@@BigJBeats Yes. They work with the owners of the original IP to get a blessing / license / partner on it. All parties involved have an interest in a quality final product and no one is surreptitiously copied. If Behringer approached Arturia and got a license / approval for a dead copy that they could make in order to sell their upcoming DAW, then the comparison would be fair, and so would Behringer's business practices.
@@att6915 Hold Uli's beer...they are coming out with their own DAW soon and you can bet your ass they also will sell 15$ versions of every effects ever build by UAD
@@0VRLNDR There was some shadiness about their Synthi emulation and there are several that don't use trade dress because they didn't partner with the maker/rights holder. On something like the 2600 I don't particularly care - Korg got the ARP name and logo via ARP's bankruptcy, they have no real claim to it IMO.
@@mvsr990 "On something like the 2600, I don't particularly care..." Oh, come on, Atari's sound was rather good for its time. (yes, I know you're talking about a keyboard ARP/Korg)
I owned an Emulator II in the early 2000s. It was dead when i got it and had it restored at EARS in NYC. It had been owned previously by The Residents (!) and had a bunch of floppy discs from them.
@gridsleep I know this is supposed to be a joke, but didn't they add a bunch of Deepmind features to the Juno? And people always say the Deepind sounds quite Juno-esque...
@gridsleep no I mean that the DeepMind supposedly sounds like a Juno, but it had lots more features. Then Arturia came with the new Juno VST and they also added a bunch of extra features that are also in the DeepMind. Haven't compared the two myself though.
I LOVE my Keystep! Aftertouch. Perfect size for my setup. Arturia products all sound great and you can live off the presets forever. How they use less cpu than any of the others I have, is a great mystery you could maybe shed some light on. AND -- Arturia has fantastic customer service!!!! I have never been ignored or not helped and recently someone helped me above and beyond.
I've never seen him acknowledge it directly but Benn saying "they shut that shit DOWN" means he either really is aware that he looks like Negan or it's some wild universal synchronicity that has led to Benn being a synthesis genius and touring musician clone of the guy
Great review. You’re a fan but don’t try to hide it. I am too. 😀 Their plugins are so practical, creative and useful. And I can’t wait to hit its update!
Nice! I have a hardware Dave Smith OB-6, and can say that the OB-Xa pairs well and stands up decently with it. I've watched a lot of Oberheim videos, and Arturia's recreation seems accurate to me.
@@zachhaywood1564 As I understand it, the OB-6 is collaboration between Dave Smith and Tom Oberheim. But as to who owns the patents - I don't know. Surely Dave would have to get permission to use the patents - however patents don't last for very long, so maybe the patents have already expired. I'm guessing the two are at least professional friends. They are both giants in the field of electronic music - that's for sure.
That Vocoder actually sounds great. Up until hearing this, I have pretty much despised all of them. That Arturia Mellotron wins the mellotron race, as being able to convincingly "mellotronize" your own sounds is a pretty incredible sound design trick. Props for mentioning it, it is brilliant. I believe my V8 upgrade for $99 ships tomorrow! After hearing your demos, I am pretty excited about getting some new VSTs for the first time in quite a while. You chose great sounds and music to share. Beautifully musical clips! Thank you!
Interested to see the inside of _that_ B. Ehringer product. I was developing a hardware mod for the original keystep and got somewhat familiar with it's internals. I know the big B employed reverse engineering in the past, but it'll be interesting to see how blatant they actually are.
@@ThedjAwesome sorry bro. The sale ended about 2 weeks ago it’s back to $599. They always have discounts on various items and always after you make purchases. Trust me you can’t go wrong with Arturia.
This collection seems to me to be the most lovingly crafted, artfully executed bit of plugin engineering. If you have the money, I believe it is worth every cent. I was lucky to grab the 75% off sale which was offered to Pigment owners (ending April 3, 2022). I bought pigment for half price a while back so I'm really lucky. I couldn't really afford it but I grabbed it anyway. So glad I did. The sounds are divine.
I'm looking at this because ProAudioStar has got these older licenses for $50, probably because they're pushing the V Collection 9 now. Can't wait to dig in!
Wow, on the wishlist this collection goes! I don't see myself ever being able to afford $600 literally ever, but maybe! One day! There's still a lot of free stuff I can use!
One unorthodox request: I would be very interested in you reviewing..... the book Voice Leading by David Huron. Just to be clear, it is not a classical/Western music theory book, but mostly talks about acoustic and auditory phenomena (which anyone who's seen an instrument under a spectrum analyser must have wondered about), and I think it's a wonderful reading material for anyone who's producing electronic music, where we can create instruments with any kind of spectral "footprint", unlike classical music, where this has to be done by orchestration. Anyway, at least for me that book was intensely interesting because it exactly answered the kind of questions I've always had.
I just picked it up for $150, a discount for already having Pigments. But what a great purchase. Imagine getting a $600 synth for $150.... no that never happens.
The GForce M-Tron Pro is quite a good Mellotron VST. I also have the Arturia Mellotron. I bought extra presets from Virtual. Synth Pads Both sound great.
The Chambertron is fun because they use the original master tape. They were recorded in America as opposed to Mellotron recorded in the UK. Different vibes.
My problem with the Swing is not that the big-B ripped off the keystep 1:1. I have an issue with the fact that they didn't bother to improve it in any way. I have the keystep and boy do i wish it had an effing screen so I know the bloody tempo I'm setting when it's my main keybord. Good luck dialing an exact tempo with the knob and no screen. inb4 Keystep37, I shouldn't have to buy a new keyboard for such a small quality of life improvement. Also, ironic how we're throwing shade at a manufacturer about cloning a product in a video about a collection of cloned instruments.
Hey, I love that 'swing' clone from Arturia. Let's hope Behringer doesn't sue them - edit - wow, I am not the only one having that association. Definitely time to upgrade my V-collection.
In addition to what Benn said about Arturia having sales (which they do very often compared to other soft synth companies), if you have a registered Arturia product and have an account with them, you often get a special offer that is separate from the sales they have. I have like 7 Arturia products and just checked my price; 399. Worth checking out. Also, they just had the V collection on sale for 250 which is an absolute steal.
Correct me if I’m wrong (and totally could be) but isn’t the JX 8P really similar to the JX-3P and hence the Juno 6? I see the JX line as almost preset versions of the Juno 6/60s but that’s based on reviews I’ve seen. I was considering looking into getting a JX-3P for this very reason so if they are vastly different I may reconsider.
Great video. You know, if you pay full-price for the V-Collection, yes, it does seem like a lot of money, but like you say, you get instruments that are very well developed. I bought in on V-Collection 3 and skipped 4, bought 5, skipped 6 and bought 7, each time with a price break from Arturia at the time of introduction. They DO have sales annually and at other random times as well, it seems. If you can get it on one of their sale times, it's certainly worth the money-you won't find ANY of the represented instruments in real life for anywhere near the money you will pay for the Arturia product, and their emulations are amazing. Couple them with some good production plugs on your DAW and you can create amazing tracks for not a lot of money. Black Friday Sales rule. I also just got the Lindell 80 Neve channel strip and the CLA 76 compressor on sale. Running the CS-80 V into that signal chain is tremendous. But yeah, Arturia does a great job-worth the money, I think. Again, great video-thank you for posting!
Benn roasts Behringer harder than Thanksgiving turkey XD love it. I have 4 Behringer products - the UMC202HD, 2x B2301a speakers, and Xenyx X1222 mixer for shows. Love all four pieces despite hating the company's ethical position or lack thereof. However, I have recently became a fanboy of Arturia and got me a Studio interface and now wait for the Limited Edition Minilab MKII Orange to come out.
While these are great - I’m torn between this and the UVI vintage vault 3.. Are Arturia VSTs CPU heavy like the Roland Cloud VSTs? I know UVI are samples so I’m leaning more towards them (plus they have an MKS-80 Super Jupiter VST - or as they call it - Mercury 80), than having to upgrade my MacBook yet again. Also, any word on UVI having a vintage vault 4? I think they usually come out with their VST packages at the beginning of the year and vintage vault 3 is 11 months old.
Right?! I’ve subscribed to Benn for a bit now and he’s really funny and dead on with stuff like that. Check out his “de-trolling” video of the Polyend/Dreadbox Medusa for similar humor. I felt pride in being a subscriber when he made the Behringer comment.
Great video! Maybe someone has mentioned it, but the Emulator II was not $30K when it came out, the II plus was a cool 10K. 1984 dollars! Still hella expensive!
Came here for a review of the Behringer B-Collection 8.
Is it okay that Arturia’s foundation is emulating EVERYTHING they produce?? Asking for a friend.🤔
@@BigJBeats Yes. They work with the owners of the original IP to get a blessing / license / partner on it. All parties involved have an interest in a quality final product and no one is surreptitiously copied. If Behringer approached Arturia and got a license / approval for a dead copy that they could make in order to sell their upcoming DAW, then the comparison would be fair, and so would Behringer's business practices.
@@att6915 Hold Uli's beer...they are coming out with their own DAW soon and you can bet your ass they also will sell 15$ versions of every effects ever build by UAD
@@0VRLNDR There was some shadiness about their Synthi emulation and there are several that don't use trade dress because they didn't partner with the maker/rights holder. On something like the 2600 I don't particularly care - Korg got the ARP name and logo via ARP's bankruptcy, they have no real claim to it IMO.
@@mvsr990 "On something like the 2600, I don't particularly care..." Oh, come on, Atari's sound was rather good for its time. (yes, I know you're talking about a keyboard ARP/Korg)
Bro I’m dying. Your reference to Behringer.
well they are doing the same thing
Are you?
@@Ben_______x aren't we all?
Ah, that is why they were selling me the V-Collection 7 so cheap a few days ago!
For the upsales, yup.
Still though the 50% discount + upgrade is still cheaper then V8 full price so... Fine.. =p
You might be eligible for a free upgrade? Contact support and find out!
@@ibrahim47x If anyone finds out if that's possible, lmk! I just bought the V Collection 7 last week
@@OhShootKid Will do!
I owned an Emulator II in the early 2000s. It was dead when i got it and had it restored at EARS in NYC. It had been owned previously by The Residents (!) and had a bunch of floppy discs from them.
Cant wait for the arturia behringer video
@gridsleep I know this is supposed to be a joke, but didn't they add a bunch of Deepmind features to the Juno? And people always say the Deepind sounds quite Juno-esque...
@gridsleep no I mean that the DeepMind supposedly sounds like a Juno, but it had lots more features. Then Arturia came with the new Juno VST and they also added a bunch of extra features that are also in the DeepMind. Haven't compared the two myself though.
I usually think "shut up and play" when I watch reviews but this was a great balance of info and audio demos! subbed!
6:02 took me a couple of listens before I heard "in app tutorials", instead of "inept tutorials".
I guess I'm used to really low bars.
I love your humor Benn.
Soo his weekend,finally got V Collection on a great offer, so happy happy joy joy, great video!
The keystep still remains my favorite midi-controller. It's just so handy and plays really well with touch-sensitivity.
Just bought a Keystep so it was rad to watch you put these through their paces with it. Now to go learn Jump.
It's so good to have access to these emulations, thinking about how much they cost back in their day.
Excellent vid! And thank you for not playing 'jump' when you were demonstrating the OB X!
Awesome review! I got a 50% discount from Arturia today and ended up going in to buy it after watching your video. Thanks for the review!
1:33 Omg the synth transition after the jingle was amazing o.o
I LOVE my Keystep! Aftertouch. Perfect size for my setup. Arturia products all sound great and you can live off the presets forever. How they use less cpu than any of the others I have, is a great mystery you could maybe shed some light on.
AND -- Arturia has fantastic customer service!!!! I have never been ignored or not helped and recently someone helped me above and beyond.
I've never seen him acknowledge it directly but Benn saying "they shut that shit DOWN" means he either really is aware that he looks like Negan or it's some wild universal synchronicity that has led to Benn being a synthesis genius and touring musician clone of the guy
Great review. You’re a fan but don’t try to hide it. I am too. 😀 Their plugins are so practical, creative and useful. And I can’t wait to hit its update!
Love your energy bro (and the behringer reference 🤣🤣🤣) subscribed.
I'm a big fan of Arturia for sure !! I don't think I'll ever explore the full potential of this collection within my lifetime.
Well, this made me pull the trigger on the V Collection. Since I own the Keylab 61, it was discounted to $260 which seems like a bargain.
How did you get this discount? Interested in they KeyLab but see no reference o a discount for V Collection. Thanks.
@@sliiiimjim if you're a customer you get extra discount. and now with black friday, V collection comes to €200
Im just renting it from Splice!
Just had to stop the video and say how hilarious you are ! The “B” company was clutch 😂
Great video. Really cool chords. Thanks for the awesome review!
Way to represent! Go Arturia!
Nice! I have a hardware Dave Smith OB-6, and can say that the OB-Xa pairs well and stands up decently with it. I've watched a lot of Oberheim videos, and Arturia's recreation seems accurate to me.
I'm new to the synth world, so please forgive me if I get some things wrong, but did Dave Smith buy out Oberheim and/or all of their designs/patents?
@@zachhaywood1564 As I understand it, the OB-6 is collaboration between Dave Smith and Tom Oberheim. But as to who owns the patents - I don't know. Surely Dave would have to get permission to use the patents - however patents don't last for very long, so maybe the patents have already expired. I'm guessing the two are at least professional friends. They are both giants in the field of electronic music - that's for sure.
That Vocoder actually sounds great. Up until hearing this, I have pretty much despised all of them. That Arturia Mellotron wins the mellotron race, as being able to convincingly "mellotronize" your own sounds is a pretty incredible sound design trick. Props for mentioning it, it is brilliant. I believe my V8 upgrade for $99 ships tomorrow! After hearing your demos, I am pretty excited about getting some new VSTs for the first time in quite a while. You chose great sounds and music to share. Beautifully musical clips! Thank you!
Love your vids man. That OBX gives me inspiration every time I pull it up!
Interested to see the inside of _that_ B. Ehringer product. I was developing a hardware mod for the original keystep and got somewhat familiar with it's internals. I know the big B employed reverse engineering in the past, but it'll be interesting to see how blatant they actually are.
That's very interesting. Can you elaborate?
Nice work, you have a new follower for sure! 👍🏻
This is how u review a product amazing bro
Helpful and informative! Thank you.
Staying tuned for the Behringer video :)
That OB-Xa sounds DOPE!
every musician who made hits from Prince to Van Halen used it and lots of musicians still use it
V collection is great. Can't wait to try 8
EEK- Much love for "Orange" ! Released an EP of citrus themed songs using it back in the netlabel days~
The new synths in this are excellent..hands down a massive improvement. Analog Lab 5 which I got a free upgrade to is very much improved 👍🏼
Just snapped this up for $149 on special for Arturia users. I already own pigments 3.5. It was a no brainer.
Same here. A steal!!
@@stevenwheeler7999 Is the deal still going on? How do you become an Arturia user?
@@ThedjAwesome sorry bro. The sale ended about 2 weeks ago it’s back to $599. They always have discounts on various items and always after you make purchases. Trust me you can’t go wrong with Arturia.
Really enjoyed that. Thanks.
Synthi and Vocoder are my favs in this collection
This collection seems to me to be the most lovingly crafted, artfully executed bit of plugin engineering. If you have the money, I believe it is worth every cent. I was lucky to grab the 75% off sale which was offered to Pigment owners (ending April 3, 2022). I bought pigment for half price a while back so I'm really lucky. I couldn't really afford it but I grabbed it anyway. So glad I did. The sounds are divine.
Ditto!
Ditto! 149 +69 instead of 599 +199 Jackpot!😀
The mellotron is fucking amazing. I cant escape it lol.. I keep going back to it song after song
Not comapred to GForce's Mello. But - more Mello can't be bad whichever you choose :)
Love VH jump.
What a beautiful patch for the first OB-XA demonstration. Was that a Factory patch?
wow these sound really good
old jingle YEAH
Thanks!
Thanks I just got this with a 60% off deal
I didnt even know the V8 collection was announced.
Maybe because it was announced exactly a minute after you wrote this comment
@@JoeyFTL That would explain it alright.
I haven't even gotten a mail about it and I own V7 😂
I only know bc mylar melodies accidentally said it in a live stream
@@SyntheticFuture yeah cuz they wanted to push their 50% off v 7 sale for Black Friday and the moment after that ended they dropped v 8 lol
Skipped V7 update but tempted by updating to V8 due to the Juno 6 V.
I'm looking at this because ProAudioStar has got these older licenses for $50, probably because they're pushing the V Collection 9 now. Can't wait to dig in!
Pretty useful review, cheers.
Awesome ❤️ !!!
it's a steal.
Jun 6-V sounds beautiful
I like them. Ouchy price!
I have an unreasonable amount of love for my Keystep. Great for a beginner like me.
Thanks
Jump was actually recorded on an OB-X, but he played an OB-Xa in the music video
Wow, on the wishlist this collection goes!
I don't see myself ever being able to afford $600 literally ever, but maybe! One day! There's still a lot of free stuff I can use!
Oh yeah check out the MG-1 for a vintage Moogy synth and the new Vital is insanely powerful.
Damn, your V6 video is my favorite video of yours, and that Laura Brannigan commentary part was what made me subscribe. 🤣
I was hooked on the collection 8 when the Juno vst was able to follow a yazoo don't go sounds tutorial
would love to see a v collection 9 and fx collection review!
6:10 onwards, so very Vangelis in Blade Runner.
One unorthodox request: I would be very interested in you reviewing..... the book Voice Leading by David Huron. Just to be clear, it is not a classical/Western music theory book, but mostly talks about acoustic and auditory phenomena (which anyone who's seen an instrument under a spectrum analyser must have wondered about), and I think it's a wonderful reading material for anyone who's producing electronic music, where we can create instruments with any kind of spectral "footprint", unlike classical music, where this has to be done by orchestration. Anyway, at least for me that book was intensely interesting because it exactly answered the kind of questions I've always had.
Thanks for sharing this recommendation!
I make a living producing music, V-Collection is a no brainer.
loved my orange vocoder
Your video is not helpful to prevent me from buying this collection. 😄 Love it!
I just picked it up for $150, a discount for already having Pigments. But what a great purchase. Imagine getting a $600 synth for $150.... no that never happens.
me too
Great video, as always, but I'm really looking forward to hearing your slap down of the company that begins with the letter B.
1:37 That's M83, right? Not heard that in aaages!
I love there effects, just as much as my UAD or plug-in alliance stuff. I love there 1176. I think imma try this bundle out, thanks for the vid :)
really funny to see the giant keystep in front of the tiny Oberheim x))
I got the VII at black friday for half price :) just loving it!
Amazing how does that little box do all that.
The GForce M-Tron Pro is quite a good Mellotron VST. I also have the Arturia Mellotron. I bought extra presets from Virtual. Synth Pads Both sound great.
The Chambertron is fun because they use the original master tape. They were recorded in America as opposed to Mellotron recorded in the UK. Different vibes.
Orange Vocoder reference!
Price during black Friday 2021; 199 Euro's. Bought it and it's installing as we speak 😎
My problem with the Swing is not that the big-B ripped off the keystep 1:1.
I have an issue with the fact that they didn't bother to improve it in any way.
I have the keystep and boy do i wish it had an effing screen so I know the bloody tempo I'm setting when it's my main keybord. Good luck dialing an exact tempo with the knob and no screen.
inb4 Keystep37, I shouldn't have to buy a new keyboard for such a small quality of life improvement.
Also, ironic how we're throwing shade at a manufacturer about cloning a product in a video about a collection of cloned instruments.
Hey, I love that 'swing' clone from Arturia. Let's hope Behringer doesn't sue them - edit - wow, I am not the only one having that association. Definitely time to upgrade my V-collection.
Arturia!
Nice.
I'm really struggling between going omnisphere and arturia V. Wish these things were $300-400.
my current dilemma! what did you end up going for?
@@V-A I went Arturia V. The Mellotron m, emu, and minimoog vsts sold me
@@FakeGlasses thanks very much Sam!
Shit sounds amazing, price is steep but it really is a fair price.
In addition to what Benn said about Arturia having sales (which they do very often compared to other soft synth companies), if you have a registered Arturia product and have an account with them, you often get a special offer that is separate from the sales they have. I have like 7 Arturia products and just checked my price; 399. Worth checking out. Also, they just had the V collection on sale for 250 which is an absolute steal.
I would probably buy it if the Roland JX 8P would be part of it. But that isn’t the case. Super review.
Correct me if I’m wrong (and totally could be) but isn’t the JX 8P really similar to the JX-3P and hence the Juno 6? I see the JX line as almost preset versions of the Juno 6/60s but that’s based on reviews I’ve seen. I was considering looking into getting a JX-3P for this very reason so if they are vastly different I may reconsider.
@@masonarcher2998 I don‘t know as I only had the JX8P. The JX3P is the cheaper version of the 8P, as far as 8 know.
Nice review, I wonder if someone want this legendary software 🧐
1:33 Ah yeah, this is what I came here for.
Great video. You know, if you pay full-price for the V-Collection, yes, it does seem like a lot of money, but like you say, you get instruments that are very well developed. I bought in on V-Collection 3 and skipped 4, bought 5, skipped 6 and bought 7, each time with a price break from Arturia at the time of introduction. They DO have sales annually and at other random times as well, it seems. If you can get it on one of their sale times, it's certainly worth the money-you won't find ANY of the represented instruments in real life for anywhere near the money you will pay for the Arturia product, and their emulations are amazing. Couple them with some good production plugs on your DAW and you can create amazing tracks for not a lot of money. Black Friday Sales rule. I also just got the Lindell 80 Neve channel strip and the CLA 76 compressor on sale. Running the CS-80 V into that signal chain is tremendous. But yeah, Arturia does a great job-worth the money, I think. Again, great video-thank you for posting!
Just rent it from Splice you pay it off!
5:09 "When you're cold
, fire burns the earth, and everyone gets burned - like meeee)))"
Not gonna lie, I love the Behringer Neutron.
Benn roasts Behringer harder than Thanksgiving turkey XD love it. I have 4 Behringer products - the UMC202HD, 2x B2301a speakers, and Xenyx X1222 mixer for shows. Love all four pieces despite hating the company's ethical position or lack thereof. However, I have recently became a fanboy of Arturia and got me a Studio interface and now wait for the Limited Edition Minilab MKII Orange to come out.
benn will probably buy a ubxa hardware synth when they ship
While these are great - I’m torn between this and the UVI vintage vault 3.. Are Arturia VSTs CPU heavy like the Roland Cloud VSTs? I know UVI are samples so I’m leaning more towards them (plus they have an MKS-80 Super Jupiter VST - or as they call it - Mercury 80), than having to upgrade my MacBook yet again. Also, any word on UVI having a vintage vault 4? I think they usually come out with their VST packages at the beginning of the year and vintage vault 3 is 11 months old.
Liked for the well crafted sound references and subscribed for calling out the garbage ethics of BUli....thanks man :)
Right?! I’ve subscribed to Benn for a bit now and he’s really funny and dead on with stuff like that. Check out his “de-trolling” video of the Polyend/Dreadbox Medusa for similar humor. I felt pride in being a subscriber when he made the Behringer comment.
Black Friday ape-mode initiated!
always great stuff...have you played with the new equator 2?
Waiting for them to finally make Alesis A6 Andromeda emulation
I loved the very very very subtle jab at behringer there. Really nice touch!
Lol, seriously though fuck bear ringer.
When Synapse released their OB-Xa plugin, I saw arguments about whether Arturia or Synapse could do a better "Jump." It was baffling.
why would anybody care? lol "Jump" has been done and.. i don't need to do it again... or want to
I know the OB-XA for Prince, actually. 1999, Let's Go Crazy, etc
Orange Vocoder reference did actually hurt...
Great video! Maybe someone has mentioned it, but the Emulator II was not $30K when it came out, the II plus was a cool 10K. 1984 dollars! Still hella expensive!
Probably be over 50k in today's U.S. dollar.
watching this after paying for it like a boss 😎