It's funny how as an audience we want variety, we want innovation, but the reality of a strategy actually overcoming the standard meta often requires it to be pretty oppressive and/or have an unfun play pattern. So I totally get Phreak's conflicted rating of a lot of these XD
He’s not wrong, G2 are (imo) playing League how it should be played. You find creative draft edges that eastern teams are unfamiliar with and you exploit that uncertainty to leverage advantages in game (and for the rest of the series). I’m glad we have fearless to ‘push’ this more onto pro players but do wish that it had happened organically.
It's hard to balance AP bot because the champs are played in other roles. Pick rates are low though, so they do not feel it's urgent to address the issue that AP bots are just stronger.
Phreak got to gm using hidden statistics from the public to choose his champs, and plays tanks and supports. Go figure. And yes, leads of teams do have significant pull on what happens in those teams, idk why everyone acts like that's impossible.
G2 should be S tier, that was an absolute peak League of Legends when it comes to creativity. Phreak said that G2 is the most creative team ever and it's not even close, but the reality is that any G2 roster is not even close to G2019. Every single game they played was a peak creativity combined with peak performance. Well, maybe except last three of the season...
Can you really call Kalista/Varus/Cait support a "thing" when there's only one team that can consistently pull it off? Has anyone besides Keria ever played Kalista at support?
Exactly. If everyone can do it and its bad for the game, sure, nerf it. But if only one player can do it, its them showing a skill gap between them and everyone else, and that should for sure be promoted when we are looking for the best players in the world. Also a reason u cant really blame Chovy for playing Smolder vs flyquest. He is so dang good at that part of the game...
Can you really call Garen/Yuumi a "thing" when there was only one team that consistently pulled it off? Can you call lane Pyke a "thing" when there was only one team that consistently pulled it off? Can you call support MF a "Thing" when there was only one instance where it happened? And yes other people besidesn Kerria played Kalista support :)
The problem with how Riot balances the game is that when you already have a mostly uncreative pro scene, if you immediately nerf newly found strategies instead of letting them refined and be figured out, you‘ll never have an evolution of League of Legends. Pro players time and time again get forced into old patterns and stigmatized ways of playing the game. hate it or love it, I personally find it pretty boring. Just let them cook. You have a new groundbreaking strategy? let it stir for a while. make these lazy pro players come up with a solution to the problem.
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Placing garen and yuumi bot (mainly yuumi) at A tier is saying a lot. Its a strong argument to why balance team cant fix the game. Cause they think its "cool"
Phreak talking out his behind. Man seems to hate almost everything. How does that make rating even fair or accurate. Explains why his balancing and priority decisions are so bad in League patching
"I'm a mage bot enjoyer" lul Is that why the bot is so dog right now? If I'm not mistaken, there has been a lot of controversy with phreak and his position at Riot. Lots of people claiming he bends the rules and updates to the game for his own pleasure and what he's into at the time instead of actually doing what would be healthy for the game.
Well, maokai was broken for a really long time and was nerfed in ways that didnt worked. And at that time, phreak was playing maokai to climb. Same happened with Janna, so...
No, G2 is creative but they are no where near Moscow5. They created a new way to play LoL that was soooo creative and outside the box it forms the bones of how the game is played today. Riot was eye-opened by it that rules changed and evolved rules not to stop it but to harness it. And say what you want but the most creative and innovative player ever in the game was Diamondprox bar none.
WE LOVE YOU PHREAK. Despite what the community says LoL is an all time great game and we’re blessed to have a mind such as yours involved for the last decade plus.
G2 is only considered creative because they are not korean or chinese. Teams in China and korea come up with new strategies and new champions and then everyone around the world copies them.
never seen a better intro to a video ever
LOL 😂
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that made me not to watch it😂
@@niks011 yet you comment
I like g2!
It's funny how as an audience we want variety, we want innovation, but the reality of a strategy actually overcoming the standard meta often requires it to be pretty oppressive and/or have an unfun play pattern. So I totally get Phreak's conflicted rating of a lot of these XD
He’s not wrong, G2 are (imo) playing League how it should be played.
You find creative draft edges that eastern teams are unfamiliar with and you exploit that uncertainty to leverage advantages in game (and for the rest of the series).
I’m glad we have fearless to ‘push’ this more onto pro players but do wish that it had happened organically.
I would have liked to see more, including GSG's all-mid team comp against CJ Entus and UOL's Jungle TF vs TSM at IEM.
Phreak loves AP bot, hated double adc. Explains alot
It's hard to balance AP bot because the champs are played in other roles. Pick rates are low though, so they do not feel it's urgent to address the issue that AP bots are just stronger.
Phreak got to gm using hidden statistics from the public to choose his champs, and plays tanks and supports. Go figure.
And yes, leads of teams do have significant pull on what happens in those teams, idk why everyone acts like that's impossible.
@@Ejune6 yeah the classic pick rate low = no problem
@@kaseyk3282 maokai was broken. For a long while when he was using it to gain Elo. Such a coincidence
GENG Nocturne - Twitch is missing . It was a massacre in the dark.
G2 should be S tier, that was an absolute peak League of Legends when it comes to creativity. Phreak said that G2 is the most creative team ever and it's not even close, but the reality is that any G2 roster is not even close to G2019. Every single game they played was a peak creativity combined with peak performance. Well, maybe except last three of the season...
Can you really call Kalista/Varus/Cait support a "thing" when there's only one team that can consistently pull it off? Has anyone besides Keria ever played Kalista at support?
Exactly. If everyone can do it and its bad for the game, sure, nerf it. But if only one player can do it, its them showing a skill gap between them and everyone else, and that should for sure be promoted when we are looking for the best players in the world.
Also a reason u cant really blame Chovy for playing Smolder vs flyquest. He is so dang good at that part of the game...
Can you really call Garen/Yuumi a "thing" when there was only one team that consistently pulled it off?
Can you call lane Pyke a "thing" when there was only one team that consistently pulled it off?
Can you call support MF a "Thing" when there was only one instance where it happened?
And yes other people besidesn Kerria played Kalista support :)
Where's DoinB's mid Nautilus?
Phreak putting adc support f tier and says he hates it than put mf support (which is an adc) a tier explains a lot about him.
The difference is MF support was a counter pick to an specific meta champion, while ADC support was mostly a cheese strategy
me when im in an bad faith argument competition and my opponent is someone complaining about league of legends balance
I miss having Phreak on broadcast so much :( At least he signed my license plate though :)
The problem with how Riot balances the game is that when you already have a mostly uncreative pro scene, if you immediately nerf newly found strategies instead of letting them refined and be figured out, you‘ll never have an evolution of League of Legends. Pro players time and time again get forced into old patterns and stigmatized ways of playing the game. hate it or love it, I personally find it pretty boring. Just let them cook. You have a new groundbreaking strategy? let it stir for a while. make these lazy pro players come up with a solution to the problem.
I am forevermore to g2 fan 😅😊
Sometimes it sounds like he is speaking in 2x speed lol
When I saw pyke I knew was g2 2019 pyke but i thougt more about wunder secret strat top during msi
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double adc's had its prime, but I'm hoping to see enchanters in the adc role like the sona bot lane meta
Wasn't Mf's passive what made the difference against Zyra plants?
Yup. MF was picked because she could oneshot the plants with her passive, and her Q on the plants would proc the stronger bounce always
Where's the send Heimer and Cait mid push to win strategy?
Placing garen and yuumi bot (mainly yuumi) at A tier is saying a lot.
Its a strong argument to why balance team cant fix the game. Cause they think its "cool"
Also "yeah I hate double ADCs, so it's a Z tier, but I'll place another double ADCs at the top of A tier"
"Mage bot enjoyer"
Say a lot on current APC situation
3:14 Got you. T1 hater(just kidding 😂
Should have put LS Ivern or Soraka mid with either Gwen or Olaf jungle
5:15 that is a lie and everyone knows
Phreak talking out his behind. Man seems to hate almost everything. How does that make rating even fair or accurate.
Explains why his balancing and priority decisions are so bad in League patching
"I'm a mage bot enjoyer" lul Is that why the bot is so dog right now? If I'm not mistaken, there has been a lot of controversy with phreak and his position at Riot. Lots of people claiming he bends the rules and updates to the game for his own pleasure and what he's into at the time instead of actually doing what would be healthy for the game.
Well, maokai was broken for a really long time and was nerfed in ways that didnt worked. And at that time, phreak was playing maokai to climb. Same happened with Janna, so...
How is this guy still employed
Dude needs a toothbrush
I miss commentator Phreak!
ez arcanas perfect prediction
2:30 No counterplay? More like Countered by Pro players can't read
I swear if lane swaps are gonna be on here and he ranks it high I’m throwing hands.
You ruined the game with it, Riot!
clg !!! phreak where ryze ?? blue manm.... thank u mr phreak/!! u are bubu !!!
Riot Phreak on my screen. If I speak, I am in big trouble.
No, G2 is creative but they are no where near Moscow5. They created a new way to play LoL that was soooo creative and outside the box it forms the bones of how the game is played today. Riot was eye-opened by it that rules changed and evolved rules not to stop it but to harness it. And say what you want but the most creative and innovative player ever in the game was Diamondprox bar none.
what the hp omen
WE LOVE YOU PHREAK. Despite what the community says LoL is an all time great game and we’re blessed to have a mind such as yours involved for the last decade plus.
fixing laneswap should be a priority 😭😭
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Bring back zed mid for pro play
Funnel was absolutely S tier.
G2 is only considered creative because they are not korean or chinese. Teams in China and korea come up with new strategies and new champions and then everyone around the world copies them.
garen/yummi isn't healthy for the game.
Ferst
Nah putting 3 things in A tier and saying the one in b tier is better than the highest one in a is crazy xDD who let this guy make a video srsly