The Mac Apple Wants You To Forget About!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- The hackintosh scene has ramped up in the last few years but what you may not know is that Apple licensed out macOS to PC makers to create Macintosh clones...
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So, you're working on your new Hackintosh build looking for help on how to install macOS on a PC by using Clover EFI and various other tools. Companies like Psystar that sold commercial Hackintosh computers got sued out of existence, but did you know that prior to Steve Jobs' return to Apple in the 90s, Apple actually licensed out macOS to PC vendors? Pretty wild! They did so because Windows vs Mac was becoming a hot debate and Windows was catching up very quick. This video covers all that Apple history and more! 
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Terrific story man, never heard of this one...
Thanks so much, Austin! 🙏
Whoa, Austin! 😱
Edit: I’m pretty sure I mixed Performas with LCs, because “LC” stood for “Learning (Center?),” or some other “C-word.”
(Please, fellow folks, be mindful that Austin is hanging, on this thread (but not in _that_ way), and try to hold back from elucidating, with any inappropriate “C-word” abbreviation clarifications... )
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H E Y G U Y S !
"...which made system upgrades a piece of cake"
*Tim Cook has left the chat*
i touch you
Uuuh Tim Cook wasn't too high in the company at that point in time (should he have been working there at all).
@@ShiggitayMediaProductions I'm referring to the state of Apple right now under Tim Cook
Tim Cooks response "But the new Mac Pro is upgradable, just cost $8000 and we'll only release updates every 6 years forcing you to upgrade yourself".
@@dr.wernerbrandes2991 Steve Jobs' Apple > Tim Cook's Apple
Well I just found my new ringtone
Your poor phone...
The Trammell Oh boy
Waiting for a bootloop...
ok
The Trammell I wonder if Arnie had this playing in the helicopterplane thing at the end of The 7th Day as he boated off the South American
That was the most convenient thing to have in order to get you to 10 mins, lol. Bravo.
Yeah, I owned one of these. Bought one of their Tower Floor Standing Units. It rivaled the PowerMac 9600.
My community college-owned several of those, I remember our computer club disassembling one after hours heehee
I also had a Power Computing tower. It was a good machine for the time.
Where did you buy it? I had the second Mac and had to use it for the next 10 years until it died.
@@Flojoe6274 I got mine by mail order through Mac Warehouse.
Power Computing as a stand alone unit were ok but trying get them to work with other macs or Mac accessories such as high end scanners were a bastard due to their non Mac interface architecture, we had 2 in our studio but after struggling with them for 18 months we binned them to buy Mac quadras
Then: People: 8 Megabytes of ram is okay
Now: People: 8 Gigabytes of ram is okay
Future: People: 8 Terabytes of ram is okay
Your comment is the dumper than any other dump comment
The far future "640 terabytes of RAM should be enough for anyone."
Ultra mega future: 8 petabyte is enough for everyone
my first home computer was a ZX81 with 1 KB RAM (1981) :-) oh sh*t - getting old :-(
@. you may need more RAM
back in tha day, we used to refer to this period as the Clone Wars.
Remember when Sears sold a licensed Apple //c clone?
NO. I just remember sears licening Winnin the pooh for kids clothes. That was my wardrobe growing up
I had the Sears version of the Intellivision
Actually, Steve Jobs almost licensed Mac OS to Sony's VAIO laptops.
He was so impressed by the hardware quality of VAIO.
Great video man!
I think the real reason behind that would be to promote the new OS as "Sony recommended" as back in the day people used to actually prefer their stuff being high quality and pretty and not trendy. So having Mac OS 8, a piece of garbage software at the time made by a small failing company, endorsed by the greatest in the tech industry (or any Japanese/ European company for that matter) would lift Apple out of obscurity and make an american company trustworthy for pretty much the first time in the EU and Japan. However at the time Windows 95 was way ahead of Mac OS 8 in performance, stability and user friendliness, a situation that wouldn't reverse until Mac OS X Panther/ Windows XP. On a sidenote, why wouldn't he be impressed? My first proper computer was the 2005 VAIO S13. Believe it or not, my father still uses it to this day in his office (he is a doctor). Now try that with the equivalent Powerbook G4 12" which by the way is considerably thicker and heavier!
Wow, no kidding! Thought you were joking because Sony VAIOs seem to be pretty shit these days.
@@Ben.N Sony still make VAIOs? I tought they selled the license years ago.
@@Juanknes VAIO is an independent company now, Sony got rid of it a few years back.
I'm not surprised, now that I consider how exceptional Sony's hardware was back then. Those old Vaios were both solid and sleek: trademark characteristics of Apple's laptops in the years following Jobs' return to Apple. It feels kind of good to know that there were other manufacturers who cared as much as Apple had about quality hardware.
Your video reminded me of the Pirates of the Silicon Valley movie - I need to watch it again now
Best Jobs movie there is.
Love how you summarised the history of early Bill Gates and Steve Jobs partnership.
"partnership"
3:52 damn Jobs looks fukking happy to have MS on his side 😂
Wow this is interesting
Pystar is even weirder....
My first “Mac” was a Motorola Starmax 5500 rocking a 200Mhz PowerPC 604e. I had a blast playing Unreal with a hacked Diamond Monster 3D.
wow i did not know this thanks for the history lesson. :)
"My 3rd birthday in 1996" - oh God, I'm old.
"My 21st birthday in 1996" - oh God, I´m dead!
My first.. yup.. I feel old
@@classicalisious6256 Hahahahah
Yeah but on the other side: Quinn is 27? I assumed he was in his 30s
lol ikr that was so unexpected... he really doesn't look like 26
I was a Product Lead for Power Computing during 1995-1999l I loved that company. Though I would not call myself a Mac Guy, since during my tech years I was a window , unix, and Mac admin.... I had so much fun during my time. :-) (1998 - 1999 we maintained our Power Computing brand while Apple devoured our little company. )
Apple didn't sell the clones... rather, Apple licensed MacOS to clone manufacturers like PowerComputing and Motorola to use on their own computers. Though Apple did have the "Tanzania" motherboards that some clone manufacturers used.
I love MacOS, but I'd never buy from Apple, they're seriously overpriced. I made an iMac19,1 clone using a Ryzen 2700x, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 590 SE, Corsair 3200MHz ram -- all in all I probably spent about 800 bucks total on my system. If I wanted to buy from Apple, I'd have to spend 3,399$ to get similar specs. That's insane.
iMac clone? How did you get a screen of that quality for next to nothing?
I still have my Power Computing PowerTower Pro 225 stored away somewhere! It was a great machine.
Those old Power Computing advertisements are still so sick. 'LETS KICK INTEL'S ASS!'
@@charlessale409
I was still at school, science levels, we did need to projects on all new systems
Apple, IBM and Motorola did PowerPC, HP Oracle and intel did itanium alliance.
AMD64 is that itanium project now, they legally changed it's name, forced?
IBM POWER10, on NVlink support!
Espresso, PowerPC Nintendo Wii chip, replaced by Tegra now.
Kick intel, ARM! ARM did what it needed to do, old Acorn designs, Archimedes! RISC is the low power they needed for mobile internet apps!
@@lucasrem itanium pretty dead now.. that real 64 proc compare to these day x86x64. Itanium in my last time very annoyance because the last os official is red hat.
If you haven't done it already, you should do a video about BeOS. The PPC based operating system that almost became OS X.
Great suggestion! Thanks.
I second that. BeOS was so good. Ran it on my StarMax
One interesting detail: Steve Jobs never actually "killed" the licensing program for the Mac clones. The licensing agreement was for the clones to run "Macintosh System 7". So within about a month of Steve Jobs returning to Apple, the operating system update that was slated for mid-1997 and originally going to be called "7.7" was renamed "Mac OS 8", and that was the effective end of the licensing agreement.
Also I believe Power Computing was one of a very few (if not the only) manufacturer to sell computers that would run BeOS (dual-boot configurations). At that time (1996-97) BeOS looked like a vision of the future compared to the then antiquated Macintosh System 7.X.
I believe your shirt was from Macworld 1997 (pretty sure Power Computing wasn't in business yet in early 1995, they appeared later that year). Macworld 1997 was Power Computing's last real hurrah, they had a bigger presence than Apple that year, and were running a "military" style campaign featuring shirts like yours, camo pants, and staffers driving around the streets of San Francisco in logo-ed Hummers. Very soon after that came the news about "Mac OS 8" and the story of Power Computing and "Mac Clones" came to a speedy conclusion.
The greedy clone makers took advantage of Apple and in doing so, ended their entire business. If they'd produced lower end macs, they might have grown the market as intended and survived. But they went for the high end, taking up the limited supplied of PPC chips and cutting directly into Apple's most valuable sales.
They used the cheapest components available while also getting the fastest PPCs to market before Apple; the results were predictable.
@@kirishima638 Power Computing and the other "Mac Clone" manufacturers were selling a variety of systems, not just high end. But in this era Apple's development process was slowing down, and these smaller companies lacking Apple's management issues were able to get new machines to market much faster. There was a great deal of frustration with how long Apple was taking getting new 604-based machines to market, so a lot of "power users" were easily tempted by Power Computing offering that hardware for sale.
Apple itself was doing some really "cheap" crap with the "consumer"/"education" focused machines in this era...some of the all-in-one "Performa" machines were technological horror shows. 32 bit CPU's hobbled by slower internal 16-bit busses was a common mid-90's scenario, for just one example.
At any rate, I can't see any reason that Mac clone manufacturers producing exclusively "lower end Macs" would have had any effect at all on Steve Jobs' decision.
@@SFDJMark Oh I'm well aware of the garbage Apple was putting out. Pretty much anything with a 4xxx, 5xxx or 6xxx model number was underpowered or crippled in some way. No dispute there. Absolute shit.
Apple basically had three CPU architectures back then; the decent but old 601, the low/power 603 which Apple used without a cache and on mbos designed for the 68040, and the top end 604.
The whole industry was obsessed with Mhz and the only chips that could be run at faster rates were the 603 and 604. That said, the cloners could have made better 601 and 603 based machines instead of syphoning off the limited supply of 604s. They could have been competitive without cutting directly into Apple's lifeblood.
If it wasn't for the System 7 clause in the contract, the cloners would have killed the entire platform.
Nobody:
Guy at 9:44: “the heat from Pentium warms a mid sized town”
A G5 warms a mid sized country
Alexandre Couture And an (Intel) i5 warms a mid sized planet
Had one of these Power Computing Mac clones back in 1997 at my first internship and though it worked fairly well it felt like I was cheating on my Power Mac 6500/225.
The Power PC was a collaboration between Apple, IBM, and Motorola. From that relationship, Motorola had its own clone called the StarMax. I had a Motorola StarMax 4000 from either 1996 or 97.
Gawd you’re young! In 1996, I graduated high school! 🤣
But I watched this era unfold in the pages of MacUser (yeah!) and MacWorld, as I used my Performa 400 to “go online” with a 14.4k modem. Good times, good times. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
3:14 Every single person should watch this movie.
"Pirates Of Silicon Valley"
People always talking about the modern movies, but this is the real deal. To bad it never got an HD release.
Definitely a dry movie but it’s definitely a good one also.
One of the most accurate portrayals of the 2 tech companies, for a dramatized movie. But it's still fiction. All of these people were colleagues in an industry that really didn't exist yet. Gates and Jobs just happened to stick to this industry the longest.
@@riopato2009 Woz endorsed the film. The Director and writer of the film stated that Woz flew out to the filming and made several points about it of how accurate the film was to what happened.
I remember this time. I actually owned a few pre-PowerPC and early PowerPC Apples. Prior to Power Computer being picked up by Apple, I was eyeing if memory serves me an 8-CPU mini-tower they offered. I think at the time, I owned a PowerPC 7100, 7200, and 7600. A lot of people don't know about Gates interest in Apple during that time.
Wait till apple ditches intel
I'm scared
Not worried. I have VirtualBox. 😉
@@StevePringle that won't save you if they decide to move to ARM CPUs
I think they're too chicken shit
@@JoeyLindsay Again not worried Anthony from Linus tech tips will find way
The 1st Mac was a low cost machine for the masses and the hardware was decidedly mid-low end; it was the GUI OS paradigm that was supposed to be revolutionary. A mid-low end personal computer with a revolutionary OS at under $ 800 sounds great right? Except that Apple execs bafflingly set the price at $ 2500. I will give the Mac team credit for getting there first with a user friendly mouse driven OS but I kinda relate to ppl not getting excited by the concept of a low cost computer with 128kb ram as a "business machine" worth over 2k
Apple history is as complicated , elaborated , and interesting as MAHABHARAT
I really liked my Motorola Starmax MAC clone. System 7 was a great OS
I actually own a few Starmaxs! They're really nice machines
Alan Webster
Did you do one of the original apple boards machines, the software eject drives too. That was no clone, just the same thing, on Bios support, PS/2 connectors, great machines!
Everyone needed Windows 95 systems back then, apple run by Pepsi suga water John Sculley! Change was needed!
Windows now, muahahaha....
Mac, not MAC.
I remember them... the 2 other innovations that Power Computing made... PCI slots verse Apple's NuBus slots and MacOS compiled for Intel CPUs; that's where Apple got that technology and got away from Motorola chips.
Hey Snazzy, do one on my favorite Mac clone - Umax and their SuperMac line, which was my first Mac around 1097 😜
Apple lost the lawsuit, because Microsoft had not broken their contract, but have bought a small company which have invented Windows. It was a then called "Gem Dos" operating system and run on one of the many 8 bit machines (Schneider) at the time. Gem Dos was capable of multitasking already and had exactly the same features of Windows 1.0 ... which had all but multitasking, though. That came "back" with the 80286 processor and was briefly dropped with the 80386 and some subversion of Windows 2.0.
This reminds me of when Apple (Jobs in particular) were looking to reach a deal with Sony to have Vaio laptops running Mac OS X.
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John Sculley you meant, the Pepsi suga water CEO, he kicked Jobs out, uncontrollable....
Sony needed a long time agreement, before they are willing to invest , not getting any processes, so they never invested in developing any Vaio Mac OS gear. This was before the Next deals with Jobs!
I was at Commodore Escom back then, we were trying to get some deals too, same results....Never any Commodore products on Mac OS....
I remember the power computing company, I thought there were more Apple clone manufacturers though.
same i recall seeing more variety of uglier cases too lol
There were 2 or 3 from what I remember.
There were 6 domestically and more internationally.
Snazzy Labs Thanks for the look back in time. Tim Apple is worse than Spindler as a CEO
@@thepixelpusher Tim is the CEO, fiances..
That was not a thing Jobs was understanding....
How can Tim give the designers the needed freedom they need, outplace them, hire them in as independent consultants?
How to attract new people when you have nothing to offer? Hire the best people in for the job, let them be outsiders? G5 now, that 2020 iPhone is the only new thing they need to do good again, that's were they make the money now. iMac pro models...Creativity, how to invest in creativity?
i'm happy on some old Mac and PC, Xr more then enough, DSLR user here, maya 3D creative only, great cheap motion capture API, Final Cut pro, we love it!
I remember some clone Mac back then. Wanted one but of corse couldn’t afford it. Good story. Remember loving first Mac classic back in days and remember buying magazines to read about Mac and Mac clones.
Do wish Apple would go back clones Mac’s. But we know that never happen and hell would freeze over before that ever happens. Lol, good video. :)
I own a UMAX SuperMac s900 that I plan on filming once I fix the SCSI HDD setup in it... interesting machine, looks and feels like a late 90s Dell Dimension on the outside and a Power Macintosh 8600/9600 on the inside
Steve Jobs was not forced out of apple he chose to leave because he was hurt that the board picked Jhon Scully over him as the new CEO.
Thanks again for a great video! I’ve learnt something new today, I never knew that history about Apple. Hope your keeping well Quinn!
Apple stole from Xerox and Microsoft stole from Apple. Watch Pirates of Silicon Valley.
i have a Motorola Starmax clone sitting on my desk as i watch this video! i actually use it regularly, alongside several other (official) powermacs i own.
Excellent recap. Only one thing, I believe Microsquish was sued after they introduced overlapping windows in 3.0. The fixed windows in v1 were fine. But Scully had negotiated away the windowing Mac IP and so Apple lost the court challenge. Scully later regretted doing it. Duh?
Nice save. Thanks for the correction! Sculley was a... interesting guy lol
Snazzy Labs No worries, if you ever want to pass these history bits by me it would be my pleasure. 😉
dude, how tall are you? Marques said you're taller than him 🤣
see him stood next to hey guys this is austin
He says in a tweet that he’s 6’4
That internal "I think we're a clone now" is certainly a BOPPP!!
I had a Motorola StarMax, dont remember which one. It was the first "mac" that I bought.
0:08 Is he wearing an apple watch series -32 ????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
So for a while, Apple became nice and then suddenly used their “OS” tactic to get all to buy their products instead?
"nice"? they were losing money hand over fist, they wouldn't EXIST if they stayed "nice". Grow up, stop equating business decisions with emotions, no corporation cares about you. Not one.
At least they are one of the greenest tech companies
@@springbok4015 greediest
@@springbok4015 Are you sure about that?
What about complete motherboard replacement in case of any kind of malfunction with a Mac?
How is that green?
Jeremy Clarkson ez green as in money
Power computing were great and price was lower, we had them running for years
I was in highschool when the mac clones were available
"was released on my third birthday, Apr 1996". Holly crap, you were born on the same month and year as me hahaha
I used the tower version of these in my first year of graphic design classes in college. I preferred these to the faster G3 Macs in the other lab across campus because of Apple's awful hockey puck mouse.
Sticking around for the credits--worth it. Just like watching a Marvel Universe movie.
Hahaha
Wow, that’s a blast from the past! I started my official freelance career and a power computing tower and had kind of forgotten about them! It was a quite good machine at the time and definitely allowed me to get into the design world, though I quickly transitioned back to a real Mac and have been there ever since. Thanks for sharing that bit of apple history!
I did have a Power Computing clone that I used in 1996/1997 for professional graphic design work. It was a great experience.
I still have a sticker.
you need to find a daystar genesis, by far the most powerful of the clones.
I remember those well with the Quad 200MHz 604e processors. Even better when it was running BeOS.
Yup, I knew about Power Computing. Did you know about PsyStar or Que? I don't know if I spelled their names correctly but they were licensing Mac OS as well for a while and sold hackintosh PCs. Now, it is for us that wish to tinker on our own machine. Truthfully though, I prefer an actual Mac PC. They are better and very well engineered. Yes, go ahead and start with the latest MacBook Pro rants. I know but most of their hardware is very well made and beautiful.
Thank you, Quinn.
By the title I thought it was about the PowerCube G4
I was for sure around during the clone wars. One of my closest friends bought the last generation tower and at the time it kicked the ass of Apple's competitor the 8100. Once Apple stopped the clone program, they released a bunch of kick ass computers, stuff that blew the doors off the clones. My friend was forced to sell his power computing machine because it wouldn't run System 9. So we all got 8600 towers and the rest was history. Apple stuck with that tower design for the G3 and eventually G5 and so on. I think Power Computing really forced Apple to go the more "professional" route with their computers.
Apple's ARM processor future will officially end CISC compatibility eventually, so very soon we'll have to give up our Hackintoshes. However, until then, getting mac OS to work on intel hardware isn't that difficult and Apple doesn't seem to be too upset about it. I just wish there was a "legal" route, even if it was expensive, but I know they're concerned about supporting a bunch if random build PC's, I get it.
I had a Power Computing tower. I don’t remember the model. It was was my home office machine and I was very happy with it. I also had several Macs I used for audio and video production work.
When I was in college I had a Macintosh Emulator card for the Amiga computer called Emplant. Later on, ShapeShifter (software only Mac emulator) was released and that was a game-changer.
whats that mac clone song?
Snazzy: "The Mac Apple Wants You To Forget About!
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Apple: Every one you can't buy at the Apple Store.
LOL did he make a joke about heat up Pentium CPUs? LOL the Pentium and Pentium PRO are not hot cpu's :D We have late Pentium 4's for that and current Xeon line up with 205 watt :D
hi, when is the video for an amd/ryzen hackintosh Pro coming?
yeah, a lot of his videos are based on intel, give amd some love
@ViciousDave4Life but he did tons of hackintosh and even compare them to apple's
AMD hackingtoshes require a LOT of extra work, if it's possible at all.
It's just not worth it.
ViciousDave4Life Illegal? Technically. Violates EULA, but what actual crime is being committed? Fraud? Piracy? MacOS is free on most Macs (paid updates not-withstanding). If you own a license to MacOS on a legit Mac, but want better hardware or virtualized environments for safety/multitasking ease, why can’t you run it in that manner? It’s only a violation of the EULA, the punishment of which is.... you don’t get to use the software? That’s not really a crime in a court.
If you have a legal precedence for that though, I want to see it.
ViciousDave4Life lmao like Apple cares
I wonder if the Power Computing employees called owner Steve Kong, King Kong?
I'm sure they would have to
Yes I had one. It was expensive, but 850 $ less that Apple. My introduction to the Mac has an graphic artist !
Wait, what about my Starmax 5500? Love the 604e.
Oh wow... I'd completely forgotten about PowerComputing. I had one of them. It was my third home PC. Lasted about a month before it overheated and went pop.
wait snazzy is only 26? i thought he was linus's age.
Apple without Jobs is a shitshow
"Home Consumers couldn't reconcile with the hefty $2,500 price" and now they can
Because that's more than double in today's money.
Thanks for the super informative video, Quinn!
Pretty much owned every Apple from apple 2 up and most versions and model of every clone. Took apart repaired all of them at one time or another! lol can you say DI !!
Yeah from Utah to
I had a few systems from Power Computing. There were a great alternative from paying a premium for Macs.
Thanks for showing us that internal video at the end, it was hilarious! (9:26)
Stop stop stop. No. The Apple 2 didn't "dominate" the 8-bit computer market. The C64 did. 22 million sales. Was used well into the 1990s. Now let's keep going and see what else is going on in this video.
OK, "The first PC capable of displaying color", nope. Color graphics output was available for computers before then. See the Cromemco Dazzler, released in 1976...
"The first with easy user expansion,"
Again, no. The Imsai 8080 and the Altair both featured easy access (as easy as the Apple II) internal bus slots, S100 standard.
The GUI and the Mouse were both conceptualized and created by Doug Engelbart at Xerox PARC in 1968 (see the "Mother of All Demos", you can find it whole or in part here on youtube). Xerox's Alto and Star computers were released commercially (well, the Alto was more semi-commercial) prior to Apple deciding to use the already established tech in their own products. You even miss the Apple Lisa. Wow. Okay, to continue on...
Microsoft's early revenue came from licensing BASIC to lots and lots of companies. There's plenty of 8-bit machines you can turn on and get the "Microsoft BASIC" logo at start-up. At the very least it's acknowledged in product documentation. Apple wasn't their only bread and butter.
Macworld 95?!? That looks like a 2010s meme image macro! XD :O
I remember the time when we had a Mac clones shop in my city.
Didn’t last, but it was exciting times.
I just purchased a 2009 Mac Pro. Upgraded to dual 3.33, SSD card on the motherboard to boot from. A sapphire GPU, 2 T hard drive, 48 gig ram and if I purchased it online from Apple, I would have spent $7000. My total cost was $700. I love Mac but not the high cost.
We had the Power Computing machines in college, to run photoshop and premiere
this is miles better than any history lecture i’ve ever listened to.
"greatest pc of all time" and it's an apple not a pc...
sure, it's a personal computer, but "pc" doesn't mean just "any personal computer", it means the family of computers created by IBM in 1980 that uses intel x86 cpu and a specific architecture for motherboard, bios, slots, ports and everything else.
it's confusing because the name of the thing is also the generic term for the category of the thing, and the thing itself became the default standard and what everybody thinks about when saying "computer". it's more or less like calling al consoles "a nintendo".
amiga is a personal computer but it's not a pc, mac is a personal computer but it's not a pc, atari st is a personal computer but it's not a pc, spectrum is a personal computer but it's not a pc... and so on. I hope I'm clear.
We had a power computing desktop at the video production company I worked for at the time and honestly had nothing but trouble with it.
The case also was so badly built it was a total pain in the butt to open it adding/swapping drives etc. Screws were hard to reach, you’d cut your hands on sharp edges, the list goes on. Good riddance to those Macs. The PowerMac 7600 was just as expandable and later the blue & white G3s were a dream to work with.
I was working at Apple during this time and Power was made up mainly of ex-Apple employees. To be honest, we were a close group that worked closely together (Apple and Power).
Those were exciting times, as fear of Apple going under were present. I had purchased a UMAX SuperMac clone back in 1996, I believe. They were short lived though, and I soon upgraded to a Power Macintosh 8600 before heading off to college!
...While the PowerComputing (and around the same time UMAX) machines did technically run Mac System 7.x I wouldn't personally consider these machines "hackintoshes" and Apple didn't technically sell them... They only licensed the OS to run on hardware that wasn't their own. The definition of Hackintosh is building your own computer with parts you choose etc and then you'd install macOS onto it. That's the model nowadays anyway.. Back then computer building from scratch was super niche, and I doubt you could get the hardware PowerComputing/UMAX had at the time... So at best these were "half-hackintoshes", since technically you still had to buy a prebuilt "Mac". I hope I'm making sense here. I grew up when all of this was going down so I have a slight bit of personal connection/recollection/value for it all.
The Apple II might have dominated to 8-bit computer market in the US, but in Europe, and I think rest of the world, it did no such thing.
I didn't know a single person in the 80s that had an Apple II, don't even think I saw one, in neither a private home or in a business. In Europe the C64 was dominating households, but also Spectrums, Amstrads, Dragons etc was common. The Apple II was produced in way less numbers that the C64 was.
In businesses the IBM PC or clones was widely on top, while I did see, and even used, some Apple Macintosh Plus. Heck, I've even seen more NeXT Cube's than Apple II's. :)
Apple did actually "sell" a Hackintosh.
It was called the Apple Developer Transition Kit, and it was a bog-standard Pentium 4 machine inside a PowerMac G5 case.
It was made, as its name implies, to help developers transition to Intel CPUs. Core CPUs weren't yet available for the general public at the time, so a Pentium 4 was the next best thing they could put in it.
The machines were supposed to be shipped back to Apple in 2006, but some are still floating around.
Hey I have a Umax J700 with a G4 upgrade card!!!!!! Still trying to find 1GB of RAM for it (8x128 MB) so I can run Leopard on it
Specing out a Mac Clone was all the rage amongst us "Desktop Publishers" at the time. Tiger Direct, MacMall catalogs were highly earmarked. But the hardware changed so fast, you couldn't keep up unless you had a corporate buying account. Finally getting that PowerPC accelerated chip and 16mb of RAM was going to keep us "set" for awhile. At least we thought at the time.
I got one of these in 1996 when i was in college for Graphic Design. It was awesome. Upgraded it a few years later to a 450 G3 with a newer tech processor upgrade.
This was one of hundreds of Macintosh clones available that actually decreased Apple’s marketshare in the 90s.
Back when I had the choice of clones, I bought my designer an affordable UMax because it beat Apple on Price. Meanwhile the Power Computing clones were beating Apple on build quality. It was wise of Apple to revoke those licenses and get back on course! The year Microsoft committed to keep Office going on the Mac was also the year Jobs retook the helm, and everyone knew it would be a turning-point. To keep their computer line thriving today Apple needs to keep refining their design aesthetic and stay a step ahead of the Hackintoshes at the magic price-point. After all, Apple has the best Unix desktop in the world, and when paired with their hardware the user experience is second-to-none. It's a testament to their engineers that people still accept a Hardware/OS bundle even on the cusp of 2020.
Never been a Mac or Apple person but I - briefly - owned a PowerMac because my girlfriend at the time was an artist and she absolutely wanted a Mac.
When we broke up and she moved out she REFUSED to take the PowerMac with her so she probably liked it a lot :)) And I had no use for it.
Memories are a bit vague but I believe that, somehow, I was able to sell it to some PowerMac buyers outfit who, to my surprise and delight, actually paid me good money for something that I viewed as worthless.
I did hear about the Macintosh Clone program. And as if that wasn't weird enough, the first Intel Mac was a Sony Vaio computer!
Actually, UMAX (makers of SuperMac) gained the license for Mac OS 8 and shipped clones with the newer System Software.
My college had these and I loved them. They were super fast.
Despite of me disliking Apple products, because of their business practices. But I have to admit that they had changed the market with very little to no explanation with a single statement.
Still hated when people are still overpricing old Macs and MacBooks (they still do that with other desktops and laptops).
And of course Apple will never have to worry about money in the company's lifetime anyways.