Critics Should Be Curators
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this is essential digibro material
I mean, what you're describing is basically an anime version of a book club. Honestly I think that could be cool. We take people, and have someone share a new movie, series, creator, etc. every month or so, then we discuss. Why not make a discord for that or something? I'd be down.
I'm in a movie version of that, we do anime occasionally
Indeed, would be nice
I would be dawn for a anime book club discord
Petronio39 everything is a book club and that’s the main thing we like about these RUclips channels and anime
@@kaizokujimbei143 I've never watched any star trek. That could be fun.
I watch anime RUclipsrs to learn what shows are out, to hear them trash bad anime, and occasionally to hear someone gush about a thing I already like.
Unfortunately most people only want to listen to people gush about things they already like
Kaizoku Jimbei The first two are laziness. The last one is validation seeking.
Parcel Form an anime club basically
Kaizoku Jimbei Because I grew up as the worthless child in the families.
You seek validation Because its rfeels as if you talk to a friend/family who just saw the same movies than you.you had the same expérience yet you want to express it because it feels good and make you relive the expérience
Morally, I agree with you, given how art is a machine these days. But you shouldn't wonder why people with jobs they tend to hate come home and want to relax with their limited free time would be overly cautious about what media they consume. You don't live that life anymore, you've ascended to making it your job to explore, most people can't even fathom that. They'd rather just watch a personality regurgitate their voice at them while they play games so they can stay part of the community zeitgeist without actually dipping their feet too far in. It's too unfamiliar to do anything else, and I gotta be up for work in the morning.
Consuming media is not the most important thing in life. When you come home from work and have your dinner you might want something quick and tasty you know you'll like, not an ultra complex dish that might be some of the finest food you ever eat. When you book your one holiday a year you're more likely to choose the best reviewed or most famous places or destinations you're familiar with, not explore an obscure village in Mongolia that might lead to spiritual revelation.
And that's the saddest part about the modern world. So much interesting stuff in this world to see, but i got 4 hours of sleep left and I can't afford to lose the job. Life is so short and living it as a machine isnt worth it
Bit of a digression but that’s essentially why globalization is a misdirect if not an outright lie.
some people listen to sexy music when watching porn
I just get high, mute the porn and listen to digi rant on a different tab
Funny, because I just put this on IMMEDIATELY after ejaculating
@@Cons-Cat I feel personally attacked
this is why I love MatthewMatosis
Yeah
Yesss
he is the absolute best.
God yes
Not sure what you mean. He rarely talk about games that aren't in the conciousness of /v/. (Or at least the /v/ from the last time i visited, which is quite a few years ago)
This is exactly why I look for reviewers like ThorHighHeels, Matthewmatosis, and you. I love finding new stuff I wouldn't have known otherwise and have a way to talk about it. I think a group watch or club would be awesome.
ThorHighHeels is fucking amazing. The dude has legit respect for gaming
Thor is based
Ebert was forward thinking on anime too he rated metropolis (2001) up there with the original, as well as pushing many Ghibli films to the mainstream (from 1988 onward)
That's what made him truly appreciated.
@@mechajay3358 not a fan of video games though ahahahah which i found quite funny in retrospect since anime and videogames are so intertwined now
@@Stevem Ikr.
@@mechajay3358 there's a funny story behind it, Ebert could have become one of the early defenders of video games IF he'd pick up a legend of zelda or dragon warrior copy however the only game he'd ever bought was TMNT on the NES which was so bad he never wanted to play another game again
@@mechajay3358 this is all hypothetical Ebert was a really picky guy and considering the structure of most games i dont know how far he'd get along with his schedule and tv show at the time, but who knows
Looks like I'm viewing your channel for the right reasons. Overall, I love your channel because you talk about anime/manga that you genuinely enjoy and it helps me find things that I would've never stumbled upon. Your channel has definitely kept me interested in anime over the years. I'm wondering if you did a best of manga list similar to your best of anime list. Thanks for the cool content
I finally found a group of anime enthusiasts where we make each other watch older cult classics and just have been murdering our backlog of shows we've been trying to watch for the last three decades. I haven't had this much fun watching anime and good discussions since I've been a kid. Thanks for continuing to give more shows to add to our lists, keep fighting the good fight Digi.
Any recommendations?
@@maartenboy37 what kind of show are you looking for?
maartenboy37 watch monster
@@AnchorShip I agree, Monster is an amazing ride. My standard for a longer mystery thriller.
It sounds like the difference here is that most people watch analysis for the utility: they want to know about what's being discussed. You have always liked analysis for it's own sake, since you make the content yourself, so the artistry and more esoteric elements of the medium itself is what you gravitate towards.
I vibe with this. Sometimes, the only thing I want to know about an anime is what the conversation around it even is.
You need dedicated Discord servers for Group Watches since public ones usually are on Reddit, which is designed to be a circlejerk community. Twitter doesn't really encourage good discussions either.
One of the most insightful videos about niche "content creation" I've ever seen and a very aspirational goal.
I really don't have the time and energy to check the 1st eps of every single show, so having some guidance as to what shows are interesting to watch is a godsend. Plus you, MB, and others direct me out to shows that aren't immediately accessable via netflix/crunchyroll, or classics that are worth checking out.
So I guess what I'm saying is thanks :D
19:00 this was TotalBiscuit (may he rest in peace) games critic, or 'consumer advocate' as he'd put it who had a very peculiar taste in games but 'reviewed' games the correct way (in my opinion) by treating them as products for a good portion of the review, liking walls for pixilated textures comparing the frame-rate on his rig to what you might get with a budget system assessing the controls for accessibility and usability. Then he'd move onto the strengths of the games storytelling. God I miss TB. I wish there was a modern gaming channel like his.
i hate to be the one to tell you this bro but TotalBiscuit is dead
@@anentiresleeveoforeos2087 I think he knows. that's why he said may he rest in peace.
that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that TotalBiscuit is dead and I was the one who killed him.
@@anentiresleeveoforeos2087 That's... really not a funny thing to joke about. He died of terminal cancer.
@@anentiresleeveoforeos2087 👀
This is part of what "Pink Floyd: The Wall" was inspired by: the idea that people weren't coming to Floyd concerts for the show, they were coming to be part of the crowd, to be where everyone else was, enjoying what everyone else did. It's a good community-forming instinct, but it also hampers individual thought if allowed to go too far.
I got into Log Horizon thanks to you, as well as a few seasonals
I dropped Log Horizon halfway thru the episode and Digi got me back into it
The more I looked at Digi’s moustache the more I noticed it moves in segments. Like, there are two pieces under his nose, and two separate pieces next to those and I’m really tired so it’s like mezmerizing. This doesn’t have anything to do with anything.
His moustache looks like spider legs
Hey Digi, haven't been a fan of yours for long, but I super dig this video. As a guy who just loves to explore the deepest depths for buried treasure, I love a good retrospect video that gives a little more substance to the discussion of old stuff beyond "X was good/bad." Your video on Apocalypse Zero (which I had seen before your video) was one such example. M's B has done a couple such videos too believe it or not. The one that sticks pit in my mind was about Highschool Of The Dead. Stuff that points me in the direction of a new old thing that I might really love or that helps me better understand something I'm already familiar with is super fascinating to me. So from one curator to another, keep up the good work.
One of the best videos you made in my opinion, couldn't agree more.
I don't care about watching whats trending and famous at the moment at all. First because I almost never discuss it with somebody anyways, and even when I do it's some small discussion that don't pay off the time spent by itself. Second because I don't like it as much as the things I trully care about and most people don't know of, like you said.
I think the best influence you had on me was exactly making me go find things that resonate with me no matter of what time it is, and I'm very luck that I can resonate with you taste a lot on anime for that matter.
K-ON! is my favorite anime today and I'm truly grateful you showed me what's so good about it.
Honestly, your channel was part of what got me interested in anime and I found many of the animes I liked because of your channel.
I think anitubers nearly always talking about what's hot is a clear sign they just want fame and money. It's not bad to do it sometimes but as a critic, you should look outside of the mainstream for quality works and it's actually more important to share those because they're the ones that need more recognition. Guys like MB and Gigguk have a whole lot of influence over the anime community and would be able to share many obscure titles if they wanted to but they pretty much just shill whatever's hot or what their sponsors want them to. It's pretty clear from how they hardly cared about Demon Slayer before but the moment it started trending on Twitter, they suddenly started making all these videos on it.
Interesting idea in sharing obscure titles through videos with broad topics like "top X shows you never heard of" however, it's a difficult road particularly for new anitubers since such broad topics are commonly done and it's hard for your own video to stand out from them. I guess I can still consider them for sometime later though. What I'm personally aiming for right now is to find all these obscure manga I'm interested in talking about and make videos for each of them. Sure, I won't get many views right away but what I'm hoping if for some fans who already know about a certain obscure title to look it up on youtube to see if anyone's talking about it and find my video, surprised to see a channel that does. That may get them interested and think "If this guy knows about this series, I wonder other obscure series he may know about" and check out more content.
It's kind of a way to share interests between like minds. It's something I personally do sometimes on youtube, looking up obscure manga, so if there are more people like me out there, that would be nice. I would like to see more anitubers who make videos like this, I guess I know some and learning about them though. A certain anituber in the past did have this effect on me although his channel is gone for some reason now. Hopefully, this is a good way but having some mainstream stuff worth talking about now and again helps too.
This is an incredible video! You were able to put words to my thoughts about why I'm watching what everyone else is watching, I didn't have a concrete understanding why before. I'm not a huge fan of Dragonball or Naruto, but I watched literally everything there is about them (filler and movies) just so that I can understand random references I could come across, and to be able to share my opinion given the vast catalog of knowledge I've sucked up like a sponge. I keep watching random fan reviews or something just so that I can have an edge for conversation, and I do this for every show I've "finished" in such a manner. Hundreds of subreddits and discord channels and it's just daunting, but I still do it because I want to be a part of a group and not an outsider. Human psychology is hard to have personal control over, I guess.
Ive never felt this called out in my entire life honestly, but thank you for opening my eyes as to why I dont check out older stuff
Completely agree with your points here. I was excited to see shows I've never watched on your top 50 of the decade, and now I'm on the second season of K-On and a few episodes into Space Dandy as well.
I definitely agree that I want reviewers to bring up shows that I don't know about. Finding out there is a show that has something I want is pretty fantastic.
However, I also very much enjoy watching reviews for content I have already experienced and enjoyed. Hearing a more in depth analysis of something I love, hearing why someone else loves it, and hearing the amazing ways something is great that I didn't realize when I watched it is one of the reasons I like your vids.
I had already watched Eva, Bebop, and K-on and I figure that these are pretty mainstream shows that everybody says are great. You still made vids on them, and I loved those vids.
... I kinda lost track of my own point. Juat keep doing what you do.
27:00 One way I could think of to make that more clickable to the masses may be drawing a connection to a modern thing that was influenced by it in the title and thumbnail.
He's actually done this in a number of videos and he talked about it somewhere in regards to how he titled/thumbnailed his shinbo videos or... ??? It's foggy but I clearly remember him talking about how you can MAKE people interested in a topic with a good thumbnail, title, and opening line - hook, line, and sinker.
@@jadesprite his whole take on it us "hurrr let's make pointless misleading clickbait because this is the only way to make people interested". Like how he makes video with overanalyzing Pokemon episode and titles it "Pokemon is dark AF" even though video has nothing to do with it. Why? Because obviously no one knows pokemon anime and channel subscribers don't care about Digi overanalyzing thing they watched a long time ago.
Rewatch the part around 14:23. "Review of X" and stupid vague clickbait are the only two ways of making a title that Digi can think of. Describing what this video/anime is about is not even an option for him.
I remember when you made your "request stuff to each other" reddit thread a while back. One of the requests was one of the most interesting games I've played, not that good, but VERY interesting nevertheless! (It was Mibili's Quest)
There was a time I went to a random anime club at a college which I don't go to once. I ended up talking to a stranger there and we started to exchange video game taste. He quickly noticed that my taste was very unique while his was more broad, he took interest in this and wanted to pinpoint what drew me to games. After a bit of back and forward he introduced a game that I not only already heard of, but was one of my favorites (I Wanna Be The Guy). After telling me he told me about another game (Distorted Travesty) and the concept intrigued me, I asked lots and lots of questions and he was passionate on telling me what parts of the game grabbed his attention and hoped I would feel the same. As a result of this long exchanged I remembered the name of the game and gave the game a whirl. It took a while for it to grow on me but I can safely say its one of the most unique games I've played while simutanueously playing to my tastes very strongly.
What I should elaborate is that this isn't the same as hearing about a game online, playing it, and then thinking "oh that was neat". This game felt special, not because it was some hidden 10/10 masterpiece, far from it, but because it was personally reccomended to me. That alone gave it more personality and weight, it felt more like what I was doing mattered, like I was a 14 year old again going on an adventure playing games outside my confort zone for the first time! I was exited to tell this new friend how much I liked the game he told me about, especially cause due to my very specific tastes, this feeling is VERY rare for me!
Unfortunately I never saw him again. The ride who took me too the club didn't feel like going back and I never got the guys contact cause I thought doing it after just meeting him would be too weird considering it was a weekly group. Nevertheless the experience taught me something important (tho a similar thing happened with I Wanna Be The Guy as well.)
People want to connect with each other, they want to feel like something bigger than themselves. For me that's christianity, but I know not everyone believes that. There's just something much more vivid about going out of your way to discuss art/anything with other people vs doing it online where there's very little risk going on at all...
Yeah, I'm guilty of not watching stuff I know I'll love and that frustrates me. I almost feel like I'm overwhelmed by stuff I know I will love because watching it will give me more stuff to think about/do projects about when I haven't finished processing the last great thing I watched.
Dude I felt that.
That's what forums are for Digibro. RUclips isn't a very good place to discover new films and anime. Maquia: When the Promised Flower Blooms was my favourite film of last year yet no one talked about it.
Dude same, I should rewatch that.
There were videos about it, what do you mean?
I like AustinMcConnell because he just gabs off about stuff that he's interested in rather than what is /relevant/ at the time and he does so with great perspective and humor. I think it's great for his audience as well since it's usually people gathering around these obscure topics in the darkness speaking weird words to one another that they wouldn't be speaking otherwise. I like it, it's fun and comfy and I think more 'reviewers' should do it.
I like Austin's channel too but he could do better in some respects to do more research into some of the topics he chooses to cover. For instance his videos about card games and printer ink are full of misinformation and their comment sections reflect that as well as other creators criticizing him.
Also, and this is purely anecdotal, but I'm fairly certain his entire video on how to survive falling out of a plane was copied straight from a reddit post I saw a year or two prior. I dont hold that against him since I cant produce the proof but still something I consider.
Group watches are a great thing. I've only done it once but I'm eternally thankful for it since I got to watch Ideon.
What's this Ideon?
@@maartenboy37 Space Runaway Ideon. 1980 mecha anime directed by Yoshiyuki Tomino. Many call it the inspiration for Evangelion's ending.
Been doing the same when I started college. Group watches of a lot of animated films and shows. Recently getting ready to watch Crest of the Stars with some mates.
watch maison ikkoku, space brothers, concrete revolutio, patlabor tv series, shouwa genroku rakugo shinju, kaiba, hikaru no go, princess tutu, katanagatari, world trigger, juuni kokuki, seirei no moribito and tetsuwan birdy decode.
edit: im down for that "classics groupwatch".... I know most anime's existence though, so hopefully it's stuff I'm interested in lol
I go to great lengths to find smaller channels, anime, obscure games and programs and music and archive it all, would love to be able to have a group where each member gets like 1 post per day, to share the highest quality gem of content (song, video, page) they've found that day for a given interest.
I only watch reviews for things I already like in order to help figure out how I feel about them and take words I can use to help describe the show to others.
Yeah you are correct, I do watch more new stuff compared to old because of community aspect. Even if I hate or mildly enjoy it, it's fun to know there is big chance that my irl friends at least know that this show exists, or that they watched it also.
I watch analysis videos mostly to find new stuff, I've been clued into hundreds of anime and hundreds of video games from following you and other content creators. I have a recurring thought that I should stop watching so much RUclips and just get to crackin' on these "to-watch" and "to-play" lists, considering I have a ton of games to play already and a nigh infinite amount of anime thanks to streaming sites, but I guess I'm just invested in the narrative of you and other content creators at this point.
I'm always aware that actually going out and experiencing those pieces of art will be far more gratifying than watching "filler content" over here but I guess I'm just scared out of progressing the lists since it's such a daunting task. I do find it hilarious though, the idea there are people out there who can't fathom watching a show because there's no current hype around it or that they NEED something to do with that experience after. Spoiler: When you get into a new game series or whatever you can go track down the fanbase subreddit or whatever (if you don't like reddit) and gel with the people there. Every time you get into a new franchise that you enjoy sufficiently you can go find swathes of new people to discuss it with and compare thoughts on! It's incredible.
I think this mainstream need for a community around an activity is the subconscious push against the modern era, the classic "We're more connected than ever but we're actually less connected?!?!" meme. I wish my friends would take some time away from multiplayer games to check out all these bangin' single player games I keep getting into, it's really a blast.
I watch reviewers for entertainment. I find a well-explained well-thought-out argument or opinion very entertaining, regardless of the topic.
However, I have a couple times looked through your videos to figure out what anime to watch next, because your videos are good at explaining the appeals of a show, which helps me find shows that have what I’m looking for in anime.
Digi, great video!!! Would you ever think of doing something like "Digi's Monthly Old Anime Club" where you pick something for people to watch and then host a livestream discussion for it or something? Loved all your thoughts on community building.
I actually go out of my way to watch stuff that I know won't be popular, or maybe even a lot of people will hate it if they know about it, but that I can find some value in. It's fun to watch shows that everyone is watching for the sake of conversation but I feel like I can only enjoy something if it's something that makes me a hipster for enjoying it. Two great examples from last year are Fairy Gone, a show from a completely new team that got a lot right and wrong with it; and Granbelm, a magical girl show whose mecha designs turned many people off but tells a fascinating dark magical girl story on par with Madoka Magicka. Idk if I just like feeling special or if I'm just naturally drawn towards things that break from the norm.
I'm drawn to a specific underground style of art and thought. Jesse Moynihan's Forming is one of few. I want to say FilmCow but his viewership is amazing.
@@theshamanite Oh, if we're talking RUclips and online animation, David Firth is my go-to for surrealist dark cartoons. He's most famous for Salad Fingers but that's the tip of his iceberg and I love everything he's put out. Cool 3D World is another great surrealist animation channel
@@sladikk I've seen all of Salad Fingers and follow David Firth's Instagram. Kirsten Lepore makes good stop motion, and Moynihan also has Manly on Frederator's channel.
The primary reason I subscribe to Digibro is because he'll show me things I hadn't heard of, and introduce me to things I would not have otherwise found.
What you describe here is the reason I follow a lot of people, but especially it's the reason I follow the creators. I watched The Lighthouse this year because I was waiting for the director to make something new, and it was great, regardless of marketing.
Also, I watched Made In Abyss entirely because of the first Digibro/BestGuyEver video on it really convincing me.
I can definitely agree with plumbing the depths for good shows. I like to take dips back through different eras of anime to rekindle the facets I love about the medium. Right now I'm riding an early 2000's wave of shows.
You're the main reason that I checked out K-On, and it's been my second favorite anime of all time ever since
I get the part about not getting to watch older shows, even tho you were interested. I was like that for gunbuster/diebuster. But what really got me to look at it is that a reactor I follow decided to react to them. It helps that they did the actual full episode Picture in Picture, so all I had to do is download a file from mega, aka low effort on my part (no need to find the episodes, sync and all that stuff).
AND I had the community of that reactor talk about those shows, so I got the discourse thing you talked about, and a sense of accomplishment.
I NEVER watch Anime. Including Pokemon seasons and movies I've watched maybe 30 Anime ever.
But one of my favorites was Darker Than Black. Not just for quality but because of HOW I ended up watching it: Digi's almost 7 HOURS of anime recommendations. Naming anime, what genre they are, what they cover, and more. There's SOME anime for you in that huge fucking list. I decided to pick a few anime from that list that I knew would appeal to me and watched them. Darker Than Black was one I loved.
Go check it out, especially because Digi has a ragged beard in this video and it's incredible ruclips.net/video/yYJ618HckG0/видео.html
This is the kind of curation I want more of, not just boring reviews I can find a thousand of here on RUclips.
Just howling in the shadows...
This is one of those feel good inspiring videos to not ride the hypetrain, and raise up grassroots support.
I was feeling bad for a while cause I didn't know what the shows are like this Winter season yet, but I'm glad I'm watching Irresponsible Captain Tylor instead because there was someone I thought is cool who was talking about it so much, I couldn't resist checking it out.
I totally agree with you. Most of the people don't watch old stuff like 80s anime because they are not presented to them like the new shows. Big anitubers have a very large dedicated fanbase so they they totally could sell thier viewers to watch the show Yet they wouldn't do that cuz that video would probably have way less views than the trending animes.
Kor videos on every anime airing in 1989 helped me appreciate to go back and watch old anime
Why am i subscribed, i dont know any references here and live in a copletely different internet bubble
@@kaizokujimbei143 bazinga
I think part of the problem, at least now, is the sheer profligation of algorithmic/SEO thinking. We've gotten so accustomed to marketing and big companies having control of the conversation, that now we subconsciously use those cues as our OWN cues for how we determine what to value, what to look into, and what we should like. Think about how long the conversation about current movies has been dominated by the MCU; we're looking at over a decade of consistently well-performing, easily advertised films that come out every few months without stopping. This is not to mention that almost every big movie that comes out now is produced and wholly owned by one or two large companies, chiefly Disney. Go ahead, try to name an especially well-selling and well-reviewed film in the last few years that wasn't made by DC, Warner Bros., or Fox, it's not very easy. On social media especially, we can't really get away from this kind of thinking, because the sites we use craft themselves in a way that makes it HARDER for us to break away. Look at the search function on RUclips for instance, you'll automatically be served results for more current and more optimized content the instant you start typing, meaning if you want to find older/more niche content, you have to put in more individual effort just to find it. Meanwhile, you bet your ass that you'll see Marvel content the instant you type the first letter of the name of any superhero with a movie out in the past or coming six months.
This is also why I think it's at least partially a fool's errand to try to break away from this on your own, with your own effort, without changing the culture around us and the platforms we use to participate in said culture. You talk about creating your own spaces, making your own conversations by making the content that drives said conversations. I won't dispute your point that this does sometimes happen, and Kemono Friends is a legitimately good example in your favor. However, since you're so aware of how the algorithm drives things here and how trending topics drive the conversation on other platforms like Twitter, you should also be aware that at least for someone of your reach, trying to make the conversation happen through force of will is akin to flailing the dark as a means of looking for someone. It may work by chance, but you're far better off lighting a match, which in this case means drastically changing the rules of the platforms we use and the laws which govern them.
On a lighter note, it seems Victor subs to Geoff for reasons similar to why I sub to Gigguk. I rarely agree with, or even highly care about, his opinions about shows or anime in general. However, I like viewing his content because he gives a very on-the-nose impression of how the average (I suppose "normie" although I hate that term) anime fan is seeing things at a given moment. I value getting a sense of that, and he's an easy conduit to find it.
Something about this entire video rang true for me, like a crystal bell went off in my brain and reverberated throughout my body. I see the dots connecting.
17:59 Easy solution: F*ck culture. Don't watch/read/consume media solely so you can "connect" with others over it. DO IT FOR YOURSELF.
I think what would help would be more genre-based communities. A message board or a RUclips channel devoted to, say, mecha anime would naturally tend to talk about older shows when there isn't a big mecha series that's currently airing and people in that community would likely either have seen them or be willing to check them out.
Yup, took the words right out of my mouth. I wish content creators and critics would actually put in some effort and tell us about stuff we dont know about, instead of just regurgitating the same stuff that everyone else is talking about. Keep up the great work Digi!
Okay maybe we as a community need to start making trends, like an Anime Club we pick one classic anime a month or whatever and go off watch it discuss it and as a community make videos about it
So basically you want what happened to Melee via The Smash Bros Documentary to happen with more anime/media? A grassroots community eventually getting more spotlight after so many years of dedication? Sounds pretty dope!
Most people watch things to be a part of a group and not to self serve themselves. I am horribly selfish I consume things because i want to and rarely tell anyone what i consume unless they ask. Rarely happens.
I think just watching things because everyone else is doing it is just not healthy for taste or mental health.
I used to follow the late totalbiscuit, because i noticed his and my gaming opinions where olmost 1:1, so essentially if he liked something i will too.
But after his death i cant find any critic that i can agree 100% with, the ones i found at most i agree 80% of the time. So i started more to watch 1h+ reviews just to see opinions on games i already played and compare them, the reasonings.
Guess since everyone is dropping channels that fit the bill here, I'll give a shoutout to Beyond Ghibli. He often covers things that may have flown under the mainstream radar but are nonetheless interesting, and does a phenomenal job at it. Currently watching Haibane Renmei, an anime that never caught my attention beforehand, due to his wonderful video on it. Unfortunately, his reach isn't great as of yet, but he's definitly one of my favorite youtubers.
I try to be a curator myself, but it's really hard to do that because even if I have them in my room saying "you need to watch this right now" and put it on for them, they're going to think "why am I taking time out of my day to come over to hang out with my friend only to sit down and watch a movie or something that I could (but won't) watch at home?" There's a huge hurtle of engagement to get over with most people. It seems like the only way you can actually curate to most people is to make a video saying "look at this cool thing and hear me talk about how cool it is (with just enough info to perk your interest to dig deeper but not so much that you think you got everything worthwhile there is to get just from hearing me talk about it)".
And it's really difficult to talk about something in very thorough depth without spoilers and/or would only make sense to people who already saw it. But if you're going out of your way to avoid doing that, it seems inefficient to do all that just for 1 show/film if the objective is to give recommendations, you may as well compile a top 10 list or something. But you can't just make a top 10 list or something out of any random collection of stuff you happen to like and think is more deserving of attention, you need some kind of theme to connect them together, like talking about a specific genre/trope or the career of a particular creative staff.
I totally agree on a lot of this. I try to convince people to watch stuff and they tell me sure, then they take a month to get around to a 2 hour long movie. Like dude, you can do it in a day just dont watch whatever youtube video is 6 hours long that you watch every week.
Critics have a part in catering content, but what are the criterias for a critic? Is it based on passion, experience, or knowledge? Any one of those things can land you with the title. The interest for a product doesnt just appear its word of mouth; not just because of marketing push or content creators chasing trends. Those things widen appeal but aren't the cause of interest in a product. For star wars and marvel It's the years of films, shows, games, books, the people behind it all. Iron man came out and it wssnt a world changing event it was just a really good superhero movie. When star wars first came out there was no huge multimedia marketing push. It was just a genre of film people didn't know they would be interested in. Scifi fantasy films back then were never a great bet especially on the fantasy side. Fantasy motion pictures were the films tanking studios because there wasnt an interest and because they weren't great. The lord of the rings changed that, and then it became a big event. After showing the interest was there for fantasy movies like this.
Things dont trend in a vacuum theres no predetermined trending topics that burst into existence and land on the trending tab out of the basis of being big. Interest comes first, you're not interested that's totally fine. The best part of this digital media age is that niche entertainment and products dont need to be on the trending page or have a multimedia presence to have consumer interest and be successful. And very often, to the detriment of your argument, you say quite frequently these niche products become huge through word of mouth and sheer quality. That's how almost any media product starts. Trying to drum up media interest purely on advertising and chasing trends doesnt translate well. It's fake and people react very poorly to those attempts. And putting everything you're not interested in in some absent of spacetime then youre point wouldve been ok. But saying "big" things have appeal only because theyre "big" is just goin in circles. Things become popular because people are interested and see the appeal and tell other people and then those people go online and discuss it. You seem to be criticizing specific ways people consume media as being wrong or right, and that's your problem. The zeitgeist starts somewhere theres a personal investment of time and money and going with other people that defines those experiences that grows exponentially. If marvel movies weren't huge would you watch them? If they were unpopular and bad would you be trying to dig them up? Everything you brought up about community and creators making interesting things is already happening and it's pretty successful with channels doing what you do with more views, better production, and more subscribers. You're just not looking.
Sometimes you just want to get a feel for the current flavor of the month without actually having to watch/read it. Which channels like Mother's Shillment are actually good for (though I do legitimately enjoy his PSA series).
And for many of us who are less media obsessed, watching a RUclips video is just lower friction than watching the actual series. I can't really read subs while working out, after all. (And I rarely watch new shows anyways. All the talk of Kimetsu no Yaiba did is get me to read the manga, which is MUCH less of a time investment than watching the series. You can even do it on the toilet!)
I just decided to start watching Hajime No Ippo again and completely finishit this time. Its great and it's a classic in my eyes so who's talking about it really, not that many people. I hear what you're saying Digi.
It's just a weird thing about humans. We value the social engagement that comes from participation in a collective event, so oddly enough, a huge marketing push to create a cultural event does give people an experience that they value.
@@kaizokujimbei143 yes, most people do both.
I was initially interested in No Guns Life, but then I saw MAL scores and decided not to watch it, then I saw Digi's impressions on the first episode and particularly his remark about the dialogues being good and I gave it shot and that was a great journey (although not without its rough edges). I used to trust MAL scores on drama shows (because people tend to relate to them better and if these shows don't work on them, then they should be really bad), but the last season showed a strange trend of good shows staying underground - No Guns Life, Babylon and Blade of the Immortal. Does it have something to do with the lead characters being adult? I used to hate adult protagonists back then lol, couldn't relate to them. Not enough youth fetishes.
God damn. It's hard to justify but I wanna say your venture to the classics DO pay off, but the scale is just really small compares to the effect you're expecting. I'm sure you've effectively changed a lot of people's taste including mine, and perhaps even planted some seeds in their consciousness that either side may have not noticed yet. Personally, I appreciate the enlightenments you've brought to my eyes more than the subject you discuss. Even if you're talking about a new show, I still apply what you brought to the table to shows I willingly spend my time to explore.
I'm close to the bunch you describe at 18:59 ~ 19:11, but man, the realization that the majorities are only treating media as 'pass-time entertainment' really stings and frustrating. I hope as more people are getting these revelations, the more they are willing to look deeper. After all, I'm still watching the olds. Art persist. I do acknowledge changing a few person's life is nowhere near as gravitating than changing the community landscape, but here's a raise of hand on what you've done are meaningful.
I watched K-On! because of you. I thought it wasn't my cup of tea until you started describing how good it actually is.
I think by giving a certain specific kind of context for (e.g.) an anime, you can actually affect how people experience the anime. By "priming" them for certain things, you basically teach them how to spot the good things in it. You teach them how to enjoy something.
I noticed this when I recommended music to people. If I preface it with a story about why I like it and what the lyrics mean to me, they're way more likelier to like it too.
This is why I think spoilers are demonised too much. If a spoiler ruins an anime, it's not well-written. If an anime is only good because of the sudden twist, it's not well-written. If something is well-written, you can enjoy how well the twist appears even if you see it coming. Or rather, ESPECIALLY when you see it coming. Cuz then you can see all the build-up that's missed when you don't know yet.
I hope you can do more of these types of reviews. Ones where you, like with K-On!, teach people how to like something, what's so good about it. You are a huge reason why I'm now so good at digesting and understanding art. Well, you and Jesse of course, but mainly you cuz you even taught me how to get into him. I had to push myself to watch the entire Horseshoe Saga and then I was hooked and I've seen that entire thing like 5 times now and I think I have a pretty good grasp of what he meant now (partially cuz, as an aspiring author, I relate to a lot of that).
Now that I'm rambling anyway, might I sneakily suggest giving A Certain Magical Index another go? While I prefer Railgun cuz imo the world-building is better and the characters are more enjoyable to see, Index has some fascinating themes to them. The way I see it, Touma is meant to be a misunderstood gifted kid who society can't accept. There are two sides of the world and he belongs to neither, he has to make his own faction (the Touma Faction, which actually is a real thing in the story). Even though he's convinced he's nothing special, his raw talent lets him do ridiculous things (like that fight with Accelerator, which then was the key event that changed Accelerator from a heartless evil villain to just a hurt kid who's been hurt by the world but who secretly does care about people, like the Sisters). His Touma-Punch quite literally erases delusions people have, except it's not the power that does that. It's him. He shows the villains the wrong in their thinking and then wins the fight against them to show just how flawed their way of thinking is. All the villains are well-written and have good believable motivations and he recognises this.
Just something I've been thinking about. Perhaps someday I'll start a youtube channel and turn this into a video. I just can't be assed getting into video editing.
Broke: Why X sucks /is the best
Brokish: I hate X
Woke: Do I like X? Yes, actually. Here are the reasons
super eye patch wolf's video on Redline is what came to mind 18:00
also everything that MatthewMatosis has made
Exactly there are plenty of creators doing exactly what he wants to happen and they've been doing it for years. He complains that no one is consuming critics content correctly, but that creators are just chasing trends and not talking about what interests. And yeah? Those are shitty channels and I'm not interested in them, supereyepatchwolf, gigguk, teamfourstar, funhaus, angry video game nerd, pewdiepie, redlettermedia....Theres tons of media channels with communities and who are putting their interests and finding great things new AND old without some weird vitriolic attitude towards popular things. They do that and attract a huge following because it's good content they like, not because its new.
When the only critique he has was they're "big" and "new". That isnt being a critic that's being a commentator. Describing things without going into the why is what a commentator or a radio host does. He uses his anecdotal evidence of his brother wanting him to cover more popular shows, and another youtube creator he knows outsourcing trend reports tp determine his next video. Like it's so obvious his brother just wants to hear his opinion and maybe help him get more exposure by talking about more anime instead of two specific subgenres of a niche genre for the past two years. And it's super obvious the channel just making content based on what's trending is a shitty uninspired channel.
As much as I like SBH' videos Redline is pretty well known and not really underground.
Many people probably prefer current media because it gives them something to talk about with friends, family, and coworkers. But since 95% of mainstream media doesn't suit my tastes, I have nothing to add to those conversations, so now I just watch whatever I find that appeals to me and accept that I can't discuss it in depth with anyone offline.
People like to talk to there friends about a show more than they like watching a show, this is why shows like love island are extremely popular
Is something inherently more interesting just because it’s novel? I just don’t see any reason that older media is necessarily a better watch just because it has different tropes to what we watch now.
I think it has to do with being bored/burn out in a way. You have seen so much already and there can only be one first, so novel things qre the way to get back that feeling(not unlike addictions but well)
Can we get a video on how you came up with that 2020 notebook? Id really apreciate it!
I heard about these new dotted notebooks which make it easier to draw graphs and stuff in your notebook, so I bought one and just did what I felt like with it.
@@Trixiethegoldenwitch thats dope digi, im stealong your format for my own notebook!! I wish I was a higher level patron ao i could get a rant on your though process with it.
This video has a pretty good thumbnail
Good job team
I tend to watch the review or analysis video after I already consume the product. I want to know what other people thought of it and to also know clearly what my own opinion was. It was a habit I got into in my school days and just never quit. I do it with everything. At the time I didn’t know anyone consuming the shows or books I was interested in so finding videos online was like getting a sneak peak of what other consumers of that product thought of it. I don’t mind what the opinion of the Internet personality is. I simply just want to know what they thought and just watch all the interesting videos about that product.
Me and my friend find and binge Netflix series together. I remember the snack mixing and I'm proud I was creative so. I gotta ask him about Bojack Horseman, it's been forever for me.
I havent seen the video but ive seen you for a couple years now and i know where your going with this and i 100% agree in every sense with you
Clicked immediately when I saw agetarou on the thumbnail
Reading or listening to a review is like putting your toe in the water before jumping in. It's not the same investment as watching an episode or jumping into the water headfirst.
Don't know about others but I watch reviews for movies/anime that I did not see to decide from all the possibility what to chose to watch and I watch reviews/anime about movies i have seen to gauge my taste with the reviewers so i can make better decisions in the first case. I don't have time to look at all the Anime/Movies/Series.
Classic’s are just defined by whatever had ridden the cultural zeitgeist before, people would rather be part of determining the new classics when they’re young and reflect on the old when they’re older.
I remember when I first got into anime and I watched anything that looked remotely good no matter when it came out but now I just watch what’s currently airing wanting to get out of the loop.
Maybe I'm just weird, but a lot of reviews I watch are for things I have no interest in. But I'll watch the reviews just to see the reaction of the person doing the review. I'll probably never watch anything you cover because the things you cover don't interest me much. But I'll still watch your videos on them, because I like seeing your reactions to them, and how you'll take them apart and analyze them.
It’s simple. The reason I watch gigguk and mothers basement is because it creates a sort of festive atmosphere around anime. Rather than some seedy underbelly where nothing really matters. It’s about making sure there’s this sense of worldliness to anime and the things we like. Similar to how some players get upset about cheating in Seikiro because now it doesn’t matter. Its a matter of meaning.
A random Facebook group watch of spirited away two summers ago is what got me into anime.
There's also the point that there's a shit ton of new shows coming out each season, so many people may never really feel the need to go back and look for older shows that they might enjoy. This applies to other stuff like video games and such too. It's been my opinion for a long time that most people are pretty much just casual fans and usually won't make that kind of extra effort to dig deeper.
say what you will about r/anime, but without their first-timer-friendly rewatch community I'd have probably stuck to watching nothing but seasonals until I burned out on anime entirely. they gave me the push to finally get around to classics like Samurai Champloo, Kino's Journey, Mushishi, Evangelion, and several others a few years ago. Hell, even now I'm watching Wolf's Rain with them. Not the most obscure stuff, but at least it got me deeper than surface level into this stuff.
Have you always had that arbok behind you? Arbok looks super cool and it used to be my favorite pokemon
So drunk rants are on the main channel now?
I was having a convo with my nephew about game streaming about how he was playing Roblox and some other stuff to get viewers, and it was working. And I basically said “I’m too selfish to do something like that. I only play what I want to play.”.
So I feel this. Why cover stuff that’s already being covered to death that doesn’t resonate with you for the sake of popularity? Feels gross.
I don't get your Mother's Basement hate. Because I have subscribed to both of you, RUclips has shown me videos you did together in the past.
The Kinoplex on Fb is a pretty gud community for discussing film and shit (not necessarily anime) that isn't the most popular/new/hyped, there's also groups dedicated to old pre 2000s anime. They're small, but they're there
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Your point about the fact that our interest is partly social remind me about jeff s video about binge watch and how it conflits with the social watching expérience.
Part of the reason why people stick only to seasonal anime apart from what you said is that you don t want to miss a new classic:sure there are old things that are proofed and thought provoking, but watching the new stuff feels a bit like an adventure.
When I started being a huge anime watcher, i would pick a show out of an alphabetic lust at random and generally not care about when it was made.its only xhen i was deep into the commu that new ones took a huge part(right now i don t watch much of either though:im more into games and i play both mainstream up to date thingy and games i heard good things about/good synopsis)
Group watch might be a solution although whenever i get asked to watch i almost don t want to just Because i am a contrarian.
I get that classics and old out of the boxes expériences are refreshing Because of their quality and because they go against the grain but this shouldn t be about opposing the mainstream to the outsiders.while they DO compete for your time,just being something generic isn t an automatic no:the world crafted might feel alive and unique even then.
I feel like reviewers have now taken on a third job this being entertainment in the form of tearing apart garbage (best of the worst, search for the worst,etc.)
I feel like it's important to talk about mediocre content even if it is famous, or else people will think you just forgot to talk about it. For instance, theneedledrop's reviews are all interesting and all the 5/10 or less that he gave on albums are interesting information, it can help you know if it is worth your time to listen to these albums or not, and if he didn't review those albums (especially popular or hyped up albums), you wouldn't know if he liked it or not.
Guess we should bring up Patalliro! again
Wherever you got the thumbnail, works really well.
Maybe it's just because I don't like people or care much for community, but the idea of getting into or not getting into something just for the sake of the community or being part of the conversation seems asinine to me.