BITCOIN ETF LAUNCH DISASTER Explained! | Raoul Pal & Henrik Zeberg

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @alanjdunne
    @alanjdunne 10 месяцев назад +54

    It is just like the gold ETFs back in the day. They started terribly but then went up massively over the years. Everyone is too focused on the short term

    • @mikebrowne3914
      @mikebrowne3914 10 месяцев назад +1

      💯

    • @freedom9611
      @freedom9611 10 месяцев назад +3

      without EFT’s Bitcoin has dominated for 15 years. That’s all we have to know. Lol

  • @Vestu
    @Vestu 10 месяцев назад +285

    It didn't fail, it wasn't a disaster. This price action is expected. Just don't step into the bear trap.

    • @jamesgodson4221
      @jamesgodson4221 10 месяцев назад +15

      It’s over. Sell everything

    • @Nover_young
      @Nover_young 10 месяцев назад +12

      Disaster! It broke every single ETF record, sell the news! Get out now!

    • @JaysenR
      @JaysenR 10 месяцев назад

      @@jamesgodson4221lol no doubt 😅

    • @cryptoguru2224
      @cryptoguru2224 10 месяцев назад

      45 suckers

    • @dshow1658
      @dshow1658 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Nover_youngright!!

  • @brubakerman8717
    @brubakerman8717 10 месяцев назад +62

    This ETF is like the halving nothing happens to begin with . Give it time.

    • @jamesnguyen7069
      @jamesnguyen7069 10 месяцев назад +3

      the big boys are loading up.

    • @HavokRm
      @HavokRm 10 месяцев назад

      @@jamesnguyen7069 they will do so again when its cheaper, these are BIG funds which already manipulate trillion dollars markets

    • @bibablendi4747
      @bibablendi4747 10 месяцев назад

      @@jamesnguyen7069OTC though

    • @mrpunxsseazar6510
      @mrpunxsseazar6510 10 месяцев назад +1

      They won't just enter makes business sense to spread over time

    • @chessqld5877
      @chessqld5877 10 месяцев назад +1

      yep.. agree !!

  • @Jmac19994
    @Jmac19994 10 месяцев назад +104

    Thoughtful, respectful discussion. Excellent! Thanks gentlemen.

    • @count-ivannightly8933
      @count-ivannightly8933 10 месяцев назад +1

      Must not have watched the same show I watched.

    • @waltermun
      @waltermun 10 месяцев назад +2

      As thoughtful as the title?

    • @Jmac19994
      @Jmac19994 10 месяцев назад +1

      Ya, the title was ridiculous! Click bate-ish for sure.

    • @Jmac19994
      @Jmac19994 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@count-ivannightly8933I guess I should have clarified, it was regarding the discussion about the two guest’s economic outlook.

    • @worldwillem
      @worldwillem 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes true but the clickbait has to stop almost the feeling i have to unsub

  • @MB-ot4mj
    @MB-ot4mj 10 месяцев назад +41

    Big respect for both of these guys - Legends 😊 Thanks Ran 😊

  • @newyork47831
    @newyork47831 10 месяцев назад +57

    Everything takes time! The longer we wait the more money we will make!😁🔥💰🚀

    • @J-Rod73
      @J-Rod73 10 месяцев назад +4

      💯👍

  • @danM6102
    @danM6102 10 месяцев назад +101

    Give the ETFS time!!!

    • @OrangeDiamond33
      @OrangeDiamond33 10 месяцев назад +1

      I’m shitting my pants!!

    • @casesully50
      @casesully50 10 месяцев назад +4

      I'm gonna diamond hands this shit

    • @Victor.A.
      @Victor.A. 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yea, clickbait title

    • @s.thomas5220
      @s.thomas5220 10 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly!!

    • @karlczerwonka7561
      @karlczerwonka7561 10 месяцев назад

      STELL inflationary PAPER MONEY - u don't own it !

  • @kingcrypto8134
    @kingcrypto8134 10 месяцев назад +30

    Ran changing the subject as soon as they give bad news about Solana

    • @SolanaSnipa
      @SolanaSnipa 10 месяцев назад +1

      What was the “bad” news? It went up too fast lmao?

  • @DRAVIDIAN500
    @DRAVIDIAN500 10 месяцев назад +6

    HOW IS GINSLER NOT FIRED???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • @moshehochman1
    @moshehochman1 10 месяцев назад +25

    Henrik zeberg & Raul Paul are some of my favorite guests 👍

  • @cameronfalder9672
    @cameronfalder9672 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great interview, good to see someone challenge Raoul with conviction.

  • @morrisdyer9560
    @morrisdyer9560 10 месяцев назад +30

    It will takes some time for Bitcoin to hit home. I am with the Chinese: long strategy

  • @victorfaasuamaleaui
    @victorfaasuamaleaui 10 месяцев назад +15

    Ran gives off serious used car salesman vibes

    • @cmunch7473
      @cmunch7473 10 месяцев назад +2

      SERIOUS lol

    • @ss12345
      @ss12345 6 месяцев назад +1

      This made me larf. Nailed it

  • @shellsbells373
    @shellsbells373 10 месяцев назад +6

    Great question on invalidation thesis, Ran. What an awesome discussion. Bring them both back on in April to see where we are.

  • @Zunayo
    @Zunayo 10 месяцев назад +2

    Recession by definition means negatice GDP grwoth. If 2024 GPD growth is positive, Henriks thesis is invalidated.

  • @xaadadaa
    @xaadadaa 10 месяцев назад +6

    Jim Cramer said it topped so god candle will come soon

  • @i9999y
    @i9999y 10 месяцев назад +32

    Huge flop! SEC brought momentum down from their BS tweet.

    • @J-Rod73
      @J-Rod73 10 месяцев назад +4

      They "iced" the market like they do in football, lol 😆

    • @geralda576
      @geralda576 10 месяцев назад +7

      The momentum was deflated by the SEC.

    • @rehanhafeez8419
      @rehanhafeez8419 10 месяцев назад +2

      SEC uncontrolled fart spoilt the atmosphere 😞

  • @SammyC27
    @SammyC27 10 месяцев назад +3

    sheesh... which of the guests will be right? two VERY different futures!

  • @NANOGH0ST
    @NANOGH0ST 10 месяцев назад +24

    This system, this world is controlled by bad actors...

    • @nights5956
      @nights5956 10 месяцев назад

      @@abnocoword !

  • @JThoelen
    @JThoelen 10 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting discussion... Personally, I am more on the side of Raoul Pal but definitely keeping my eyes open for Henrik Zeberg's theories... From Q2 2024 we need to pay attention! The big question is, did the world change in 2008...

  • @britwincollins8590
    @britwincollins8590 10 месяцев назад +2

    now this is how an unbiased educative discussion is done. Thanks, Ran.

  • @CKrumm-ej7zd
    @CKrumm-ej7zd 10 месяцев назад +9

    Great conversation on todays show. Love to hear opposing view points

  • @frankfromupstateny3796
    @frankfromupstateny3796 10 месяцев назад

    Great rationales on both sides...thanks to all.

  • @sonnygonzalez-sz5nu
    @sonnygonzalez-sz5nu 10 месяцев назад +2

    Love this debate. Top tier. Raoul ain’t playing

  • @PrestonLucas
    @PrestonLucas 10 месяцев назад +4

    Bullish after Ivan on Tech, BEARISH after Banter

  • @paulgomez3318
    @paulgomez3318 10 месяцев назад +2

    Two very smart individuals. Pleasant to listen to.

  • @markgreen2170
    @markgreen2170 10 месяцев назад +10

    yes, if 'money printing' were the solution ...at 34 trillion dollars in debt, all problems should be solved, no?

  • @jeffroekelly5775
    @jeffroekelly5775 10 месяцев назад +3

    Countdown before video starts is stupid.. Thumbs down

  • @Mondegreen2020
    @Mondegreen2020 10 месяцев назад +14

    Total bollocks. This is all just the spruce moose.

    • @WhitePillPC
      @WhitePillPC 10 месяцев назад +1

      Mr Burns' plane?

  • @scottybones6478
    @scottybones6478 10 месяцев назад +46

    Very high quality episode. Love geniuses in respectful debate.

  • @mrobert79
    @mrobert79 10 месяцев назад

    Wow, genius conversation between Raoul & Henrik!

  • @Bauserzone007
    @Bauserzone007 10 месяцев назад +7

    This is your best show ever !
    Outstanding Annalise from two extremely bright people.

  • @barrydwyer2527
    @barrydwyer2527 10 месяцев назад +6

    That was an absolutely amazing show 💪🏼

  • @johorm9912
    @johorm9912 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good debate. Excellent guests

  • @corvanvelzyn6823
    @corvanvelzyn6823 10 месяцев назад +1

    Top quality, thanks Banter

  • @BowlWithKing
    @BowlWithKing 10 месяцев назад +3

    I love respectful disagreements backed by different data points… in the meantime, let’s goooooooo! 🚀🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

  • @devesevolving
    @devesevolving 10 месяцев назад +3

    This was great, thanks for having these two on!

  • @remknock
    @remknock 10 месяцев назад +1

    HODL. Give it until Q4 2025.

  • @Mr.time_editz
    @Mr.time_editz 10 месяцев назад +6

    Please stop

  • @angeloprioste8637
    @angeloprioste8637 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sol is held up by meme coins. But profit is profit

  • @joaoandre1594
    @joaoandre1594 10 месяцев назад +1

    ICP ICP ICP is the future

  • @Topher118
    @Topher118 6 месяцев назад

    Would love another episode of this soon!

  • @bethaapple2102
    @bethaapple2102 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ran, please let the gentleman talking. We are ok with longer durations. Thanks

  • @dbased1915
    @dbased1915 10 месяцев назад +4

    Market was already overheated which was why Bitcoin was showing sensitivity to the downside.
    Pretty much the opposite of the post FTX collapse when almost no bad news was pushing us lower.

  • @TheJrole
    @TheJrole 10 месяцев назад

    Love conversations with great people with opposing views.

  • @judithsnell9981
    @judithsnell9981 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks. Great program

  • @jeanyvesvisuals8844
    @jeanyvesvisuals8844 10 месяцев назад

    Now this is value add. Thanks for bringing them on, Ran!

  • @raym6747
    @raym6747 10 месяцев назад

    Thx for the interview.. insightfull..

  • @diyhomefixin7280
    @diyhomefixin7280 10 месяцев назад +2

    Wealthy individuals don’t ape in. They’ll wait for the dust to settle.

  • @munchoutwithmaryjane_givea228
    @munchoutwithmaryjane_givea228 10 месяцев назад +2

    Vanguard Is owned by blackrock😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TheDhmcompu
    @TheDhmcompu 10 месяцев назад +8

    I think we put the Trojan horse in the wolves den

  • @kenny19581
    @kenny19581 10 месяцев назад +1

    why am I getting forign language in subtitles?

  • @JoshTobaquero
    @JoshTobaquero 10 месяцев назад

    Who has the better track record Raul or hendrik??

  • @cryptomistic7683
    @cryptomistic7683 10 месяцев назад +1

    Another Great Banter Show

  • @DM43303
    @DM43303 10 месяцев назад +3

    Love Ran 🎉nice way to end on this Friday! Positive vibes!

  • @p.a.93
    @p.a.93 10 месяцев назад

    No mention of BRICS dropping support for U.S. dollar.

  • @jrh9803
    @jrh9803 10 месяцев назад

    Good Morning All, From Kansas, U.S.A.

  • @thomasbarrett5350
    @thomasbarrett5350 10 месяцев назад +1

    @ the 50 minute mark I started to question if I have confirmation bias.
    Fantastic discussion with extremely pertinent questions being asked by Ran especially towards the end.

  • @mikeg8233
    @mikeg8233 10 месяцев назад +3

    Yeah thanks Ran, but I’ll vote how I want.

    • @mikeg8233
      @mikeg8233 10 месяцев назад

      @@NN-el3mm yeah we have problems but I would never vote for an authoritarian wannabe to make more money.

  • @dwanHuger
    @dwanHuger 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great show today very informative!!

  • @yanikeke
    @yanikeke 10 месяцев назад +3

    Cant stand these guys with the TA charts...

  • @PinkyFloyd5529
    @PinkyFloyd5529 10 месяцев назад +2

    Best content of any YT channel…

  • @long_and_longer
    @long_and_longer 10 месяцев назад +1

    I really enjoyed hearing these perspectives on the outlook of the macro environment for 2024.

  • @vure__x
    @vure__x 10 месяцев назад

    Fantastic show! Loved hearing both sides 👏

  • @brighthalogen
    @brighthalogen 10 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome show! Top class Ran.

  • @BananaZone26
    @BananaZone26 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’m with Henrik

  • @williamwallace8535
    @williamwallace8535 10 месяцев назад +16

    It’s so obvious these guys are blind guessing like the rest of us lol

  • @atulpandey2926
    @atulpandey2926 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love to get this kind of show

  • @barryharris4967
    @barryharris4967 10 месяцев назад +8

    Immigrants who come into the country can't sign up to vote.

    • @losonavaja4249
      @losonavaja4249 10 месяцев назад

      Totally agree … some people just dont know shit!!! Its hilarious

    • @HavokRm
      @HavokRm 10 месяцев назад +1

      for now ;)

  • @ronbo30
    @ronbo30 10 месяцев назад

    Going below 38k before halving.

  • @jaredbaker5887
    @jaredbaker5887 10 месяцев назад +6

    I knew in my heart it wasnt going ti go smooth.

    • @CarlArriaza
      @CarlArriaza 10 месяцев назад +2

      Nothing ever does 😂

  • @MikeR-d7d
    @MikeR-d7d 10 месяцев назад

    There is no disaster. Everything is fine, buy the dip.

  • @alpinaman
    @alpinaman 10 месяцев назад +2

    More of this please Ran, cheers 👍

  • @newyork47831
    @newyork47831 10 месяцев назад +3

    Ethereum ETF NEXT! Ethereum is going to skyrocket!😁🔥💰🚀

  • @AustralianRacing
    @AustralianRacing 10 месяцев назад +1

    Who else skipped all Ran the scam man intro speech to get to the real important people, the guest's!

  • @DeepakSharma-xv9fe
    @DeepakSharma-xv9fe 10 месяцев назад +3

    Henrik has so much logic in talks but Paul is living in haha land where he expects everything to come easy.

  • @mfer134
    @mfer134 10 месяцев назад +2

    This channel is exhausting.

  • @anderssundell4986
    @anderssundell4986 10 месяцев назад

    Please change your background theme music... hate that! Otherwise good show :P

  • @JimJamJuicy
    @JimJamJuicy 10 месяцев назад

    Whatever happens just DCA. It’s time in the market not timing the market.

  • @ykhov
    @ykhov 10 месяцев назад

    Both are wrong. The Top was the Spot ETF release.

  • @DIY_Capital
    @DIY_Capital 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Ran Great show!

  • @samuelmatlou5960
    @samuelmatlou5960 10 месяцев назад

    Loved it can we get more please 🤗🤗

  • @Pouckimon
    @Pouckimon 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome discussion!

  • @ouruhuru
    @ouruhuru 10 месяцев назад

    Trading volume ≠ inflows.

  • @DubProof
    @DubProof 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sell everything?

  • @JordySquirrel
    @JordySquirrel 10 месяцев назад

    Dot will reach $150 in my opinion. Massively under valued compared to all the main Alts. ADA also will reach over $12 in 2025.

  • @ahwillucopon4572
    @ahwillucopon4572 10 месяцев назад +6

    The OTC desks are quite dry, whales are being offered % premium if they sell. Supply is drying up.

    • @richardbeaumont7960
      @richardbeaumont7960 10 месяцев назад +1

      How can we check that? Is there any way to estimate OTC reserves?

  • @Andi0012345
    @Andi0012345 10 месяцев назад

    This whole video content is solid. Furthermore, that recession discussion is really good! Love this vid

  • @joschfx8342
    @joschfx8342 10 месяцев назад +1

    good to hear different perspectives 👍

  • @nostra5
    @nostra5 10 месяцев назад +1

    The best show ever was today

  • @markbraunschweig5227
    @markbraunschweig5227 10 месяцев назад +1

    The only disaster was the SEC, go figure.

  • @markoneill6265
    @markoneill6265 10 месяцев назад +1

    Chainlink is trading at $80 now on Greyscale

  • @orca.digital
    @orca.digital 10 месяцев назад

    Simple knee jerk reallocation based on fees instead of underlying AUM…

  • @Stonkings
    @Stonkings 10 месяцев назад

    This was total click-bait. Kinda what I would expect from Rand 😕

  • @crouchingmole
    @crouchingmole 10 месяцев назад +7

    $Clickbait... but it got me anyway

    • @Eric-hz7ei
      @Eric-hz7ei 10 месяцев назад

      Same here

    • @BCD_2020
      @BCD_2020 10 месяцев назад

      Every time

  • @jason.martin
    @jason.martin 10 месяцев назад +4

    Great discussion, I am surprised things went down after the ETF came out

  • @blackfiree91
    @blackfiree91 10 месяцев назад +2

    Accumulate! Zoooom out!!!! Accumulate! More! Accumulate

  • @sazajac77z
    @sazajac77z 10 месяцев назад

    I learned yesterday that vanguard wouldnt let me buy some gold miners, nor the dollar bear fund. I need to get out of vangaurd.
    Anybody know of something better?

  • @BitcoinAndCryptoCurrency
    @BitcoinAndCryptoCurrency 10 месяцев назад

    thanks for the vid

  • @sharnahar5466
    @sharnahar5466 10 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic show Ran ❤