Do you think that the traditional movement should accept being relegated to the faithful’s homes and private masses again? If not, what should traditionalists do?
Huh? How is earthly apostate Rome going to shut down the SSPX? No need to go back to hotels and gyms. The answer is before you. Archbishop Lefebvre squared off against the modernists in round one and beat them. Dont despise his gift to us.
Since Rome has broken away from the Church through heresy and Apostasy. Then yes, relegate the Holy Mass to the homes of the faithful while they build permanant Chapels, Churches, and Cathedrals to temporarily hold the offices of the Church. This would not constitute a break from Rome, but the restoration of Rome back to Christ the King.
The traditional movement is done if it submits to this tyrannical order. Traditional Catholics should stand up and speak out against this grave injustice. The Church is headed by Jesus. This Pachamama Pope Francis has revealed his true colors; it is time to wake up and resist him boldly.
I know a baptized Catholic raised in the Novus Ordo who now hates the Catholic Church and attends a Protestantized Bible study group who read scripture for themselves. As they discuss scripture they get into arguments!
Let’s pray for Viganò! God bless him and protect him always! He is our hero and martyr! And like he said it’s an honor to suffer for Jesus Christ and His True Church! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I really appreciated Brian McCall’s views on the Vigano situation. I think that he has more accurately understood Vigano’s position than any other commentator I have heard.
It was perfect time to call out Our Pope. Pope has confussed, and hurt many families and caused separation of families due to his actions. Papa is a divider. Papa infuses confussion in our hearts and removers our loving priests and now our beloved Mass! No doubt Vigano prayed for a long time and I truly believe the Holy Ghost is guiding him(Vigano). I Trust I. Jesus and know without a doubt that Jesus, and a hosts of saints and angels are united with him as he stands before the pope that desires to continue causing confussion, division pain, and anger.
The timing for Viganó could also be related to our election year. He was very outspoken last presidential election and they probably want to influence public opinion of him for this election.
@@marynagy8072 On another podcast they reminded everyone of Viganó’s latest accusation of Pope Francis being a McCarrick type, also. Either way, the Vatican has had their button pushed by him.
Thank you, God bless!🙏 I'm wandering the same thing ,what are we to do? My parish shuts down the Latin Mass ,the last Sunday in July! I'm praying hard and trusting in Our Lord and our Lady! It also seems to me that we are in hyper modernism, because the demon knows his time is short. on Pope Leo the 13th, vision!
I hope and pray that the FSSPX consecrates more auxiliary bishops. They have done this years ago. The orthodox have no need of permission from modernists and apostates to perform these consecrations. 🙏🙏
There is nothing of valor in being excommunicated from mother Church as without the Church, there can be no salvation. I pray that Vigano repents of his error and return to the obedience of the faith as disobedience has its roots in pride and ego.
Not a TLM only family. Just so attracted to the beauty, reverence. Makes it easir to believe and stay true to my faith. One son is almost TLM only, one is 50 50. Two religous Srs (our daughters) are novus ordo. The stupidest thing seems to be that the vatican is putting rocks and barricades in the fastest path to big faith filled Catholic families that believe in the true presence. How dumb does one get leading this Church? Grandpa Hill of Grandpa Hill's True Stories.
I think Archbishop Viganò is stating that he is just doing what Archbishop Lefebvre did; standing with tradition, whereas it seems as though Rome, under Francis, has lost the faith. At some point we need to realize that if Rome is teaching errors we need to do as St. Athanasius’ followers did, we need to stick with the men who speak the truth and teach the faith handed down by the Apostles.
Clearly, Catholics...Rundus' disagreement w Abp. Vigano aligning w the blessed Marcel Lefevre says it all. Disobedience is NECESSARY in times of crisis. I believe that Vigano will continue to be a voice for every traditional Catholic and those who know what is going on here. It's clear as a bell.
Hello! To be clear, I think Vigano aligning himself with Archbishop Lefevbre is absolutely a good thing and I admire his bravery and courage to be able to step away from a position of authority and power in order to learn more about traditional Catholicism and fight for it. However, I think he would benefit from the use of more precise language and added prudence when dealing with Rome, all things which Archbishop Lefevbre was so skilled at. No matter what, a fellow traditional Catholic who is obviously aware of Archbishop Lefevbre and seeking to do the right thing deserves our prayers and support, but insofar as he aligns himself with correct, traditionalist principles. I believe in some sections of his communique, this was not sufficiently expressed, though as we said in the Roundup, he may add clarification later on. Thanks for watching and may God grant you many joyful years, -Murray
O Lord, you who are so Merciful so loving and O Most Powerful, I come to you in true love for our brother in Christ, Hewett. I offer the most precious blood of your Divine Son, that you may shower Hewett in this most Glorious and healing blood that he, Hewett may be healed, spiritually and physically. O my Jesus. I trust in you. I trust in your Love, Your desire to heal us and your mercy to make our souls clean and our bodies pure. Please My Lord, My God, answer my prayers, in Jesus name I pray. Thank you my O precious Lord! Amen.
I do not agree with your criticisms of Archbishop Vigano’s response, your criticism of Dr. Kwasniewski, and your criticism of “resistance”. If you have been following the writings of Archbishop Vigano you would have a clear understanding of his response. Referring to Galatians Ch 1, “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? If I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.” So, we have a duty to resist false teachings and teachers. Let us all pray for Archbishop Vigano and the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church.
Roman Emperor Constantine broke the traditional mass when he decided the latin mass would be the language of the church in the 4rth century. St.Martin, an early Christian bishop, stemming from the apostles was upset because Constantine was appointing bishops because they wanted power and didn't even believe in Jesus. Jesus doesn't want division in the church over a language. St.Francis of Asissi was told by Jesus that He wanted the church to be restored to the way it was in the days of the apostles. Vigano was causing problems for Pope Benedict Sixteen also when he wasn't promoted. Satan is working very hard to divide the church. Jesus said we will be judged on if we give drink to the thirsty, visit the imprisoned....not on if we use the latin language that nobody understands which has evolved into Italian decided by Roman Emperor Constantine who broke the tradition of Jesus's church.
Vigano was appointed by Benedict to the Vatican office that Cardinal Pell later held...they investigated the finances of the Church and the IOR (Vatican Bank). Both men came to bad circumstances as a result. Vigano discovered over 50 million dollars in hidden accounts in the bank that was supposedly broke. Benedict wanted him safe from the thieves who were a danger to Vigano if he stayed in Italy and appointed him Papal Nuncio to the US. Vigano was distraught.
What languages were on the sign above Jesus head on the crucifix? Hebrew LATIN and Greek. Who translated the Bible into the LATIN vulgate? Saint Jerome. Latin is the root of many of our English words my friend (think maternity and paternity for example). Pater noster is Latin for our father. Mater dei is mother of God.
Did you expect Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor, to put up a sign on the crucifix in English? Must we follow what the person who had Jesus killed did? St. Jerome came way after the time of the early christians. St.Francis was told by Jesus that He wanted the church to return to the way He set it up during the time of the apostles, not the time of St.Jerome.
@@femaleKCRoyalsFan - Aramaic? I think Our Lord also spoke this language and prayed in it, as early Masses were in Aramaic- even though the written languages at the top of Christ’s Cross were as you write.
Do you think that the traditional movement should accept being relegated to the faithful’s homes and private masses again? If not, what should traditionalists do?
Reject Francis to his face.
Huh? How is earthly apostate Rome going to shut down the SSPX? No need to go back to hotels and gyms. The answer is before you. Archbishop Lefebvre squared off against the modernists in round one and beat them. Dont despise his gift to us.
Since Rome has broken away from the Church through heresy and Apostasy. Then yes, relegate the Holy Mass to the homes of the faithful while they build permanant Chapels, Churches, and Cathedrals to temporarily hold the offices of the Church. This would not constitute a break from Rome, but the restoration of Rome back to Christ the King.
Go to the SSPX or Faithful independent priests.
The traditional movement is done if it submits to this tyrannical order. Traditional Catholics should stand up and speak out against this grave injustice. The Church is headed by Jesus. This Pachamama Pope Francis has revealed his true colors; it is time to wake up and resist him boldly.
I know a baptized Catholic raised in the Novus Ordo
who now hates the Catholic Church and attends a Protestantized Bible study group
who read scripture for themselves. As they discuss scripture they get into arguments!
I am ready to go underground!!!
Don’t.We need to publicly reject Francis!
Let’s pray for Viganò! God bless him and protect him always! He is our hero and martyr! And like he said it’s an honor to suffer for Jesus Christ and His True Church! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Praying for Fr David Thomas, SSPX, ‘Pompeii Rising Project’ down in Florida. Talk about we have the building..
I really appreciated Brian McCall’s views on the Vigano situation. I think that he has more accurately understood Vigano’s position than any other commentator I have heard.
It was perfect time to call out Our Pope. Pope has confussed, and hurt many families and caused separation of families due to his actions. Papa is a divider. Papa infuses confussion in our hearts and removers our loving priests and now our beloved Mass! No doubt Vigano prayed for a long time and I truly believe the Holy Ghost is guiding him(Vigano). I Trust I. Jesus and know without a doubt that Jesus, and a hosts of saints and angels are united with him as he stands before the pope that desires to continue causing confussion, division pain, and anger.
The Novus Odor will become more and more corrupt untill EVERYONE leaves..except for the devils who will stay to condemn Mother Church.
The timing for Viganó could also be related to our election year. He was very outspoken last presidential election and they probably want to influence public opinion of him for this election.
Insightful comment.
@@marynagy8072 On another podcast they reminded everyone of Viganó’s latest accusation of Pope Francis being a McCarrick type, also. Either way, the Vatican has had their button pushed by him.
Thank you, God bless!🙏 I'm wandering the same thing ,what are we to do? My parish shuts down the Latin Mass ,the last Sunday in July! I'm praying hard and trusting in Our Lord and our Lady! It also seems to me that we are in hyper modernism, because the demon knows his time is short. on Pope Leo the 13th, vision!
🙏for Huit.
Modernists don't include scripture properly anyway - impossible to do whilst avoiding anything relating to sin!
I hope and pray that the FSSPX consecrates more auxiliary bishops. They have done this years ago. The orthodox have no need of permission from modernists
and apostates to perform these consecrations. 🙏🙏
I think Vigano should stand trial just as Lefebvre did. I see it as a kind of martyrdom since Jesus also stood in trial against the wolves.
There is nothing of valor in being excommunicated from mother Church as without the Church, there can be no salvation. I pray that Vigano repents of his error and return to the obedience of the faith as disobedience has its roots in pride and ego.
Not a TLM only family. Just so attracted to the beauty, reverence. Makes it easir to believe and stay true to my faith. One son is almost TLM only, one is 50 50. Two religous Srs (our daughters) are novus ordo. The stupidest thing seems to be that the vatican is putting rocks and barricades in the fastest path to big faith filled Catholic families that believe in the true presence. How dumb does one get leading this Church? Grandpa Hill of Grandpa Hill's True Stories.
I think Archbishop Viganò is stating that he is just doing what Archbishop Lefebvre did; standing with tradition, whereas it seems as though Rome, under Francis, has lost the faith. At some point we need to realize that if Rome is teaching errors we need to do as St. Athanasius’ followers did, we need to stick with the men who speak the truth and teach the faith handed down by the Apostles.
Clearly, Catholics...Rundus' disagreement w Abp. Vigano aligning w the blessed Marcel Lefevre says it all. Disobedience is NECESSARY in times of crisis. I believe that Vigano will continue to be a voice for every traditional Catholic and those who know what is going on here. It's clear as a bell.
Hello! To be clear, I think Vigano aligning himself with Archbishop Lefevbre is absolutely a good thing and I admire his bravery and courage to be able to step away from a position of authority and power in order to learn more about traditional Catholicism and fight for it. However, I think he would benefit from the use of more precise language and added prudence when dealing with Rome, all things which Archbishop Lefevbre was so skilled at.
No matter what, a fellow traditional Catholic who is obviously aware of Archbishop Lefevbre and seeking to do the right thing deserves our prayers and support, but insofar as he aligns himself with correct, traditionalist principles. I believe in some sections of his communique, this was not sufficiently expressed, though as we said in the Roundup, he may add clarification later on.
Thanks for watching and may God grant you many joyful years,
-Murray
I’m afraid he will end up as Lefebvre-excommunicated
@@angelamalek. Such rulings are meaningless coming from these apostates.
@@christopherbates1428 They’ll find out at their judgements.
Yes, it is absolutely clear as a bell! 🙏🏼👍
O Lord, you who are so Merciful so loving and O Most Powerful, I come to you in true love for our brother in Christ, Hewett. I offer the most precious blood of your Divine Son, that you may shower Hewett in this most Glorious and healing blood that he, Hewett may be healed, spiritually and physically. O my Jesus. I trust in you. I trust in your Love, Your desire to heal us and your mercy to make our souls clean and our bodies pure. Please My Lord, My God, answer my prayers, in Jesus name I pray. Thank you my O precious Lord! Amen.
I do not agree with your criticisms of Archbishop Vigano’s response, your criticism of Dr. Kwasniewski, and your criticism of “resistance”. If you have been following the writings of Archbishop Vigano you would have a clear understanding of his response. Referring to Galatians Ch 1, “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? If I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.” So, we have a duty to resist false teachings and teachers. Let us all pray for Archbishop Vigano and the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church.
Trump on trial , Viganó on trial....hmmmm?
If he goes, it would lend legitimacy to the apostate antipapacy. I hope he ignores the Bergoglians.
I don't think there is a comparison between Pope Paul VI, & Francis.
We need the Inquisicion back!
Need a proper hierarchy first
45:25 it's bad!
Roman Emperor Constantine broke the traditional mass when he decided the latin mass would be the language of the church in the 4rth century. St.Martin, an early Christian bishop, stemming from the apostles was upset because Constantine was appointing bishops because they wanted power and didn't even believe in Jesus. Jesus doesn't want division in the church over a language. St.Francis of Asissi was told by Jesus that He wanted the church to be restored to the way it was in the days of the apostles. Vigano was causing problems for Pope Benedict Sixteen also when he wasn't promoted. Satan is working very hard to divide the church. Jesus said we will be judged on if we give drink to the thirsty, visit the imprisoned....not on if we use the latin language that nobody understands which has evolved into Italian decided by Roman Emperor Constantine who broke the tradition of Jesus's church.
Vigano was appointed by Benedict to the Vatican office that Cardinal Pell later held...they investigated the finances of the Church and the IOR (Vatican Bank). Both men came to bad circumstances as a result. Vigano discovered over 50 million dollars in hidden accounts in the bank that was supposedly broke. Benedict wanted him safe from the thieves who were a danger to Vigano if he stayed in Italy and appointed him Papal Nuncio to the US. Vigano was distraught.
What languages were on the sign above Jesus head on the crucifix? Hebrew LATIN and Greek.
Who translated the Bible into the LATIN vulgate? Saint Jerome.
Latin is the root of many of our English words my friend (think maternity and paternity for example). Pater noster is Latin for our father. Mater dei is mother of God.
Did you expect Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor, to put up a sign on the crucifix in English? Must we follow what the person who had Jesus killed did? St. Jerome came way after the time of the early christians. St.Francis was told by Jesus that He wanted the church to return to the way He set it up during the time of the apostles, not the time of St.Jerome.
The reason many languages have latin words is because the Roman Empire had conquered most of the world. It has nothing to do with Christianity..
@@femaleKCRoyalsFan - Aramaic? I think Our Lord also spoke this language and prayed in it, as early Masses were in Aramaic- even though the written languages at the top of Christ’s Cross were as you write.