Why Borderlands 2 is Better than Borderlands 3
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- This is just my personal opinion on the games. Borderlands 3 is not the worst game in the world. It is just has an experience that is unenjoyable.
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borderlands 3 just got destroyed by facts and logic
some of thing in borderlands 3 just destroy one great game ever with by facts and logic the old games borderland 1 and 2 where way better good then this the third because they hade side bossess and all boss where good exspet mr shank he was just stalker nothing and borderland 2 was awsome with new feature and ability and eridium and seraph crystal and torgue tokens and golden keys and raid bosses ifen get legenedary and pearl weapons where challenge get
dude just say it or admit it that the storyline of borderlands 3 is total garbage not as good as one in both borderland 1 and 2 also in borderland 1 and 2 difficulty get harder if play true vault hunter mod and ultimate vault hunter more badass and better loot and enemies got hard to kill at least was challenge in thoose games and good thing why enjoyed it alot and for dexiduous you have to earnd it face him surviving wave enemies
Lmao.
Personally, I love them both. BL2 was amazing with the story and DLCs and general fantastic dialogue. BL3 had the gameplay mechanics topped, it felt amazing playing Zane and just speeding like a demon in the game and use all action skills. it is Gameplay VS Whole Experience. BL2 wins with the general story but BL3 wins with it´s DLCs and absolutely fantastic gameplay. Love them both. Tho one thing that BL2 wins with is, it has no Ava.
100%. I just feel borderland 3 was so disappointing in some of the aspects because of how it was the opposite extremes that borderlands 2 had.
I came back to BL3 after while of not playing, and tried to get back into endgame, and mayhem levels feel bad. I sped run to 11 as fast as I could cause the clutter was too much. I feel like a lot of your criticism is very valid compared to the general “BL3 bad” sentiment that occupies most all discussion. Annoints especially, getting to mayhem 11 on a new character I had a mayhem 2 monarch with the right annoying that carried my farm all the way will I was geared up to 10.
I was craving to play Borderlands 2 why i was playing Borderlands 3, most of the new planets are underdeveloped to me. Especially Athenas
Yeah Athenis would have been more cool if it had more maps but I don’t know how they could of tied the story to include them 🤷♂️
i prefer TPS: absolutely fantastic music, lovely dialogues, Nisha with a pair of revolvers and awesome low-gravity Elpis.
and yes, the Handsome Jack that shut down all the Claptraps - what could be better?
The thing is, it doesn’t have a lot of endgame content. It ruins it a little bit. If it had good endgame dlcs and raid bosses I would 100% put it as the top game. Tps has the best character design then all of the other titles
@@St4rkiller04 agree about endgame content, in rare cases it may be frustrative.
but i'm usually play until 60+ level, so i don't care about endgame)
almost absolute random weapon drop is much more important problem for me.
Bo3 has its problems, but overall, it's a dang awesome game, with insanely fun gun play and character building❤️
my biggest deterrent of B3 is how much shit is going on, on the screen during combat. feels very disorienting at time but other than that i really enjoyed my first playthrough of the game.
Maybe that's what I didn't like about it. While I enjoyed the game there was something off putting to me that almost made me feel nauseous. I thought it was the world design.
Exactly the same for me. The gameplay is faster and sharper in BL3, but it's just too intense. BL2 is just right.
I enjoy bl3 more than 2, takedowns, trials, the arenas and hermi fight.
That’s fair, but the trials get super boring because the endgame balance is super easy, the takedowns are good, and then the hermi fight is the only raidboss in the game compared to bl2’s ten.
@@St4rkiller04 Same. I love BL3 so far
tbh the 4th skilltree on each vh feels like powercreep broken stuff or trash filler skills. Iron cub and mantis cannon are essential to moze and zane endgame build variety.
I think the idea is cool overall and there are definitely strong builds you can make with out them. But I know exactly what you are saying
Yes because there was no way you could do the game without them right?
Say what you want, its all opinion, not fact. Bl3 is 5 years old and also still gets played/streamed/watched as much or more than Bl2. A lot of influential content creators are stuck on Bl2 out of nostalgia & it became really 'cool' to ride the Bl3 hate train, but the newer game has Bl2 beat on so many things that the argument is kinda silly. You like Bl2 better, ok, it doesn't make it fact. & it certainly doesn't mean Bl3 is a failure. In fact it's a testament to how good Bl3 is that it continues its popularity 5 years on through all the unnecessary negativity from influential 'forever bl2' content creators. You can like both, you can love the whole series, like I do. Having a favorite game in the series doesn't mean you gota hate on the other one(s).
My only problem with BL3 is the horrible writing of the character and dialogue.
facts. it would’ve been bad on its own but in comparison to borderlands 2’s story and dialogue it makes it sooo much worse
Idk the content in bl2 is jus more enjoyable and also playing through the story multiple times doesn’t feel like a chore so it jus seems obvious why people enjoy bl2 more than bl3
It does to me. No one shuts up, I’m stuck doing chores for people I don’t even care about, angel never shuts up, people like to dog on bl3 for it’s bad story but bl2s story is not much better the only it is to me is because of handsome jack outside of that this story is just another here’s the bad guy here’s a gun go kill him. I’m really not getting what makes this story outrank 3 when it’s not even all that better from the low bar 3 set.
I think the reason play at different OP levels is because of OP leveled gear. They need a difficulty scaling that doesn't have any mayhem/op leveled gear at all. This is the one redeeming quality of wonderlands, although they fudged it a bit. Voltaic gear, etc. Just only a few higher level pieces of gear unlocked as you progress.
I think that is a great point that gear needs to scale. Sometimes you need to farm for so much loot inbetween OP levels that it makes it super redundant. I like the idea of OP level progression as it makes you feel like you earned the difficulty, but it definitely needs to be tweaked.
I respect your opinion you just spat facts in my ears and I’m ngl it’s the sad truth, that some weapons get overshadowed by their mayhem version and mayhem levels aren’t as challenging as op levels.
Its just There’s a lot of facts I’m not gonna write an essay about how true this is😂
I appreciate the support 👊
@@St4rkiller04 no problem 😎
Please show me on the teddy bear where bl3 touched you since you wanna be dramatic
Modifiers aren’t bad. There’s plenty of them and are there for people who are bored as hell. But I will say they’re a more neutral element in the game because they are not all too great either if you’re trying to re-roll a hundred different times for a max-difficulty combination or a perfect-cheese difficulty. There should’ve been an option to just turn off all the modifiers that help the player and grant even higher rewards as a result, but other than that, that’s really the only thing that should’ve been added to the Positive section. Partial L take by 35%.
But man… Action Skill scaling with Mayhem is such a love hate relationship. I guess the devs made it that way to be a bridge to the OP10-like structure the most hardcore of the hardcore players love, but it also ends up being a miniature Fight For Your Life in itself if you’re a Moze player like me. I don’t know what they could’ve done to fix this honestly, this seemed like a losing fight since the beginning.
Oh and additional edit, man does Moze without Designer’s Cut tear through everything LOL. This is DEFINITELY a character who needed a scaling nerf.
@@ash._.es_._ to keep it a buck, everything with borderlands 3 endgame balance is just trash. It’s all over the place
@@St4rkiller04 as if bl2's is any better? Its straight ass with the underleveled gear and extremely restrictive elements that make uvhm doable with a few purps and mostly legendaries (that are a bitch to farm) because gear drops underleveled and if it has shitty parts it'll only further extend the grind bl3 is from a gameplay perspective is fundamentally superior given its choice depth and extensive weaponry
The story for bl2 was always pretty mid to add I like the general writing for side quests and dialogue but other than that bl3 is Still king in terms of everything BESIDES the writing
Another argument I see constantly moaned about in bl3 is there's no farming? Like OK lmao try farming a COM with atleast 2/3 prefixes that you want alongside an artifact with the prefixes and stat boosts and annoints for weapons
This is fundamentally the same in regards to weapon farming as parts are flat stat bonuses
You did a good job summing up these points. It appears most people can agree the story in 3 doesn't live up to the classics, while really liking the gameplay. As for me, the gameplay in 3 is "decent", but it just feels too "overwhelming". This is how I sum it up: The classics can be much more difficult while feeling much more "laid back" at the same time (if that makes sense) Again, it appears a lot of people prefer the gameplay in 3, but unlike most, the Pre-Sequel is my favorite, followed by 2, 1, and 3 being my least favorite.
I understand what you are saying. Bl2/TPS are some of a my favorite games in the franchise but occasionally I might play BL3. It does have some fun things to do and it is a pretty game
I agree the scenery/level design in 3 is quite good. Many would would probably disagree with my other major complaint, but it involves the skill trees. In 3, (other than the action skill itself) each skill-point doesn't feel quite as straight-forward like in the classics -- pinpointing exactly what each skill point is doing. This is coming from someone who never really got into RPG or skill-tree type games, so my opinion here may not be relevant to a lot of people. Maybe I just haven't played enough of 3, but in the classics, I could "feel" the benefit of each skill point, where as in 3, the skill-points feel too "all over the place" or something like that.
@@WitmerXL and the random mayhem scaling to skills is also confusing
I'd much rather play BL2, even today. 3 plays a little better and looks a little better, but thats the bare minimum you would expect from a sequel years later. In terms of the creative vision they had, it feels like all the passion left the company. A lot of the game, particularly the story, locations and character work is so phoned in. Its like the higherups at gearbox just sent down the orders to do a numbered BL game and no one had an actual idea for the story and didn't seem to know what they were doing at times with the structure of things when it comes to small details that really ruin the overall game for me like the playthroughs, the difficulty, the drops ect.
BL3 will not have the same longevity as 2 and its not even close. BL2 was an instant classic for its time. BL3 is mediocre and already forgotten. I don't think I'll boot it up again at this point. Meanwhile I keep the handsome collection on my switch for killing time traveling, and I mainly play 2 on that because it has the best balance of content, mechanics, drops, story and endgame. I'm worried for 4. The series may be lost in the vortex of all the other modern looting and leveling action games, which is sad since it arguably helped start the trend of adding those elements to an established genre.
I never thought of it that way. In the sense of the gameplay and graphical improvements to be expected. They are still impressive but I would hope there was improvements.
Hopefully they just make a borderlands 2 remaster so we can get all the cool visuals from borderlands 3 and have the better aspects from 2
I prefer the look of bl2
I’m sorry balance?? That’s funny you think bl2 is balanced 😂
@@nathanhendrickson790 it's okay If you're not any good and need to play bl3 because it's so easy. Things will get better
@@brandon9621 dude even veteran players agree that this game is not balance I have beaten this game over 50 times and even I can see it’s not balanced. Nice assuming though. That particular one is an old classic “he has criticism of a game he must be bad”
completely agree with ya here and most of the community agree id confidently say. BL3 is just a pain to replay, so many instances where you have to wait for a character to finish telling their dumb jokes before the game gets going. ruined the replayability for me
If the dialogue/ replayability of the story was better, the story would not be getting as much hate.
Yeah I had that same problem in 2. Not necessarily where characters won’t shut up (even though that’s true no one shuts up in that game) but it’s the fact that before I can reach endgame I have to do chores for the crimson raiders. But that’s not enough is it no I have to turn on tvhm and do it all again. Still not enough I have to turn on uvhm and do it all again. And THEN I can do endgame content. Thank god they made it to where pearls can drop without op levels reducing that shit show to just something you do if you want bragging rights but even without that bl2 is just exhausting. Like dark souls after anor londo or Elden ring after lyendell royal capital. This is why I stop my play throughs at tvhm. It’s why I prefer bl3 unless you want to play all the different characters which isn’t the case for me I only have to listen to the story once and then I can do endgame content. They made bl2 a little more bearable by giving us the option to switch to a level 30 character from the jump meaning you only have to play through two more times but it is still exhausting and by the end of it I was completely numb. I didn’t feel rewarded, I didn’t feel like doing anything above the DLCs I was just glad the uvhm grind was over.
I respect your opinion.
This is more proof that the Borderlands franchise caters to many different players. I am tired of all the "My game is better than your game talk" and "Your game is trash"...etc Just play what is fun to you.
I almost did not play BL3 because the community RUclipsrs hate it. Then, I had a blast playing the game!
Reviewers should have said "The story was not my taste but the combat is the strength of the game" or Suggest mods that would help the QoL issues with the story..
And that’s how I see it. If people like borderlands 3 over 2 there are not objectively wrong in saying that. The only thing I hate is when people lie about the games to make them worse or better than the other. That’s what annoys me the most.
@@St4rkiller04Don't kiss up to this punk, the game is objectively worse in every aspect.
In your opinion what RPG does endgame content/difficulty right? Diablo Torment 1-16 seems like the same as Mayhem levels. Chaos levels are like rifts I think which was nice but there was no farming? aside from the damn bunnies.
It’s hard to do difficulties that aren’t selected before playing the game. Games like doom eternal do difficulty settings correct and I feel like mayhem 4 kinda replicated than in a decent way. Sorry for the late response 😅
Warframe. Steel path, weapon crafting instead of looting, premium currency you can trade instead of spending money for, a legendary movement and parkour system, it’s basically everything destiny wishes it could be if it was actually free to play instead of free to try.
As for rpg it’s the souls games without a doubt from demon souls to Elden with the exception of sekiro shadows die twice. The games do a great job because it’s hard in mechanics not numbers
I dont know if i should buy borderlands 3 , 2 had so much stuff like You could play for weeks and the about of dlcs for a relativa low price make it a worthwhile game, doe 3 have the same value?
I would still recommend getting and playing the game as there is a lot of content in the game. If you can get the ultimate edition on sale that would be the best. It is an enjoyable game but 2 was the overall better game
I love both of these games for different reasons. I think the mayhem mode was good before mayhem 2.0. When mayhem 4 was the max in BL3, and there were no stupid modifiers, the game felt good. Mayhem 2.0 was the worst thing that happened to BL3 imo.
I have been saying this for the longest time. Mayhem 4 was perfectly balanced and the right difficulty for endgame. Once mayhem modifiers came, every characters skills got mayhem scaling which invalidated the difficulty.
Play in Mayhem 11
@@pacthe6376 mayhem 11 is fine for turning the modifiers off, but all the mayhem levels are so unbalanced, it's ridiculous. That's why they had to spend two years messing with all the damage numbers on all the guns.
I agree with pretty much everything you said and wanted to say THANK YOU for calling out K6 and his "17 raid bosses". I love K6 and most of his work but every time I hear him mention this I have to yell at the video that no there isn't 17 f'ing raid bosses! Also one thing did happen to make BL3 look amazing and that is Wonderlands. After playing through WL in what felt like about 15 minutes for the entire game I really can appreciate just how much content BL3 has in comparison. BL2 will always be my favorite though unless something spectacular happens in the future -- we can only hope for that....
PS. In my opinion it's a shame that presequel didn't get more time as it might have been the best in the series with a little more content and some minor changes
@@roonilwazlib4538 All you are spitting is facts and I love it
Yes there are. Raid boss values mean raid boss. It doesn’t have to be an invincible to be a raid boss.
So I disagree with the scaling of skills being bad for mayhem, weapons also scale. BL2 had OP levels and the weapons scaled. My thing about the skills is they were over scaled. Fire in the skag den didn't need to be scaled, but the other things mentioned were over scaled. They needed scaling else they would have been completely disregarded. Iron bear would have been stomped on so hard, Fl4k wouldn't have been able to do pet build damage (which without purple tree is still difficult to do), Zane would probably have been fine. The Gun Gun was a mistake and I honestly just ignore it. You can run builds without needing a specific anointment, they are not really dependent on it although the anoint system is stupid so this will be the end of my disagreement on this topic. When it comes to the non-unique argument, I can see it but to me it isn't the strongest argument against the loot system in BL3 (Coming from someone who hates the overflow of legos...) for me it's moreso the there are so many it devalues the rarity. Adding another rarity wouldn't really fix it for me, at that point just make legos commons and that new rarity legos and nothing would have been different. It is more so there are so many weapons that don't deserve the title of a legendary that overflows the lego pool. A way they could have fixed the endgame weapon scaling was with Mayhem, just make the mayhem scaling scale weapons that are not competitive against other weapons currently scale higher faster.
I play BL3 over BL2 because of the endgame and build making to me is better which is more important to me than replay ability, but BL2 is objectively a better game.
The difference between mayhem scaling on skills and having op level weapons is to negate double punishment the enemies being over leveled and the more health they enemies have. Borderlands 3 only has an increase of health which is removed from mayhem weapons and mayhem boosted skills. It’s one good thing vs good hard things in OP levels, and the opposite in borderlands. Borderlands 2 has some over tuned skills a well as a result of OP levels but it isn’t a changing value when increasing OP levels…. If that makes sense. It’s one thing to make things such as the pets builds or iron bear strong and there is another thing of making them the most powerful and easiest builds at the hardest difficulty. Good points for the other arguments and thank you for dropping this insight. 🫡
@@St4rkiller04 Excluding the loader bot I think Fl4k pet builds were quite balanced until the Guardian Angel shotgun dropped. At least in comparison to everything else in the game. None of the pets had a way to transfer their damage type from pet to grenade or gun, and elemental damage types didn't really affect pets much. It's mostly just the Loader bot that made the difference. I don't use loader bot for several reasons. One of them is the scaling is literally broken and the other is it doesn't fit the character to me.
Also enemies damage technically scales a bit as their attacks get environmental scaling sometimes, which is the second scariest scaling in the game. It's like 30 something times base value at mayhem 11, but it's not consistent. The only thing higher is pet mayhem scaling which was 51 times base scaling. If you are not running some sort of survivability skill or ability you will get recked doing True Takedown content, which I feel like they should have added the true button as an overall difficulty modifier option as well as an optional buff to the takedowns. Not the trials ones though, complete trash those ones are.
I think overall pet scaling itself was a good thing and not itself over tuned for the time the scaling dropped, but when purple tree came out it broke the balance like other DLC stuff did, then the Guardian Angel dropped which broke even more balance.
BL3 would have done so much better if enemies damage scaled with mayhem or they leveled with mayhem instead of just getting more bullet spongey, although based on the skill trees I doubt it actually would have made a difference due to the survivability tools that exist. Thinking about it OP levels would also have not worked in BL3 due to the survivability tools each character had.
Idk what the solution is, the capabilities of the characters were too strong to be out scaled fairly without insta down attacks.
(Just about everything else I have not commented on I agree with your statement on)
@@stereolotus77 I have been saying the same thing about having a true difficulty for the game over all. That would have been an amazing fix. For Fl4k’s pet build after the release of the loader pet, all the other pets were good, but the loader had the piss missiles that did crazy damage at range. That’s why most people used it. The endgame difficulty is so screwed in the game it will take multiple huge changes to fix it but it’s too late for that unfortunately.
@@St4rkiller04 The benefit of there being overpowered stuff and decent scaled stuff is you can choose to not use the over powered stuff and use the decent stuff, in comparison to everything is over scaled difficulty wise so now you have extreme difficulty using stuff out of the norm or meta. I enjoy making items that people say cannot be used and make them look good or do stupid builds that shouldn't make sense work. I can do that without bugs or glitches in BL3, in BL2 the current build making scene is based upon glitches and stuff to make things viable. I don't find that as fun.
Not saying this is the best, I just prefer this system.
Check out the Redux mod for bl3, fixes a lot of the issues you have with the game - like removing mayhem modifiers and annoints, story skip for new characters, rebalanced legendaries and new item rarities. Just finishing my first playtrough with this mod and i probably never had more fun in this game before
I have tried it around it’s launch but not since. Might have to try it again sometime.
Ive only played BL3 and It was overall pretty awesome but it had several issues that really annoyed me so i definitely wouldn't want to play an BL game that's LESS advanced or worse in anyway than that
Im only talking about gameplay an mechanics i couldn't care less about the story
I completely understand, BUT I would still recommend playing bl2. Although the gameplay is less advance compared to bl3, it is still pretty up to par and has some crazy builds and endgame content with their raid bosses. I would also recommend the pre sequel because I think those are some of the best designed vault hunters in the franchise. The story and lack of endgame content may be an issue though. BL3s gameplay is pretty well done though, but the things with loot, and play through replay ability just hinder the gameplay aspect so much for me
@@St4rkiller04 i see so i should play the "handsome collection"?
If i liked 3 ill definitely like those games?
@@GORILLA_PIMP I mean, I would say so personally. People have different experiences though. Hope you have fun with the handsome collection if you do play it 😁
It's easy: It's not.
I mean people can have there own opinions. I think BL3 is just worse than 2
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? having more skill point doesnt add more build diversity your still gonna take all the gun damage you can and damage nodes in fact it adds less diversity since you can take every thing that good without having to make a choice you can just choose everything
When did I mention more skill points? I mentioned action skills and a 4th skill tree. Nothing about how more levels is a good thing?
Really good video. Its hard for me to really articulate what made bl3 so unenjoyable to replay compared to bl2 but i think you did a pretty good job. Especially the last part, atleast its not wonderlands.
Please show me on the teddy bear where borderlands 3 touched you cause y’all are being over dramatic over this
@@nathanhendrickson790 yea i dont really care bro
The story of BL3 sucked, the mildly irritating twins weren't even fit to lick handsome Jacks boots
If they had been in BL2 they would have been minor overconfident bosses who would get their asses handed to them with ease, which is basically exactly what they are in BL3
They almost made them interesting near the end when we fought Troy. I thought Troy would betray her and become a threat. But of course not. That would make too much sense
I love all the BL games, but hate the venting machine crash bug on bl3 tho.
I hate that one too. 😂😂😂
Hopefully BL4 "Hoping there will be one" will have one: great intro with Music: Has BL3 GAmeplay, but BL2 function
especially if its from the heavy like Borderlands 2 and the pre sequel
@St4rkiller04 it has to be, i got into borderlands late, did not realize how awesome this game is. I played BL3 first, my first run through it , honestly was very fun. But then wasn't till i decided to play BL2/ n pre sequel did i feel true BL. Never played the first one, sry i tried but that 360 graphics lol couldn't do it ,im spoiled by next gen detail
@@Johnydogood first one is fun but not like the others. They need to make a borderlands 2 remaster
@@St4rkiller04BL2 remastered would add even MORE hours to my already STAGGERING playtime of 3800+ hours.
@granttodd3118 I am scared though of the story of bl4 because of Bl3 and new tales.
Ive played both BL2 and BL3 to death and I gotta say, I enjoy BL3 more than BL2
and that is a great opinion to have, I just have my own issues with the game that make me turn away from it
@@St4rkiller04 fair, my main problem with BL2 is the endgame. The UVHM health scaling and the health regen is what turns me away from BL2, also I don’t like how slag is required. I would be fine with the endgame if the scaling for UVHM was better
@@kyledea187mdkjr5 That's understandable. I dont think having slag as a requirement is a bad thing at all. but it is kind of annoying how limiting the options are. I'm going to make a video about how slag guns can be improved
the tink of cunning grows in size and launches nukes at you, the hog of fervor launches you up in the air with an aoe attack, the true trials skag becomes immune to one of any element per phase, hell in one of the trials there’s a huge T. rex with rocket launchers strapped to its head, Joey ultraviolet has three phases where you kill mobs, fight him with two underbosses, and finally where he throws away his shield exchanges it for a mini gun, occasionally grows in size becoming resistant to all damage and meanwhile you have to juggle him and psychos that pop up while keeping an eye on the traps that pop up, and captain haunt spawns three orbs that make him immune that you have to destroy before you do any damage. I’m sorry if these guys aren’t unique I guess terramorphis isn’t a raid boss after all either cause in the end all he is is a big thresher with unique mechanics. These guys meet all the qualifications of a raid boss and you’re either too nostalgic to see it or you just hate bl3 so much you’re willing to say anything to make it look bad.
The difference is that the regular version and the “true trials” version are only differentiated by health and damage. They do not classify as unique bosses due to this. It’s the same as giving warrior a “true trials” update. He is the same boss just with more health. That’s why I’m the video I made the distinction that the invincible sentinel wasn’t a raid boss because it is the same as the story kill but it has more health and does more damage. Joey ultra violent is literally a worse version of killivolt so it is not considered a “unique enemy” and the hollowed truant is just truant with boosted up heath and totums. Doesn’t change the strategy. I know this might not make complete sense with how I defined raid bosses, but I am coming out with a video soon explaining why each bosses is a raid boss or not. Spoilers: bosses liked verminous and son of craw aren’t really considered raid bosses by the definition I go by. It’s not a BL3 hate thing, it’s how I define raid bosses.
Yes how YOU define raid bosses. And yet here you are trying to pass it off as fact. I don’t care how much you cry about it there are 17 raids in the game if that’s how the health and damaged is valued that’s how it’s treated either deal with it or keep coping
@@nathanhendrickson790 when Im taking about how a raid boss is defined I’m using the wiki bro 😭😭😭. Im not just making shit up
@@St4rkiller04 dude this very same wiki that you’re reading can be used to tear apart your argument just as easily as you can make it
Borderlands 4
@@BkBk-gy6vr Borderlands 4
You know what if bl3 is too easy and bl2 is too hard I want borderlands 4 to be a souls like. There’s no difficulty slider at all no op levels no mayhem levels just one set difficulty. If it’s too hard well your sol either overcome the challenge or quit. That what you want?
I mean I love dark souls, so I don’t mind 😂😂😂. For real though, BL2 has a really hard max difficulty, but if you play within the op levels you can find the difficulty level you like. For BL3 it’s only easy, easy, and easy. There isn’t really much of a challenge for majority of players and it becomes stale. I would like a harder difficulty ,but at the same time have options so the casual borderlands fan can hope in whenever and play the game.
@@St4rkiller04 yes it’s easy. How is that a problem? Hell if you think it’s to easy go get some gear that’s anointed for everyone but your class that way the annlintments don’t affect you. Cause that what the annointments are for they are buffs. Like flame grant me strength or golden vow.
@@nathanhendrickson790 I don’t know what you are trying to argue here. The game should have the ability to easy, but it should have the ability to be hard. It can’t be only hard or only easy
@@St4rkiller04 well that’s a lie considering dark souls Elden ring and sekiro have been doing it for years. They all had one difficulty setting so why not borderlands why can’t it only be hard?
@@nathanhendrickson790 because borderlands is a game meant to be played in any style. If you want to relax and play with friends you can. If you want to farm for some rare gear you can, if you want to face all the hardest challenges you can. For soulsbourne games, it’s entire purpose is to give you hard bosses. That is not borderlands goal as a franchise
An often understated aspect of gameplay is also the unforseen consequences of new additions. For example, I like having a slide. But this then adds a new balancing aspect to the game. There aren't that many sprint enhancing abilities, but one Snowdrift is so ridiculously fast, it's faster to slide to your next objective than sprint. This unintentionally makes maps feel smaller and less memorable. Combined with new skill tech and weapon modifiers, the entire game is simply too short. Not necessarily fast, but short. It's the same problem Halo has. If you add sprinting, the entire map and game dynamic need to shift to fit around it, or else you run the risk of maps feeling too large or too small.
There is some truth to this but this I don’t think the map balance changes just because of one or two items. People would complain the maps are too big if they made them significantly bigger. The snow drift is a fantastic relic but the only character I really see use it as a meta part of their build is Zane. So I don’t see it as much of a problem but I can understand what you are saying
@@St4rkiller04 Fair enough. Perhaps the Snowdrift example was too far fetched, but you can still claim that the gameplay evolutions are not based on a new, core gameplay loop. BL3 feels derivative rather than innovative. BL2 works because it's BL2, but BL3 still feels like it's trying to mimic BL2 just with a few shiny bells and whistles.
And going by your raid boss logic then I guess eista really is a raid boss. Sure he sucks but he’s an invincible so..
He doesn’t constitute as raid boss. Having the Invincible moniker doesn’t make them a raid boss. I said the same thing in the video with the invincible sentinel. I don’t consider him a raid-bosses as he is just the same normal boss but they gave him more health. It’s like giving warrior more health and calling him a raid boss.
@@St4rkiller04 they are a raid boss in more than just health. They’re damage values were increased to that of a raid boss as well. Low level raid bosses sure but as long as they are programmed to be low level raids that’s how I’m looking at them that’s why k6 counts them because that’s what the developers intended and it’s right there in the hot fix notes for anyone to read and unless you are made the next dev and change this what you say does not go
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tereamorpheous has unique attacks as he encompasses all the different threshers into one and actually has boss phases
Pyro Pete has unique attacks with his gas flame that does tic damage and needs you to wash it off or hid before you get hit with it.
Voracidous has damage over time effects that constantly hit you in the fight, he has novas, he has the chief which can give him a shield and also spawns midgets when he dies
Master gee you have to kill toxic worms and make him walk into it because he doesn’t take damage unless he walks into a puddle. If you kill to make worms without him absorbing the puddle you die (not the best game design but it is something unique)
hyperius has his bots, has his novas, he has his superman jumps.
Vermi and Dexi are big versions of regular enemies I will agree with that, but the other 8 raidbosses in the game have their own uniqueness that diverts from the basic enemy. By either crating new aspects to the fight or adding every single variant of the enemy type into one. Borderlands 3 has 1 traditional raid bosses. 5 in total if you count all the bosses in the takedowns which I do. But the “raid bosses” added to the trials are just artificial.
Giving loader 9 billion health with no hard attack patterns doesn't make them a raid boss. If they gave H3RL-E 1 billion health is he a raid boss now? No
@@St4rkiller04 you are missing the point as long as the developers intent programmed the trial bosses to be raid bosses if put on true trials mode that is what they are.
@@St4rkiller04 same can be applied to herle if the developers intend on going back into bl2 and making herle a raid boss by increasing his health and damage to raid boss values he’s gonna be a raid boss
very few sequels are better than the originals
Batman’s Arkham city is another example
my first Assassin's Creed game was Valhalla and I loved it...played Origins and Odyssey next and still think Valhalla is better because I like the story mode and progression...point being play a series backwards and you may have a different opinion.@@St4rkiller04
@@cashrjr23 I understand that notion of playing one game first then playing the game previous but sometimes it doesnt really change the consensus most people have. I played Dishonored 2 first as an example and I really enjoyed the game. Then later on I got Dishonored 1 and I enjoyed that game significantly more that Dishonored 2.
@@St4rkiller04 I still thing Fallout New Vegas is the best Fallout game...but to each his own
@@cashrjr23 Isnt that actually the best fallout though?
Every thing about combat in Borderlands 2 is just shit. Garbage guns, recoil, accuracy. That’s why Borderlands 3 seems easier.
No.... thats just not true. Its easier because a majority of skills for each vault hunter get crazy mayhem scaling which allows for crazy amount of damage. Not only that but many of the weapons are overbuff to compensate for mayhem 10. Which makes the early game and time before mayhem 10 really easy. If anything, its poor game design in BL3 rather than BL2
@@St4rkiller04 Yes it's true.
I prefer Borderlands 1 over 2.
Based opinion 😎
I loved B2 but I prefer B3.
That’s fair. People have their own wants and needs
Ok ok but what about tiny Tina’s
The dlc, one of the best in the franchise. Wonderlands, really mid game.
Wonderlands was Ight but became kind ass compared to the others. Borderlands was a masterpiece for the time and borderlands 2 was what you would except for a second game would be like it’s borderlands but on crack then borderlands 3 is like a half assed up version of bl2 and wonderlands is just more of a joke.
Borderlands 3 is just too easy. You get a Zane or moze with a plasma caster from arms race and re volter the second you hit 72 and you can dog walk everything in the entire game
Even Fl4k and Amara do crazy damage as well.
Please show me on the teddy bear where bl3 touched you since you wanna be dramatic
It is not
Yes it is 🥸
@RUclips_is_trash_square_up ok 😄👍
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@@St4rkiller04 No it's not.
@@tf3israel584 wait a second, you are the guy that blocked me because I literally own you on Twitter bruh 😂😂😂. Get out of here man lol
bl3 is better, bl2 is good but is outdated
I disagree, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions
Still not as good as Hollow Knight
OP8 🟰 Sweet spot
In my opinion, I like op10 as a difficulty but it can be too challenging at times. Especially voracidous.