This is a great video and I appreciate you sharing it. There’s 40 splines on the inner and 44 on the outer torsion bar. One click on the inner lowers it abt 2.5”. One click on the outer lowers it abt 2.3”. Therefore you can use combinations of inner and outer clicks up or down to get the drop you want all based upon the stock baseline. That’s using a 16.5” 944 trailing arm dimension and geometry. Your actual results may be different but that’s a very high level explanation of the theoretical mathematical bit. Cheers!
I bought my first 924 about 32 years ago and they weren't very popular. I also had an RX7FB at the same time but you couldn't get lowering springs or coilovers back then. Well not easily anyway. It's amazing how cool they look once slammed. In fact, am about to buy another 924 and came here to learn how. I've put a deposit on a 1981 base model 924 with slick top and wind up windows. It's a silver car and I'd really like a red leather interior and 17'' Fuchs alloys. Well that's the plan anyway.
I'll definitely be saving this video for future reference when it comes time to lowering the rear of my 944. Didn't realize it would be so easy. Was always intimidated about the math of torsion spring adjustments.
@@JohnLudwick I love the production quality of your videos it literally feels like you should have 100x the subs. I own a 1987 944 and a 1958 biscayne I'm putting on a 96 caprice 9c1 cop car hahaha
Just had my car apart, installed 968 TB's; 19mm adjustable sway, stiffened up the rear a lot. I installed a pair of Koni adjustable shocks as well. I ended up with 24.5" at the center of the wheel well on the rear. On the front I installed H+R 250 lb springs, 968 sway bar and 240 Volvo calipers with street pads, I ended up with 25.5" on one side and 24.25" so I have more than an inch difference. I am thinking coil overs is the only way to get the front down to 24.5" on both sides. I live where there are mountain roads. Glad to see the torsion bars re indexed, not as complicated as it is made out to be
So you got a good result adjusting the rear hight with just the spring plate ??😀🚘 I think that mine should be lowered ,thoughts??😀😀😀😀🚘🚘🚘 ruclips.net/video/hCHTXCKGf7U/видео.html
I've decided to do the torsion bar delete gaz gold suspension for a couple of years. Not been able to fit it moved house and had a kid inspiration to get back on the road
Hey, just catching up with my long list of videos... maybe I missed it in the 944 purchase video, but is the original colour more of a champagne colour? Also, shout out to Elliott - such a down to earth guy, so knowledgeable and love how he explains things so simple.
Thank you for this video this is your subscriber on the West Coast Los Angeles. All I Gotta say is this 944 is nice I love it whole lol it is it looks really good. Thank you this is nice🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Nice work! Did you happen to take any before/after measurements on the rear - either in wheel gap or kick panel height from the floor? Looks like 2 clicks dropped it 2-3 inches? It would be nice to know how much drop results from each click.
Just curious how the car is handling a few months post cutting the front coils. I Want an affordable drop for a summer toy. .. looking at coils but just curious ..I haven't rode cut springs in 15 years .. is it as rough as I remember?
Elliot’s one of the nicest and honest dudes I’ve met. Shoutout 944 barn.
He really is!
It's awesome to see these cars being worked on more frequently and not just discarded. Hopefully it will bring more enthusiasm to the 944 space.
That color is phenomenal !
This is a great video and I appreciate you sharing it. There’s 40 splines on the inner and 44 on the outer torsion bar. One click on the inner lowers it abt 2.5”. One click on the outer lowers it abt 2.3”. Therefore you can use combinations of inner and outer clicks up or down to get the drop you want all based upon the stock baseline. That’s using a 16.5” 944 trailing arm dimension and geometry. Your actual results may be different but that’s a very high level explanation of the theoretical mathematical bit. Cheers!
spot on
I bought my first 924 about 32 years ago and they weren't very popular. I also had an RX7FB at the same time but you couldn't get lowering springs or coilovers back then. Well not easily anyway. It's amazing how cool they look once slammed. In fact, am about to buy another 924 and came here to learn how. I've put a deposit on a 1981 base model 924 with slick top and wind up windows. It's a silver car and I'd really like a red leather interior and 17'' Fuchs alloys. Well that's the plan anyway.
There's something about a slammed 944 which is so wrong, yet so brilliantly right! Nice work dude 👍
They totally transform with just a few inches of drop, it’s crazy! And thank you!
Elliott helped me do the same thing with mine. 2 teeth in the back (30mm Sway Away Torsion bars) with the Paragon front coilover kit.
That’s awesome man!
That chassis is immaculate. 👌🏼
She’s a beauty queen. Props!
I'll definitely be saving this video for future reference when it comes time to lowering the rear of my 944. Didn't realize it would be so easy. Was always intimidated about the math of torsion spring adjustments.
Please do more videos of the 944 it's always so entertaining
I appreciate that!
@@JohnLudwick I love the production quality of your videos it literally feels like you should have 100x the subs. I own a 1987 944 and a 1958 biscayne I'm putting on a 96 caprice 9c1 cop car hahaha
Just had my car apart, installed 968 TB's; 19mm adjustable sway, stiffened up the rear a lot. I installed a pair of Koni adjustable shocks as well. I ended up with 24.5" at the center of the wheel well on the rear.
On the front I installed H+R 250 lb springs, 968 sway bar and 240 Volvo calipers with street pads, I ended up with 25.5" on one side and 24.25" so I have more than an inch difference. I am thinking coil overs is the only way to get the front down to 24.5" on both sides. I live where there are mountain roads.
Glad to see the torsion bars re indexed, not as complicated as it is made out to be
Just got a 1989 944 Turbo. Amazing piece of engineering.
I've been looking for a re-index vid for a 944 for awhile! most just use the 3/4 inch camber adjustment which isn't enough drop. thanks!!
That’s awesome man! Glad this could help!
Excellent video! Lobster claw wheels will look epic on that 944
Haha, the feeling of working on a 30+ year old car and not finding bolts rust-welded to components is so great.
Always have a spot in my heart for the 944
Likewise!
I recently adjusted my eccentric bolt and happy with height but great to see the torsion adjusted on video. Thanks for the updare
So you got a good result adjusting the rear hight with just the spring plate ??😀🚘 I think that mine should be lowered ,thoughts??😀😀😀😀🚘🚘🚘 ruclips.net/video/hCHTXCKGf7U/видео.html
Hi Pete, I'm a big fan of your 944 I've been following the videos and I really dig how it looks with the front defuser and bumper pad removal.
Good video pal really appreciate the indexing, explained it so simple
Thanks man! I’m glad it was helpful!
I've decided to do the torsion bar delete gaz gold suspension for a couple of years. Not been able to fit it moved house and had a kid inspiration to get back on the road
You should see if they can split the stock wheels at three-piece. That would look so good and OEM+ always loved that style of bbs
Hey, just catching up with my long list of videos... maybe I missed it in the 944 purchase video, but is the original colour more of a champagne colour? Also, shout out to Elliott - such a down to earth guy, so knowledgeable and love how he explains things so simple.
When you get the front coil overs 250-300lbs is the ideal rate for street driving. In my opinion. Might want to get bigger sway bars too.
That’s good to know! Thanks!
Reminds me of when I lowered my 914 in the rear but I used coilovers in the front
That’s awesome!
Dude elliot is everywhere
Great video with great details! Came out at the perfect time, I am getting ready to drop the rear suspension, good to have this info.
That’s awesome! And thank you!
Thank you for this video this is your subscriber on the West Coast Los Angeles. All I Gotta say is this 944 is nice I love it whole lol it is it looks really good. Thank you this is nice🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Nice work! Did you happen to take any before/after measurements on the rear - either in wheel gap or kick panel height from the floor? Looks like 2 clicks dropped it 2-3 inches? It would be nice to know how much drop results from each click.
might i be able to purchase this beauty when you are completed with this project?
im lucky i have coil overs on my S2. this has definitely motivated me to slam it, atleast for the summer
They look so good low!
Jesus. That looks so damn good.
Shout out to elly!!!! Called him tonight! And my 924s will live again! You need parts for these! You goto him!
*takes notes*
😂😂😂
Just curious how the car is handling a few months post cutting the front coils. I Want an affordable drop for a summer toy. .. looking at coils but just curious ..I haven't rode cut springs in 15 years .. is it as rough as I remember?
what year is yours, just got a 86 turbo and wanting to do this method to lower it?
Thanks for saving me a few dollars 🙏🏾
That’s great man!
The 'necks cornered the 944 market
my dream car
Nailed this video awesome job
Thank you!
Whats the car when you first walk in? The one siiting on the blocks.
That’s my 1960 Auto Union 1000SP, I’m currently documenting bagging and body dropping it over a Beetle chassis!
@@JohnLudwick thats awesome. I look forward to seeing more of it 👍
Nice vid, thanks! I wish I had a lift
I just got mine installed last month, and it’s been a game-changer!
Looks cool.
Anyone know the name of the wheels on the 944?
They are Rial Mesh!
@@JohnLudwick thanks for that John! Are you using adaptors to mount the wheel?
@@matthewgarrido4699 If you still need it. The Rial Mesh come in the 5x130 PCD so they fit on most classic Porsches without adapters.
Looks damn good!
What Wheels Are These??
Is this a factory 944 color?
@john if you’re replacing the wheels I have a set of 15” real Fuchs to trade 😉
Good morning, Chief!
#CommentForTheAlgorithm
Haha thanks man!!
Like the color, paint to order?
Keep ‘em coming! 😂
Shame to swap out those wheels, but... we'll see.👍
Super easy to put them back on!
Name of wheels please ?
What is the total drop
It looks like the rear is a bit too low 🤔🤔🤔🤔🚘🚘 great color !!! What is it??😁😁😁🚘🚘🍺🍺🍺
That's a cool video. But I wouldn't do this on my car. But mostly because I have no workshop and I'm no mechanic xD. Its a lot oft work.
It is a good amount of work to drop the rear end!
The wasy way is with a 2 pc rear arm
I guess you folks have no speed bumps or Hills😂 good luck with that😂
S2 Turbo, who destruyed the S2
Porsche designed it that way...so it's proper...🤔😏
👍
Por-sha
Too low for my taste but very interesting to watch. Thanks.
Why does she have the better 944 body? does she require simping lol?
Car is nose high so you are tipping weight to the rear, would probably be a pig in the track
What kind of idiot would lower a 944? It's already like sitting on the ground.
it sits like the way it should now
I agree!