I was born into and raised in a cult for the first 23 years of my life. 16 years ago, when I first became aware of the transgender movement, I recognized cult-like aspects to it.
A cult is an organized group whose purpose is to dominate cult members through psychological manipulation and pressure strategies. 1 Cults are usually headed by a powerful leader who isolates members from the rest of society. Some individuals who join cults remain lifelong members. Calling those who accept the consensus of the scientific community "a religious cult" sounds like projection to me. It's like a young earth creationists saying "it takes more FAITH to believe in evolution than the Bible" Faith is not required. Obedience to any authority is not required. While I personally consider faith an unreliable pathway to truth, faith in a god or belief in an afterlife can be consistent with acceptance of scientific observations. To put it very clearly, NO the beliefs you call "gender ideology" being understood and accepted is NOT a cult or group of cults. You simply disagree, and feel better about disagreeing if you think of your opponents as religious or in a cult. I wasn't raised into a religion, but I can Google the definition. Every claim the scientific community reaches a consensus on is demonstrable to the scientifically literate. Ugly women are still women. Tall women are also women. Trans women are women. Because women are adult female people. Yes, that does mean women who are trans are female. Seems unintuitive doesn't it? If you Google "anti gender movement Wikipedia" you can read about what you are self-indoctrinating yourself into. You can read about who coined "gender ideology" if you go looking. The experts are right on this topic. The scientific consensus agrees. You are watching these sorts of videos for a reason, and that reason isn't because you want to be informed. You could Google what I suggested if that were your goal.
That makes 4 of us then. It took me nearly 4 years with at psychologist to get deprogrammed but I don’t think I ever recovered fully because knowing that the human mind is capable of believing literally anything no matter how far removed from reality it might be is hard (or perhaps impossible) to recover from. I don’t know any trans people so why should I care. It’s got nothing to do with me. It recently dawned on me that having been brainwashed myself is the reason why this cult affects me as deeply as it does. At least I wasn’t physically mutilated in the bargain. Man, those poor children are in for a rough ride.
When there was one or two per year that "transitioned", I felt sorry for them and thought that "transition" perhaps was the best path for them. (I know of one who had surgery in 1967 (57 years ago - you can imagine what interviews and tests that person had to go through to be allowed being castrated and operated on!) who has regretted it - it is publicised and has been turned into a play and a film.) But once more and more people, and completely different persons compared to the original patient group, started to want to "transition", it was obvious that it was some kind of mass hysteria.
In the film What is woman The various professors seem to deny the idea of truth,they keep on referring to "your truth or "my truth". This chanting of sacred slogans is another example of religious behaviour...trans women are women.
@@katieandnick4113 Yes, but it's a little more complicated. You see, all religions hold there is an objective truth, but some are more candid about it than others. Some they openly proclaim that there is objective truth, and they know it 100%. Some will say that there is objective truth, but admit it's possible that due to Man's limitations we do not fully understand the whole of that truth. And some will say there is no objective truth... But if you aren't part of their religion, you are obviously ignorant of the "secret" truth behind the truth. It's also not necessarily a feature of the religion itself as it is of the adherent, though certain religions tend perpetuate more of one than the others.
32 years ago I moved out of my oppressive home town filled with religious right wingers to live in San Francisco, only to find that I was surrounded by people who had formed their own oppressive beliefs and communities around those beliefs, but worse. Their beliefs were being taught at the university I went to. And much like the church I grew up in, I went along with it while I was forced to, but knew my reality. These true believers didn’t see themselves as “religious” and didn’t understand that it was ok for others not to share their beliefs. It’s really sad how far and wide these particular beliefs have spread since my university days. But people are finally realizing the connection between these delusional beliefs and religion, and it’s great!
Really good assessment of what is going on with this ideology. TransPride flags in my office building. It is assumed we are all followers of this trans ideology. It’s even more worrying that so many gay people are supporting it also.
I'm a lesbian woman and, like the overwhelming majority of gay/lesbian people who realize our "community" has been hijacked by zealots, I do NOT support transgender ideology.
They're all over the children's library this summer. Not the adults... but then my local council has superimposed the trans rainbow flag over its logo. I didn't know this until recently, or I'd not have been surprised.
I can't give numbers or percentages but a lot of lot of gay people are coming to our senses. Lesbians in particular have been pushed too far and are waking up, as we've had our rights and very definition taken away. And boy are we pissed off.
This talk was very helpful in helping me understand what is going on with transgender ideology. Yes. I am profane. Profane'= Present in my mind. It is only by staying Present that I can stay calm enough to enjoy life. Meditation helps. Thank you for this info❤
As a biologist I do wish people wouldn't use the terms MtoF or FtoM because its impossible we cannot change sex however much cosmetic surgery we have. Could use masculine to feminine I suppose and vice versa.??
We can't even create any functioning reproductive organ from scratch, neither testes nor ovaries. This whole thing emanates from political science, not from real science ...
MtF & FtM have always been used for transsexuals and we never had a problem before this mess. They know they aren't literally women or think their biology has been changed. They've already been hurt by having their identity taken away and their medical care made vulnerable. Let's not take more of their language away. Besides, I think this is the least of our problems with the war on language that they're waging. It would be awesome if people would get this upset about the way they're redefining lesbians. You all can actually help us if you speak out on THIS. And it will help the larger fight over the definition of woman. Young lesbians are being told by "trans women", who have had no surgery, may not even be on hormones, that they must "get over their genital biases". Many have been guilt tripped, manipulated and raped. This is where the fight is because this is the ultimate misogynistic homophobic gaslighting there ever has been.
This assumes that a man is masculine, and a woman is feminine, doesn't it? And it assumes that when a man puts on a dress and lippy, he becomes feminine. Personally I always try to use these terms as little as possible. They seem pretty meaningless to me. Just 'men' or 'a subgroup of men' or 'men who claim to be women' will do, imo.
I finally came to this conclusion a while ago, and I'm just trying to find someone who thinks like me....I ended up finding someone who explains it way better than I could. well done
Your voice is incredibly important right now. Not just for bringing awareness to the harms being done by the gender industry but also insight into the emotional and physical conditions that detransitioners have to live with everyday. This is a new frontier and you have a difficult task in front of you.
To be fair, just because that one particular Muslim da'i who invited her to Islam was polite, doesn't mean that the greater Muslim population or Muslim heads would engage so respectfully with her. Islam, by it's own history and goals of it's warlord founder, is an imperialist religion/ideology. She goes on to talk about "political religions" as a separate beast from the run-of-the-mill religions we usually think about, yet seemingly doesn't know enough about Islam to point out that it is one of the first mainstream political religions/ideology and would make a very good comparison for her points. For example, you literally can't make fun of Mohammed or point out what a horrible figure he was without being threatened, pointing out contradictions in Islam and the Quran will get you the same reaction in the Muslim world, the same way making fun of figures in the trans community or pointing out contradictions, like Colette said, will get you a similar reaction from trans believers. You could also argue that the trans activist anger against gender critical speakers is a kind of "jihad" with the former being the righteous "iman" and the latter being the contemptuous "kafir" or infidel. And this isn't all for the sake of having a belief that you dogmatically stick to and define your life around, it is for the sake of gaining political power, just like Mohammed and the first Muslims sought out to do 1,400 years ago by waging war against the polytheistic tribes that controlled Mecca and all other major trade routes in the middle east at the time.
If those sorts of things interest you, you could do worse than to read the Old Testament. Then you might like to look at the Inquisition and other massacres driven by religious enthusiasms of the day...and then you might well become interested in the nexus between religions, all religions, and political power right down to this day...and perhaps you will notice how the central tennets of "conservative" reactionary narratives on the populist networks are: Thou shalt bang on about "trans ideology" all day and all night. Thou shalt play the victim when people ask you why you are banging on about "trans Ideology" all day and all night. Thou shalt never address the moderate majority positions. Thou shalt shock thine enemy with drag queens in school rooms and men in women's sports. Thou shalt create division and disunity. Thou wilt be conquered.
Which brings me on to the subject of Islam. In my personal experience, I have found Muslims to be an overwhelmingly friendly people ( nobody does hospitality like a Muslim ) and they are more disciplined than most of their counterparts in modern Western secular societies. Their leaders however seem to see Islam as a useful strategy for ruling over their subjects by threats of violence and outright intolerance of any heretical thoughts: abhorrence of Liberalism and political ideologies which seek to promote social equality loosely defined as the Left. Which is why we in the Liberal Democracies sometimes known as the "Free World" of today's global hegemony have a responsibility to guard against populist narratives peddled against "The Left" and Liberals. Especially those who do so in a populist tabloid-style shock and horror manner such as we see increasingly on Sky News and GBN. Because, as they so often like to remind us, Freedom (Liberalism and egalitarian principles) is not Free.
But in the West at least, Muslims don't tend to go around trying to force non-Muslims to pretend they believe in the teachings of Islam. That is the crucial distinction between other religions and gender identity ideology. Proponents of the latter faith expect the rest of us to pretend we share their beliefs; to pretend that we too believe that gender is a spectrum, that male/female and woman/man are identity-based terms; to pretend that when we look at a man wearing a dress and heels, we see a woman, rather than a man trying to emulate women.
Main difference is that detransitioners run to conservatives who want us all off our medications even though almost all patients are benefitting. And these restrictions are done by law and at the point of a gun. Let's debate your freedoms and rights. If you win, you keep and if you lose, you get called mentally ill and put in an asylum. I wonder why there is pushback.
Excellent work. This clarified so much for me. Not only is ego not something to be overcome in this religion, it is to be vaunted. Individual self-creation in defiance of all limits, physical or social, is the central practice. Self is worshipped in this religion. Self is God, and if you question that authority you will feel the wrath. Even an experienced clinician, an adult, must affirm the words of a child. Those words are sacred gospel.
I also recommend the playlist "clipped: undue influence in the trans activist community" for an interesting break down of common cult techniques, and which ones apply to trans activism (according to a detransitioned person who used to be deep in it). on the channel: thoughts on things and stuff
Thanks so much for this recommendation. I'd listened to this detransitioner, Michelle, before, but didn't realize how extensive this particular long-form interview was. So many valuable insights. With luck it'll get more attention eventually. -
Any demand for belief in by definition unverifiables is absolutely, fully and finally inacceptable. How did it happen that people needed the Cass report on the awful effects of the attempted compelled belief before grasping how completely indefensible, illogical and damaging the whole absurd nonsense visibly was
The paradigm of “the sacred and the profane” was first suggested by Mircea Eliade, not Emile Durkheim. That said, she makes a strong case for viewing genderism (a.k.a. gender ideology) as a religion. If anyone asks me to introduce myself and state my pronouns, I will give my name and add “I decline to participate in that ritual” as to pronouns. Compelled speech is not free speech and therefore unconstitutional here in the U.S. In a public meeting we cannot be compelled to recite any one religious mantra. Decline to participate in that ritual.
interesting choice of word "ritual", just when I found out that the members of the band Ghost are huge T allies and their concerts are referred to as "rituals" where they waved the T flag although the band satirizes Christianity which is ironic
I'm going to watch the whole video because well I'm a trans person familiar with the more political trans people and I'm interested in other viewpoints. I think people should be allowed to debate these things. All I and lots of other trans people ask is that you respect us by calling us the name we tell you and if unclear, the pronouns we tell you (but you dont have to believe in anything or agree with me). Also if you slip up with it, it's fine, atleast you're trying. Besides that, it doesn't really matter to me what your views are. The big issues in relation to prisons and sport are seperate issues to me. I don't have the solution to that. The issue is is that its hard to debate gender in many forums because it connects so strongly to the people who are trans. I enjoyed this talk, very interesting. I think for some trans people, probably the loudest part, this is kind of true. I dont think people who are straight and aren't trans are boring, it just can be hard to relate to. I think biological sex is still important, there are just some of us that identify differently. It doesnt change us biologically but that doesn't mean our identities can't be respected. None of us want to infrige on women's rights. I think we just are going to have to be a bit more creative so that we can all be safe.
Wowww. I was watching a video on Title IX by the National Association of Scholars and the President and host mentioned Gender ideology gender apparatchik. I did a quick search in RUclips and found this video at the top of my search. Man, oh man, this presentation blew my mind and the link to the push for Title IX!
Does calling something a religion make it easier to dismiss or reject per se? No. (Although, as an anti-theist, I'd say it helps.) But I believe the move from the term 'theory' to 'ideology' is definitely warranted. A scientific theory is the strongest possible framework that explains and, importantly, makes accurate predictions about a phenomenon. Proponents of scientific theories seek out evidence and qualified criticism that would invalidate them. In the absence of that, the theory becomes more robust. I do not believe that gender identity ideology meets the threshold for scientific theory. I would very much welcome an evidence-based debate on that question.
I don't think I agree that all of the disciples of gender identity actually believe it's real, "whether it's real or not." Sometimes you just say the thing that your tribe has decided will allow you to keep drawing a check.
My religion is resistance to religions that benefit the priests of that religion like Rosblatt. I don't understand why people give them the time of day.
Religion, new age and trans all have the same aim, to be god or a master which the knowledge of god passes through. They all try to find their true self, their hidden self. The way to do this, religion has scripture, new age has meditation, trans has activism. Religion has soul, new age has soul / higher self, trans has gender. Religion has god, new age has source and trans have men / women. The spiritual realm in religion is heaven, new age its planes of existence e.g. astral and trans it's society. Religion has priests, new age has gurus and trans has acedemics. To be knowledgeable about a subject you need information,. You gain information you go into places where this information is held. An example of this is women's toilets,. women's sports, this cultural, historical and cultural knowledge gains you access to womanhood.
All the people who who endorse and become campaigners for other people's ideas and are prepared to do anything to achieve them despite knowing it is wrong should be forced to watch the Jim Jones documentary.
Both informative and funny (another thing religion abhors - having fun poked at it). Glad to see the women of Ireland speaking before Helen McEntee has you silenced 🤐for heresy.
Wow those points came thick and fast. This movement makes so much sense through this perspective of religion/cult. I have been toying with calling these people transhumanists not transgender. This might have tipped me over the edge. The new surgeries such as vagina preserving phalloplasty and phallus preserving vaginoplasty can't be anything else (I still can't believe those are real).
@@shonabeggs4640 Is that right?! Don't worry I'm sure they've done extensive research into the long term effects of smoking while having an artifical penis and natural vagina and vice versa. It's not like they're just inventing surgeries as their going along with no idea what the consequences will be.... I keep pinching myself but I don't wake up
@@Kenuda I didn't say having a surgery equalled transhumanist but clearly there are links to the transgender movement. How do you explain the examples I gave above otherwise?
This is a very convincing & effective application of Niall Ferguson's Applied History technique. Essentially: to use past events & phenomena (e&p) as a guide for the present ie. to predict how current e&p will pan out, the impact they will have & how to deal with them. Gender Ideology does closely fit the pattern of religions established in the (distant & recent) past. So treating it as an intolerant political religion (cult?) & its followers as (potentially) devout or even zealotic adherants is a fitting & practical model to use out there in the world - as these examples demonstrate: Proceed with tact & caution, but don't be railroded: Would you try to convince an Imam a Catholic Father, or any other priest that their religion is untrue? - Not at all or only with care & respect. Would you accept the sacrements (eg. pronoun declaration) & beliefs (eg. a gendered soul) of a religion you don't adhere to? - No or only under duress if forced to. Would you participate in the sacrements of a religion you don't adhere to? - Passively - Yes -- eg. attend a wedding or funeral out of friendship & respect - But, note, this does give a degree of endorsement -- OR use someone's prefered non standard pronouns? - Yes - this amounts to polite passive participation. These need public declaration to alert non adherants to this doctrine ie. that the person wants to be treated as an exception & addressed in a non standard way. - Actively - No -- eg. take part in Christian communion - this is an act of faith with no clear proof - require's belief in the doctrine of trans-substantiation -- OR be compelled to declare your own standard pronouns (eg. before a business meeting)? - No - this amounts to compelled active participation in a religeous ritual + it is unnecessary as there is no exception to alert anyone to. Would you accept, without question, religious procelitisation to (eg. manipulative preaching) or indoctrination of (eg. attempted conversion): - children (No - stranger danger principle) - teenagers (No - autoritative parent model) - young adults (No - guiding mentor model + alert to consequence) Especially so for your own kids, extended family & friends kids. - the degree of intervention justified depends on your closeness to & responsibility for those kids. Would you accept or trust advice, without question, from an authority figure - eg. a teacher, or from a qualified expert eg. a doctor?: - which could be harmful to or have significant consequence for you, your children or others (eg. any kind of gender trasitioning)? -- No - you, not they, will have to bear the consequences - OR who acts dogmatically or suspiciously? -- No - the stranger danger principle again And so on.
Religion is a human invented fiction, as you describe. There is not one human in this universe who owns a patent or right over the existence of a human being outside of their own existence. Respect all human beings for who they tell you they are. Religion is a human invented fiction.
"Gender" is EXACTLY as much of a religion, as any other. -It has a 100% identical basis in empirical evidence (ie. ZERO empirical evidence. There is NO empirical evidence for sex-independent "gender", any more than evidence for "sin" or "chi energy") -it has a 100% identical standard of evidence to EVERY other religion (a standard where "the REAL truth" is defined solely by "but it FEEELS true, to me", in open defiance of empirical evidence). -100% faith-based. "trans-women ARE women" is a claim in open denial of ALL empirical evidence, which can ONLY be "taken on faith"; You cannot accept the claim as """truth""" WITHOUT taking it on faith (same as the core claims of ALL religions- "Jesus died for your sins", or whatever else) -it is EXACTLY as supernatural as any other religion; The claim that you can be "non-binary", or that a man can be "REALLY a woman", in whatever pseudo-spiritual, "male body, but a female SOUL" sense you believe in, is EXACTLY as supernatural as the claim that "Jesus died for your sins", or that "Mohammed is the final prophet of Allah".All the above are faith-based, unfalsifiable claims of LITERAL MAGIC, totally divorced from evidence-based reality. -your "gender" is EXACTLY as devoid of evidence that it even exists, as "the soul", or "Chakras" or "sin"... -in fact, your "gender" is FUNCTIONALLY IDENTICAL to "your soul"- A completely evidence-free thing which a certain religion claims (with no evidence) is inside EVERY person, as the seat of the "REAL identity", your "TRUE self"- And which is accepted as "the REAL truth", solely on the strength of "but it FEEELS true, to me". And which believers claim is a source of FAR GREATER TRUTH than mere, trivial, objective empirical evidence. Your "gender" IS "your soul", with a few minor tweaks (NONE involving ACTUAL EVIDENCE...) -Like ALL religions, it claims that "accepting our 100% evidence-free claims makes you MORE moral". -it claims that REJECTING ithe religion's 100% evidence-free supernatural claims, makes you inherently IMMORAL and a bad person (or "a hateful trqnsphobic bigot", in the religion's own language; Functionally 100% identical to calling a non-believer "a godless sinner") "Gender" ideology is OBJECTIVELY a (non-theistic) religion- And one of THE MOST AUTHORITARIAN RELIGIONS in the modern era, openly trying (and often succeeding) to use state violence/threat of violence, to enforce 100% evididence-free religious dogma. For example, the Norwegian woman currently in prison, for speaking objective truths that contradict the religion's dogmas (sayinh that men can't be lesbians). Or in my own country, I risk prison, if I refuse to address religious believers, in accordance with their evidence-defying, 100% faith-based belief that it's possible for a man to be "REALLY a woman" (in whatever mystical sense). >"Just accept people for WHO THEY TELL YOU they are!!" Muslims tell you that they are THE ONLY people who don't deserve eternal torture, for their defiance of Allah. Christians tell you that they are the bearers of The Truth, that will save your eternal soul. So sorry, but NO. I care about ACTUAL, EVIDENCE-BASED TRUTH. I couldn't give a crap what the "true, FOR ME", "personal truth" of religious zealots is. I DON'T CARE if you "identify as" being God's chosen messenger, or being "a man trapped in a woman's body", or if you "identify as" Jesus of fvcking Nazareth... I care about WHAT IS ACTUALLY TRUE, IN THE REAL WORLD... Sorry buddy, but you're JUST ANOTHER RELIGIOUS AUTHORITARIAN, like all the others... (...except MORE authoritarian than 99% of religions; Even the most nutcase evangelical Christian won't feel entitled to IIRREVERSANLY CHEMICALLY MUTILATE HEALTHY CHILDREN, justified only by their faith-based religious beliefs... Yet this entitlement is mainstream, in YOUR religion)
Gender identy,personality, what's the difference? Also MAPS ideology,they don't liketheP word..is this a gender identity if not why not? Falsibility by experiment is..science... ....gender identity or a sexed soul is not falsifiable
I love when you people immediately resort to bringing in pedophiles. Why would MAP be a gender identity? Even MAPs would tell you that it's a sexuality. Stop trying to scare people by bringing up pedophiles whenever you can find the slightest reason to.
Don't leave out the US and its reverence of capitalism, 'freedom', and violence, from that list of societies that have demanded conformity through history.
Religion is a belief with no empirical evidence (eg, that a biologcal man can be "REALLY a woman", in some mystical sense), with supernatural elements (eg, belief that speaking the magical spell "I identify as a woman", via mystical unseen forces AKA "magic", transforms the essense of a person, from male to female, entitling access to ALL female spaces, usually off-limits to men. Or belief that a human can be "Non-binary", and neither male NOR female). It is shared among a group of a fellow-belivers, who see themselves as inherently morally superior, for accepting these evidence-free, magical beliefs. And it deems non-believers, who REJECT the group's magical beliefs, as IMMORAL (or "sinful", "heathen", "transphobic bigots"- Different religions have different terms for the same thing) [Also, often (but not always) religions have a fixation with mutilating (surgically OR chemically) the genitals of perfectly healthy children, justified ONLY by evidence-free, faith-based magical beliefs. Unlike the above traits, this isn't a DEFINING trait of religions. It's just a pattern, common to believrrs in "gender" and other religions...]
@@RenegadeContext It's really not. Transhumanism is a belief that technology is the future of mankind, and that becoming machines is the next evolution. That has nothing to do with being transgender.
@@Kenudait has a lot to do with transhumanism, it's using technology to tame and subordinate our biology to our desires, to be stronger, to be faster, smarter, to change sex, to live forever. The leading figures in the transhumanism movement are two married transwomen, (one of them is Martine Rothblatt who is mentioned in this talk,) they are the two that founded the transhuman religion Terrasem. There are many more transgender ppl high up in the movement. Read Martine Rothblatts book From Transgender to Transhumanism - A Manifesto On The Freedom Of Form. The transhumanists believe transgenderism is a step on the way, why don't you? Ultimately though transhumanism would bring about a post sex/gender world if we could really be "freed" from our biology.
This is ridiculous. Trans people comprise 0.6% of the population. Their lives are so difficult that half of trans youth report contemplating suicide in the past year. She cites some of the most extreme voices as representative. All most peole want is acceptance for who they are-you don’t have to believe anything except that their experience is different from yours. There have been gender non-conforming people throughout history-they just weren’t topic of obsessive public discourse.
She is not questioning the existence of gender dysphoria, it is real for you & many - she says this right at the start. She just analyses features of religion as an ideology
That's the trouble with not actually LISTENING to what a person says, because if you HAD, you would have realised that you were wrong in your ignorant assumptions about her. At NO POINT did she say that gender/sex dysphoria doesn't exist. Her talk is about gender IDENTITY. THAT concept is very much a belief and is not established in science. Also a belief, is the idea that a FEELING, rather than your body, determines whether you are a girl/woman or a boy/man. 'Woman' has always denoted 'female', and femaleness is determined by physicality, not by thoughts or emotions. No one ever truly changes sex because it's medically impossible, and sex dysphoria never makes a person the sex that they are not.
I don't understand why you think this is Fascistic? I think it's healthy to be able to discuss and debate this issue. The idea of Gender identity should be up for philosophical questions.
@@platonkarataev550 do you really think this is just philosophical discussion, just asking questions that won't have repercussions in the real world such as literally taking away people's human rights. because that is what is happening. that is why it's fascism
There is plenty of room for nuance conversations about gender And it's not as though all trans people feel think and believe all the same things about gender, That's why it's not an ideology
I was born into and raised in a cult for the first 23 years of my life. 16 years ago, when I first became aware of the transgender movement, I recognized cult-like aspects to it.
Thats it then.
Case closed. Thank god for you!
I know. I was in a religious cult myself and recognize the signs.
A cult is an organized group whose purpose is to dominate cult members through psychological manipulation and pressure strategies. 1 Cults are usually headed by a powerful leader who isolates members from the rest of society. Some individuals who join cults remain lifelong members.
Calling those who accept the consensus of the scientific community "a religious cult" sounds like projection to me.
It's like a young earth creationists saying "it takes more FAITH to believe in evolution than the Bible"
Faith is not required. Obedience to any authority is not required. While I personally consider faith an unreliable pathway to truth, faith in a god or belief in an afterlife can be consistent with acceptance of scientific observations.
To put it very clearly, NO the beliefs you call "gender ideology" being understood and accepted is NOT a cult or group of cults. You simply disagree, and feel better about disagreeing if you think of your opponents as religious or in a cult.
I wasn't raised into a religion, but I can Google the definition. Every claim the scientific community reaches a consensus on is demonstrable to the scientifically literate.
Ugly women are still women.
Tall women are also women.
Trans women are women.
Because women are adult female people.
Yes, that does mean women who are trans are female. Seems unintuitive doesn't it?
If you Google "anti gender movement Wikipedia" you can read about what you are self-indoctrinating yourself into. You can read about who coined "gender ideology" if you go looking.
The experts are right on this topic.
The scientific consensus agrees.
You are watching these sorts of videos for a reason, and that reason isn't because you want to be informed. You could Google what I suggested if that were your goal.
That makes 4 of us then. It took me nearly 4 years with at psychologist to get deprogrammed but I don’t think I ever recovered fully because knowing that the human mind is capable of believing literally anything no matter how far removed from reality it might be is hard (or perhaps impossible) to recover from. I don’t know any trans people so why should I care. It’s got nothing to do with me. It recently dawned on me that having been brainwashed myself is the reason why this cult affects me as deeply as it does. At least I wasn’t physically mutilated in the bargain. Man, those poor children are in for a rough ride.
When there was one or two per year that "transitioned", I felt sorry for them
and thought that "transition" perhaps was the best path for them.
(I know of one who had surgery in 1967 (57 years ago - you can imagine
what interviews and tests that person had to go through
to be allowed being castrated and operated on!) who has regretted it
- it is publicised and has been turned into a play and a film.)
But once more and more people, and completely different persons
compared to the original patient group, started to want to "transition",
it was obvious that it was some kind of mass hysteria.
In the film What is woman The various professors seem to deny the idea of truth,they keep on referring to "your truth or "my truth". This chanting of sacred slogans is another example of religious behaviour...trans women are women.
Isn’t the implication that there is no objective truth less, not more, religious? In religion, there is one objective truth.
@@katieandnick4113 which is why there are so many different ones right?
You’ll are talking about Postmodernism which qualifies truth based on perspective and historical context🤓
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Yes, but it's a little more complicated.
You see, all religions hold there is an objective truth, but some are more candid about it than others. Some they openly proclaim that there is objective truth, and they know it 100%. Some will say that there is objective truth, but admit it's possible that due to Man's limitations we do not fully understand the whole of that truth. And some will say there is no objective truth... But if you aren't part of their religion, you are obviously ignorant of the "secret" truth behind the truth.
It's also not necessarily a feature of the religion itself as it is of the adherent, though certain religions tend perpetuate more of one than the others.
@@katieandnick4113no, wrong
This was such a clever talk - you will no doubt offend many ideologues - they’re offended if you simply attempt to start a conversation. ❤
32 years ago I moved out of my oppressive home town filled with religious right wingers to live in San Francisco, only to find that I was surrounded by people who had formed their own oppressive beliefs and communities around those beliefs, but worse. Their beliefs were being taught at the university I went to. And much like the church I grew up in, I went along with it while I was forced to, but knew my reality. These true believers didn’t see themselves as “religious” and didn’t understand that it was ok for others not to share their beliefs. It’s really sad how far and wide these particular beliefs have spread since my university days. But people are finally realizing the connection between these delusional beliefs and religion, and it’s great!
A master class on how to deliver a talk that is concise, engaging, entertaining and absolutely terrifying! Thank you.
Really good assessment of what is going on with this ideology. TransPride flags in my office building. It is assumed we are all followers of this trans ideology. It’s even more worrying that so many gay people are supporting it also.
And so many biological women support it too. Ultimate male domination. (I'm talking stereotypical male. Most actual males are very reasonable ime.
I'm a lesbian woman and, like the overwhelming majority of gay/lesbian people who realize our "community" has been hijacked by zealots, I do NOT support transgender ideology.
I believe most gay people do not believe in it. They/we are bullied by it and allow ourselves to be outspoken by a vocal minority.
They're all over the children's library this summer. Not the adults... but then my local council has superimposed the trans rainbow flag over its logo. I didn't know this until recently, or I'd not have been surprised.
I can't give numbers or percentages but a lot of lot of gay people are coming to our senses. Lesbians in particular have been pushed too far and are waking up, as we've had our rights and very definition taken away. And boy are we pissed off.
This talk was very helpful in helping me understand what is going on with transgender ideology. Yes. I am profane.
Profane'= Present in my mind. It is only by staying Present that I can stay calm enough to enjoy life.
Meditation helps.
Thank you for this info❤
From the cult leader to the salesman, the politician to the employer, the means, strategies, and tactics to get people to comply remains the same.
As a biologist I do wish people wouldn't use the terms MtoF or FtoM because its impossible we cannot change sex however much cosmetic surgery we have. Could use masculine to feminine I suppose and vice versa.??
We can't even create any functioning reproductive organ from scratch, neither testes nor ovaries. This whole thing emanates from political science, not from real science ...
I like TIM- trans identified male. I haven’t heard but I expect the opposite roukd be a TIF.
MtF & FtM have always been used for transsexuals and we never had a problem before this mess. They know they aren't literally women or think their biology has been changed. They've already been hurt by having their identity taken away and their medical care made vulnerable. Let's not take more of their language away. Besides, I think this is the least of our problems with the war on language that they're waging. It would be awesome if people would get this upset about the way they're redefining lesbians. You all can actually help us if you speak out on THIS. And it will help the larger fight over the definition of woman. Young lesbians are being told by "trans women", who have had no surgery, may not even be on hormones, that they must "get over their genital biases". Many have been guilt tripped, manipulated and raped. This is where the fight is because this is the ultimate misogynistic homophobic gaslighting there ever has been.
Now we all know you're a biologist. Mission accomplished.
This assumes that a man is masculine, and a woman is feminine, doesn't it? And it assumes that when a man puts on a dress and lippy, he becomes feminine. Personally I always try to use these terms as little as possible. They seem pretty meaningless to me. Just 'men' or 'a subgroup of men' or 'men who claim to be women' will do, imo.
I am getting two of the books she referenced. I find it all so mind-bending and magnet in what it means.
Hi, what books did she mention?
The first is A James Gregor: on political religions... Listening again for them. I'll post the next in a sec
The other is The Golden Bough by James George Frazer. The first one doesn't have an A in the name btw, I misheard.
@@ahmadalalifbooks there for you ^^^
I love Colette's ideas and personality. Wish there were more of her on RUclips.
There are some more but you have to search actively! They won‘t be suggested to you, think about why, it‘s obvious;)
This is not a religion
Excellent! I would love to hear her speak longer on this topic, in more detail.
I hope she's written this down for publication
I did reply with a link but it's disappeared. It's on her substack.
@@catwoman7462 Found it, fantastic, thanks
I finally came to this conclusion a while ago, and I'm just trying to find someone who thinks like me....I ended up finding someone who explains it way better than I could. well done
Your voice is incredibly important right now. Not just for bringing awareness to the harms being done by the gender industry but also insight into the emotional and physical conditions that detransitioners have to live with everyday. This is a new frontier and you have a difficult task in front of you.
Fantastic talk
Excellent presentation 💜
To be fair, just because that one particular Muslim da'i who invited her to Islam was polite, doesn't mean that the greater Muslim population or Muslim heads would engage so respectfully with her. Islam, by it's own history and goals of it's warlord founder, is an imperialist religion/ideology. She goes on to talk about "political religions" as a separate beast from the run-of-the-mill religions we usually think about, yet seemingly doesn't know enough about Islam to point out that it is one of the first mainstream political religions/ideology and would make a very good comparison for her points.
For example, you literally can't make fun of Mohammed or point out what a horrible figure he was without being threatened, pointing out contradictions in Islam and the Quran will get you the same reaction in the Muslim world, the same way making fun of figures in the trans community or pointing out contradictions, like Colette said, will get you a similar reaction from trans believers. You could also argue that the trans activist anger against gender critical speakers is a kind of "jihad" with the former being the righteous "iman" and the latter being the contemptuous "kafir" or infidel. And this isn't all for the sake of having a belief that you dogmatically stick to and define your life around, it is for the sake of gaining political power, just like Mohammed and the first Muslims sought out to do 1,400 years ago by waging war against the polytheistic tribes that controlled Mecca and all other major trade routes in the middle east at the time.
If those sorts of things interest you, you could do worse than to read the Old Testament. Then you might like to look at the Inquisition and other massacres driven by religious enthusiasms of the day...and then you might well become interested in the nexus between religions, all religions, and political power right down to this day...and perhaps you will notice how the central tennets of "conservative" reactionary narratives on the populist networks are:
Thou shalt bang on about "trans ideology" all day and all night.
Thou shalt play the victim when people ask you why you are banging on about "trans Ideology" all day and all night.
Thou shalt never address the moderate majority positions.
Thou shalt shock thine enemy with drag queens in school rooms and men in women's sports.
Thou shalt create division and disunity.
Thou wilt be conquered.
Which brings me on to the subject of Islam. In my personal experience, I have found Muslims to be an overwhelmingly friendly people ( nobody does hospitality like a Muslim ) and they are more disciplined than most of their counterparts in modern Western secular societies. Their leaders however seem to see Islam as a useful strategy for ruling over their subjects by threats of violence and outright intolerance of any heretical thoughts: abhorrence of Liberalism and political ideologies which seek to promote social equality loosely defined as the Left. Which is why we in the Liberal Democracies sometimes known as the "Free World" of today's global hegemony have a responsibility to guard against populist narratives peddled against "The Left" and Liberals. Especially those who do so in a populist tabloid-style shock and horror manner such as we see increasingly on Sky News and GBN.
Because, as they so often like to remind us, Freedom (Liberalism and egalitarian principles) is not Free.
But in the West at least, Muslims don't tend to go around trying to force non-Muslims to pretend they believe in the teachings of Islam.
That is the crucial distinction between other religions and gender identity ideology. Proponents of the latter faith expect the rest of us to pretend we share their beliefs; to pretend that we too believe that gender is a spectrum, that male/female and woman/man are identity-based terms; to pretend that when we look at a man wearing a dress and heels, we see a woman, rather than a man trying to emulate women.
Main difference is that detransitioners run to conservatives who want us all off our medications even though almost all patients are benefitting. And these restrictions are done by law and at the point of a gun. Let's debate your freedoms and rights. If you win, you keep and if you lose, you get called mentally ill and put in an asylum. I wonder why there is pushback.
Women are second class citizens in the Muslim world. Maybe third class…
Fantastic talk. Well done Colette. We need more of these conversations in Ireland.
Yesss, i was waiting for this talk to be published here! ❤
Wow, what a parallel! Reminds me of Nazi government taking over church in Germany and becoming a political religion. Very good video, thank you!
Excellent work. This clarified so much for me. Not only is ego not something to be overcome in this religion, it is to be vaunted. Individual self-creation in defiance of all limits, physical or social, is the central practice. Self is worshipped in this religion. Self is God, and if you question that authority you will feel the wrath. Even an experienced clinician, an adult, must affirm the words of a child. Those words are sacred gospel.
I also recommend the playlist "clipped: undue influence in the trans activist community" for an interesting break down of common cult techniques, and which ones apply to trans activism (according to a detransitioned person who used to be deep in it). on the channel: thoughts on things and stuff
Thanks so much for this recommendation. I'd listened to this detransitioner, Michelle, before, but didn't realize how extensive this particular long-form interview was. So many valuable insights. With luck it'll get more attention eventually. -
That was a brilliant talk 👍🏻
Any demand for belief in by definition unverifiables is absolutely, fully and finally inacceptable.
How did it happen that people needed the Cass report on the awful effects of the attempted compelled belief before grasping how completely indefensible, illogical and damaging the whole absurd nonsense visibly was
”Normalizing the deviant by demonizing the prevailing is the marginalized's method of self-justification”!
Brilliant presentation
This is brilliant. Scary! I am now "genderfuck"
The paradigm of “the sacred and the profane” was first suggested by Mircea Eliade, not Emile Durkheim. That said, she makes a strong case for viewing genderism (a.k.a. gender ideology) as a religion. If anyone asks me to introduce myself and state my pronouns, I will give my name and add “I decline to participate in that ritual” as to pronouns. Compelled speech is not free speech and therefore unconstitutional here in the U.S. In a public meeting we cannot be compelled to recite any one religious mantra. Decline to participate in that ritual.
interesting choice of word "ritual", just when I found out that the members of the band Ghost are huge T allies and their concerts are referred to as "rituals" where they waved the T flag although the band satirizes Christianity which is ironic
Brilliant talk
I love the humility of this one. It's just pure academic curiosity and the result is gold. "That wasn't meant to be a joke" 😁😁😁
Almost without ego, one might say 😂
Amazing
Just tickling the algorithm 🪶🪶 🐿.
How all this transgender movement is not regressive?
Pride Month is Ramadan for Rainbow Alphabet People
I'm going to watch the whole video because well I'm a trans person familiar with the more political trans people and I'm interested in other viewpoints.
I think people should be allowed to debate these things. All I and lots of other trans people ask is that you respect us by calling us the name we tell you and if unclear, the pronouns we tell you (but you dont have to believe in anything or agree with me). Also if you slip up with it, it's fine, atleast you're trying.
Besides that, it doesn't really matter to me what your views are. The big issues in relation to prisons and sport are seperate issues to me. I don't have the solution to that.
The issue is is that its hard to debate gender in many forums because it connects so strongly to the people who are trans.
I enjoyed this talk, very interesting. I think for some trans people, probably the loudest part, this is kind of true. I dont think people who are straight and aren't trans are boring, it just can be hard to relate to.
I think biological sex is still important, there are just some of us that identify differently. It doesnt change us biologically but that doesn't mean our identities can't be respected. None of us want to infrige on women's rights. I think we just are going to have to be a bit more creative so that we can all be safe.
This was just brilliant! Thanks 👍
Wowww. I was watching a video on Title IX by the National Association of Scholars and the President and host mentioned Gender ideology gender apparatchik. I did a quick search in RUclips and found this video at the top of my search. Man, oh man, this presentation blew my mind and the link to the push for Title IX!
Does calling something a religion make it easier to dismiss or reject per se? No. (Although, as an anti-theist, I'd say it helps.) But I believe the move from the term 'theory' to 'ideology' is definitely warranted. A scientific theory is the strongest possible framework that explains and, importantly, makes accurate predictions about a phenomenon. Proponents of scientific theories seek out evidence and qualified criticism that would invalidate them. In the absence of that, the theory becomes more robust. I do not believe that gender identity ideology meets the threshold for scientific theory. I would very much welcome an evidence-based debate on that question.
Good talk. It needs a proper title.
I see the cultists are in with their bullshit, proving the lady's point.
I don't think I agree that all of the disciples of gender identity actually believe it's real, "whether it's real or not." Sometimes you just say the thing that your tribe has decided will allow you to keep drawing a check.
That's a good point. So much of it reminds me of Scientology.
My religion is resistance to religions that benefit the priests of that religion like Rosblatt. I don't understand why people give them the time of day.
Religion, new age and trans all have the same aim, to be god or a master which the knowledge of god passes through.
They all try to find their true self, their hidden self.
The way to do this, religion has scripture, new age has meditation, trans has activism.
Religion has soul, new age has soul / higher self, trans has gender.
Religion has god, new age has source and trans have men / women.
The spiritual realm in religion is heaven, new age its planes of existence e.g. astral and trans it's society.
Religion has priests, new age has gurus and trans has acedemics.
To be knowledgeable about a subject you need information,. You gain information you go into places where this information is held. An example of this is women's toilets,. women's sports, this cultural, historical and cultural knowledge gains you access to womanhood.
YES!
What are the rights of Initiation? TikTok? ChatRooms?
I think the word she was looking for was, 'cult'.
Great talk,
Check out the work by Sierra Weir aka Exulansic
All the people who who endorse and become campaigners for other people's ideas and are prepared to do anything to achieve them despite knowing it is wrong should be forced to watch the Jim Jones documentary.
Both informative and funny (another thing religion abhors - having fun poked at it). Glad to see the women of Ireland speaking before Helen McEntee has you silenced 🤐for heresy.
Wow those points came thick and fast. This movement makes so much sense through this perspective of religion/cult.
I have been toying with calling these people transhumanists not transgender. This might have tipped me over the edge. The new surgeries such as vagina preserving phalloplasty and phallus preserving vaginoplasty can't be anything else (I still can't believe those are real).
Dear lord, I hoped you were making this up. 😮 *Edit , at least they have to be nonsmokers, that's good right 😂fkg ell, beam me up Scotty.
@@shonabeggs4640 Is that right?!
Don't worry I'm sure they've done extensive research into the long term effects of smoking while having an artifical penis and natural vagina and vice versa.
It's not like they're just inventing surgeries as their going along with no idea what the consequences will be....
I keep pinching myself but I don't wake up
Transhumanism is very different to being transgender. Having a surgery does not make one transhumanist.
@@Kenuda I didn't say having a surgery equalled transhumanist but clearly there are links to the transgender movement. How do you explain the examples I gave above otherwise?
This is a very convincing & effective application of Niall Ferguson's Applied History technique.
Essentially: to use past events & phenomena (e&p) as a guide for the present ie. to predict how current e&p will pan out, the impact they will have & how to deal with them.
Gender Ideology does closely fit the pattern of religions established in the (distant & recent) past.
So treating it as an intolerant political religion (cult?) & its followers as (potentially) devout or even zealotic adherants is a fitting & practical model to use out there in the world - as these examples demonstrate:
Proceed with tact & caution, but don't be railroded:
Would you try to convince an Imam a Catholic Father, or any other priest that their religion is untrue? - Not at all or only with care & respect.
Would you accept the sacrements (eg. pronoun declaration) & beliefs (eg. a gendered soul) of a religion you don't adhere to? - No or only under duress if forced to.
Would you participate in the sacrements of a religion you don't adhere to?
- Passively - Yes
-- eg. attend a wedding or funeral out of friendship & respect - But, note, this does give a degree of endorsement
-- OR use someone's prefered non standard pronouns? - Yes - this amounts to polite passive participation. These need public declaration to alert non adherants to this doctrine ie. that the person wants to be treated as an exception & addressed in a non standard way.
- Actively - No
-- eg. take part in Christian communion - this is an act of faith with no clear proof - require's belief in the doctrine of trans-substantiation
-- OR be compelled to declare your own standard pronouns (eg. before a business meeting)? - No - this amounts to compelled active participation in a religeous ritual + it is unnecessary as there is no exception to alert anyone to.
Would you accept, without question, religious procelitisation to (eg. manipulative preaching) or indoctrination of (eg. attempted conversion):
- children (No - stranger danger principle)
- teenagers (No - autoritative parent model)
- young adults (No - guiding mentor model + alert to consequence)
Especially so for your own kids, extended family & friends kids.
- the degree of intervention justified depends on your closeness to & responsibility for those kids.
Would you accept or trust advice, without question, from an authority figure - eg. a teacher, or from a qualified expert eg. a doctor?:
- which could be harmful to or have significant consequence for you, your children or others (eg. any kind of gender trasitioning)?
-- No - you, not they, will have to bear the consequences
- OR who acts dogmatically or suspiciously?
-- No - the stranger danger principle again
And so on.
Brilliant.
Religion is a human invented fiction, as you describe. There is not one human in this universe who owns a patent or right over the existence of a human being outside of their own existence. Respect all human beings for who they tell you they are. Religion is a human invented fiction.
Religion is a male construct.
"Gender" is EXACTLY as much of a religion, as any other.
-It has a 100% identical basis in empirical evidence (ie. ZERO empirical evidence. There is NO empirical evidence for sex-independent "gender", any more than evidence for "sin" or "chi energy")
-it has a 100% identical standard of evidence to EVERY other religion (a standard where "the REAL truth" is defined solely by "but it FEEELS true, to me", in open defiance of empirical evidence).
-100% faith-based. "trans-women ARE women" is a claim in open denial of ALL empirical evidence, which can ONLY be "taken on faith"; You cannot accept the claim as """truth""" WITHOUT taking it on faith (same as the core claims of ALL religions- "Jesus died for your sins", or whatever else)
-it is EXACTLY as supernatural as any other religion; The claim that you can be "non-binary", or that a man can be "REALLY a woman", in whatever pseudo-spiritual, "male body, but a female SOUL" sense you believe in, is EXACTLY as supernatural as the claim that "Jesus died for your sins", or that "Mohammed is the final prophet of Allah".All the above are faith-based, unfalsifiable claims of LITERAL MAGIC, totally divorced from evidence-based reality.
-your "gender" is EXACTLY as devoid of evidence that it even exists, as "the soul", or "Chakras" or "sin"...
-in fact, your "gender" is FUNCTIONALLY IDENTICAL to "your soul"- A completely evidence-free thing which a certain religion claims (with no evidence) is inside EVERY person, as the seat of the "REAL identity", your "TRUE self"- And which is accepted as "the REAL truth", solely on the strength of "but it FEEELS true, to me". And which believers claim is a source of FAR GREATER TRUTH than mere, trivial, objective empirical evidence.
Your "gender" IS "your soul", with a few minor tweaks (NONE involving ACTUAL EVIDENCE...)
-Like ALL religions, it claims that "accepting our 100% evidence-free claims makes you MORE moral".
-it claims that REJECTING ithe religion's 100% evidence-free supernatural claims, makes you inherently IMMORAL and a bad person (or "a hateful trqnsphobic bigot", in the religion's own language; Functionally 100% identical to calling a non-believer "a godless sinner")
"Gender" ideology is OBJECTIVELY a (non-theistic) religion- And one of THE MOST AUTHORITARIAN RELIGIONS in the modern era, openly trying (and often succeeding) to use state violence/threat of violence, to enforce 100% evididence-free religious dogma. For example, the Norwegian woman currently in prison, for speaking objective truths that contradict the religion's dogmas (sayinh that men can't be lesbians). Or in my own country, I risk prison, if I refuse to address religious believers, in accordance with their evidence-defying, 100% faith-based belief that it's possible for a man to be "REALLY a woman" (in whatever mystical sense).
>"Just accept people for WHO THEY TELL YOU they are!!"
Muslims tell you that they are THE ONLY people who don't deserve eternal torture, for their defiance of Allah.
Christians tell you that they are the bearers of The Truth, that will save your eternal soul.
So sorry, but NO.
I care about ACTUAL, EVIDENCE-BASED TRUTH. I couldn't give a crap what the "true, FOR ME", "personal truth" of religious zealots is. I DON'T CARE if you "identify as" being God's chosen messenger, or being "a man trapped in a woman's body", or if you "identify as" Jesus of fvcking Nazareth... I care about WHAT IS ACTUALLY TRUE, IN THE REAL WORLD...
Sorry buddy, but you're JUST ANOTHER RELIGIOUS AUTHORITARIAN, like all the others...
(...except MORE authoritarian than 99% of religions; Even the most nutcase evangelical Christian won't feel entitled to IIRREVERSANLY CHEMICALLY MUTILATE HEALTHY CHILDREN, justified only by their faith-based religious beliefs... Yet this entitlement is mainstream, in YOUR religion)
She is edging around the truth here. She needs to step back and ask, Who? And Why?
Gender identy,personality, what's the difference? Also MAPS ideology,they don't liketheP word..is this a gender identity if not why not?
Falsibility by experiment is..science... ....gender identity or a sexed soul is not falsifiable
They want to be represented on that ridiculous flag and be seen as a legal sexuality.
I love when you people immediately resort to bringing in pedophiles. Why would MAP be a gender identity? Even MAPs would tell you that it's a sexuality.
Stop trying to scare people by bringing up pedophiles whenever you can find the slightest reason to.
Don't leave out the US and its reverence of capitalism, 'freedom', and violence, from that list of societies that have demanded conformity through history.
MASCULINITY AND FEMININITY IN EXTREME FEW CASES CAN BE DIFFERENT TO BIOLOGICAL SEX BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE A MAN A WOMAN
James Lyndsay RUclips videos are good on this subject.
Cult she is talking cult
Wow. I really hope you're wrong....
Cheers. More a cult mate
Can't define religion, eh. It can be anything. These are the speakers words and not mine.
Religion is a belief with no empirical evidence (eg, that a biologcal man can be "REALLY a woman", in some mystical sense), with supernatural elements (eg, belief that speaking the magical spell "I identify as a woman", via mystical unseen forces AKA "magic", transforms the essense of a person, from male to female, entitling access to ALL female spaces, usually off-limits to men. Or belief that a human can be "Non-binary", and neither male NOR female).
It is shared among a group of a fellow-belivers, who see themselves as inherently morally superior, for accepting these evidence-free, magical beliefs. And it deems non-believers, who REJECT the group's magical beliefs, as IMMORAL (or "sinful", "heathen", "transphobic bigots"- Different religions have different terms for the same thing)
[Also, often (but not always) religions have a fixation with mutilating (surgically OR chemically) the genitals of perfectly healthy children, justified ONLY by evidence-free, faith-based magical beliefs. Unlike the above traits, this isn't a DEFINING trait of religions. It's just a pattern, common to believrrs in "gender" and other religions...]
I expected to hear more about transgender ideology not transhumanism. I feel catfished.
It's the same thing
@@RenegadeContext It's really not. Transhumanism is a belief that technology is the future of mankind, and that becoming machines is the next evolution. That has nothing to do with being transgender.
@@Kenudait has a lot to do with transhumanism, it's using technology to tame and subordinate our biology to our desires, to be stronger, to be faster, smarter, to change sex, to live forever.
The leading figures in the transhumanism movement are two married transwomen, (one of them is Martine Rothblatt who is mentioned in this talk,) they are the two that founded the transhuman religion Terrasem. There are many more transgender ppl high up in the movement.
Read Martine Rothblatts book From Transgender to Transhumanism - A Manifesto On The Freedom Of Form.
The transhumanists believe transgenderism is a step on the way, why don't you?
Ultimately though transhumanism would bring about a post sex/gender world if we could really be "freed" from our biology.
NOPE NOPE NOPE --It is a #CUT HUGE DIFFEFRENCE
This is ridiculous. Trans people comprise 0.6% of the population. Their lives are so difficult that half of trans youth report contemplating suicide in the past year. She cites some of the most extreme voices as representative. All most peole want is acceptance for who they are-you don’t have to believe anything except that their experience is different from yours. There have been gender non-conforming people throughout history-they just weren’t topic of obsessive public discourse.
Gender dysphoria exists. Gender isn't an ideology. this offends me before it got started. This is why I avoid youtube now. This just depresses me.
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She is not questioning the existence of gender dysphoria, it is real for you & many - she says this right at the start. She just analyses features of religion as an ideology
There is no such thing as "gender dysphoria". This pressuposes that gender is real, material and measurable. No objective evidence for this.
@@amandarose3169is money "real"?
That's the trouble with not actually LISTENING to what a person says, because if you HAD, you would have realised that you were wrong in your ignorant assumptions about her.
At NO POINT did she say that gender/sex dysphoria doesn't exist.
Her talk is about gender IDENTITY.
THAT concept is very much a belief and is not established in science. Also a belief, is the idea that a FEELING, rather than your body, determines whether you are a girl/woman or a boy/man. 'Woman' has always denoted 'female', and femaleness is determined by physicality, not by thoughts or emotions. No one ever truly changes sex because it's medically impossible, and sex dysphoria never makes a person the sex that they are not.
You can make a religion out of transphobia, too. It's been done.
this is ridiculous and inherently fascistic, I feel terrible for anyone confused about the subject if this is where they come to find answers.
I don't understand why you think this is Fascistic? I think it's healthy to be able to discuss and debate this issue. The idea of Gender identity should be up for philosophical questions.
@@platonkarataev550 do you really think this is just philosophical discussion, just asking questions that won't have repercussions in the real world such as literally taking away people's human rights. because that is what is happening. that is why it's fascism
There is plenty of room for nuance conversations about gender And it's not as though all trans people feel think and believe all the same things about gender, That's why it's not an ideology
@@platonkarataev550 Up for discussion? sure. up for legislating away trans people's rights? Absolutely not.
"everything I don't like is inherently fascistic" ... get off reddit.
This is transphobic nonsense, we do not have a religious belief we are simply a different type of person, leave us alone
She believes she’s intelligent whether or not it’s true.
You believe your quote is worth reading whether or not it is true.
😆 Not necessarily