Hi, it would be nice if you can make a PVE/PVP for ROMC, where only 6 classes are available from the start (and not dilluted by these Hero Classes). I'd bet that it would be a hit!
Hero classes are easy mode. Such a shame, their introduction made adventure ones completely useless. It's not even about dps, but simply the number of skills to manage. No one, maybe beside hardcore players, will chose class that needs to manage 10 skills+ when you can just have one that can use everything on auto attack and just run around. This game went off the rails and there is no way back.
@@kenpora25 lol at the alien part. But true though, it's lazy part on the devs. Instead of making more star version of existing Card or make Card combination they gave us aliens which lets be real only obtainable through card gacha.
@@kenpora25 Every single aspect of this game has a p2w mechanic. All the devs efforts are only directed at milking players. They are too busy sending op perfect enchantment and +15 refining vouchers through kafra premium than really care about gameplay.
@@kenpora25 no way back indeed. they shoot themselves in knee with first hero class and it all went downhill. reworking all adventure classes is off the discussion, too much work = too expensive. and all those little tweaks to some jobs they made last months didn't change anything at all. Soon adventure classes will be another mechanic that becomes dead after one or two months of playing. Like Cloudsea Archipelago.
They should buff normal classes, it is true that hero classes are broken, but nerfing them isnt the solution. I had to make a rath, i was being oneshotted by everything as blade soul because i started to play this year. Buff normal classes is the solution!
Sara Alin deserved to be in S tier. I main Genos before, he's strong but being locked in Channeling status against moving targets greatly reduce his DPS. I now main Sara Alin and it's easy dish out consistent damage even if the target moves a lot. Sure Sara doesn't have built in anti-fatal like Genos but let's face it, when Genos enters remodeling mode you are as good as dead since Legend instances does not allow you to use the dash skill and you move very slow, you are just a sitting duck (unless you can use the Ymir's notebook and reload for full health, which stutters and lags unless you have a decent phone/pc). Genos' remodeling mode works well in PSR since the dragon doesn't use multiple hit skills except for the lava spot it leaves on the ground when walking which is also basically insta kill if you are standing for more than 1 second (you'd still get 1 hit if the orb spawns on your spot). Sara Alin can easily survive PSR since you are not a sitting duck like Genos during channeling mode. You can also avoid dying when the meteor hits by just using Play Dead just before impact (very easy to time). I strongly believe Sara should be higher (or at least equal) to Genos in ranking. Not being locked in limited collab event is a huge plus too . Discord ID: 1042745343349096468 Discord Name: jizomitama#0 Server: SEA
In my opinion the classes that belong to S Tier in terms of PVE performance are: Ronin, Khalitzburg, Saitama and Saint. Honorable mention goes to Rathgricy, due to her incredible survivability. melcia (with a dot between mel and cia) EU Eternal Love
So far, I'd say S tier for PvE weeklies are: Ronin, Rath, Khalitz and Saint. For PvE boss hunting I'd say Saitama and Rath. But I think balance is much better know, and there are many useful classes just some steps behind those, if built properly. (Global Eternal Love - langus7)
I think the s-tier you've selected are pretty good, mine would just remove Thor and Fenrir. Not because they're not good enough, they're just not as easy to scale as the other dps classes listed wodsonslk, global
I think with current situation, RM need to downgrade 1 more level to B-Tier. I mean since the heroes class are implemented, RM are totally insignificant after DEV release hero classes, simply because hero classes can deal much more better damage with much less investment in time and zenny combined Not to mention in game-play that I realized, Hero class has much less buff skills and those buff skills tend to have shorter cooldown too. Basically, if you're playing hero classes and revived, you don't have to worry about your buff's cooldown since you can recast it immediately without wait And there's server delay, so RM especially auto attack build is at disadvantage because the attacks kinda slow to registered even with max aspeed stat. Compare to say valkyrie class which has attack skills that last 4 seconds which skill itself deal damage every 0.5 seconds is much less affected by server delay, not to mention it's aoe skills too while RM Auto Attack is just single-target Basically there's no reason to play RM anymore unless you love RM since Heroes class is much more better objectively, but it's kinda weird since it's much less of less ragnarok now. I rather they gave us a real 4-th class update just like in original ragnarok MMO such as Dragon Knight, Cardinal, Meister, Shadow Cross etc *also less cash grabbing will be nice, instead of give alien this and that MVP card, just give a star version to old MVP card that has no star version yet such as Baphomet and Orc Hero card
One of the regular classes is a witch, one of the heroes of saitama, but I don't have one.. in general, I'm waiting for Elinia, I think she will be super!! eu
previously i mainly saitama PVE now im just using Thor for PVE since had better dps and speed... and crazily can solo lost isle legend, im slowly abandon my saitama....so far good with only boss hunting... personally i think thor in S tier good with CC and solo MVP..... since how crazy fast dmg from channeling skill MaxShooter , SEA
In my opinion begetter is definitely S tier, for the survivability, being able to hide while the homunculus fight for you and high dps with fire build. In general I often kill the mvps in legend dungeons, even when there are khalitzburg in the party.
I think the S - Tiers still this August are Khalitzburg, Thor and Rathgricy. Their sustainability and dmg output still shines in our weekly instances. Would like to still see them excel throughout the course of the year and beyond. 🎉❤ Rich Chigga #7791 SEA server
I think the video gives helpful information of the classes. But I am still unable to decide what to be, I am also struggling either to play ROO or ROM 🥲🥲
I believe s class for the current pve meta is khalitzburg with fenrir. Those 2 have been tearing up instances. A class id put nogu in it and rath / genos with nogu my push for the newbie Sadness for my native class blade soul, i tried to pve with it mix results😢😢😢😢
My list of S-tier classes for PvE: Saint - best support, especially when it's built to convert, Ronin - highest dps in current dungeons (sadly he might be weaker in new one), Khalitzburg - insanely high dps, sadly a bit squishy (atm weaker than Ronin), Rathgricy - not so high dps as the other 2 above but definitely highest survivability and it's really easy to play, Saitama - king of field boss hunting. bulls_covfefe EU Eternal Love
my first class is a ninja, but over time I became very disappointed in him. then there were a lot of enhancements to his abilities, and yet I think that he does not belong in the A rating, maximum B. only because he is an excellent support for increasing damage, but he still does not have his own damage(for wsa it was strong buff with fire field + fire mask + firewood + owl baron* + mutant dragon*). but now party try get khaliz (repcale nin) with holy/poison.
I think Sara Alin should be S Tier. She can burst pve fast. Though I agree that she lacks survivability but what's the point if the boss is already dead and most runs has saints anyway. - genrou20 sea
She was hard to place. I agree she can shred through stuff like Khlatizburg and then the boss can't hurt you anymore. I think after playing Liu, she just feels so much weaker so I suggest people wait for Liu first before investing in Sara. Liu, even without optimal gear, is a monster DPS magic class
Magic Novice Guardian is really good now with the last balanced made by Devs, still not good enough but better. I can carry all instances except Airship elite 15, but I can do AS Elite 10 and lower without need of help. I would add Magic Novice Guardian in the A tier, too!! 😂
@mapo4854 I use Storm Gust with Thunderbolt 🌩 for pve. Use a seed card for survivability and eddga card to keep casting interrupted. I use Lightning Meteor for pvp = Woe and Woc the long distance attack in groups is amazing 👏, you need to swap cards to make it better, but those are the best.
I think why khalitz is op cuz she scale with atk+matk. I wish dev update the description of the skill. Don't know why they kept it like secret for long time.
all lastest classes seem to be top tier in pve, and the upcoming magic class too (the cooking guy lol) i'm still oldschooling ronin xD iatoba Global Eternal Love
I personally think khalitzburg or rathgricy is best for F2P PvE. Rath if you want to survive, and maybe move to Khalitzburg later when you get more HP. For PvP, use support, as you won't kill people well as a F2P. I personally use doram as a nice support. I end up being an orb holder
I’ve switched from RA to Khalitz too. With the poison meta gears it does extremely well. Overall easy to play with its AoE skills, dmg frequency, and convertable weapon elem she is a good addition to any PVE party. Also useful too for apocs MVPs if u don’t have Saitama👌🏻
No, you don't need ignore def for Fenrir. Your crit already ignores defense. If you look at Fenrir builds out there, people just use auto attacking gear.
Do you mean the shadow equipment for accessories? They don't spill that type of info to me sadly, I just have to wait for it on the beta server. Currently it isn't available yet.
Thanks for the video. I agre to the commenter saying the addition of hero classes broke this game. May I add, including collab classes. And there's no going back. Off topic, but the recent wyvern boxes are the biggest trolling from the devs. The original kaguya was way more better looking. The 2 new ones are ugly af. But knowing how stpd the remaining players are, they will buy it (and fuse it) anyway. For what? If it was 10% move speed unlock, it could be justified. But the unlock and deposits are mediocre. Don't get me wrong, I opened boxes, but I sold them. I didn't bother to fuse and unlock the ugly creep. But the devs once again, milked the remaining players, a little more to go before they close the gate.
No. You can get one hero class for free. Need to finish ponape museum or lost isle island on warrior level with t4 class. But once you unlock it you need to pay to get others.
@@TuthyTuts After you unlock your first hero class you won't get job voucher after finishing pm or li. There is no achievement for that. So you need money to unlock next one. Or even next hero class if you haven't unlocked all of them before unlocking the first hero.
You notice how these collab/hero class ruined classic class? in this tier list? right. what a noob game. Now it's better to play ROM private server. A true classic!
I mean some1 already mentioned it in comment and I somewhat agree I get it if BCC classes are stronger since it's P2W and you can't access it anyway if you're not spending. But heroes classes are way much more better compare to classic jobs, that most classic jobs (other than tanker and supporter) are totally useless and waste of time compare to heroes classes
I'm always curious to try out new classes and builds, so if you think a class is much better than I had placed it, let me know :)
Hi, it would be nice if you can make a PVE/PVP for ROMC, where only 6 classes are available from the start (and not dilluted by these Hero Classes). I'd bet that it would be a hit!
Finally, a great update from your last video about the same topic. Will help a lot with people like me who just returned and want to play casually.
Hero classes are easy mode. Such a shame, their introduction made adventure ones completely useless. It's not even about dps, but simply the number of skills to manage. No one, maybe beside hardcore players, will chose class that needs to manage 10 skills+ when you can just have one that can use everything on auto attack and just run around. This game went off the rails and there is no way back.
@@kenpora25 lol at the alien part. But true though, it's lazy part on the devs. Instead of making more star version of existing Card or make Card combination they gave us aliens which lets be real only obtainable through card gacha.
@@kenpora25 Every single aspect of this game has a p2w mechanic. All the devs efforts are only directed at milking players. They are too busy sending op perfect enchantment and +15 refining vouchers through kafra premium than really care about gameplay.
@@kenpora25 no way back indeed. they shoot themselves in knee with first hero class and it all went downhill. reworking all adventure classes is off the discussion, too much work = too expensive. and all those little tweaks to some jobs they made last months didn't change anything at all. Soon adventure classes will be another mechanic that becomes dead after one or two months of playing. Like Cloudsea Archipelago.
They should buff normal classes, it is true that hero classes are broken, but nerfing them isnt the solution. I had to make a rath, i was being oneshotted by everything as blade soul because i started to play this year. Buff normal classes is the solution!
One solution is…6th Job and higher skill ceiling but higher damage than hero class
Sara Alin deserved to be in S tier.
I main Genos before, he's strong but being locked in Channeling status against moving targets greatly reduce his DPS. I now main Sara Alin and it's easy dish out consistent damage even if the target moves a lot.
Sure Sara doesn't have built in anti-fatal like Genos but let's face it, when Genos enters remodeling mode you are as good as dead since Legend instances does not allow you to use the dash skill and you move very slow, you are just a sitting duck (unless you can use the Ymir's notebook and reload for full health, which stutters and lags unless you have a decent phone/pc).
Genos' remodeling mode works well in PSR since the dragon doesn't use multiple hit skills except for the lava spot it leaves on the ground when walking which is also basically insta kill if you are standing for more than 1 second (you'd still get 1 hit if the orb spawns on your spot).
Sara Alin can easily survive PSR since you are not a sitting duck like Genos during channeling mode. You can also avoid dying when the meteor hits by just using Play Dead just before impact (very easy to time).
I strongly believe Sara should be higher (or at least equal) to Genos in ranking. Not being locked in limited collab event is a huge plus too .
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nah sara sucks at ora when sandstorm hits.
In my opinion the classes that belong to S Tier in terms of PVE performance are: Ronin, Khalitzburg, Saitama and Saint. Honorable mention goes to Rathgricy, due to her incredible survivability.
melcia (with a dot between mel and cia)
EU Eternal Love
So far, I'd say S tier for PvE weeklies are: Ronin, Rath, Khalitz and Saint. For PvE boss hunting I'd say Saitama and Rath. But I think balance is much better know, and there are many useful classes just some steps behind those, if built properly.
(Global Eternal Love - langus7)
I think the s-tier you've selected are pretty good, mine would just remove Thor and Fenrir. Not because they're not good enough, they're just not as easy to scale as the other dps classes listed
wodsonslk, global
I think with current situation, RM need to downgrade 1 more level to B-Tier. I mean since the heroes class are implemented, RM are totally insignificant after DEV release hero classes, simply because hero classes can deal much more better damage with much less investment in time and zenny combined
Not to mention in game-play that I realized, Hero class has much less buff skills and those buff skills tend to have shorter cooldown too. Basically, if you're playing hero classes and revived, you don't have to worry about your buff's cooldown since you can recast it immediately without wait
And there's server delay, so RM especially auto attack build is at disadvantage because the attacks kinda slow to registered even with max aspeed stat. Compare to say valkyrie class which has attack skills that last 4 seconds which skill itself deal damage every 0.5 seconds is much less affected by server delay, not to mention it's aoe skills too while RM Auto Attack is just single-target
Basically there's no reason to play RM anymore unless you love RM since Heroes class is much more better objectively, but it's kinda weird since it's much less of less ragnarok now. I rather they gave us a real 4-th class update just like in original ragnarok MMO such as Dragon Knight, Cardinal, Meister, Shadow Cross etc
*also less cash grabbing will be nice, instead of give alien this and that MVP card, just give a star version to old MVP card that has no star version yet such as Baphomet and Orc Hero card
One of the regular classes is a witch, one of the heroes of saitama, but I don't have one.. in general, I'm waiting for Elinia, I think she will be super!!
eu
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previously i mainly saitama PVE now im just using Thor for PVE since had better dps and speed... and crazily can solo lost isle legend, im slowly abandon my saitama....so far good with only boss hunting... personally i think thor in S tier good with CC and solo MVP..... since how crazy fast dmg from channeling skill
MaxShooter , SEA
In my opinion begetter is definitely S tier, for the survivability, being able to hide while the homunculus fight for you and high dps with fire build. In general I often kill the mvps in legend dungeons, even when there are khalitzburg in the party.
I agree 100% but please bro, don't expose us. 😂 let them feel they're all S tiers.
BG user is rare nowdays.
You need to try khalitz on your own to compare , maybe the khalitz in your team simply has lower handbook and eq etc.
Thanks for this good review! ❤
I think the S - Tiers still this August are Khalitzburg, Thor and Rathgricy. Their sustainability and dmg output still shines in our weekly instances. Would like to still see them excel throughout the course of the year and beyond. 🎉❤
Rich Chigga #7791
SEA server
I think the video gives helpful information of the classes. But I am still unable to decide what to be, I am also struggling either to play ROO or ROM 🥲🥲
I believe s class for the current pve meta is khalitzburg with fenrir. Those 2 have been tearing up instances.
A class id put nogu in it and rath / genos with nogu my push for the newbie
Sadness for my native class blade soul, i tried to pve with it mix results😢😢😢😢
yeah and its crazy fenrir also can carry new AS15 with the new p2w crystal card...
Any news on the zeny only server for global?
My list of S-tier classes for PvE:
Saint - best support, especially when it's built to convert,
Ronin - highest dps in current dungeons (sadly he might be weaker in new one),
Khalitzburg - insanely high dps, sadly a bit squishy (atm weaker than Ronin),
Rathgricy - not so high dps as the other 2 above but definitely highest survivability and it's really easy to play,
Saitama - king of field boss hunting.
bulls_covfefe
EU Eternal Love
Shame that I started playing in November, Infernal armor Job tree is gone now? Weird.
Inferno armor is a limited time class. So you have to wait for it to be re-released
my first class is a ninja, but over time I became very disappointed in him.
then there were a lot of enhancements to his abilities, and yet I think that he does not belong in the A rating, maximum B. only because he is an excellent support for increasing damage, but he still does not have his own damage(for wsa it was strong buff with fire field + fire mask + firewood + owl baron* + mutant dragon*). but now party try get khaliz (repcale nin) with holy/poison.
S-Tier - Ronin, Khalitz, Valk, Priest/convert
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JustHunting.
I think Sara Alin should be S Tier. She can burst pve fast. Though I agree that she lacks survivability but what's the point if the boss is already dead and most runs has saints anyway. - genrou20 sea
She was hard to place. I agree she can shred through stuff like Khlatizburg and then the boss can't hurt you anymore. I think after playing Liu, she just feels so much weaker so I suggest people wait for Liu first before investing in Sara. Liu, even without optimal gear, is a monster DPS magic class
Magic Novice Guardian is really good now with the last balanced made by Devs, still not good enough but better. I can carry all instances except Airship elite 15, but I can do AS Elite 10 and lower without need of help. I would add Magic Novice Guardian in the A tier, too!! 😂
What is the main dps skill with magic nogu, i only know physical nogu hsing cart tornado
@mapo4854 I use Storm Gust with Thunderbolt 🌩 for pve. Use a seed card for survivability and eddga card to keep casting interrupted. I use Lightning Meteor for pvp = Woe and Woc the long distance attack in groups is amazing 👏, you need to swap cards to make it better, but those are the best.
Really can't see saitama as s tier. Especially with his shtty lvl7 core skill effect 😆
I think why khalitz is op cuz she scale with atk+matk. I wish dev update the description of the skill. Don't know why they kept it like secret for long time.
they never keep it secret , they also doesnt know about it and update it so late on description lol
If Liu Mao is as good as he appears then Genos should be put in A rank and Mao will become the new S tier magic
may I ask if any of the super novice classes good?
I think Liu Mao Xing will be top S tier with his group anti death and double damage with 7/7 core skills.
fishballchikuwa SEA EL
all lastest classes seem to be top tier in pve, and the upcoming magic class too (the cooking guy lol)
i'm still oldschooling ronin xD
iatoba
Global Eternal Love
Hi whats the best class f2p for pvp and pve in your opinion?
I personally think khalitzburg or rathgricy is best for F2P PvE. Rath if you want to survive, and maybe move to Khalitzburg later when you get more HP. For PvP, use support, as you won't kill people well as a F2P. I personally use doram as a nice support. I end up being an orb holder
I’ve switched from RA to Khalitz too. With the poison meta gears it does extremely well. Overall easy to play with its AoE skills, dmg frequency, and convertable weapon elem she is a good addition to any PVE party. Also useful too for apocs MVPs if u don’t have Saitama👌🏻
Do Fenrir needs 200% ignore def?
No, you don't need ignore def for Fenrir. Your crit already ignores defense. If you look at Fenrir builds out there, people just use auto attacking gear.
Should have watched this before investing in my tyrant
Tyrant is still great for farming and PvP, not a total loss
wait for the upcoming collab class its time for magic class to shine
ROM only zeny same tier list ? or nah ?
I will be playing it first. I plan to try out seriously for two weeks or so first
@WobblyWallaby hello bro, i playin romc cbt, build rogue dagger, can you share build rogue dagger, i love class stalker
Is there no free change job classess now?
Only the non hero classes have job change vouchers
Is khalitz friendly to semi f2p players like rath?
With full EQ maybe Poitata Star card +15 weapon
I personally like khal if she get 7/7. Altough she already good with 4/7 but 7/7 khal is my favourite.
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Please check discord, I just sent a friend request to DM your code
I quit since 2021, does it good to comeback?
Hello, as a well known content creator, would you be able to provide feedback to Dev to see where is the progress for shadow SE T5? its almost 2025:X
Do you mean the shadow equipment for accessories? They don't spill that type of info to me sadly, I just have to wait for it on the beta server. Currently it isn't available yet.
barely understand due to bad audio and lack of subtitle
dev please see this tier list, not only just see ofu tier list tbh
Thanks for the video. I agre to the commenter saying the addition of hero classes broke this game. May I add, including collab classes.
And there's no going back.
Off topic, but the recent wyvern boxes are the biggest trolling from the devs. The original kaguya was way more better looking. The 2 new ones are ugly af. But knowing how stpd the remaining players are, they will buy it (and fuse it) anyway. For what? If it was 10% move speed unlock, it could be justified. But the unlock and deposits are mediocre.
Don't get me wrong, I opened boxes, but I sold them. I didn't bother to fuse and unlock the ugly creep. But the devs once again, milked the remaining players, a little more to go before they close the gate.
Why i Cant see this S class in game?
This is ROM, you get Khalitzburg from unlocking knight. If you are playing ROM C, these classes don't all exist there
S-Tier Khalitz all the waaaay,
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Rathgricy and other Hero classes needs BCC to unlocks it.
No. You can get one hero class for free. Need to finish ponape museum or lost isle island on warrior level with t4 class. But once you unlock it you need to pay to get others.
@@osadolazuardi3356 there are job vouchers that are free to unlock most hero class. Collab Hero are the one stuck on BCC to unlock.
@@TuthyTuts After you unlock your first hero class you won't get job voucher after finishing pm or li. There is no achievement for that. So you need money to unlock next one. Or even next hero class if you haven't unlocked all of them before unlocking the first hero.
Khalitzburg and liu-mao-xing sergiumiro EU
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@@WobblyWallaby ok, accepted, thank you
You notice how these collab/hero class ruined classic class? in this tier list? right.
what a noob game.
Now it's better to play ROM private server. A true classic!
I mean some1 already mentioned it in comment and I somewhat agree
I get it if BCC classes are stronger since it's P2W and you can't access it anyway if you're not spending. But heroes classes are way much more better compare to classic jobs, that most classic jobs (other than tanker and supporter) are totally useless and waste of time compare to heroes classes
S-tier: Khalitz, rath, saint
D-tier: my boy thanny :(
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Global - Destiny's Promise
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Ahaha someone would be mad as hell again since you dumped Jorm again. 😂😂😂😂
Fenrir my all time favorite i can speed run all my weeklies !
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Khalitz and Ronin
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I notice all your video tier list is pve, can you make one for pvp?
I think, Genos, Kalitz and Fenrir
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Make LB great again!!!... Everyone pls send a ticket to make LB photon canon to be nonstop just like genos!!!!
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I stopped playing roel. Because i love ranger stellar hunter but developer of this game made it sucks. Ragnarok Online still much better.
me playing since the beginning and using trash aka D Tier chars XD
I like khalitz and thor the most
DA also essential and saint never dies
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@@WobblyWallaby yes sir