the fact that is 2 dimension, means you could use the Y axis to control pressure on the keyboard, ore other value too... or you could divide vertically the screen in like 4 parts, and boom, you have 4 octaves, or 4 different instruments, or 3 other sliders...
I absolutely love your videos man, they're incredibly inspiring! One of my biggest dreams is to build my own synthesiser...and things like this get me so excited
Thank you soooo sooooo much. I was wanting to do this same thing with Acoustic Panel’s this give me a better understanding of how to achieve this. God Bless.
You so should make use of the 2d-ness and make the second dimension be volume. Kinda like a thermin but on a surface. Or you could make the second dimension be a parameter for the wave shape...
Nice video! Looking for this for a longer period. Is there an reason why you add a physical button? because you have a touch screen, why not using the upper area as touch buttons (so you can draw your own buttons). It is also easier to extend. In fact, you can draw a whole input interface for any project with only for wires, you don't need to drill holes and you are able to create nice drawings, that's pretty neath.
obviously you cant simply cut it up a touchscreen as is, but making multiple ribbons/"softpots"(tm) from one touch panel should be pretty simple, using just the resistive plastic film and single sided PCB material as the backplate. (gold plated, so there's no oxydisation) hardest part will be sourcing some conductive, douple sided tape, without having to but an entire roll of that expensive stuff.
great project so is it possible to buy one of those expensive softpots ie 100mm and Arduino Pro micro (Chinese) and make a 2 semitone Pitchbend Ribbon for the Arranger Keyboards we are using (i.e Yamaha,korg) or any chance to help us for the coding ?
no, you! it can literally be done by drawing the traces on a piece of paper with a pencil. :D but why would you even want that? aside from being needlessly complicated, it would be pretty annoying when you cant put a finger on the ribbon, without it immediately triggering. i'd much rather layer it with a pressure sensor.
Im looking at spectra symbol 300mm thinpots for a midi controller project-- wanna use 4 of them parallel. Can anyone think of a cheaper alternative to this that can get me the size I'm looking for?
Cool video as proof of principle. I want a mini version to attach to a Midi harmonica for pitch control. I sent you a message asking if I could commission you to make me one. Please check messages and get back to me - thanks!
I clicked on this thinking at last a touchscreen part that can be repurposed OUTSIDE a COMPUTER and used for MIDI.. I was sadly wrong. I was hoping for a non computer based hardware midi only solution. I have a ton of trackball mice, and touchscreen panels and wanted to make a standalone, kosspad like device that can send midi control messages to a Yamaha AN200 groovebox synth or any other real hardware synth that accepts midi control messages in realtime. A touchscreen midi controller would be great and a trackball midi controller as well. Imagine changing the values of your Yamaha DX synth using a trackball or touchscreen? Draw a line in any direction on the touch panel and change the frequency parametre on the Yamaha, draw the circle and change the filter,etc.. Touch screens come in resistive, capacitive and acoustic wave. The resistive would be the most simple as you said. Like having a big after touch strip to play with! My laptops have a USB type or PS/2 type touch pad that screems touch controller! Can you fashion a NON COMPUTER based midi only interface for a 4 or 5 wire resistive touchscreen panel to be used as a ribbon or touch pad midi controller?? I know that would work with aserial/PS/2 and USB trackball as well. On the ball version, imagine being able to change the timbre of your Yamaha FM synth patch dynamically in realtime by moving the track ball in every direction! Now imagine flicking the trackball to let it freespin while you play on the keyboard and the act causes the sound to freak out or change in real time without you having to prerecord the midi changes for say a..wavesequencing evolving sound? I spin my trackball on the PC sometimes to get the mouse cursor to go in one direction or the other real fast, and I can just imagine being able to do that but with a synth sound instead of just a mouse cursor.. Think about it.. I know there are ridiculous priced solutions out there but I am poor, and have ALOT of recycled computer parts, old Casio and Yamaha Keyboards and midi synths in my house screeching to be used!... TOGETHER :-P
I think all you need is something like a raspberry to transform the touchscreen input into a midi signal. At least that's the simplest and somewhat cheap solution I can think of within 3 seconds of brainstorming. But stop hating on computers, these days you don't need a 3 foot cube for a simple midi conversion. 10 bucks for a computer the size of a credit card does the trick for a lot of things!
@@VulpeculaJoy lol you are right! But I do not hate on computers. I actually am in the search for said sized solutions. I have seen at LAST, a micro sized PC x86 intel NUC cube that I could only dream about and indeed did, back in 2012! Sadly, they require Windows 10 and not Windows Xp or Win7. Win10 is too bloated and heavy to use for what I need.. I have also come across tiny sized touch screen intel Atom units that mount into a panel or wall. My thing here however was more of a being able to repurpose electronics parts for midi and synthesizers. In the 1980s when Yamaha DX7 and the like came out, I would imagine being able to use a arcade track ball to change FM frequency and modulation parametres on my Yamaha PSS480 in realtime by letting the ball fly when I flick it fast and it would spin and thus cause the sounds on the keyboard to evolve and change WHILE I play with BOTH hands.. I am 45 and in 2019 and STILL wanting that... I am a circuitbender as it is called online now.
I like this projekt! 👍 Cool video! I'm very interested in building it. But I think ther's a difference between your shematic and your finished controller. ? I think there are some extra parts which are not shown in your shematic. Can you help me? I would be very happy to build it!!! ; )
Apologies if it is not clear. The touch screen is represented as a potentiometer on the schematic. Just take three of the wires from the screen and pretend it's a pot.
@@mitxela Thank you very much! ; ) And my second question? On your Website you writed that this is "Approximate circuit (add capacitors to taste)" What capacitors? I would really like to make this but I think it wouldn't work maybe. : ( Thank you for your answer!
Since it's real glass, can it be etched or engraved with a keyboard pattern to have a transparent keyboard?
Excellent solution! The linear softpot prices are insane!
IKR! propably due to it being a specialty part with very limited applications and production volumes. otherwise you'd get them from china for cents.
Not complete, 2 axis ribbon controller awaits unfinished...
the fact that is 2 dimension, means you could use the Y axis to control pressure on the keyboard, ore other value too... or you could divide vertically the screen in like 4 parts, and boom, you have 4 octaves, or 4 different instruments, or 3 other sliders...
Well. I think I just so happen to have one of these touch digitizers just collecting dust for being the wrong ratio. Guess I know what to use it for.
Don’t you want me baby, don’t you want me, oooooooohhhh
@Bety Suhartini What language is that?
I absolutely love your videos man, they're incredibly inspiring! One of my biggest dreams is to build my own synthesiser...and things like this get me so excited
You're the kind of RUclipsr I'd like to be (if I tried, that is)
try! i dare you :)
The windows vista sound at 2:24 gave me memories
Well, now I have "Don't you want me baby" by the Human League stuck in my head
Wow. This sounds just like Seaboard!
nope, sounds like a ribbon controller. :D those have been around for "a little" longer.
DAMN! Man, Your Project Are The Coolest !
I Wish I Would Know Half Of What You Know. :(
Nice Job!
i would be a bit worried to do this but man im glad we have u to try these mad thing for us :)
Brilliant! thank you for this.
Thank you soooo sooooo much. I was wanting to do this same thing with Acoustic Panel’s this give me a better understanding of how to achieve this.
God Bless.
Groovy cover version!
Awesome :) i really like your innovation.
Excellent project
Would it be easier to solder to those ribbon cables if you cut them diagonally to reduce the apparent pitch?
just get the intended FPC connector and put it on a PCB :/
@@dumle29 oh no! Spending 2 pence on a breakout 😳 how will we afford that
You can use Y axis for octave
Extremely excellent video.
You so should make use of the 2d-ness and make the second dimension be volume. Kinda like a thermin but on a surface. Or you could make the second dimension be a parameter for the wave shape...
Nice video! Looking for this for a longer period. Is there an reason why you add a physical button? because you have a touch screen, why not using the upper area as touch buttons (so you can draw your own buttons). It is also easier to extend. In fact, you can draw a whole input interface for any project with only for wires, you don't need to drill holes and you are able to create nice drawings, that's pretty neath.
Could get a cheap TFT touch screen nowadays for this project? It would help to actually display an image too.
obviously you cant simply cut it up a touchscreen as is, but making multiple ribbons/"softpots"(tm) from one touch panel should be pretty simple, using just the resistive plastic film and single sided PCB material as the backplate. (gold plated, so there's no oxydisation) hardest part will be sourcing some conductive, douple sided tape, without having to but an entire roll of that expensive stuff.
wow ! really useful, thank you !
great project so is it possible to buy one of those expensive softpots ie 100mm and Arduino Pro micro (Chinese) and make a 2 semitone Pitchbend Ribbon for the Arranger Keyboards we are using (i.e Yamaha,korg) or any chance to help us for the coding ?
Quite cool
I assume it would be possible to have movement on the y axis manipulate the sound in some way?
You could
Mate I have done that a lot of years ago, with a laptop TouchPad, I think that is the same as this resistive touscreen.
what did you do with the mind stone
why not use the x and y positions as 2 separate channels ? ie pitch and modulation etc
Should work :)
You ! Are ! Great !!!!! :)
how would you make a standard "xy controller"?
Awesome
Now do the same for capacitive touch
no, you! it can literally be done by drawing the traces on a piece of paper with a pencil. :D
but why would you even want that? aside from being needlessly complicated, it would be pretty annoying when you cant put a finger on the ribbon, without it immediately triggering. i'd much rather layer it with a pressure sensor.
Missing the point
what's your point then?
good stuff
can you make one
move multiple virtual knobs
on one screen?
ruclips.net/video/km0F9hcIV1c/видео.html
to make a full costom controller for my vst synth
Hi How can I order one like this from you I have keyboard Korg PA1000 without a Ribbon and I want to add this riboon controll to my keyboard ? thanks
That's awesome ! Where do I get one that's as wide as a keyboard? :D
you could use more than one, if you really need that much.
I want to build my own Linnstrument.. XYZ controls
Im looking at spectra symbol 300mm thinpots for a midi controller project-- wanna use 4 of them parallel. Can anyone think of a cheaper alternative to this that can get me the size I'm looking for?
Have you ever played with an Axoloti?
Should just use carbon sheets..they don't need to be transparent after all..
Who needs a Y axis anyways?
Hi! Why do you use a USB cable here? Because it's the slimmest or some other reason?
Siempre tuve la inquietud de hacerlo
i would like to buy one of these if possible
i was imagining a touch screen monitor as a controller which sounds kind of awesome....
The main issue with touch screens is a feedback. They have no any and you should looks on them to be able to do something without missing buttons
HOW DOES YOUR ATTINY COMMUNICATe WITH PC OVER USB WITHOUt EXtrA CHIP????
He mentions it in the video "V USB"
Cool video as proof of principle. I want a mini version to attach to a Midi harmonica for pitch control. I sent you a message asking if I could commission you to make me one. Please check messages and get back to me - thanks!
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I clicked on this thinking at last a touchscreen part that can be repurposed OUTSIDE a COMPUTER and used for MIDI.. I was sadly wrong. I was hoping for a non computer based hardware midi only solution. I have a ton of trackball mice, and touchscreen panels and wanted to make a standalone, kosspad like device that can send midi control messages to a Yamaha AN200 groovebox synth or any other real hardware synth that accepts midi control messages in realtime. A touchscreen midi controller would be great and a trackball midi controller as well. Imagine changing the values of your Yamaha DX synth using a trackball or touchscreen? Draw a line in any direction on the touch panel and change the frequency parametre on the Yamaha, draw the circle and change the filter,etc.. Touch screens come in resistive, capacitive and acoustic wave. The resistive would be the most simple as you said. Like having a big after touch strip to play with! My laptops have a USB type or PS/2 type touch pad that screems touch controller! Can you fashion a NON COMPUTER based midi only interface for a 4 or 5 wire resistive touchscreen panel to be used as a ribbon or touch pad midi controller?? I know that would work with aserial/PS/2 and USB trackball as well. On the ball version, imagine being able to change the timbre of your Yamaha FM synth patch dynamically in realtime by moving the track ball in every direction! Now imagine flicking the trackball to let it freespin while you play on the keyboard and the act causes the sound to freak out or change in real time without you having to prerecord the midi changes for say a..wavesequencing evolving sound? I spin my trackball on the PC sometimes to get the mouse cursor to go in one direction or the other real fast, and I can just imagine being able to do that but with a synth sound instead of just a mouse cursor.. Think about it.. I know there are ridiculous priced solutions out there but I am poor, and have ALOT of recycled computer parts, old Casio and Yamaha Keyboards and midi synths in my house screeching to be used!... TOGETHER :-P
I think all you need is something like a raspberry to transform the touchscreen input into a midi signal. At least that's the simplest and somewhat cheap solution I can think of within 3 seconds of brainstorming. But stop hating on computers, these days you don't need a 3 foot cube for a simple midi conversion. 10 bucks for a computer the size of a credit card does the trick for a lot of things!
www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-zero/
@@VulpeculaJoy lol you are right! But I do not hate on computers. I actually am in the search for said sized solutions. I have seen at LAST, a micro sized PC x86 intel NUC cube that I could only dream about and indeed did, back in 2012! Sadly, they require Windows 10 and not Windows Xp or Win7. Win10 is too bloated and heavy to use for what I need.. I have also come across tiny sized touch screen intel Atom units that mount into a panel or wall. My thing here however was more of a being able to repurpose electronics parts for midi and synthesizers. In the 1980s when Yamaha DX7 and the like came out, I would imagine being able to use a arcade track ball to change FM frequency and modulation parametres on my Yamaha PSS480 in realtime by letting the ball fly when I flick it fast and it would spin and thus cause the sounds on the keyboard to evolve and change WHILE I play with BOTH hands.. I am 45 and in 2019 and STILL wanting that... I am a circuitbender as it is called online now.
Raspberry is probably overkill... ESP8266 or ESP32 should be able to handle this just fine
hello,
I don't understand how to connect to the touch screen in your shematic.
Can you help me? : (
I like this projekt! 👍 Cool video!
I'm very interested in building it.
But I think ther's a difference between your shematic and your finished controller. ?
I think there are some extra parts which are not shown in your shematic.
Can you help me?
I would be very happy to build it!!! ; )
Apologies if it is not clear. The touch screen is represented as a potentiometer on the schematic. Just take three of the wires from the screen and pretend it's a pot.
@@mitxela Thank you very much! ; )
And my second question?
On your Website you writed that this is "Approximate circuit (add capacitors to taste)"
What capacitors?
I would really like to make this but I think it wouldn't work maybe. : (
Thank you for your answer!
Is that possible with multiple touch
no
No, you only get a single voltage, therefore when you press with two fingers, it will register only as one somehwere in the middle of both.
Harías un tutorial de cómo construir este producto??
I would want to build a drawing tablet for cheap drawing tablets are not cheap