Flying around some castle ruins, you can take all the safety precautions in the world, but you can't plan on a Karen. Thanks to my sponsors.... Frame-X Axis Flying Gemfan Hobby
I understand that: if a drone hits this monument and a brick falls out, you won't run away, you'll just wait for the police to arrive - and pay a million pounds for the damage? Sorry, but this isn't some abandoned factory, even if (I don't know) in the UK you have to have insurance - I'll bet my gonads: that it won't cover such thoughtlessness. Technically - he was in the building space, not in the airspace: as the law allows him to do.
Great flying and location. I had a look on English Heritage website, my word what a bunch of knobs. Apparently, if you take off and land outside the boundary of the EH site there's nothing they can do if no one else is there. Keep posting, this is fantastic
Its only an issue if you take off on their land without permission, as everyone says, ‘you don’t own the airspace’. But if the drone is more than 250g you cannot go overflying people who might be walking around the place. Ie Whitby Abbey which is another great spot, though spotting from the road side is tough
Awesome flight, video is well done! Appears you were flying responsibly and being considerate of others. Mad respect. Alot of us who have flown for any length of time have has our run=ins with Carins. You handled it well. Have your registration in order, be considerate of others and fly, have fun. When Carins do show up just do like you did. Advise them and don't be mean. That's all you can do. Carins always interrupt because they are not interested in what anyone has to say. To them they are right and everyone else is wrong.
I had never problem even with Karens. Flying responsibly matters. This one is stupid without spotter in public place. Best reaction would be "Sry, you have right, I'll go now, have a nice day."
thats why i like my 3.5inch quads so much they are not as loud and annoying as a 5inch the thing that angers people is the noise and some are affraid of the quad itself with a 3,5 inch you are way more quiet and the quad is not as intimitdating and if you want to you can get it below sub250 even the flight performance is not much different from a 5 inch and you get more flight time on a 3.5inch the only reason i take the 5 inch is for flying it with a gopro otherwise i prefer the 3,5inch now obv if its a karen it doesnt matter either way :D
@@throwingstones96 for sub250 i go with 1404 3800kv 4s for example the iflight xing 2 1404 and for heavier builds i like to go with 1604 2900kv on 6s tmotor p1604 for aios i like the geprc taker g4 series 35A for 4s and 45A for 6s for frames i like the discus the most for sub250 builds and the grinderino for 6s builds my favorite vtx is the race v3 combined with the nano v3 cam for sub250 or the micro v3 for everything else my 6s builds are around 300-320g which gives them a lot more momentum compared to a sub250 it feels more like a 5inch that way but i kinda like the sub250s more by now cause im used to it and you get more flight time with those and the are even more quiet running hqprop 3525 like everyone who is flying 3.5inch i seems :D
@@throwingstones96 i like the 4s 650mAh ucell lipos from dogcom and if you want to save more weight get the 560mAh 4s from dogcom (they are expensive tho) dont get fooled by the ovonics they are dirt cheap but the are really bad too you can fly freestyle with those
Nice flying dude! Handled it absolutely well. You were never gonna change that persons opinion, she was just out for it because of her dogs. Is it legal to have her dogs without leash there? Maybe you should have asked her about it, if sticking to rules is so important to her.
You remained calm, polite and walked away when Karen was being rude. I don't know why people feel the need to do this. I think the main reason is ignorance and assumptions the hobby is bad. Nice location and flying 👍.
First of all, I'm on your side… But, if you're flying from their property without their permission then that's breaking the rules. That said, I agree if there's no flight restrictions then just go from somewhere close by that's publicly accessible.
@ both you and I stayed polite! Almost identical interactions. Someone commented on mine, start referencing deaths by dogs vs drones… she had 2 dogs that statistically are 100% more dangerous each 😆
Just as some context. Annual fatalities by dogs in the UK: 2019 - 2 deaths 2020 - 3 deaths 2021 - 5 deaths 2022 - 6 deaths 2023 - 16 deaths Annual fatalities OR serious injuries by drones over the last 5 years - ZERO.
I think he’s trying to highlight the fact the hobby isn’t a dangerous one. It’s also not forbidden to fly over all urban areas unless there’s restrictions in place. But kinda of agree we should leave the dogs out of this 😂
If it’s an English Heritage site then you are breaking the local byelaw in place by flying there. English Heritage and National Trust have a zero drone policy in place and it is classed as trespassing to undertake a task not permitted under local byelaw. Although you may feel the site may be ‘public’, you are confusing public access with a right to do what you want. In this case you are the Karen by enforcing your actions and opinions on everyone despite being in the wrong.
I like the angle you’re coming from, however leaving it open to public after closing hours.. with no signs, I use an app regulated by the government to state where I can fly and when I selected this location, it gives me no warnings or issues with flying here.
@ that’s not how the law works sadly. They don’t need signs for the byelaw to be in effect. Technically you are confusing airspace with ground space. Your app (I’m guessing Drone Assist) shows only what airspace you can fly in, you must still not commit trespass at the point of take-off (this is covered in the CAA regulations and law too). So you can overfly from outside of their land (subject to maintaining separation to the public etc), but you cannot legally take-off from their land, closed or not. Up to you what you do, but understand ignorance of the law is no defence, if the police stop you, you face prosecution for multiple offences, as well as any insurance you may have not being valid. As this is an area open to the public, it can legally be classed as a “built up area used for recreation”, therefore you cannot fly there under the A3 Open Category either, you must be 150m horizontally from it. Rather than telling this woman in the video you are licensed, you should maybe check the law and correctly understand what you can and can’t do.
Great flying, but I'm afraid to say you are in the wrong here. English Heritage does have a ban on flying drones. While you are allowed to fly in the airspace, so long as there are no other restrictions, landowners are allowed to withold permission to take off and land from their property. That is effectively what English Heritage is doing. I'm also afraid to say that you are not helping the cause of FPV flyers flying in public. These sorts of people are annoying, but such is life and arguing when you are in the wrong does nobody any good here. If you had taken off outside of the property (with permission) and were flying overhead (safely and responsibly), then you would have been fine. Stay safe!
Fpv pilots have rights to fly in the uk too, yeah where I overstepped the mark was taking off from there land, however there was nobody there to ask permission from and clearly walking up from the road there was no signs stating I couldn’t fly. Although I do agree with you, it’s frustrating being an Fpv pilot in the UK and not given a space or designated area to fly. It feels like no matter what we do we break the law when it’s a harmless hobby that many benefit from.
@Ubatubadan hence why fpv will always be and stay a niche hobby. If it's not people telling you that you can't take off or land it's bandos being torn down so fast and they put back up boring housing projects lol 😴 Awesome fly spots are near and far between it seems anymore. Alot of people including myself get burned out from all the constant let downs of this hobby. It's really sad honestly because your right drones do alot of good for mental health but at the same time are being used for war so the innocence of drones is long gone from the publics perception.
Great skills but no such thing as a license, if you had a spotter they should be beside you. There isn’t a 5kg ‘license’ not sure where you are getting that from, took off on EH land which is private land without permission by the sounds of things. So she might have been grumpy but was within her rights, the vid did not go into much detail. Not questioning the skills or the relatively low risk of the flight. But monkey see monkey do.
I said I have a license for up to 5kg in the air and I do. My spotter was right next to me and let me know as soon as she was there, she didn’t even make it through the gate without me knowing about it. The drone is bound by the same sub250 rules of a mini 4pro.
@ don’t be daft. I cannot see anything that talks of a 5kg license. The A2 is up to 2kg not 3kg. If you are in FPVUK fly under Article 16, that will allow up to 25kg for recreation in a recreation area, but more importantly it allows overflight with a 30m separation which is actually better than the A2 and my Operational Authorisation. Go read up. It will be to your advantage if you get Karen’s bothering you. They won’t have a clue. FPVUK £25/yr and includes insurance. Full disclosure though I am an Air Law examiner for FPVUK other model clubs offer similar perks like BMFA
@@Ubatubadan Though I have no real objections personally to anything you did in this video, I've got to agree with @gimbalair here. From a legal perspective, you were technically breaking the law. Even if we ignore licenses and anything about it being private property, drones above 250g can't legally fly within 50m of uninvolved persons in public (even further for drones above 2kg). I'm sure Karen would not consider herself "involved" 😂
환상적인 장소와 비행 실력의 멋진 조화네요....Carry on!!!
respect for beeing so calm. i hate those people.
Gotta be calm in these situations.
same, those people have such a miserable life that they hate to see others having fun
I understand that: if a drone hits this monument and a brick falls out, you won't run away, you'll just wait for the police to arrive - and pay a million pounds for the damage? Sorry, but this isn't some abandoned factory, even if (I don't know) in the UK you have to have insurance - I'll bet my gonads: that it won't cover such thoughtlessness. Technically - he was in the building space, not in the airspace: as the law allows him to do.
What an awesome spot! My favorite move ist the flip through the window. You know how to fly 😍👍👍👍
Thanks buddy 🙏🏼
epic place, epic flying - thanks for sharing!
Thanks buddy! 👊🏼
“If you’re not gonna let me finish!” - ARMED STRAIT BACK UP 🖕. Classic! 🤣.
Great flying there mate 👌.
She wasn’t listening to me at all 😂
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Great flying and location. I had a look on English Heritage website, my word what a bunch of knobs. Apparently, if you take off and land outside the boundary of the EH site there's nothing they can do if no one else is there. Keep posting, this is fantastic
Thanks buddy! After I read the policies, I couldn’t believe the cheek of it 😂
Its only an issue if you take off on their land without permission, as everyone says, ‘you don’t own the airspace’. But if the drone is more than 250g you cannot go overflying people who might be walking around the place. Ie Whitby Abbey which is another great spot, though spotting from the road side is tough
Dan keep the good work you improved so much since I start to watch your content :) please more ;D
@@DennethFPV thanks buddy much appreciated! 👊🏼👊🏼
Karen :"you cant rip here! You need to leave"
You: " make me"
😂
Spectacular location. Spectacular flying.
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great stuff - that reverse/ rewind was sick
Damn brother you fly better than birds.
Haha thanks pal! 👊🏼👊🏼
@5:34 Don't know why that reverse entry really pleased me. Sick flying.
Please’s me too 😂 thanks buddy 👊🏼
Awesome flight, video is well done! Appears you were flying responsibly and being considerate of others. Mad respect.
Alot of us who have flown for any length of time have has our run=ins with Carins. You handled it well. Have your registration in order, be considerate of others and fly, have fun. When Carins do show up just do like you did. Advise them and don't be mean. That's all you can do.
Carins always interrupt because they are not interested in what anyone has to say. To them they are right and everyone else is wrong.
I had never problem even with Karens. Flying responsibly matters. This one is stupid without spotter in public place. Best reaction would be "Sry, you have right, I'll go now, have a nice day."
@@YourdailydoseofShorts-un5vi oh did I not have spotter 😂😂😂 🍩
@@Thunderbyrd. thanks buddy. And yeah I agree! 👊🏼
@@Ubatubadan pathetic
Really good flying love it!
After that flight… Now you own this spot!
Any claims from the trust are void. 😂
Sounds good to me 😂
lol
Now thats a friggin video! FPV IS ALIVE!!!❤👍✨️🎅🫡
🥳🥳👊🏼
Nice rip 😍
I need some Castle bandos in my life awesome RIP bro
Get on google, search “castle ruins near me” and check the Wikipedia link
Love watching Karen interactions! 😂
Gna start putting all mine up 😂 missed out on some crackers haha
Don't wanna get nasty.....lol
thats why i like my 3.5inch quads so much
they are not as loud and annoying as a 5inch
the thing that angers people is the noise and some are affraid of the quad itself
with a 3,5 inch you are way more quiet and the quad is not as intimitdating and if you want to you can get it below sub250 even
the flight performance is not much different from a 5 inch and you get more flight time on a 3.5inch
the only reason i take the 5 inch is for flying it with a gopro otherwise i prefer the 3,5inch now
obv if its a karen it doesnt matter either way :D
Also thinking about moving to 3.5 exactly because of this. Any recommendations on motor size and 4s or 6s?
@@throwingstones96 for sub250 i go with 1404 3800kv 4s
for example the iflight xing 2 1404
and for heavier builds i like to go with 1604 2900kv on 6s
tmotor p1604
for aios i like the geprc taker g4 series
35A for 4s and 45A for 6s
for frames i like the discus the most for sub250 builds and the grinderino for 6s builds
my favorite vtx is the race v3 combined with the nano v3 cam for sub250 or the micro v3 for everything else
my 6s builds are around 300-320g which gives them a lot more momentum compared to a sub250 it feels more like a 5inch that way
but i kinda like the sub250s more by now cause im used to it and you get more flight time with those and the are even more quiet
running hqprop 3525 like everyone who is flying 3.5inch i seems :D
@ thanks for the valuable info! will definitely try a 3.5 build
thinking 1404 w 4s
@@throwingstones96 i like the 4s 650mAh ucell lipos from dogcom
and if you want to save more weight get the 560mAh 4s from dogcom (they are expensive tho)
dont get fooled by the ovonics they are dirt cheap but the are really bad too you can fly freestyle with those
Nice 1👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
👊🏼
you're screwed when the karens educate themselves on vlos/spotter rules if you're going out alone.
Very cool flight 😎👍
Thanks pal 👊🏼
Ah yes, gotta love drone Karen's.
If Karen said it, it's forbidden.😊😂
😂😂
Wowwww what ana amazing spot to fly.....great flow, gre8 video...cheers from New York...do you have link for frame?!
@@dizzydeanfpv45 it’s a uk based company called “frameX” best way to get one is message them on there insta.
Nice flying dude! Handled it absolutely well. You were never gonna change that persons opinion, she was just out for it because of her dogs. Is it legal to have her dogs without leash there? Maybe you should have asked her about it, if sticking to rules is so important to her.
If black Labradors weren’t my favourite dog, I may have brought them into it 😂
@@Ubatubadan 🤣🤣
Think i just saw a little bit of juice Danny Boy! 😁
Haha oiioiii hope you liked it buddy! 👊🏼👊🏼
@@Ubatubadan Awesome pal, some significant improvements going on. 👍🏻
What licenses are they? Great flying by the way.
The drone is sub250 mate.
🔥🔥
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Pretty much why I switched to 3.5, less noise, less Karens
Smart move!
ye so true
and they are just as much fun as a 5inch
You remained calm, polite and walked away when Karen was being rude.
I don't know why people feel the need to do this.
I think the main reason is ignorance and assumptions the hobby is bad.
Nice location and flying 👍.
First of all, I'm on your side… But, if you're flying from their property without their permission then that's breaking the rules. That said, I agree if there's no flight restrictions then just go from somewhere close by that's publicly accessible.
100% agree buddy. Nice to be close though
Why is it always women who won’t let you talk 😂 I had the same recently
Unreal ent it 😂 was just a “no” regardless
@ both you and I stayed polite! Almost identical interactions. Someone commented on mine, start referencing deaths by dogs vs drones… she had 2 dogs that statistically are 100% more dangerous each 😆
Me too! I think it's because they think they are the boss and they aren't interested in what anyone else has to say.
Just as some context.
Annual fatalities by dogs in the UK:
2019 - 2 deaths
2020 - 3 deaths
2021 - 5 deaths
2022 - 6 deaths
2023 - 16 deaths
Annual fatalities OR serious injuries by drones over the last 5 years - ZERO.
and maybe that's related to the fact it's forbidden to fly over urban areas and people ? jfc how dumb do you have to be to make such comparisons
and also the fact there's millions of dogs and only thousands of droners...
Not sure Russia would agree.
I think he’s trying to highlight the fact the hobby isn’t a dangerous one. It’s also not forbidden to fly over all urban areas unless there’s restrictions in place. But kinda of agree we should leave the dogs out of this 😂
@@Ubatubadan That's fair, if the "Karen" was citing that is was dangerous then it is a fair comparison. However she's didn't in this case.
If it’s an English Heritage site then you are breaking the local byelaw in place by flying there. English Heritage and National Trust have a zero drone policy in place and it is classed as trespassing to undertake a task not permitted under local byelaw. Although you may feel the site may be ‘public’, you are confusing public access with a right to do what you want. In this case you are the Karen by enforcing your actions and opinions on everyone despite being in the wrong.
I like the angle you’re coming from, however leaving it open to public after closing hours.. with no signs, I use an app regulated by the government to state where I can fly and when I selected this location, it gives me no warnings or issues with flying here.
@ that’s not how the law works sadly. They don’t need signs for the byelaw to be in effect. Technically you are confusing airspace with ground space. Your app (I’m guessing Drone Assist) shows only what airspace you can fly in, you must still not commit trespass at the point of take-off (this is covered in the CAA regulations and law too). So you can overfly from outside of their land (subject to maintaining separation to the public etc), but you cannot legally take-off from their land, closed or not. Up to you what you do, but understand ignorance of the law is no defence, if the police stop you, you face prosecution for multiple offences, as well as any insurance you may have not being valid.
As this is an area open to the public, it can legally be classed as a “built up area used for recreation”, therefore you cannot fly there under the A3 Open Category either, you must be 150m horizontally from it.
Rather than telling this woman in the video you are licensed, you should maybe check the law and correctly understand what you can and can’t do.
@ appreciate the feedback mate hope you liked the video
Great flying, but I'm afraid to say you are in the wrong here. English Heritage does have a ban on flying drones. While you are allowed to fly in the airspace, so long as there are no other restrictions, landowners are allowed to withold permission to take off and land from their property. That is effectively what English Heritage is doing. I'm also afraid to say that you are not helping the cause of FPV flyers flying in public. These sorts of people are annoying, but such is life and arguing when you are in the wrong does nobody any good here. If you had taken off outside of the property (with permission) and were flying overhead (safely and responsibly), then you would have been fine. Stay safe!
Fpv pilots have rights to fly in the uk too, yeah where I overstepped the mark was taking off from there land, however there was nobody there to ask permission from and clearly walking up from the road there was no signs stating I couldn’t fly. Although I do agree with you, it’s frustrating being an Fpv pilot in the UK and not given a space or designated area to fly. It feels like no matter what we do we break the law when it’s a harmless hobby that many benefit from.
@Ubatubadan hence why fpv will always be and stay a niche hobby. If it's not people telling you that you can't take off or land it's bandos being torn down so fast and they put back up boring housing projects lol 😴 Awesome fly spots are near and far between it seems anymore. Alot of people including myself get burned out from all the constant let downs of this hobby. It's really sad honestly because your right drones do alot of good for mental health but at the same time are being used for war so the innocence of drones is long gone from the publics perception.
Great skills but no such thing as a license, if you had a spotter they should be beside you. There isn’t a 5kg ‘license’ not sure where you are getting that from, took off on EH land which is private land without permission by the sounds of things. So she might have been grumpy but was within her rights, the vid did not go into much detail. Not questioning the skills or the relatively low risk of the flight. But monkey see monkey do.
I said I have a license for up to 5kg in the air and I do. My spotter was right next to me and let me know as soon as she was there, she didn’t even make it through the gate without me knowing about it. The drone is bound by the same sub250 rules of a mini 4pro.
@ what’s the 5kg license never heard of it.
@ read up bro, my channel ent here to teach you drone laws, plenty of them around! But even my (A2 CofC) covers me for up to 3kg I think 🤔
@ don’t be daft. I cannot see anything that talks of a 5kg license. The A2 is up to 2kg not 3kg. If you are in FPVUK fly under Article 16, that will allow up to 25kg for recreation in a recreation area, but more importantly it allows overflight with a 30m separation which is actually better than the A2 and my Operational Authorisation.
Go read up. It will be to your advantage if you get Karen’s bothering you. They won’t have a clue. FPVUK £25/yr and includes insurance.
Full disclosure though I am an Air Law examiner for FPVUK other model clubs offer similar perks like BMFA
@@Ubatubadan Though I have no real objections personally to anything you did in this video, I've got to agree with @gimbalair here. From a legal perspective, you were technically breaking the law. Even if we ignore licenses and anything about it being private property, drones above 250g can't legally fly within 50m of uninvolved persons in public (even further for drones above 2kg). I'm sure Karen would not consider herself "involved" 😂