CG with UMX planes that are fully painted. At that size, if one plane has more paint to the rear than another it can affect the CG. It can be as simple as how fast one person person on the line moves the spray gun vs another. Whatever the reason, we fly, test, tune, and determine the set up for each plane. If one comes out different than another it is what it is as long as they fly well.
@@ModelAV8RChannel yes my controlsurfaces are all perfectly mechanically adjust without safe and checked all. Everything is total fine although it is a bit noseheavy with the 3s battery all the way back.. but you say it is not bad and i can go out and fly it tomorrow early morning?? There will not be any trouble or Problems ? Thanks for your help ! Have a nice day. Greetings from Austria/Salzburg
@@DimitriBisas Ahh ok, I thought you were saying it was nose heavy after flying it. Yes it will be fine. Just put the battery in the back and go fly it.
@@ModelAV8RChannel no, Tomorrow is the Maiden flight of her! I checked everything and centered all controlsurfaces! Okay if you say it will be fine if i put the battery all the way back because i was a tiny bit confused of the cg because she is still noseheavy with the battery all the way back.
Neat review of a neat little UMX, Adam. It's time E-flite fought back against the tide of Eachine-esque mini warbirds.
Thanks Gina! Nice little Stang for sure!
The history of the Detroit Miss says it's not just a Mustang, but a Crazy Horse!!
Good stuff Adam and Heidi, AirHammer out!!
Sho Nuf Hammer! Thanks man!
Another excellent demo / video. I enjoyed your 'Bob Hoover' one wheelers and other scale flying. I guess it was fairly calm, but it looked like the plane was smooth all through the flight - almost like a larger model. I love how the Mustangs handle, and this one looked good even being the smaller size!
Thanks very much! Yep, Bob was inspiring to me when I was a kid. They really have these UMX planes tuned well.
The sound of the little 4-blade prop during a high-speed pass was awesome!. That was great flying. I loved the one-wheel.
Thanks! Yep it rips at WOT! I love doing the "Bob Hoover".
Need to learn that 1 wheel maneuver
Great review and flying of the “Detroit Miss” Adam. Very informative and like how in your vids, comments are kept short and precise so the viewer can absorb the demonstration and not distracted by continuous talking as in other yet vids. Excellent camera footage Heidi, enjoy your knowledge on the subject at hand. Keep up the good work you two!😊
Thanks very much!
Really nice camera work. That's a small target
It is, Heidi was on. Thank you Ruby.
Great video, your reviews are a lot more informative and helpful than most of the other reviewers on RUclips
Thanks very much!
Outstanding little Mustang Adam! She really looks the part, both on the ground and in the air. I simply CANNOT believe the price point on this, very nice and it appears inflation isn't effecting many of the Horizon products, and that's a good thing for sure! All the best to Team Gault!
Thanks John! It really is a peach!
Nice history on the P-51D. Thanks for sharing Adam! Nice flight. Semper Fi!
Thanks man!
Very nice video sir I want to thank you for the settings you share with us!!! Have a good day from Athens -Greece...
Thanks very much! Glad it is helpful.
Great overview! Convinced me to buy it! 😊
Thanks, enjoy it!
Adam thanks for the video, I just received my Detroit Miss as I never purchased the VooDoo as I wasn't a fan of that paint scheme. funny how the Voodoo's battery was placed forward and the DM all the way back. Hope to maiden it soon due to the weather in NY and try some one wheel landings.
Thanks Tony! Fun little plane you'll dig it. Yeah the CG is a mystery, lol. I'm thinking maybe the paint being heavy on the tail of Voodoo?
Lovely little Mustang that Adam!! Horizon Hobby and E-flite really are bringing out some great foamies at the moment, great review both 😀👍
They are Ian...on a roll.
Thanks Adam; thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing your experiences 4:17 regarding ‘linear servo lock potential’ and your recommendation to ‘limit’ servo travel to 95%.
Thanks very much! Yep, been doing that since about 2011. I can't remember where I learned it, but it works.
Thanks Adam another good video and mine is still in the box due to weather, its waiting for that maiden I know it will handle good like all the other umx's 😊👍👍👍👍
Thanks Frank! Man you'll enjoy it!
Thanks, another great little plane. A UMX Stuka has to be on the cards, then we may as well have the rest of the WWII warbirds, including the P38 and Mosquito.
Thank you. Man I'd like all of those!
Dang! Heidi really earned her pay (ha! As if!) Filming this little bugger!
Power and agility. Once I'm out of the credit card dog house (3 new planes since New Years...ouch) I'll slide this on my short list for sure.
I don't have ANY P51's!😮 I know- shameful... 😂
Great review! Thanks y'all 👍
She did Al! Lol. Thanks man. Wow three since NY...awesome. He he.
YES, a Spitfire or Mustang must be in every fleet! Ok not really. I just like sayin' that. Lol
That's a really good looking little plane. And I like the field that you're flying at now. looks nice!
It is. Thanks Elijah. I miss the old field, but the new one is great too.
Great review Adam, she sounds orsum, surprised from a small plane. Brilliant background info 🫡
Thanks Chris! Fun pocket Stang!
Always a great presentation & flights that do not disappoint
I have the larger 800mm HK version with gyro & flies so well
. This is a nice little model with the similar price here as the Micro Draco.well done Adam🇺🇸🇦🇺👍
Thank you Noel! Mustangs are awesome...especially if you're in a B-17...
But not in a ME 109
@@Bellairvideo true...
Very good review, Tug's bank said I have spent too much till may at least, LoL Mini Draco, SWS Turbo Timber, X-Fly Twin Otter2m and Repairs have put my hobby dollars out there. I also donate planes and radios to Disabled/PTSD veterans and have had other YT channels donate planes to this cause. Again Adam flies yet another plane Tug wants in his hanger. Good video and great Job Heidi.
Thanks Tug! I know what you mean man, the hangar gets full quick! Heidi's uncle works with dogs that are trained and given to veterans with PTSD. Amazing what a furry friend can do.
Adam great flying and assume video Heidi. It was great seeing you at Perry. Jeff in LA USA
Thanks Jeff, same here buddy!
Great review.. great little plane for sure.. Heidi earned her keep filming this one.. Dang that plane is a little zippy thing....
Thanks Will! Yes sir...she was on.
Looked like an excellent UMX once the gear was removed. When you were flying inverted with the gear, it was too much for me and I had to make use of the chapter marks ;) I threw away the gear from my old PZ 1.1M Trojan many years ago! I loved that last flight you did. Although I don't need a UMX (that Crescendo keeps calling though), I have to admit that E-Flite are really kicking it out of the park with the current selection.
Thanks man! Yep, the Micro and UMX line is awesome right now.
Interesting fact...Bob Hoover did a (slightly) dirty inverted pass with his P-51 in airshows for a while. Gear down but flaps up. He only did it one or two seasons, but he did it.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I didn't know that. In that case, top marks for the scale Bob Hoover 'dirty' inverted pass!
Well to be fair you're still pretty much right as this isn't normally scale with a warbird like that. I think he only did it a short time because it was sketch. Going slow enough not to over speed the gear, but inverted and low doesn't leave much margin at all.
@@ModelAV8RChannel oh, ofc, having to stay below the limit speed. Sod that lol!
Looks so cool but i have troubke seeing my aeroscout in not sure i could see the orientation of that plane idk
It's small and can be quick, but if you throttle back it isn't too bad.
nice review ! seems to handle well...👍👍
Thanks! Fun little pocket stang.
UMX Me 262 in the future..? Hopefully something new!!!
There is always something new and cool coming...
Nice.. Did you have to mechanically change the elevator like the voodoo? I had the voodoo was a pain getting that dialed in.
Watch the set up part of the vid. All the details are there.
Hello there. Im curious if you grab your nose cone or prop does your motor kind of wiggle ? Mine does and not sure if it's supposed to be like that. I wouldn't think so lol. It's not like these are easy to open up and get to the motor either.
Interesting. I mean, if I put some pressure on it, yes. Not much though, and you have to remember it is a plastic mount in a very small piece of foam. There is more potential play in any UMX than say a park flyer where you have mush more foam, and more dense foam. So a tiny bit you're fine, if it moves a lot not so much.
Great review. I was going to fly mine , but noticed that the aileron deflection was not equal when going from left to right. (ie -full aileron right gave a smaller deflection on the left and vice-versa) My other UMX planes had equal aileron differential deflection. Did you notice this? Thanks k
Thanks, I didn't notice anything like that.
Thanks for getting back to me. I spoke to manufactures about the difference aileron throw. They said the differential aileron throw is normal . To stop the plane from stalling on a turn. -great channel and flying !!@@ModelAV8RChannel
Ahh yes. I thought you meant the total deflection one way was more than the other. Mechanical differential is normal with a lot of models. The aileron that goes up will go up farther than the aileron that goes down. This is actually more to coordinate the turn without rudder (as most model pilots don't use rudder much). The plane will still stall in a turn...or even straight and level if you get too slow and reach critical angle of attack. Differential can't prevent that, however it can delay a wing drop in a stall a bit, but the wing will eventually drop in a hard stall.
Wow so eloquently put. So basically the umx mustang is designed that way with differential aileron movement. You certainly know your stuff -thanks for explaining to me…. As a relative rookie in rc flying, i thought the mustang was faulty, when I tested ether ailerons. Cheers @@ModelAV8RChannel
FWIW, the UMX Airtractor has the same aileron setup
Hi Adam - for me and I think for the money the FMS P51D 800mm Big Beautiful Doll gives you more bang per buck, its bigger but still small enough to be an easy transport option... also comes with Reflex (Safe and AS3X) for those who want it, how about doing a side by side comparison that would make a good video.. I might have missed it but did you say anything about the weight, is this another one of those lets go small so we don't need remote ID.... ?
Have you reviewed this one Tanker? Cheers!
Yes, he mentioned the weight, at around 4 ounces, and it is under 250 grams, so no ID requirement, if you’re not flying at a FRIA. Just like the UMX Voodoo, which is also an excellent flyer. I also agree with his comment about Horizon making the planes in this category.
The size difference is much more than you're thinking. The UMX is tiny. It costs more to shrink things up sometimes. I would rather have this than an 800m as I already have many 800mm planes. It flies just as well and is under 250 grams. It's two different animals. I can fly this in much smaller areas with a 2s. lol.
Hi Martyn. The UMX flying weight is 112g (4 oz) so about 1/4 of the 800mm planes. I do not have the FMS P-51 but I do have the Corsair. Every UMX plane I own (10 or so) is more enjoyable than it has been.
@@danflom1271what’s your fave UMX?
Looks cool. The trim colors are wrong for that squadron. They should be blue. Many documentation sources have it wrong too. The red on the canopy is just the German flags. It was never red.
There's actual pictures from the war of that plane...the canopy frame is clearly painted, not just kill markings. According to testimony of actual pilots that served in that squadron...the trim was red. The 352nd fighter group had blue trim.
I would buy this, but I don't have a Spektrum transmitter. They should make it universal
Ford doesn't spend the money to develop things that benefit Chevy. Getting a Spektrum TX will solve your problem. And listen, I get the "proprietary" argument. Horizon/Spektrum makes planes for Spektrum...I get it. Funny how nobody asks why doesn't FrSky/Futaba/Jeti/ etc. make cool planes. Your TX of choice could, but they don't...Horizon does spend the money to develop all that, and I'm okay with them making the money off of it. Just my two cents...
…also went back and watched your voodoo upload and compared your set up ; the expo values are little different on this one, and with the voodoo you had the battery forward …go back and slam that voodoo battery to the rear ! 8^)
Lol, yep! To be fair with these UM's how much paint is on the tail from plane to plane can affect the CG...Voodoo has a lot...
Does the box includes only the plane or the transmitter also comes?
No, just the plane. Spektrum TX required.
Lovely. What’s your fave UMX?
Probably the UMX Pitts.
Is it harder to see than the Voodoo as far as orientation? Trying to decide which to buy.
Depends on the sky. I'd just get the one you like the look of the best.
That's the problem, they both look so cool! Thanks, Adam!@ModelAV8RChannel
Will the DXS spektrum radio work with this plane?
It will.
@@ModelAV8RChannel thanks. Another question. I have the P51 miss helen this plane flys the same right?
@jeffberry754 Very Similar. Good flyer, for sure.
I maiden fly mine today. It climbed a lot. Did you have to adjust anything on yours?
Thanks!
Just trimmed it.
Would you say that it's okay to land it wheels off? On grass? I do that everyday
Oh yeah...did that with it a bunch. Just get it slow and be throttle off when it hits so you don't tweak that prop.
I love this plane and was wondering to either pick up the waco bnf or this p51 umx bnf and I'm looking for someone's opinion pls?
They are both great flyers, but for me personally the Waco all day long. It will fly much slower and can be enjoyed in a smaller area. Very aerobatic, and just really pretty.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks Adam! 👍😎
I wonder why the Voodoo needs the battery all the way foward wit 1/8 oz weight added sugjested by you and this one needs the battery all tyhe way back if it's the same plane with a new paint scheme.
Probably the paint itself. We've seen some differences in CG with UMX planes that are fully painted. At that size, if one plane has more paint to the rear than another it can affect the CG. It can be as simple as how fast one person person on the line moves the spray gun vs another. Whatever the reason, we fly, test, tune, and determine the set up for each plane. If one comes out different than another it is what it is as long as they fly well.
Great answer period. Have you found that the paint on the bottom of the plane is getting scratched up with the belly landings?
@@RCPilot48 After a while it does if you're landing on Geo...which we do because our grass is rough now. On good smooth grass, not so much.
Mine is with the battery all the way back still noseheavy?? Is this bad?
Make sure your elevator is properly centered. It could be it is slightly down at neutral and is making it feel that way.
@@ModelAV8RChannel yes my controlsurfaces are all perfectly mechanically adjust without safe and checked all. Everything is total fine although it is a bit noseheavy with the 3s battery all the way back.. but you say it is not bad and i can go out and fly it tomorrow early morning?? There will not be any trouble or Problems ? Thanks for your help ! Have a nice day. Greetings from Austria/Salzburg
@@DimitriBisas Ahh ok, I thought you were saying it was nose heavy after flying it. Yes it will be fine. Just put the battery in the back and go fly it.
@@ModelAV8RChannel no, Tomorrow is the Maiden flight of her! I checked everything and centered all controlsurfaces! Okay if you say it will be fine if i put the battery all the way back because i was a tiny bit confused of the cg because she is still noseheavy with the battery all the way back.
@@DimitriBisasYeah man the manuals are not always on point with CG.