The One Rein Stop, Answers to Some Questions, and Cowboy Etiquette Pt 1
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024
- The One Rein Stop, known as doubling in the cowboy world, is a fundamental tool that everyone needs to have on their horse. It's the emergency brake the colts need to learn prior to being ridden outside. And it's a life saver for older horses that are having problems with jigging or selling out. In this video, Pat demonstrates how it's done in the Missing Link Snaffle and the rope halter. As always, there's a story or two about grazing and hanging horses. And Pat starts to address some of the etiquette and manners that every young man and woman dreaming about cowboying should know. Thank you for watching! We appreciate everyone's support! For more information, head over to our website www.thediscipli... . Please Like this video, Subscribe to our channel, and Share with your friends...
Pat's demonstration here is so important, I can't emphasis it enough. Watch this video 7 or 8 times until you totally understand.
I would have loved to have this resource when I was a teen. (I wanted an Andalusian too- spaghetti westerns...) I have spent my life with horses and horsemen, and have learned a lot more from Pat in these videos! My granddad was a cowboy, (XIT when he was a kid) and he worked on a ranch in Nebraska that used spade bits, and he learned that they were not the cruel tool he had previously assumed!
It’s rare to find a cowboy sharing his knowledge without a huge EGO attached to it.
Thanks Pat I love your generosity and down to earth manner.I learn a lot more than just horse stuff from you.
I’m from the Southern Highlands in Australia.
NSW.
How far is that from Mansfield Victoria?
After 35 years as a professional horse trainer, here's what I have discovered. Horse owners wait until the horse is in a full-out dead run before they decide to do something to save their life. By then, it's too late. It's gonna be a dangerous wreck. They gotta train themselves to react and correct the instant the horse wants to take off. Pat is so good at focusing on the important things. Things that could save your life!
Larry , I agree . Pat is teaching things every person should know. Refinement and advanced horsemanship is great to learn. But when I did clinics with Richard Shrake the biggest issue I learned was help people understand how the horse thinks, the basics of riding , teaching it on the ground and getting it right there before you get on the back. Understanding how to ride with balance, drills to increase your balance and seat, How to have soft hands and go slow . I think people miss the boat by not getting the basics down. As a horseman those basics that a rider must have are essential . If you can’t ride you have nothing to offer a horse. Everyone wants to be a trainer before they become a Rider.
“If you make it back, let me know how it worked.” Love it.
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I have used this on one of my Mustangs. Like you said, it has got to be immediate. I practiced it in the round corral before using it on trail.
Giving the release and loose rein afterwards is critical, but takes some cahoonas 😂
"Falling into Sin" I love it.
I worked at a 100,000 head feedlot which provided a hot noon meal for all employees. Later on some of the newer feedlot “cowboys” thought it was too much trouble to take the spurs, chaps, and hat off. Well the lunch room fed everyone including guests-there could have been head cattle buyers, owners of 10,000 head wanting to know why the death loss was high and the gains were low. The office manager was in charge of the lunch room and she most certainly did not allow spurs, hats, coveralls, overshoes in where we all sat down and ate. Some of the new young guys would get their pride hurt and go back to their locker room and pout. Never did they realize the importance of making good impressions and see potential in advancement.
If you are watching this, there is a good chance you are one of my followers... and yes, I have thousands. If you've been with me for a while, you know I seldom recommend anything or any other horse trainer. This man is the exception to the rule. I teach high-preformance and show training. This man teaches proven outside, real-world horsemanship. I highly recommend you listen to what he has to say.
I do prefer the term "doubling" to "one rein stop". "one rein stop" reminds me too much of those natural horsemanship wanna be's.
An absolute wealth of knowledge, learning and entertainment. Thanks!
Best demonstration one reigning I’ve ever seen. Thanks for sharing all your experience, couldn’t be of more value.
Leave to one side Pat’s no nonsense, practical, take it or leave it approach to horsemanship. One of the things I truly love about this man is his desert dry humour (it’s spelt right, I’m English!) and his cantankerous old man attitude. At 63 years old, I recognise a kindred spirit. Long may he reign. Vaya con Dios Pat n Deb.
I have watched this over 30 times in the last year or so. I practice this every time I ride to keep it automatic in my brain and body. It has payed off incredibly, when riding outside! Thank you Pat!
I've had to do this a few times. Not sure if the back legs were crossing. Now I know to make sure that is happening., Thank you Pat.
As a former submariner cook I have to say thanks for your insight and wisdom. You make me young again. Respect for your cook goes a long way we do remember you.
There is a special place in heaven for you sir. I can’t even imagine what that would be like.
Actual demonstration... of One rein stop...at 10:00....but don’t miss the preamble! Thanks Pat!
I've pretty much watch 6-7 of videos and when I checked d the time it's been 3-4 hour's a night I've learned so much from your videos Mr pat just love em
Thank you thank you thank you. I had an old barrel horse that always gigged. And everyone said to pull her into a circle, BUT never explained the crossing over behind. So it never did much good. Thank you for the explanations was to WHY .
Thank you! Now i finally understand Ed Connell’s book Hackamore Reinsman. Never grasped what he meant by doubling until you put it in plain English with yet another fine video.
Ive found in talking with people,that that part of the book and instruction,causes the most confusion to folks..
Another NOT SO COMMON ...... COMMON SENSE VIDEO....yup it's what I learned after FLEXION.. Thanks Jer
It be neat to see a bibliography or something like that of you and the misses. Video or photo s. Of when you where young.
Thank you for the videos.
I'm from saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada. Gracias
Pat's clear descriptions, and Deb's skillful editing have taught me so much! Thank you!
Appreciate how you explained the how and why of the one rein stop. Also how you praise the cook.
Best explanation and demonstration of the one reign stop that I have seen. Great video!
OMG. I've been a dink my whole life... knew the circling thing but missed the reason by. I thought you just circled till they stopped. Nnooooo. Disengage the hind end! Duh. And then trust them to walk. Never did that either because they wouldn't because hasn't disengaged the hind end. Oh, I'm so sorry Cody, all those years... you loved me in spite of my ignorance.
Love your cowboy wisdom and talking about problems in plain English. It is with many things in life: When you are too late you are too late. And when you can't prevent your horse jigging past you from the ground chances are you can't do it from the saddle.
You are so full of great information and common sense instruction.
Great video! So important to teach this along with loose rein, "walk and nod"! Thank you for breaking it down to help people avoid problems (before they start them,) and teach horses "you're fine". 😊
Omg I was that dink! No more! Thank you for your super generous knowledge sharing!❤️
Nice ♥️ thank you Pat
Hi Deb and Pat; thank you so much for all you do. You all seem to cover the many points that build a horseman that no-one else to talks about. Pat`s stories are a God Send because they us entertained and laughing. But the underlying gift with those stories is they keep his audience relaxed; which to me brings about the essence of learning. In the training of my horses, I learned many years ago the importance of a relaxed approach to training a horse. I am 82 yrs of age and have been breeding Arabian horses for 35 yrs. I want to be a better horseman and especially in the saddle on the back of one of my horses. Showing use to be a big deal to me. Not anymore. I want to do what Pat does with a horse in the wide open spaces. I have given myself 2-3 yrs for this to this to happen. After that, who knows? We are not breeding anymore because of our age, but I still have a few horses left on the ranch. We are located in Deer Park Wash. and our farm is Skyhaven Arabians. I find myself tapping into as many of Pat`s, wisdom filled videos as my brain can handle each day. These horses are really gifted athletically; much beyond my riding abilities, but I keep at it vowing to get better with each ride. I have a small schooling barn that I use for the lateral work along with the collection exercise that Pat demonstrates in one of his videos. I also work on the stop with exhalation and the relaxing of my seat in the saddle. My goal is to produce a really well-rounded horse. I can do some garroucha manuvers with him. I thing he really enjoys our time when we start to dance with the pole. However with that said, he has many things that we need to work at to complete his training that led up to the pole work. I think, like roping, he just took to the garroucha work. I know it made me feel good.. I would like to attend one of your clinics if that is possible. My e-mail is bahila73@hotmail,com. Thanks again for all that you do.
Bud Gilbert
Keep an eye on our website: www.thedisciplinedride.com for info on upcoming clinics. Where do you live?
I learned so much from just this one video thank you for taking the time out of your day to make it, God bless ya
Pat , you’re so right on. I had all these issues with my gelding and was taught this method, and it works 110%,
Nice to see someone teaching this stuff. Resolving a bolting horse is a big problem for green riders . First thing I do on a colt is give them their head ( in the arena ) and work on the one rein stop. It is a must for colts or problem
Horses . You alway go back to the basics on a horse with problems. You go back to fixing what someone did not take the time to do right . The foundation needs to be sound. Another thing about horses . You need to ride them at least 3 times a week. If you don’t have a partnership in body and mind with a horse you should sell them and get a dog. Make time to build a working relationship with the horse . It’s take lots of wet blanket to really bond with a horse . Lots of time reinforcing what has be taught and refining what’s been shared with the horse . A mistake is the best thing a horse can do because it’s a opportunity to learn . If your not a good rider become one. Go to a riding clinic or lessons . You got nothing to offer a horse if you can’t support him from his back.
Doesn't matter what you call it it's a technique that I learned over 50 yrs ago. It's golden. Worked for me any number of times!
The only horse that it never worked on was a running QH my brother and I were training. No one could stop him. We could pony him but a jock could not gallop him. So one day my brother in law said he could pony him if I could ride him. Dumb sh...that I was I agreed. We headed to the track. Everything was fine until we came into the stretch and that son of a gun ripped the dally and took off around the track out the backside and down shed rows and through walkers. I thought I was dead! He ran under a shed row and I reached up and grabbed a rafter and bailed. My dad owned him. We sent him home. He had a AAA speed index and I know he did that through those shed rows:)
Sorry I'm late to the party (I see you posted this a long time ago), but your story about the track cracked me up. I worked as a groom, at a track, for a few years. I saw some similar things happen, so I could totally visualise what you were saying. Usually they lost the rider along the way before they'd make it back to the barn though lol. I can only imagine the ruckus in the shed row. 😂 Loose horse!! 😂 One time a horse lost the rider during a race. The horse jumped the rail and ended up back in the paddock. Everyone quickly blocked it so it couldn't get back out on the track. Only opening for the horse was the open door to the jocks room...and in he went. All the jockeys came running out the other side. 🐎😅
Thank you Sir, great video. Very detailed, good quality sound. One rein stop , good tool to have.
Amen! I'm a cook at a veterans wellness ranch in Sonoita and I cant tell you enough how much it pisses me off when some dink hangs out and has no concept of the amount of work I have to do when mealtime is over and they sit there BS'en about this or that. I want a big sign that says "Eat, enjoy, then get the F out". It is usually those same dinks that leave their place settings a mess too.... I just smile and wave....
Oh by the way, the release on the one rein stop is what I've been missing on my colts. Thanks for that.
Glad you approve! Tell us about the veteran’s wellness ranch in Sonoita. We have family in St David and would like to stop by if it would be possible on our next visit.
@@PatnDebPuckett It is called Boulder Crest Retreat. We are all combat vets serving combat vets. It's on 165 acres in Gardner Canyon. We transform PTDS into PTG (Post Traumatic Growth) We are privately funded and not VA funded.
@@jonathanbollin5719 thank you for your service 🇺🇸💗
Thank you.@@jonathanbollin5719
Because I'm long-time California trained, I much prefer the term "doubling" over the "one-rein stop".
Great info that I will use on my horse. Also, love the horse you are on. He's beautiful.
The one rein stop is a life saver... At least it was for me. My horse bolted up a slight incline, like a posse was after him. Pulling on the reins did nothing. In desperasion I leaned over his neck, and grabbed his bridal/headstall just above the bit... And pulled his head around and stopped him. It was then that I looked to my left, over the cliff! Since then, "doubling" has been a regular practise.
Beautiful on the one rein lesson. I really enjoy watching
I just discovered your videos, I am enjoying them. I was raised in redding california I now live in northern idaho. I love working with my horses.
Thanks, Pat! I don't want to be a "dink"! I"m one of the ones who wrote you about a "jiggy" fussy, fast moving horse. This is great advice (as always) and I can't wait to get on tomorrow and try it out.
Lots of great advice as always. Thanks for all your videos.
I have been "recruited" to work on a small feedlot and ride young horses. I won't put they're first rides on them but I will kind of top them off I should say. I know feedlot cowboy isn't much of a cowboy but it is my first job besides helping doctor cattle and ride colts with my grandpa
Congratulations on the job! Part of the journey toward being a cowboy is to work in a feedlot. You’ll carry the knowledge you get there throughout your whole career. Be proud of it and do your best.
Also, the trick to spotting sick cattle is to keep an eye on the front end and the back end.
@@PatnDebPuckett thank you for the information they way things seem when we get thru summer I will watch pasture cattle
@@PatnDebPuckett the biggest highlight of the job for me is to ride young horses I LOVE cattle but I'm not near as handy with a rope as I am a horse
@@PatnDebPuckett would you recommend wearing tapedaroes in a feed yard
Been there brother
Excellente! That is a very good video, Pat. Thank you.
Such a great video in so many ways!!! Your instruction, humor and lessons are addicting Pat. Thank you for all the topics you cover. From Ojai, CA
Did a one rein stop on a draft mule at a gallop heading to a precipice.
I know I’m an exception to the rule.
Sometimes we get lucky.
another great lesson, thank you
,,,good ideas on the cheat grass dilemma.
Once in a blue moon you hear of a mule in foal, lucky you 😀.
Fantastic video! My family and I appreciate every one of them! Keep it up. We look forward to it!
Thank you Pat and Deb, I learned a new interesting thing.
One time I had a runaway on an icy street, headed for intersection with a red light. Pulled up on halter, with both hands. Just a few feet we stopped till light went green.
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I like your videos and your outlook is spot on.
Thanks for clarifying the one rein stop
Nice horse and I like your style and instruction.
Yeahhhhh I’am still laughing “IF” U make it BACK😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 dat was good👍🏽 just love this this
guy really just like his wisdom we need more of him in this world thank U for sharing can hardly wait for next SIR🤗
Lol! When I started out I had a young (4 year old) gelding, a race bred Quarter horse. I knew nothing about horses. I got bucked off rubbed off, and sometimes just fell off. This guy had a habit of trying to run around and go back to his corral. I learned to feel his back through the saddle and when it got tight on one side or the other, I knew he was going to turn back in a specific direction before he did it. I would give him a little leg to straighten him out and if needed a little spur to get him moving forward. I finally after a couple days had him moving out pretty good rather than the constant slow walking and trying to turn around. Coming back was a bit different. He would try to run back. I did those one rein stops like you showed, but then asked him to walk out the opposite way after the stop. He finally was okay with walking back to the corral. The next thing I discovered was he did not like to stop and stand still, so we did some of that. He tried a bit of crow hopping and then I would make him move out away from the direction of the corral. In the end he turned out to be a decent horse for me. I had let a cutting horse trainer ride him one day and he told me he had never ridden such a difficult horse. Lol! He asked if I had any problems with him, I just said, "Not much, just took awhile to come to an understanding." He answered back, "As well as you ride that horse, you can ride anything." I just smiled while I tried to make sure all my scrapes and bruises were all covered up.
One thing though I did lean about run aways, stay calm and ride it out until you have a relatively safe place to stop them. On the side of a steep hill or in a pile of thick brush or windfall is no place the deal with that, pick you spot and then do the one rein stop. I learned the the hard way, you all are lucky to have a knowledgeable horseman who will take time to show you.
thanks
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍 👍
Great job, Prof. When we get together sometime I'll tell you about a big 16 hand Palomino that ran away and almost got me hurt. Hind quarters were fully engaged... :{)
Eric Gorsuch Music if his hind end is really engaged, then he’s running in a circle, which is the first step to a stop, if he’s already learned to give to the bit, and you’re not doing a steady pull, but pulsing, and Release,/slack, he’ll stop. Practice first in arena first
I really enjoy all your videos... Even though Im not a cowboy. Maybe in my dreams. I used to know a Pat Puckett as a kid in Vista CA. Are you the same?
Hello old friend! I remember your car on the top of the pile at the junk yard. Good times!
My horse is the opposite at times. Sometimes He doesn't want to go back the same way we came an doesnt care where the barn is. He'll just put the park brake on if we head back same way we came. Have to make a circle around and not the same circle as last time haha. But if i turn him to keep heading out hell keep goin.
Hey Pat and Deb, John McFadden, Rocky Mountain House Alberta, Canada, here.
This was a great video. That one rein stop should be known to everyone, including going to a slack rein immediately after the horse corrects its behaviour..
One question though; prior to going to the halter you were using a snaffle bit and if I saw things correctly you had a chin (or curb) strap running from bit ring to to bit ring under the horse's jaw, and that strap was attached behind, or above, where the reins fastened to the bit rings, which, to me at least, has always been the right place for the chin strap contrary to what many people do, which is to attach the chin strap in front of the reins. My logic is that having that strap behind the reins puts it into contact with the underside of the horse's jaw, albeit only slightly, when you pull back on the reins while attaching it in front of the reins means it just hangs under the horses chin irrespective of what the reins are doing. Am I seeing things correctly, and what is your opinion on the proper location of the chin strap on an o-ring snaffle, ahead or behind the reins?
BTW: The snow's finally gone here so I took one of my wild-born 'farm trucks' out by himself today and had a great ride using many of the techniques you suggest, so thanks for that!
We put the curb strap above the reins so the horse won’t lip it. It doesn’t have any purpose except to keep the bit from being pulled through the horse’s mouth in a one rein stop.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thanks Deb... at least my vision is still good...
I hope you both are doing well. I miss the neighborhood greatly. Interesting take on the cheat grass control as well, I'm happy to talk to someone with sheep if the opportunity arises.
Agree
This was extremely heloful instructional. Thank you. But, how I wish I could send my mare to you.
Great video. Well done.
Very good information Pat enjoy every word.
Deb’s mule, is going to have a baby mule. Interesting, keep us posted. A mule bred to a mule is how I’m understanding it......hummm unusual. Hope all goes well when the mule goes into giving birth.
Actually that was sarcasm. That’s not my mule. And she’s not in foal. That’s Ms Martina who belongs to a friend. We’re just looking after her for awhile. She’s an awesome mule but needs to go on Weight Watchers!
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Thank you
Thanks for video
Excellent!! I'm from the east coast. Could you further explain loco weed? What is it all about?
It works for horses that spook as well
That's the only thing that saved my butt on a thoroughbred running off with me. A cowboy taught me imagine that. Believe this... I hope that arabs name was different lol.
That is very good advice in the cookhouse
Thank you for this video. Many people would say that the rope halter should never be tied that low on the nose as the cartilage can easily be broken. Would you mind responding to that. Thank you
We’ve never had that happen. I suppose if you made a complete dally or lost your temper, something like that might happen. When you’re careening toward a cliff, it’s nice to have all the leverage you need.
@@PatnDebPuckett I think you are right :) .Thank you for your response.
I've heard of the "calvary stop" was wondering if you could explain it?
Thank you.
From Wickenburg AZ.
I think it’s just bailing off and trying to land on your feet. Kick your feet out of the stirrups, swing off, and hope for the best!
Why are there plants growing in the desert? Primary water. Never a shortage anywhere. Love your teaching style dude.
We have a shortage here.
@@PatnDebPuckett Primary water is under the ground. Brooks, streams, rivers, natural waterfalls. Well water is not allowed in most places. It's all about control. Check it out. Primary water is under all continents and there is no such thing as water shortages. Ask yourself how a desert can build an oasis. It's not from rain or cloud seeding.
@@smasco6447 We have a well. It is 600 feet deep. It yields less than 1 gallon per minute of strata water. I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. I have lived in a number of desert states in the western US. There are aquifers, water that is contained in the strata. The continents do not float on an underground lake that is accessible from everywhere. There is most definitely a shortage of water in much of the west because the aquifers are not being recharged fast enough to keep up with demand and the snow and rainfall is becoming less and less to offset the demand for water. Your statement that there is no such thing as a water shortage is both heartbreaking and ignorant. Unless you can show me your PHD in the hydrology of the west, you need to sit down.
@@PatnDebPuckett a recent study reported in the SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN documented the presence of vast quantities of water locked far beneath the earth’s surface. That study confirmed "that there is a very, very large amount of water that's trapped in a really distinct layer in the deep Earth…[ ]approaching the sort of mass of water that's present in all the world's ocean": Link........
That study full of distractions. So dig more wells Infrastructure to pump it. Ammon Bundy Grand parents did it. The reason for blm (land management) (not about any tax. About the water infrastructure. www.primarywaterinstitute.org/
Pat, are you familiar with rules on using goats to graze off cheat grass, and other undesirables? Are the rules similar to sheep?
That probably varies geographically. From what we’ve heard, grazing goats has to do with specific contracts for certain noxious weeds.
Like this
But I like the long stories!
I have about a thousand questions about starting in my first outfit and instead of boring you with them I Have noticed that you have a book on your store. I was wondering if it could be used as a how to wouldn't you say?
I had that problem too with my Arab took a while but got er to go home at a walk out last em
There is nothing so important as the one rein stop.
On the places I've worked, you NEVER pass the boss unless he sends you....even on the way home.
Gee whiz Pat, when I was was ridin' for Rancho Seco we visited Arivaca quite a lot. Sure there may have been everything there you mentioned but you forgot to mention the real good Klondike bars found at the general store! 🤠
And don’t forget the lemon bars at the bakery!
Pat and Deb, dang we never found any lemon bars. We would drink an iced coffee mocha shake like thang at the coffee shop just east of town. And we liked their lox and bagels depending on who made it.
Pat I have this mare that hates leaving her mate just this last summer I left her mate in the yards and rode out to the back of my place then rode home then out again three time I did this then she reared up for no reason that I could see I came off not happy . How do I stop her from being buddy sour ?
Coming in and going back out again doesn’t teach a horse anything except resentment and frustration. Some things to try are when you leave, leave with purpose at a trot. Pick the roughest terrain you can manage so the horse has to think about something other than the horses at home. Don’t go straight out and straight back. Make a circle. Once your within a mile or so of home, insist that the horse walk by doing the one rein stop if the horse tries to jig. Once home, do not unsaddle and turn the horse out. Instead, do some other exercises like the logs. Get off, loosen the cinch, offer a drink of water and then hang your horse for several hours before you unsaddle and turn him out. This mentality makes going home not nearly as attractive a proposition. Also, if you have a place you can hang your horse where he can’t see the other horses, that is the best bet. Good luck. It’s a hard habit to break so don’t expect immediate results. It will take time to make new habits.
Start about 8 minutes in. Help for the horse that won’t settle into a nice walk.
Nothing like being at a full gallop with the the neck bent full around and nothin stopping .. possibly chickened out too soon .
Kent from Minnesota hey pat and deb I had A cowboy tell me when his horse wants to run he helps them do it. When they come back down. Then he says come on let's run now it's my idea. What are your thoughts on that? Thank you
It never works. They just run farther and faster each time. Make them stay with you and make them walk when you want to walk, trot when you want to trot, and lope when you want to lope. Period. We’ve found that the people who use this “make ‘em run” method are usually doing it out of contempt and frustration.
thanks folks for sharing, we got the by golly national head office for the BLM right here in town now. hasn't helped, they were supposed to be out in the real AG country where they would get input direct. Still gotta teach them to listen. can't call a deaf cat.
How does one go about getting experience to get a job on a big outfit? That’s the direction I want to go in life but I have no experience with any of that type of stuff and where I live doesn’t help with that. Got any pointers? Thanks
I just noticed you have a book in your store about it. I might buy it tomorrow.
An old time once to me you get experience by experienceing thing and I have found alot of truth in that
It’s not easy but you need to look for an outfit that is willing to teach you what you need to know and give you a chance. What you lack in knowledge and experience you have to make up for in hard work, willingness to do what you’re told, and an ability to use common sense. If you show up every day to work with a good attitude, that goes a long way. There are many talented young cowboys out there who drink, don’t show up, and have a know-it-all attitude. Don’t be like them.
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I like the fact that all these vids are straight foward & BS from him & sugar coating it.I like em old timers..d.g.a.f..
When a marcial shot instructional? 😃
We don’t know which shot that is.
@@PatnDebPuckett 😲sorry, maybe i have the wrong name for the shot. Is the one from behind the calf, and you rope almost the entire calf except the neck, and have to wait the calf walk and get in to the loop the 4 legs, and after that the loop left only in the neck and finaly get the slack
We have called that the Palomillo. It’s impossible to learn on a dummy. You need moving cattle. Throw a big loop and hook it on the left hip by the tail head. The loop will go all the way around the right side and come out on the left side. Hold your arm up. Let the front feet walk through it, then the hind feet, and you have him by the neck. You need a stiffer rope. Practice at a trot, not a walk.
@@PatnDebPuckett yes, that shot is what i'm talking about, thanks a lot for answering!
Good stuff! What about keeping a horse's feet moving if they are sour to a spot or another horse? Is that good?
If they choose a different spot to stand do you reward them? Or does that depend on whether the work you set out to accomplish is finished. Context below.
Clay
South Dakota
I was trying to check cows and get a cow in. My horse wanted to go back to the barn so I let him choose his spot and started looking him in tight figure eights. I would try to head back out to the pasture and he would go back to that same spot so we would do more figure eights. We did this a few times and then he picked a new spot. The work was still not done. Should I have saddled a different horse? Done figure eights in his new spot? Or just made him walk out to get the work done by baby sitting his feet (and the direction they were moving [what I did])?
How many times will you put up with a horse trying to turn back before you let them go back and make them look figure eights (if letting them go back and making them lope figure eights is what you would do).
Pat won’t allow a horse to go back because that tells him he’s doing the right thing. You point the horse in the direction you need to go, keep him between your hands and your legs, and over and under him if he refuses to go forward. When he’s heading in the correct direction, make sure there’s slack in the reins and pet him on the neck. Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing difficult.
@@PatnDebPuckett can you explain what over and under him is? My two geldings have quite a few sour spots when we are riding outside on certain trails. They just plant their feet and refuse to go forward and I have tried pretty much everything to change this. Also happens with one gelding when we have to cross water, and I have to cross water to get to most of my trails.
@@vicki1141 Over and under: you must ride with split reins. Hold the reins with your left hand. Reach down with your right hand and grab your rein just above your knee. Swing the rein in front of you and hit the left side then swing the rein the other way and hit the right side of your horse. As I said before, you have to be aware to NOT pull back on the rein with your left hand because that wouldn’t give your horse anywhere to go.
Aman my friend
What about a horse that doesn't want to walk behind.
The horse gets anxious when ever ask to walk behind. He's fine up front
Just do what Pat suggested. Start him at the front, when he is good there, go part ways back, when he gets anxious, one rein stop there until he accepts that position in the group, then keep doing this at places further back in the group until he gets to where he accepts this at the back and walks out on the loose rein
as Pat teaches. And make sure this can be done in the corral or arena at the walk, jog, lope without trouble before you try it in a group on the trail!
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REFRESHING TO HEAR A REAL COWBOY HORSEMAN TALK AGAIN....... WHEN I CAME BACK EAST AND GOT MARRIED, LIFE GOT ME AND I NEVER WENT BACK OUT TO GOD'S COUNTRY TO COWBOY LIKE I INTENDED AND NOW AT MY AGE (73) I REALLY REGRET THAT A LOT, BECAUSE I HAD A "PLAN" AND I HAD A GIFT WITH HORSES, BUT I WAS TOO STUPID AND AFRAID TO PUSH PAST WHAT OTHERS WERE TRYING TO MAKE ME TO BE TO MAKE THEIR DREAMS COME TRUE(very long story) REALLY SORRY THAT I WAS SCARED AND DID NOT FIGHT HARDER TO KEEP WHAT I HAD LINDA, I LET IT GO TOO TOO EASILY FOR A LOT OF UN-GROWNUP REASONS.!! If ever, I would love to see you to talk............???? God Bless and if NOT I totally understand.........