Thanks been looking at a lot of lighting solutions, I love my strobes, but for headshots in a game of inches strobes take awhile to dial in. Westcott offers something similar but for a lot more. I might have to order these. Thanks.
Thank you for posting this video!!!! I got those lights a few months ago but due to other activities I have been without using them. I’ll go back to them soon.
dude, I was looking to buy these a month ago for this exact set up but there are almost NO (useful) videos about these lights. Thanks for this!! And I see you travel with them in the production manager 40.. I literally just sold mine maybe 6 months back I haven't used it in years.. haha regretting that now.
Great video. How big is your beauty light LED panel ? I'm about to order 2 FL150R panels and have thought about using the FL100 (40x60cm) for the Bottom beauty light ...
Great video!! Have you ever tried shooting the Hurley technique using 3 strip soft boxes and strobe instead? I wonder if it would give the same result.
The real advantage of using constant lights vs strobes is that the subject is always lit. I know that sounds obvious, but there is less lag when you see a small expression change on your subject, and less chance that the subject's eyes are closed. Also, because always lit the subjects pupils don't dilate giving more color to their eyes. The downside to the equation is brightness. When I use strobes, I can do three strip boxes and AD200 strobes and easily shoot f5.6 or f7 at 1/200th iso 400 or even 100, and the setup is bright enough. If I use my light panels (not the good ones pictured here) I can only get f4 at 400 iso 1/120th, but to keep high shutter speeds f3.2 or 2.8, and I find that I have some softness around the ears. The other huge advantage of constant lights is that you see the point of convergence. Getting your subject into that ball of creamy light is so important. The first time I saw that happen through my lens it sort of blew me away.
Thanks for taking us into your studio and explaining your light set up. What is the advantage of using LED lights vs strobes of the same size? Liked and subscribed. Hope to see your channel grow!
I use one LED (strobes for the other two lights) for one particular reason when taking headshots. Constant lighting will make the pupil get smaller, so you can see more color in the iris. Really makes a difference, especially in people with lighter colored eyes. Reconsidering using something like this though (although it'll never be as convenient as a strobe because of the wires and packs). Right now I'm using a Godox VL300 and it's a pain to carry around to gigs.
@@waynedennyphoto I guess typical built in beauty lights aren't strong enough to get the pupils to close down or keep them down when the strobe is fired?
@@jichaelmorgan3796 Not in my experience, but I also use Flashpoint/Godox lights (and admittedly, I have the older version of the AD600). I have seen on BTS vids that the modeling lights on Profoto strobes look a bit stronger, so I'm not sure if those would work. But that's a serious increase in your budget as well.
Thank you! Recently joined Peter Hurley's headshot crew and we were a little discouraged at first by the hefty investment of the Wescott System. Your video has given us an option that would allow us to get started much more quickly. Based on your experience using the Godox System, has it held up over time? Also, I'm thinking of buying the one FL150R (rectangular light) and two FL100s (they are currently on sale for a pack of 2) which would work to fill and bottom light. Do you believe that would work or would you recommend using the two rectangular lights (FL150s) for the Key and Fill? Thank you again for all the help.
@@toptierheadshots Thank you! To confirm, you use two FL150 not FL150 like what is shown in your video, is that correct? Did you make the switch at a later date?
Thanks for the 'show n tell'. My take away from it was...how much post editing is required to deal with the catchlights? The example you showed was really well exposed, but dominated by 'busy' reflections (IMHO).
I don't do anything with the catchlights. They are a very common catchlight for anyone who uses Peter Hurley's triangle setup. And I actually like them a lot better than, say, catchlights from the clamshell setup. You can see more examples in my portfolio here: www.toptierheadshots.com/portfolio
They are standard catchlights for this Peter Hurley setup. A lot of people like them, including myself. Check out my portfolio, I don't Photoshop them out. www.toptierheadshots.com
Hi! I'm trying to set up Peter Hurley's triangle of light with flashes, so I plan to buy 3 or 4 Godox stripboxes but I am unsure about the size. I'm between 12"x47" and 9"x35". What do you recommend? Right now my equipment is 3 Godox V860III and 1 Godox V1, 1 softbox 80x80cm, and 1 octabox 90mm.
nice! I looked at your portfolio and noticed that this even works with people wearing glasses, does it require much change to the set up, or does it involve any kind of photoshopping, tricks, etc.? It'd be great if this setup worked for glasses too because I wear glasses lol
This setup still shows glare in glasses, but the severity depends on what kind of coating the lenses have. The retouching process is pretty good at removing glare though. Just search on YT for videos specific to using Photoshop to remove glare from glasses.
This is very helpful. I’m looking at these instead of the Wescott Flex system for 4x the price. What sort of case will all this fit into if you are going on location? Thanks!
Thanks for the quick reply! Where did you purchase them from and how do you have them hung to the wall? This is close to the exact set up I was looking for!
What do you think about the Neewer light? Do you think someone could shoot this atyle with three of them? I really wanted ti find a 1x3 light but struggling - been shooting with kino flo diva lites but they're on borrowed time now!
You COULD. But I wouldn't like it as much, because the 1x4 Godox light allows a much larger spread of light vertically, allowing me to shoot half-body shots with ease. That would be much harder using three of those 1x2 Neewer lights.
@@toptierheadshots 2 end to end Neewer lights make a 1x4...just sayin! I have two sets (Total of 4)...along with rigid led panel I can put at the bottom. I might just give it a shot and see what happens
just got these lights last week- I'm using them for the first time this weekend! Thank you for the tutorial!
Glad I could help!
So helpful to see the placement!
I've been sleeping on LED lighting for portraits, but this video made me reconsider! I can't believe it's not butter(flash)!
Thanks been looking at a lot of lighting solutions, I love my strobes, but for headshots in a game of inches strobes take awhile to dial in. Westcott offers something similar but for a lot more. I might have to order these. Thanks.
Great tutorial!
Thank you for posting this video!!!! I got those lights a few months ago but due to other activities I have been without using them. I’ll go back to them soon.
Thanks for sharing about these lights and the headshot setup. What focal length are you shooting with for the pictures? Thank you 📸🌞
How the hell have I not seen this video?!
@MarkusPix can you do this with the Home Depot lights
Love it
Thanks for sharing...
dude, I was looking to buy these a month ago for this exact set up but there are almost NO (useful) videos about these lights. Thanks for this!! And I see you travel with them in the production manager 40.. I literally just sold mine maybe 6 months back I haven't used it in years.. haha regretting that now.
Glad I could help! Yeah, the production manager 40 has been super useful, and built like a (think) tank :D
Great video and work!
Thank you very much!
Did you choose these only for the space saving or do you just overall prefer this light over parabolic with single source?
I chose these because this is the Peter Hurley lighting style for Headshots.
Great video. How big is your beauty light LED panel ? I'm about to order 2 FL150R panels and have thought about using the FL100 (40x60cm) for the Bottom beauty light ...
Mine is approximately 1'x2'
Great job explaining, thank you!
How big is that studio space, and how far is the person from the backdrop?
10x15 room, person is about 4-5 feet from the backdrop
Any solution to control with "godox light" please ?
Great video!! Have you ever tried shooting the Hurley technique using 3 strip soft boxes and strobe instead? I wonder if it would give the same result.
People definitely do the same thing with strobes and strip boxes!
Yes, I have tried that, and you get pretty close to a similar outcome 😊
The real advantage of using constant lights vs strobes is that the subject is always lit. I know that sounds obvious, but there is less lag when you see a small expression change on your subject, and less chance that the subject's eyes are closed. Also, because always lit the subjects pupils don't dilate giving more color to their eyes.
The downside to the equation is brightness. When I use strobes, I can do three strip boxes and AD200 strobes and easily shoot f5.6 or f7 at 1/200th iso 400 or even 100, and the setup is bright enough. If I use my light panels (not the good ones pictured here) I can only get f4 at 400 iso 1/120th, but to keep high shutter speeds f3.2 or 2.8, and I find that I have some softness around the ears.
The other huge advantage of constant lights is that you see the point of convergence. Getting your subject into that ball of creamy light is so important. The first time I saw that happen through my lens it sort of blew me away.
Curious question what lens are you using and what's your normal ISO, Shutter and F-Stop for this setup?
Nikon Z mount 105mm Macro Lens, f/4, 1/200, ISO 160
@@toptierheadshots Excellent!
Thanks for posting this video !!!! Do you think this setup would also work with the Godox FL 150 60x60 square ?
You're welcome! It could, but the long lighting strip configuration helps you control the lighting more, I believe.
Thanks for taking us into your studio and explaining your light set up. What is the advantage of using LED lights vs strobes of the same size? Liked and subscribed. Hope to see your channel grow!
I use one LED (strobes for the other two lights) for one particular reason when taking headshots. Constant lighting will make the pupil get smaller, so you can see more color in the iris. Really makes a difference, especially in people with lighter colored eyes. Reconsidering using something like this though (although it'll never be as convenient as a strobe because of the wires and packs). Right now I'm using a Godox VL300 and it's a pain to carry around to gigs.
Makes the pupils smaller, and also it's easier to see exactly how the light is hitting someone's face in real time.
@wayne denny, I can get the entire system (including backdrop and camera/laptop stuff) set up in about 30 minutes. Which is just fine for what I do.
@@waynedennyphoto I guess typical built in beauty lights aren't strong enough to get the pupils to close down or keep them down when the strobe is fired?
@@jichaelmorgan3796 Not in my experience, but I also use Flashpoint/Godox lights (and admittedly, I have the older version of the AD600). I have seen on BTS vids that the modeling lights on Profoto strobes look a bit stronger, so I'm not sure if those would work. But that's a serious increase in your budget as well.
Thank you! Recently joined Peter Hurley's headshot crew and we were a little discouraged at first by the hefty investment of the Wescott System. Your video has given us an option that would allow us to get started much more quickly. Based on your experience using the Godox System, has it held up over time? Also, I'm thinking of buying the one FL150R (rectangular light) and two FL100s (they are currently on sale for a pack of 2) which would work to fill and bottom light. Do you believe that would work or would you recommend using the two rectangular lights (FL150s) for the Key and Fill? Thank you again for all the help.
I use two FL150s as the top of the triangle and one FL100 for the bottom light. Works great!
@@toptierheadshots Thank you! To confirm, you use two FL150 not FL150 like what is shown in your video, is that correct? Did you make the switch at a later date?
also- what size space is this? it looks like 10-12 wide??
It's approximately 10X15!
Thanks for the 'show n tell'.
My take away from it was...how much post editing is required to deal with the catchlights?
The example you showed was really well exposed, but dominated by 'busy' reflections (IMHO).
I don't do anything with the catchlights. They are a very common catchlight for anyone who uses Peter Hurley's triangle setup. And I actually like them a lot better than, say, catchlights from the clamshell setup. You can see more examples in my portfolio here: www.toptierheadshots.com/portfolio
This triangle setup give an unusual (not round) eye catching (see at 6:16). Do you keep it in post or correct it with PS? Thank you.
They are standard catchlights for this Peter Hurley setup. A lot of people like them, including myself. Check out my portfolio, I don't Photoshop them out. www.toptierheadshots.com
What ISO are you shooting at? And what’s your exposure?
f/4, 1/200, ISO 160
Hi! I'm trying to set up Peter Hurley's triangle of light with flashes, so I plan to buy 3 or 4 Godox stripboxes but I am unsure about the size. I'm between 12"x47" and 9"x35". What do you recommend? Right now my equipment is 3 Godox V860III and 1 Godox V1, 1 softbox 80x80cm, and 1 octabox 90mm.
I've seen people do it with three 1'x3' Westcott strip box softboxes
Are 3 Strip boxes 0.75' x 2.92' close enough or the difference is too big with 1'x3'?
@@toptierheadshots
nice! I looked at your portfolio and noticed that this even works with people wearing glasses, does it require much change to the set up, or does it involve any kind of photoshopping, tricks, etc.? It'd be great if this setup worked for glasses too because I wear glasses lol
This setup still shows glare in glasses, but the severity depends on what kind of coating the lenses have. The retouching process is pretty good at removing glare though. Just search on YT for videos specific to using Photoshop to remove glare from glasses.
This is very helpful. I’m looking at these instead of the Wescott Flex system for 4x the price. What sort of case will all this fit into if you are going on location? Thanks!
Hi Jeff! I transport mine in a Think Tank Production Manager 40 rolling case.
What is the size of the bottom light when ordering the godox?
FL 100
Where did you get the softbox for them? Can’t seem to find any that fit it
They are listed as an accessory of these lights on the B&H website and the Strobepro website
What are the black and white things in the walls?
The white one is my backdrop for the setup. The black ones are to reduce light reflection that bounces off the walls and back onto the subject.
Thanks for the quick reply! Where did you purchase them from and how do you have them hung to the wall? This is close to the exact set up I was looking for!
They are the fabric from the Westcott X-Drop backdrop system. We just get wall hanger clips from Home Depot to put them up.
What do you think about the Neewer light? Do you think someone could shoot this atyle with three of them? I really wanted ti find a 1x3 light but struggling - been shooting with kino flo diva lites but they're on borrowed time now!
You COULD. But I wouldn't like it as much, because the 1x4 Godox light allows a much larger spread of light vertically, allowing me to shoot half-body shots with ease. That would be much harder using three of those 1x2 Neewer lights.
@@toptierheadshots 2 end to end Neewer lights make a 1x4...just sayin! I have two sets (Total of 4)...along with rigid led panel I can put at the bottom. I might just give it a shot and see what happens