Dating for a year and proposing is wild to me. This is the biggest decision you will make in your life and many people just use feelings and hope of the person whom they want thier spouse to be to make that decision. They don't really take time to vet who is to raise thier kids, teach them values.
A year or a decade. There's little you can do. Women change up on you after years of marriage so there's only some much you can do. You know what's wild to me? You think that time buys you something. It doesn't. You can vet all you want but hypergamy can take what you thought you knew and turn it upside down. The only way to win is not to play.
@@matthewgaines10 -- 1 year may work. 2 years is better. 5-10 years is not necessary. The most important thing is to investigate her past thoroughly and subject to her to various tests. If she has bad relationships with her family, past lovers, find them out. Did she cheat before? What is her body count? Does she have 304 friends? Are her family wholesome and does she get along well with them? Is she a responsible adult? Does she have emotional balance? Is she materialistic? Is she respectful, compliant, and attracted to you? Does she keep contact with any ex or male friends? Does she accept and respect the boundaries you set?
It was at college when I met my future ex and I thought after 3 years I knew who she was and married her. Looking back I can see I DID know her, but didn't have the 'vision' of what it all meant. We didn't have these video's or relationship advice for men - there was plenty for women! - when I was dating; we had to figure it out ourselves. Looking back I can see all the red flags I missed...
This is the same story for millions of men including you and me. We were blue pilled. Red pill info was not available. I made all the "nice guy" mistakes and my marriage went down the toilet. Now I know so much more about female nature. But it might be too late for me restart as I am 59 now. If I get into relationships game again, I am well equipped to handle it right.
OP allowing a meeting with her was stupid. Good God he deserves what happen ... When you leave a cheating ex you do not meet up with them again. What a jack ass ...
Meeting makes sense only if you are open to giving her a second chance. Otherwise ghost her completely (block her everywhere) and have a restraining order. Never say a word to her again once you have a proof of cheating. It is hard to to do for most men because they want to ask: "Why did you do that to me? I loved you so much and we had it so special. Where did I fall short? etc etc". But it is meaningless and futile to ask those questions.
Some observations: Kudos to OP for being strong (that's why she is attracted to him). He made the absolute right decision by leaving her and not taking her back. But he made several mistakes: 1) Believing her BS that it was just a one-time kiss in the mall. 99.99% chance she was sleeping with her ex the whole time. She told herself that until they are married it is not cheating. Of course, once they were married, she would have continued cheating and told herself a different justification. 2) He had s3x with her after breaking up with her. That was a foolish act. 3) He should have investigated to get clear evidence of her ongoing cheating with her. This is to expose her further. 4) He did not control the narrative with his family and her family. He should have told them clearly the full details.
Either she was in contact with your parents and got the information from them about your trip or she had some type of access to your email or cell phone.
Your woman's loyalty is always meant to be absolute no matter the situation. Although love can be messy, cheating should never be what makes it messy, there's no going back from cheating.
O p's probably the first man ever tell her no, The prettiest ones are the ones that are the most vicijust and a lat personality or any substance cause they coast off their looks. I'd like to see this woman once the wall hits.
I’m far from an expert but it seems when the woman is in the wrong and caught, and the relationship doesn’t end on her terms, she goes crazy trying to get the guy back when he abruptly ends it.
You were not doing the right thing. Your woulda, coulda, shoulda was all a lie. Everything she told you was a lie and you fell for it. Stop thinking and saying "everything was perfect until...". IT was NEVER PERFECT! Maintain your frame instead of the dame.
If you really are meant to be a motivational speaker, you'll be able to motivate yourself into marriage, as it's the basic proof of maturity, telling you don't believe in it is childish.
That is corny and ill informed. Marriage is only proof of your ability to convince someone to marry you. Immature people marry all the time. Marriage isn't proof of anything else. It's childish to think getting married is proof of maturity.
“ you should probably never sleep with a ex gf or women who is cheated on you” no shit my guy
Dating for a year and proposing is wild to me. This is the biggest decision you will make in your life and many people just use feelings and hope of the person whom they want thier spouse to be to make that decision. They don't really take time to vet who is to raise thier kids, teach them values.
A year or a decade. There's little you can do. Women change up on you after years of marriage so there's only some much you can do. You know what's wild to me? You think that time buys you something. It doesn't. You can vet all you want but hypergamy can take what you thought you knew and turn it upside down. The only way to win is not to play.
@@matthewgaines10 -- 1 year may work. 2 years is better. 5-10 years is not necessary. The most important thing is to investigate her past thoroughly and subject to her to various tests. If she has bad relationships with her family, past lovers, find them out. Did she cheat before? What is her body count? Does she have 304 friends? Are her family wholesome and does she get along well with them? Is she a responsible adult? Does she have emotional balance? Is she materialistic? Is she respectful, compliant, and attracted to you? Does she keep contact with any ex or male friends? Does she accept and respect the boundaries you set?
If the AP jumps up and wants to fight you and your in the right you have no choice but to defend yourself!!!
He is the man.... He dodged the bazooka..😂😂😂
I think it's safe to say you aren't going to meet the mother of your children and the everlasting love of your life at a random bar.
It was at college when I met my future ex and I thought after 3 years I knew who she was and married her. Looking back I can see I DID know her, but didn't have the 'vision' of what it all meant. We didn't have these video's or relationship advice for men - there was plenty for women! - when I was dating; we had to figure it out ourselves. Looking back I can see all the red flags I missed...
This is the same story for millions of men including you and me. We were blue pilled. Red pill info was not available. I made all the "nice guy" mistakes and my marriage went down the toilet. Now I know so much more about female nature. But it might be too late for me restart as I am 59 now. If I get into relationships game again, I am well equipped to handle it right.
OP allowing a meeting with her was stupid. Good God he deserves what happen ... When you leave a cheating ex you do not meet up with them again. What a jack ass ...
Meeting makes sense only if you are open to giving her a second chance. Otherwise ghost her completely (block her everywhere) and have a restraining order. Never say a word to her again once you have a proof of cheating. It is hard to to do for most men because they want to ask: "Why did you do that to me? I loved you so much and we had it so special. Where did I fall short? etc etc". But it is meaningless and futile to ask those questions.
your parents are against you,, they are not your parents.
A woman who can get 'caught up in the moment' is not a woman to marry.
Pulled your phone out and start recording, then show the whole family. The video 🎉
This is why you must take your time to propose. You need to date the woman for years, observing her paterns...
I thought he said they dated 4 yrs first
Some observations:
Kudos to OP for being strong (that's why she is attracted to him). He made the absolute right decision by leaving her and not taking her back.
But he made several mistakes:
1) Believing her BS that it was just a one-time kiss in the mall. 99.99% chance she was sleeping with her ex the whole time. She told herself that until they are married it is not cheating. Of course, once they were married, she would have continued cheating and told herself a different justification.
2) He had s3x with her after breaking up with her. That was a foolish act.
3) He should have investigated to get clear evidence of her ongoing cheating with her. This is to expose her further.
4) He did not control the narrative with his family and her family. He should have told them clearly the full details.
She don't want her pay piggy to leave
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Either she was in contact with your parents and got the information from them about your trip or she had some type of access to your email or cell phone.
Your woman's loyalty is always meant to be absolute no matter the situation.
Although love can be messy, cheating should never be what makes it messy, there's no going back from cheating.
Every time I hear the name Candace, all I can think of is The Whitest Kids You Know
The garden tool was probably sleeping with the ex the whole time you were together
O p's probably the first man ever tell her no, The prettiest ones are the ones that are the most vicijust and a lat personality or any substance cause they coast off their looks.
I'd like to see this woman once the wall hits.
I’m far from an expert but it seems when the woman is in the wrong and caught, and the relationship doesn’t end on her terms, she goes crazy trying to get the guy back when he abruptly ends it.
Best warn other women.
She loves you alright. You know she was sleeping with him. Buddy. Dump her. Throw her out. She’s trash. Stay single men!!!
You were not doing the right thing. Your woulda, coulda, shoulda was all a lie. Everything she told you was a lie and you fell for it. Stop thinking and saying "everything was perfect until...". IT was NEVER PERFECT!
Maintain your frame instead of the dame.
😮
If you really are meant to be a motivational speaker, you'll be able to motivate yourself into marriage, as it's the basic proof of maturity, telling you don't believe in it is childish.
That is corny and ill informed. Marriage is only proof of your ability to convince someone to marry you. Immature people marry all the time. Marriage isn't proof of anything else. It's childish to think getting married is proof of maturity.
Can you blame him? They're not yet married and she was cheating already. How much more down the road when they're already married.
@@user-lm9zl9xu8p He chose her, if he didn't know her true character that's his fault.