I got a notification that André Malafaia said, *Compromise: British Jarvis and American Jordan.* I don't know why the reply isn't showing up but wherever you are, André, you're a genius.
I can't tell you what a relief it is to be able to listen to guys just talk and be friends in a way where I, as a woman, feel pretty comfortable that the conversation probably isn't going to veer into gross misogyny or rape jokes or something. I love your energy and I love your friendship!
Damn is that really a feeling that women get when they see two dudes talking? That’s something I’ve never thought about from a woman’s perspective but I can see why now that I think about it
I do not say this lightly: you guys are THE first podcast I've actually been able to just sit and listen to and I've tried dozens. I don't know what exactly you're doing right, but keep doing it!
Same here! I just get really bored with every podcast it feels like they really dont want to actually do it and its really uncomfortable (not saying this is all)
Nice!! I love TMG, Let Me Ruin Your Life and Psychobable! and of course: very really good. of course if u didnt like any of those pods cuz u already tried it thats perf fine lol
I don't know if either of them will see this but I super appreciate two grown men talking about their feelings openly. I've struggled with a lot of self hatred Because I wasn't living up the some sort of manly standard. I really appreciate you guys putting positive energy out there like that. Much respect.
there is so much strength in having emotional intelligence and allowing yourself to experience your own feelings. you’re genuinely a part of a change in our culture, keep doing u man
The culture behind how we’re supposed to act as men is fucking insane. When I was 10, my dad died and I forced myself not to cry at his funeral because “men don’t cry”
fruitblend flavor I appreciate that! I’m doing well now because I’ve been able to move past that issue! If I have a son someday, I plan on telling him that story as an example of how society puts unhealthy standards on the way that men cope with emotional distress. Hopefully if we can teach our young boys how cope with negative emotions in a healthy way as opposed to bottling them up, it will lead to less instances of violence from men!
@@codybarlik4524 Yes, men aren't inherently violent. Violence usually results from a lack of emotional control. Not only would letting men open up decrease the likelihood of male violence, but it would also decrease male suicide numbers:)
ran into this while tryin to find something to ground me during an anxiety attack. Ended up listening to the whole thing. Yall are really captivating, thanks guys, love it
ok def gonna try this next time im having a panic attack. wouldn't think it would be grounding but you are absolutely right, it's the exact kind of soothingly mundane content that is able to distract you without dissociating you
When you started talking about mental health it really made me feel nice. Um I'm just not allowed to talk about that stuff often so I'd be okay if someone just talks about being a big depression, even if it sounds a little silly. Either way, it was really therapeutic to hear you talk about it.
Sometimes it helps to know people you like and respect suffer depression too. People can make you feel inferior because you're depressed so it reminds you that you're in good company. You need to feel a sense of connection because depression is isolating! There's a really good video on RUclips somewhere that has interviews with famous comedians talking about their depression; it's surprising how many very funny people are also very sad.
I don't have ADHD but I'm autistic and weed you smoke does NOTHING. Vapes, flower, nothing. I have to do edibles and I have to do a lot more than the average person. I always wondered if it was connected because every autistic person I know has a unique relationship with weed
Yesterday I watched an episode decrying "cancel culture" which is total nonsense to me. Happy to see Jordan point out that "cancel culture" is just people reacting to shit you did that they think is wrong. Loved it.
same. i think youtube and self employment appeal more to people with adhd because it allows the flexibility we often need. and as a side note i can barely see my phone because im aggressively bouncing my leg
Lmao I keep going through this! When I found out John mulaney also has adhd I had to scream because now that I understand what adhd is I see it everywhere
Y’ALL OKAY i’m about to over share i’m so sorry i’m an adhd recent psych graduate who studied adult adhd drug use for my thesis and you’re both p spot on that the boost in paranoia and the limited effects when smoking up are related to adhd. it’s cause your dopamine machine is funky so it reacts differently (that’s also why people with adhd get sugar cravings!!) lots of people with adhd use stimulants (caffeine, adhd meds, nicotine, etc) or alcohol as their substance of choice, because the stimulants help boost your dopamine levels and the alcohol can help manage your anxiety about any social issues or symptoms i always get excited about seeing other people with adhd also knowing stuff about adhd it makes me feel much less Weird about how many journal articles about adhd i have lying around jsyk i appreciate you
I just go physically kind of numb but my head works fine, it's not pleasant at all. My partner's a big stoner so I've really tried, he has a good time, I just don't. I'm not diagnosed but to be fair I am also female, it would explain a LOT.
When he mentioned this I got so excited - I've done SO much research due to it being a big part of my life however I've never seen anywhere explain this! I really have tried with weed but it just doesn't make me feel good at all. Woohoo! Answers!
"Everyone was killing people at the time"/"We're currently in a different time" Lol I love your arguments against that ridiculous "it was okay at the time". You guys are the best
I love at the 55 minute mark when Jordan is listening to the clip and you just see him processing what he's hearing while Jarvis is mouth breathing excitedly. I love that we can't hear the video
I love the fact that when you are sharing your emotions the way the screen is split it often looks like you are putting a hand on each others knee in an understanding way.
The solid minute of Jarvis breathing discordantly while listening to Shane’s garbo. I enjoy this. Also I feel very comforted hearing someone else talking about ADD, less alone in the struggle to quote “blaze it”.
Yeah. Cancel culture is weird. When it is used correctly, it is the internet's best weapon. But most times it falls flat and is people not making sense.
I would include writing a violent song about murdering his ex wife, using her name in the song, and depicting her as a blow up sex doll when he preformed it live as a cancellable offense
I'm like a year and a half late to the game, but I just wanted to share my weed experiences since I don't get many opportunities to do so. I have an artificial electrical tick in my brain that misfires every 3-4 seconds, causing my brain to spike in activity then flatline, which results in seizures. I've tried typical anti-seizure meds and nothing has worked. When I was 25, I was desperate for anything to help me just be a normal functioning human, and a friends suggested trying weed. First time I smoked, it was like a fog cleared in my brain and everything got quieter and calmer in my head. I could think clearly for the first time in a very long time. I was raised in an environment where "drugs are evil" so I was very ashamed that a drug was the only thing that helped me at all. I tried to function without smoking and I would end up sitting in the same spot staring at a wall for upwards of 5 hours, and I wouldn't be able to remember what I had done or whom I had interacted with the previous day. My brain malfunctions so drastically that I haven't been able to hold a job after the age of 20 because 5 minutes after being told to do something, I would forget someone even talked to me. The only way I can function without seizures and memory loss is to smoke week every day, and I struggle with that fact. I feel like I should just be able to struggle through my mental issues like normal people do, but when I'm sober I forget to even feed myself or my pets, which is dangerous for my health and theirs. I've had to accept that if I want to be "normal" I can't be sober. It sucks, but it's the only thing that helps. I don't have ADHD or anything, but when Jarvis said weed doesn't do anything fun for him, I understand that. I don't have hallucinations or feel impaired at all, just sometimes I laugh at things more easily. I don't have any issues with paranoia either. Anyway, long ass weed rant over, thanks for reading if you made it this far. ^-^
I'm about 9 months late to this comment, lol. But I hope you've been able to let go of some of the shame you felt when you smoked for your health. People have demonized marijuana, but the fact of the matter is that it is MEDICINE also! It has so many medicinal benefits, and people use it for so many things to help with their health, or recovery, or anything. So even if others want to be like "Shame on you! you're doing drugs!" you're really not. Anti seizure meds are "drugs" too. They're a chemical that you put in your body to alter your brain's function. Weed does the same thing. It sounds like you've had the time to process this reality for yourself, but if you still struggle with that shame, I just wanted to say that you're just taking another type of medicine, that has been proven to help with things like what you have.
There was absolutely no time where racism, pedophilla and bestiality was okay. If fact-if Shane fans could continue to ignore the issue-they would. In fact, they do.
Just chatting to say I think you bring up an interesting point about why people do different forms of art and the elitism of critiquing but I will say a number of reasons that people find many Adam Sandler *written and produced** films- which is a lot of work no joke, "not as good" has to do with how often they are sexist and problematic. And a similar critique for the Medea movies. Just wanted to say that because I think it should be acknowledged when we are looking at someone's full body of work. Its not just Adam Sandler does some bad movies and some good movies...he writes and produces arguably problematic work. Not trying to cancel anyone just a point to think about.
1:14:18 Bo Burnham was in his late-teens to early 20s, making content for people who were primarily the same age as him. Shane Dawson was in his early 20s making content for children and young teens. The dynamic between the two is incredibly different. If Bo Burnham were the same age as Shane Dawson, he wouldn’t have made the same jokes. In fact, there’s evidence to this point: look at the way Bo Burnham directed Eighth Grade. If Shane Dawson had any hand in that, he would’ve made incredibly tasteless and downright predatory jokes sexualizing the children in the movie. Bo handled the material with tact and even the darker themes were treated sensitively. There is no excuse for Shane’s past content. As someone in their mid 20s, I could not imagine making the “jokes” he did, let alone thinking they were funny coming from someone else.
Hell, look at the shift Bo’s content has made throughout his career. He’s now talking about more adult topics (such as living with your partner yk not saying that depression is something only adults can feel) and not only has his content grown with his audience, his content grew with him. Meanwhile Shane is producing the exact thing things he used to do all while saying “c’mon guys I couldn’t have said slurs and put my mouth on animal’s genitals! Look at me, I’m just a little UwU babie boi” while he’s like in his forties
Shane Dawson is a very good demonstration of why child sexual abuse=/=pedophilia, it's just power and not caring who gets hurt--as well as a good demo of why equating the two gets people off the hook. Shane's clearly not attracted to kids, or unable to control himself. He thinks it's funny. He doesn't care. He's not hot and bothered, he has power and he thinks it's hilarious and no one is stopping him. That's child sexual abuse. The idea that pedophilia and sexual abuse are interchangeable is why people don't think to consider his behavior sexual assault/abuse. Because abuse is always about power, and it isn't a mental illness. He doesn't have an involuntary attraction disorder, he's a prick.
"it was a different time" - i hate that excuse because it doesn't matter if it was socially acceptable at the time because it was never okay and it was always bad. Not only that, it wasn't even socially acceptable just you didn't realize
I’m coming to this one late, but I just want to express how beneficial the two of you are to conversations like this. You are nuanced, your each have a slightly different lens through which you see the world, you are empathetic, and you clearly work to educate yourselves. Based on the few episodes I’ve seen of Sad Boys so far, I feel like you could have make a positive contribution to any dialogue. Keep at it. ❤️🤗
Takashi69 was convicted of sex crimes against a minor. Just thought it was kind of weird to not mention that in-video considering you guys tend to call celebrities out for their problematic behaviors.
oversight! dunno if we mistakenly edited it out but TLR has 3 hours of content about all of his court cases / convictions and stuff which was the missing context.
Okay, I figured there was more context. I just wanted to point it out in case y’all didn’t know about his past of sexually exploiting a minor. It baffles me how he isn’t sitting in jail.
when jordan started talking about how his day was really bad and he punched a filing cabinet and jarvis was just like "careful," and jordan made a joke and jarvis like still took him seriously to be supportive my face was just like 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
The clips y’all were watching (D’Angelo and Shane and such) didn’t show up in this upload. On the video it looked like you were just sitting silently with nothing happening.
27:08 I actually worked with a guy like that. He does BJJ and buys into ALL of the toxic masculinity shit. He'll constantly offer to help me carry stuff from one end of the lab to the other but in a really condescending way, like he's my "knight in shining armour" or whatever BS. But then our lab had an intruder one evening (I work in a hospital lab in downtown Toronto; there's a lot of homeless patients, most of whom are harmless but sometimes, they're on drugs and this stuff happens). I was in the front area near the opening that the intruder climbed through, and he was in an area just behind the front. He LEFT ME ALONE WITH THE LADY HOPPED UP ON DRUGS. We later found out she had a needle on her, but luckily she was so out of it when she came to the lab that I'm not sure she registered that I was even there so I was unharmed. But all this talk about how him being the STRONG MANLY MAN and his implying that I'm a weak, tiny woman and then...well thanks, dude.
Wow I've never thought about how smoking and adhd don't mix well together, because how you explained it for you Jarvis, is the exact same for me! I was always wondering why my anxiety and paranoia spiked so high for over 2 yrs when smoking, and when I took a break I noticed that it decreased a considerable amount. But never thought that it could be connected to my adhd. Thanks for sharing a cool video guys!
This podcast is such a great source of comfort for me... seeing your friendship and being so comfortable with eachother and the internet about your mental health is so helpful and positive.
i have severe adhd and honestly i find that smoking helps calm me down when i don’t have my meds. but i get prescribed the heavy stuff at the highest dosage and thank god for weed helping me through it all
I don’t think Jarvis means to do this - I think he’s just so excited lol but he cuts Jordan off often here and /or says “yea” and proceeds to speak over Jordan when Jordan isn’t finished lol. I only notice because I do that sometimes too but it’s because I’m just so excited about what is being discussed.
I learned to improve on that as well. The problem with me as well is my friends come to know I'm a talker and dont talk much, so when I want to let them speak as well they don't after. But it's an effort and it's very helpful when you make it clear with your friends to tell you when you're doing it.
Georga Seebalack thanks for sharing! Yeah, I totally understand that. You’re right though it does help to preface it to others so they’re more aware of it - some can even help you recognize it in the moment and adjust which is helpful because we don’t mean to do it. It’s also good to have friends that have positive intent towards you and trust that you’re not doing it maliciously or on purpose - some have more patience than others.
Astrid Quarry lol, it happens to so many people but I’m glad we can interpret it in more of a positive light vs. just writing someone off as a “bad listener” - people just get excited sometimes and now a days that’s something I can appreciate in others because it’s a bit hard to come by in 2020.
That's really crazy. I've never heard of anyone else like me. I've got ADHD, and similarly- I have joked that i would be the WORST drug addict ever because the first time i didn't have any on hand ..I'd forget I had any interest and I'd just never do it again. I smoked (cigarettes) on and off from the time that I was a teen- and out with friends a a bar, I could totally blow through a pack .. Then go home and not smoke again for 6+ months because I just never bothered to buy anymore... But the next time I'd be out and I'm standing there, outside in line behind someone smoking ... I'm ready to bum one off the guy next to me.
Hearing yall open up helps me feel human in these isolated times. My sleep schedule and mental state have been out of my control lately. It's reassuring to hear others are going through it and perservering
I think as a someone who has a poor sense of comedy and isn’t the most socially aware this has genuinely been very enlightening. I really hope I haven’t been just making people uncomfortable and hope to talk with this to my therapist😅 but thank you for the direction!
i gotta thank you guys for having this podcast. being able to put this on in the backround, and just listen to idle chatter is really nice. it feels a bit like i’m hanging out with friends, and it adds a bit of normalcy to my day. thanks! :)
As someone who’s felt the need to stay quiet about my assault due to the way most people think of my abuser as a good person, it was extremely validating to be reminded that not all people believe that the mans reputation and livelihood need to be “protected”. Too often in any scenario I see people victim blaming. Whether it’s saying that “you shouldn’t have brought up that persons past actions” even though those actions may have directly caused you or other people harm. Or even just straight up telling people that they don’t have the right to have been hurt by something because it didn’t happen within the last 5 minutes. Time doesn’t automatically mean that someone has changed for the better either. I’m sick of seeing people use “it was in the past” as an excuse. Chances are when gone unchecked, people don’t unlearn what led them to their mistake, they learn instead to better mask their behaviours so that they receive less backlash.
Yeah, I'm suprised that there's not a lot of comment like yours. I suppose people who think alike somehow attract one another? (I mean the again Shane had deleted that video featuring that said furry. And God that whole situation is horrorific in all means, if anyone passing by this comment Cecil McFly does all whole video on it.)
@@jazzy5781 it people like that gives the fandom a shit name. It's generally a great place that's help me come out of my shell. Though admittedly it can be toxic at times. (But what fandom isn't toxic at times.)
Jordan's sleep issues are such a mood. While my issue is not a time zone problem, I am still awake constantly. My best and only friend is a HUGE night owl and sleeps the entire day. If I want to talk to them, I have to stay up stupid late. They will go to bed at seven in the morning. It is really rough when you have to compromise one need for another.
Wow, very good pod. I was watching it and getting ready for bed, and kinda had a panic attack because I was paranoid that I was having an allergy attack... But I had just smoked weed and ya'll happen to start talking about getting paranoid when smoking! Helped me feel a bit better :))
cishet white guy 1: *punches wall* cishet white guy 2: sick dude!!! Haha great way to display ur emotions haha so gnarly jordan: *punches wall* jarvis: careful 🥺 im here for you 🥺 i got you lovie
Oh man. This podcast makes my adhd brain happy. Idk what it is about it but I can fully process what is going on enough to listen to this. And I can multitask with this on and still process. Y'all are magic
This is old but as someone who is also not addicted to any particular substance, it’s straight due to two things. 1: I have zero object permanence as a neurodivergent person as well so when it’s gone it doesn’t exist. 2: literally everyone in my family are addicts of the juice and/or hard drugs at one point in life (like literally no one in my direct “blood line” has been straight laced or even casual par takers) so my tolerance goes high really quick. I have to take tolerance breaks from Tylenol and Advil, sometimes certain cold medicines. And yes I have chronic illness on top so life is hell.
I hate the excuse "it was different times" . Slavery was in a different time and still doesn't mean it was ok. There's tons and tons of examples of this. I agree with Jarvis it doesn't excuse it. I think the internet is modded and protected more now than it used to be. Love the pod:)!!
I’m fairly sure the Always Sunny blackface was meant to be a Rachel Dolezal thing, like Dee is trying to be a political spokesperson for the black community with blatant blackface. It’s cringy but it’s referencing a real event. Shane was actually just doing a minstrel show.
A lot of people already watched the condensed version about the shane situation on their new Sad Boyz channel. Or they may have watched it live on twitch or listened to the audio podcast. I'm excited about the video podcasts though :)
The comment about cancel culture is so on point. That's why I hate calling it cancel culture. I'm all for what we call cancel culture but it's not cancel culture. We should call it accountability. 🤷🏻♀️
Sleep is such a huge thing! I’m glad you noted that. I need to take my medication normally and sleep in a certain pattern and I can get out of the bed! Yay!
counsellor (with ADHD too lol) here: actually it most likely is an ADHD thing! some of my clients with ADHD report that weed helps them chill out and focus, some report no effect. I've personally found that I've had one of those results depending on the strain, but it hasn't been consistent. chemical substances tend to affect the ADHD brain differently than they do people without ADHD; around 80% of us will feel a calming/settling effect from stimulants like caffeine or cocaine for example. Weed has just been very very hard to study in North America up until now, so we can expect to have a much better researched idea of how marijuana interacts with ADHD in 10-15 years.
Hey does anyone know how can I access the rest of these podcasts? When I go to the SB yt page it only shows 4 videos going 25, 26, 27, 38 which is..weird. am I missing something? I know theres gotta be more out there
Explain to me again why this podcast isn't called "Jarvis and British Jarvis"?
Correction, Jordan and American Jordan
@@georgaseebalack6003 Then why did we even HAVE a Revolutionary War?!
I got a notification that André Malafaia said, *Compromise: British Jarvis and American Jordan.*
I don't know why the reply isn't showing up but wherever you are, André, you're a genius.
@@CERTAIND00M lm
@@CERTAIND00M PLEASE IM-
I can't tell you what a relief it is to be able to listen to guys just talk and be friends in a way where I, as a woman, feel pretty comfortable that the conversation probably isn't going to veer into gross misogyny or rape jokes or something. I love your energy and I love your friendship!
That's exactly what I was thinking I just couldn't put it into words! I'm comfortable and feels like I'm talking to two of my brothers
this is maybe the highest compliment we've ever received. thank you
Damn is that really a feeling that women get when they see two dudes talking? That’s something I’ve never thought about from a woman’s perspective but I can see why now that I think about it
Cody Barlik yeah sadly.. personally it took me years to find a decent chunk of male creators who i can trust not to alienate me as a viewer
angel I could understand that, which creators are you talking about if you don’t mind me asking?
Jarvis always says Jordan is the British version of him, but what if he's the American version of Jordan? 😶
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@@etherjumper why do you deny the truth
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Jordan's moustache looks like it's made out of felt.
I was just thinking about that I-
He only applies his moustache for podcasts
He's sporting the same stache my dad did in the 70s... It's glorious
He's really sportin' that Indian tech support look
It's a diy life hack
I think you guys could take on Danny Gonzalez and Drew Gooden in a "We are the Same Person" contest
Jarvis, Jordan, Drew and Danny are all the same person. Prove me wrong.
Best comment ever
Was... wearing the same shirt... a decision? Or do they just have the same wardrobe?
@@timotheahaider3822 💀
McBlazington 😱😨😰
I do not say this lightly: you guys are THE first podcast I've actually been able to just sit and listen to and I've tried dozens. I don't know what exactly you're doing right, but keep doing it!
Same here! I just get really bored with every podcast it feels like they really dont want to actually do it and its really uncomfortable (not saying this is all)
Y E S and i only discovered jarvis' youtube videos yesterday lol
Pretty sure kurtis Connor also has a podcast like this?
Same! This and Kurtis Conner's are the only ones I can sit through.
Nice!! I love TMG, Let Me Ruin Your Life and Psychobable! and of course: very really good. of course if u didnt like any of those pods cuz u already tried it thats perf fine lol
I guess im new here, i left auto play on and woke up in the dead of night wondering why one of the McElroy brothers was going on about CBD gummies
THANK YOU. I definitely think Jarvis sounds a lot like one of the McEl-boys.
it's a Munch Squad
@@SonjaPond it's griffin isn't it
my gf also thinks Jarvis sounds like a McElroy
I don't know if either of them will see this but I super appreciate two grown men talking about their feelings openly. I've struggled with a lot of self hatred Because I wasn't living up the some sort of manly standard.
I really appreciate you guys putting positive energy out there like that. Much respect.
there is so much strength in having emotional intelligence and allowing yourself to experience your own feelings. you’re genuinely a part of a change in our culture, keep doing u man
The culture behind how we’re supposed to act as men is fucking insane. When I was 10, my dad died and I forced myself not to cry at his funeral because “men don’t cry”
Cody Barlik i am really sorry you weren't allowed to grieve :( i hope you're doing ok
fruitblend flavor I appreciate that! I’m doing well now because I’ve been able to move past that issue! If I have a son someday, I plan on telling him that story as an example of how society puts unhealthy standards on the way that men cope with emotional distress. Hopefully if we can teach our young boys how cope with negative emotions in a healthy way as opposed to bottling them up, it will lead to less instances of violence from men!
@@codybarlik4524 Yes, men aren't inherently violent. Violence usually results from a lack of emotional control. Not only would letting men open up decrease the likelihood of male violence, but it would also decrease male suicide numbers:)
ran into this while tryin to find something to ground me during an anxiety attack. Ended up listening to the whole thing. Yall are really captivating, thanks guys, love it
ok def gonna try this next time im having a panic attack. wouldn't think it would be grounding but you are absolutely right, it's the exact kind of soothingly mundane content that is able to distract you without dissociating you
the same man talking to himself while distinguishing his alter ego with a mustache
And a British accent*
*thicker mustache
When you started talking about mental health it really made me feel nice. Um I'm just not allowed to talk about that stuff often so I'd be okay if someone just talks about being a big depression, even if it sounds a little silly. Either way, it was really therapeutic to hear you talk about it.
Sometimes it helps to know people you like and respect suffer depression too. People can make you feel inferior because you're depressed so it reminds you that you're in good company. You need to feel a sense of connection because depression is isolating!
There's a really good video on RUclips somewhere that has interviews with famous comedians talking about their depression; it's surprising how many very funny people are also very sad.
I have been diagnosed with severe ADHD since childhood and THC doesn’t work in the “stoner” way for me either.
Never realized this until today, always thought I was just messed up loll
I don't have ADHD but I'm autistic and weed you smoke does NOTHING. Vapes, flower, nothing. I have to do edibles and I have to do a lot more than the average person. I always wondered if it was connected because every autistic person I know has a unique relationship with weed
Yesterday I watched an episode decrying "cancel culture" which is total nonsense to me. Happy to see Jordan point out that "cancel culture" is just people reacting to shit you did that they think is wrong. Loved it.
Jarvis has ADHD too? Does everyone I watch have ADHD? Where were all these ADHD people when I didn't know I had it?
same. i think youtube and self employment appeal more to people with adhd because it allows the flexibility we often need. and as a side note i can barely see my phone because im aggressively bouncing my leg
might be the baader meinhof phenomenom or smth
What can I say, we attract to those we reflect
Lmao I keep going through this! When I found out John mulaney also has adhd I had to scream because now that I understand what adhd is I see it everywhere
They didn't know they had it.
41:42 when Jordan says “we don’t love one of you.. and we’ll let you figure out who” that actually ages well with what’s come out about Gus 🤭
Not gonna lie, I kind of love the bits where they're just completely still, listening to D'Angelo clips in complete silence. Very John Cage.
I love these consistent uploads 🤩🤩
Ikr? I can't wait for the next upload in two years. XD
I was going to make a joke about it being once a year cause I just found this channel then I saw their last upload
They start talking about Shane at 44:30 if you’re wondering.
I hoping for a comment like this!! Thank you!!
Dee -haha I’ll go back and watch what I missed later
Thanks I was looking for this lmao
Bless you, I scrolled so far T.T
Y’ALL OKAY i’m about to over share i’m so sorry i’m an adhd recent psych graduate who studied adult adhd drug use for my thesis and you’re both p spot on that the boost in paranoia and the limited effects when smoking up are related to adhd. it’s cause your dopamine machine is funky so it reacts differently (that’s also why people with adhd get sugar cravings!!) lots of people with adhd use stimulants (caffeine, adhd meds, nicotine, etc) or alcohol as their substance of choice, because the stimulants help boost your dopamine levels and the alcohol can help manage your anxiety about any social issues or symptoms
i always get excited about seeing other people with adhd also knowing stuff about adhd it makes me feel much less Weird about how many journal articles about adhd i have lying around jsyk i appreciate you
I just go physically kind of numb but my head works fine, it's not pleasant at all. My partner's a big stoner so I've really tried, he has a good time, I just don't. I'm not diagnosed but to be fair I am also female, it would explain a LOT.
Being adhd and oversharing go hand in hand 🤣. Are you on Twitter? There's a great community of us over there.
I feel nothing until bam - I’m nauseous or I faint. No idea if it’s related to my adhd, but it’s embarrassing!
When he mentioned this I got so excited - I've done SO much research due to it being a big part of my life however I've never seen anywhere explain this! I really have tried with weed but it just doesn't make me feel good at all. Woohoo! Answers!
I knock tf out with caffeine.
"Everyone was killing people at the time"/"We're currently in a different time" Lol I love your arguments against that ridiculous "it was okay at the time". You guys are the best
Ikr, In the Bronze age it was ok to stone cross dressers. The time period does not justify the action
So weird to watch this after the D'Angelo stream like I hope you consider him a friend after casting a pod for three hours
I love at the 55 minute mark when Jordan is listening to the clip and you just see him processing what he's hearing while Jarvis is mouth breathing excitedly. I love that we can't hear the video
It's so rare for me to be compelled by younger men podcasting together because it's usually a meandering, boring mess but I really liked this.
I love the fact that when you are sharing your emotions the way the screen is split it often looks like you are putting a hand on each others knee in an understanding way.
The solid minute of Jarvis breathing discordantly while listening to Shane’s garbo. I enjoy this.
Also I feel very comforted hearing someone else talking about ADD, less alone in the struggle to quote “blaze it”.
I repeat: thank you d'angelo for introducing me to this channel this energy is so good across the board
"Is Eminem cancelled or something?" really explains how I feel about everyone nowadays too well
Yeah. Cancel culture is weird. When it is used correctly, it is the internet's best weapon. But most times it falls flat and is people not making sense.
well he is homophobic and violently misogynistic
I would include writing a violent song about murdering his ex wife, using her name in the song, and depicting her as a blow up sex doll when he preformed it live as a cancellable offense
I thought Mozart's comeback was a more realistic goal...
Congratulations so far. I hope you get money for that.
I'm like a year and a half late to the game, but I just wanted to share my weed experiences since I don't get many opportunities to do so. I have an artificial electrical tick in my brain that misfires every 3-4 seconds, causing my brain to spike in activity then flatline, which results in seizures. I've tried typical anti-seizure meds and nothing has worked. When I was 25, I was desperate for anything to help me just be a normal functioning human, and a friends suggested trying weed. First time I smoked, it was like a fog cleared in my brain and everything got quieter and calmer in my head. I could think clearly for the first time in a very long time. I was raised in an environment where "drugs are evil" so I was very ashamed that a drug was the only thing that helped me at all. I tried to function without smoking and I would end up sitting in the same spot staring at a wall for upwards of 5 hours, and I wouldn't be able to remember what I had done or whom I had interacted with the previous day. My brain malfunctions so drastically that I haven't been able to hold a job after the age of 20 because 5 minutes after being told to do something, I would forget someone even talked to me. The only way I can function without seizures and memory loss is to smoke week every day, and I struggle with that fact. I feel like I should just be able to struggle through my mental issues like normal people do, but when I'm sober I forget to even feed myself or my pets, which is dangerous for my health and theirs. I've had to accept that if I want to be "normal" I can't be sober. It sucks, but it's the only thing that helps. I don't have ADHD or anything, but when Jarvis said weed doesn't do anything fun for him, I understand that. I don't have hallucinations or feel impaired at all, just sometimes I laugh at things more easily. I don't have any issues with paranoia either. Anyway, long ass weed rant over, thanks for reading if you made it this far. ^-^
I'm about 9 months late to this comment, lol. But I hope you've been able to let go of some of the shame you felt when you smoked for your health. People have demonized marijuana, but the fact of the matter is that it is MEDICINE also! It has so many medicinal benefits, and people use it for so many things to help with their health, or recovery, or anything. So even if others want to be like "Shame on you! you're doing drugs!" you're really not. Anti seizure meds are "drugs" too. They're a chemical that you put in your body to alter your brain's function. Weed does the same thing.
It sounds like you've had the time to process this reality for yourself, but if you still struggle with that shame, I just wanted to say that you're just taking another type of medicine, that has been proven to help with things like what you have.
the intelligence in this podcast is exponential
There was absolutely no time where racism, pedophilla and bestiality was okay. If fact-if Shane fans could continue to ignore the issue-they would. In fact, they do.
It has always been harmful. It's just that society was more tolerant of harming certain people
All of Shane punchlines are "it was a joke!!"
Just chatting to say I think you bring up an interesting point about why people do different forms of art and the elitism of critiquing but I will say a number of reasons that people find many Adam Sandler *written and produced** films- which is a lot of work no joke, "not as good" has to do with how often they are sexist and problematic. And a similar critique for the Medea movies. Just wanted to say that because I think it should be acknowledged when we are looking at someone's full body of work. Its not just Adam Sandler does some bad movies and some good movies...he writes and produces arguably problematic work. Not trying to cancel anyone just a point to think about.
True.
1:14:18 Bo Burnham was in his late-teens to early 20s, making content for people who were primarily the same age as him.
Shane Dawson was in his early 20s making content for children and young teens.
The dynamic between the two is incredibly different. If Bo Burnham were the same age as Shane Dawson, he wouldn’t have made the same jokes. In fact, there’s evidence to this point:
look at the way Bo Burnham directed Eighth Grade. If Shane Dawson had any hand in that, he would’ve made incredibly tasteless and downright predatory jokes sexualizing the children in the movie. Bo handled the material with tact and even the darker themes were treated sensitively.
There is no excuse for Shane’s past content. As someone in their mid 20s, I could not imagine making the “jokes” he did, let alone thinking they were funny coming from someone else.
Hell, look at the shift Bo’s content has made throughout his career. He’s now talking about more adult topics (such as living with your partner yk not saying that depression is something only adults can feel) and not only has his content grown with his audience, his content grew with him. Meanwhile Shane is producing the exact thing things he used to do all while saying “c’mon guys I couldn’t have said slurs and put my mouth on animal’s genitals! Look at me, I’m just a little UwU babie boi” while he’s like in his forties
Shane Dawson is a very good demonstration of why child sexual abuse=/=pedophilia, it's just power and not caring who gets hurt--as well as a good demo of why equating the two gets people off the hook.
Shane's clearly not attracted to kids, or unable to control himself. He thinks it's funny. He doesn't care. He's not hot and bothered, he has power and he thinks it's hilarious and no one is stopping him. That's child sexual abuse.
The idea that pedophilia and sexual abuse are interchangeable is why people don't think to consider his behavior sexual assault/abuse. Because abuse is always about power, and it isn't a mental illness. He doesn't have an involuntary attraction disorder, he's a prick.
"it was a different time" - i hate that excuse because it doesn't matter if it was socially acceptable at the time because it was never okay and it was always bad. Not only that, it wasn't even socially acceptable just you didn't realize
watching this while high is the best
jarvis just singing "sMoKe wEeD eRrYdaY" really speaking some kinda way rn
I’m coming to this one late, but I just want to express how beneficial the two of you are to conversations like this. You are nuanced, your each have a slightly different lens through which you see the world, you are empathetic, and you clearly work to educate yourselves. Based on the few episodes I’ve seen of Sad Boys so far, I feel like you could have make a positive contribution to any dialogue. Keep at it. ❤️🤗
Not to be That Bisexual, but... Jordan's collarbone... I'm looking RESPECTFULLY
Not I 😍
oh yes
Takashi69 was convicted of sex crimes against a minor. Just thought it was kind of weird to not mention that in-video considering you guys tend to call celebrities out for their problematic behaviors.
I was also confused by that, considering that his sex crimes seemed to be the most notable thing about him.
oversight! dunno if we mistakenly edited it out but TLR has 3 hours of content about all of his court cases / convictions and stuff which was the missing context.
Okay, I figured there was more context. I just wanted to point it out in case y’all didn’t know about his past of sexually exploiting a minor. It baffles me how he isn’t sitting in jail.
@@kaitlynr.9555 He WAS serving time for a bit but he got let out due to the Rona.
when jordan started talking about how his day was really bad and he punched a filing cabinet and jarvis was just like "careful," and jordan made a joke and jarvis like still took him seriously to be supportive my face was just like 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
I honestly thought this channel was gonna be abandoned ngl
I'm really glad it wasnt abandoned. I love your pfp!
The clips y’all were watching (D’Angelo and Shane and such) didn’t show up in this upload. On the video it looked like you were just sitting silently with nothing happening.
WOOPS!
ruclips.net/video/smEZYBpK9jM/видео.html
It took me a bit to figure out tbh but also them sitting in silence, their disgusted faces, jarvis breathing is just so funny to me
That was a bit awkward, but also funny to watch. At first I was like "did their minds just have a temporary blackout, or what?" xD
I loved watching Jordan's dawning horror. I saw D'Angelo's video, I made similar faces.
27:08 I actually worked with a guy like that. He does BJJ and buys into ALL of the toxic masculinity shit. He'll constantly offer to help me carry stuff from one end of the lab to the other but in a really condescending way, like he's my "knight in shining armour" or whatever BS. But then our lab had an intruder one evening (I work in a hospital lab in downtown Toronto; there's a lot of homeless patients, most of whom are harmless but sometimes, they're on drugs and this stuff happens). I was in the front area near the opening that the intruder climbed through, and he was in an area just behind the front. He LEFT ME ALONE WITH THE LADY HOPPED UP ON DRUGS. We later found out she had a needle on her, but luckily she was so out of it when she came to the lab that I'm not sure she registered that I was even there so I was unharmed. But all this talk about how him being the STRONG MANLY MAN and his implying that I'm a weak, tiny woman and then...well thanks, dude.
tell me why jordan is literally so gorgeous😀
Sad boyz 2 men (sorry)
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Legend
Wow I've never thought about how smoking and adhd don't mix well together, because how you explained it for you Jarvis, is the exact same for me! I was always wondering why my anxiety and paranoia spiked so high for over 2 yrs when smoking, and when I took a break I noticed that it decreased a considerable amount. But never thought that it could be connected to my adhd. Thanks for sharing a cool video guys!
What a beautiful couple of people talking to eachother.
This podcast is such a great source of comfort for me... seeing your friendship and being so comfortable with eachother and the internet about your mental health is so helpful and positive.
i have severe adhd and honestly i find that smoking helps calm me down when i don’t have my meds. but i get prescribed the heavy stuff at the highest dosage and thank god for weed helping me through it all
I don’t think Jarvis means to do this - I think he’s just so excited lol but he cuts Jordan off often here and /or says “yea” and proceeds to speak over Jordan when Jordan isn’t finished lol. I only notice because I do that sometimes too but it’s because I’m just so excited about what is being discussed.
I read this comment right as he did it 🤣 I do it, too. I have to try so hard to reign in my excitement to not do this.
I learned to improve on that as well. The problem with me as well is my friends come to know I'm a talker and dont talk much, so when I want to let them speak as well they don't after. But it's an effort and it's very helpful when you make it clear with your friends to tell you when you're doing it.
Georga Seebalack thanks for sharing! Yeah, I totally understand that. You’re right though it does help to preface it to others so they’re more aware of it - some can even help you recognize it in the moment and adjust which is helpful because we don’t mean to do it. It’s also good to have friends that have positive intent towards you and trust that you’re not doing it maliciously or on purpose - some have more patience than others.
Astrid Quarry lol, it happens to so many people but I’m glad we can interpret it in more of a positive light vs. just writing someone off as a “bad listener” - people just get excited sometimes and now a days that’s something I can appreciate in others because it’s a bit hard to come by in 2020.
That's really crazy. I've never heard of anyone else like me. I've got ADHD, and similarly- I have joked that i would be the WORST drug addict ever because the first time i didn't have any on hand ..I'd forget I had any interest and I'd just never do it again.
I smoked (cigarettes) on and off from the time that I was a teen- and out with friends a a bar, I could totally blow through a pack .. Then go home and not smoke again for 6+ months because I just never bothered to buy anymore... But the next time I'd be out and I'm standing there, outside in line behind someone smoking ... I'm ready to bum one off the guy next to me.
Got my snacks, got my coffee, prepped.
Go Sad Boyz!!
Y'all look like fraternal twins. Great pod 🖤🖤🖤
a lot of people that say “it was a different time” weren’t even old enough to remember the time they’re talking about
Is Jordan's moustache fake?If not,it's very impressive.
I think it's real just based on how textured it is, how dark his eyebrows and hair is and how well it fits his face. It's just really thick
it’s real and impressive!
Hearing yall open up helps me feel human in these isolated times. My sleep schedule and mental state have been out of my control lately. It's reassuring to hear others are going through it and perservering
I think as a someone who has a poor sense of comedy and isn’t the most socially aware this has genuinely been very enlightening. I really hope I haven’t been just making people uncomfortable and hope to talk with this to my therapist😅 but thank you for the direction!
Please don't abandon this podcast for two years I need this WE NEED THIS
i gotta thank you guys for having this podcast. being able to put this on in the backround, and just listen to idle chatter is really nice. it feels a bit like i’m hanging out with friends, and it adds a bit of normalcy to my day. thanks! :)
Love listening to both of you guys. Attractive men who are intelligent is a breath of fresh air
I didn’t know this is what I needed tonight but I’m thankful I found it.
this is probably the only podcast i can listen through and even work on schoolwork while listening. lov you guys.
As someone who’s felt the need to stay quiet about my assault due to the way most people think of my abuser as a good person, it was extremely validating to be reminded that not all people believe that the mans reputation and livelihood need to be “protected”.
Too often in any scenario I see people victim blaming.
Whether it’s saying that “you shouldn’t have brought up that persons past actions” even though those actions may have directly caused you or other people harm. Or even just straight up telling people that they don’t have the right to have been hurt by something because it didn’t happen within the last 5 minutes.
Time doesn’t automatically mean that someone has changed for the better either. I’m sick of seeing people use “it was in the past” as an excuse.
Chances are when gone unchecked, people don’t unlearn what led them to their mistake, they learn instead to better mask their behaviours so that they receive less backlash.
Pulling the Community episode but producing Cuties is such an indictment of the way producers handle content moderation in their products
I’m like really glad this came up on my recommendations cuz you guys are really interesting. I’m definitely going to keep watching you guys.
It is currently real sad boi hours.
Loving this upload schedule ✨
I find it a very odd that Shane supposedly did things with animal and the furry that he had on was caught doing that (along with worse things.)
Yeah, I'm suprised that there's not a lot of comment like yours. I suppose people who think alike somehow attract one another? (I mean the again Shane had deleted that video featuring that said furry. And God that whole situation is horrorific in all means, if anyone passing by this comment Cecil McFly does all whole video on it.)
@@jazzy5781 it people like that gives the fandom a shit name. It's generally a great place that's help me come out of my shell. Though admittedly it can be toxic at times. (But what fandom isn't toxic at times.)
I totally forgot about that, I remember now, I was still in the fandom, wasn't the video like about showing how good the fandom was?
Jordan's sleep issues are such a mood. While my issue is not a time zone problem, I am still awake constantly. My best and only friend is a HUGE night owl and sleeps the entire day. If I want to talk to them, I have to stay up stupid late. They will go to bed at seven in the morning. It is really rough when you have to compromise one need for another.
I’m sooo happy I found y’all 😭 feelin blest
Thanks for the Trap Lore Ross recommendation. Now I know what I'm going to watch the rest of the day/month!!
i didn't know jarvis and jordan were youtube channels i just had these sad boyz videos recommended to me a few times and started watching
What’s Jordan’s?
Wow, very good pod. I was watching it and getting ready for bed, and kinda had a panic attack because I was paranoid that I was having an allergy attack... But I had just smoked weed and ya'll happen to start talking about getting paranoid when smoking!
Helped me feel a bit better :))
i love listening to your guys’ podcasts 😁
This is really enjoyable and soothing to listen to, cheers guys!
Ah, saying they only like one half of the Gus and Eddy podcast Really aged well huh
In the beginning when you said “Hi kids do you like violence?” I thought you were about to start singing the fnaf 2 rap I-
cishet white guy 1: *punches wall*
cishet white guy 2: sick dude!!! Haha great way to display ur emotions haha so gnarly
jordan: *punches wall*
jarvis: careful 🥺 im here for you 🥺 i got you lovie
Oh man. This podcast makes my adhd brain happy. Idk what it is about it but I can fully process what is going on enough to listen to this. And I can multitask with this on and still process. Y'all are magic
This is old but as someone who is also not addicted to any particular substance, it’s straight due to two things.
1: I have zero object permanence as a neurodivergent person as well so when it’s gone it doesn’t exist.
2: literally everyone in my family are addicts of the juice and/or hard drugs at one point in life (like literally no one in my direct “blood line” has been straight laced or even casual par takers) so my tolerance goes high really quick. I have to take tolerance breaks from Tylenol and Advil, sometimes certain cold medicines. And yes I have chronic illness on top so life is hell.
Are we the same person because absolutely same
i watched the clip about shane dawson on the highlights channel but jarvis''s commentary on him is so good i had to watch through that part again
"Maybe I should take over the bloods" Under appreciated joke imo
Where can I find the other pods??
Why do Jordan’s eyebrows look so perfect??????
That opening line just unrepressed my memories of when I was an edgy middle schooler only just discovering eminem
nice pod boyz
"Did you ever have a stoner moment?"
Me in college: "Do I smell high?"
woww i didn't know they started uploading on this channel again
Jarvis, I'm subscribed to so many of your channels. XD This must be how those 1,2,3 Go fans (who I suppose must exist) feel.
I love the 30 seconds of jarvis breathing into the mic. Quality content!!
I hate the excuse "it was different times" .
Slavery was in a different time and still doesn't mean it was ok. There's tons and tons of examples of this. I agree with Jarvis it doesn't excuse it. I think the internet is modded and protected more now than it used to be. Love the pod:)!!
I’m fairly sure the Always Sunny blackface was meant to be a Rachel Dolezal thing, like Dee is trying to be a political spokesperson for the black community with blatant blackface. It’s cringy but it’s referencing a real event. Shane was actually just doing a minstrel show.
damn there aren’t a lot of people here
A lot of people already watched the condensed version about the shane situation on their new Sad Boyz channel. Or they may have watched it live on twitch or listened to the audio podcast. I'm excited about the video podcasts though :)
The comment about cancel culture is so on point. That's why I hate calling it cancel culture. I'm all for what we call cancel culture but it's not cancel culture. We should call it accountability. 🤷🏻♀️
Jordan’s skin is so good
The "name a website" bit could have been the perfect opportunity to plug your patreons haha
Sleep is such a huge thing! I’m glad you noted that. I need to take my medication normally and sleep in a certain pattern and I can get out of the bed! Yay!
Mmmm I don’t think your dislike of weed is an adhd thing, I have severe adhd and my feelings toward weed are...the opposite of disliking it lol
counsellor (with ADHD too lol) here: actually it most likely is an ADHD thing! some of my clients with ADHD report that weed helps them chill out and focus, some report no effect. I've personally found that I've had one of those results depending on the strain, but it hasn't been consistent. chemical substances tend to affect the ADHD brain differently than they do people without ADHD; around 80% of us will feel a calming/settling effect from stimulants like caffeine or cocaine for example. Weed has just been very very hard to study in North America up until now, so we can expect to have a much better researched idea of how marijuana interacts with ADHD in 10-15 years.
Hey does anyone know how can I access the rest of these podcasts? When I go to the SB yt page it only shows 4 videos going 25, 26, 27, 38 which is..weird. am I missing something? I know theres gotta be more out there
all of the audio episodes of the show are available on all podcast apps! unfortunately we didn't used to do video for the show