Water is life, cut the one who provides and manage it and everyone dies. Oceanus has wider dominion and control than Poseidon who only took charge after their war
Poseidon also ruled over the sea as a life giving force And unlike Oceanus he also ruled over the aspect of the sea that separated lands. His name Poseidon means "chains of the feet". He is also responsible for keeping the kingdom of life (Demeter's domain) and the kingdom of death (Hades' domain) separate. He is also the one who created the gates of Tartarus that imprisoned the titans. Beyond that, he, unlike Oceanus, has power over the earth. He is the earth shaker and anything related to the violent aspects of earth (earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc) are his to command. He is also the storm bringer, whose command over the weather is only behind his brother Zeus and Sister Hera.
In a philosophical and literary perspective you could argue that Oceanus was the world sea itself, the massive body of water that encompasses the entire terrestrial earth, while Poseidon was the ruler of those waters. Classical Period Greeks were worshipers of deities who controlled the elements and not so much the elements themselves: Zeus isn't the thunderbolt, the thunderbolt is his weapon; Hades isn't the underworld, he only ruled over it as a jailer, and so on ad infinitum. Bronze Age proto-Greeks would have worshiped the sea and personify it as a result, while the Ancient Greeks worshiped a more closer to home entity. Basically, Poseidon was more revered because he would have been a glorified harbor master.
Sounds possible and that the whole Titan vs Olympian myth is like a justification of proto-religion being replaced by more personified forms Also, there is a division between creators, primordials, rulers. I think of Brahma, Brahman then Shiva and Vishnu are the ones actually doing things nowadays 😆
Oceanus seems like he didn’t want to compromise the ocean and by extension life itself by taking a side. So he implicitly took a side without openly taking a side
Oceanus feels like he's the Hades of his generation. That is he's generally a chill guy compared to most of his siblings, focused on his domain and didn't get involved with Cronus and Zeus' BS by pulling a Switzerland in the Titanomachy
As I understand it, “Oceanus” in addition to the Titan was the freshwater river that encircled the world, which for the very early Classical Greeks meant what we know as the Atlantic Ocean (later Greeks would know that was saltwater too, and the world was round, but the earliest surviving myths didn’t have that understanding yet). As god of the saltwater sea, Poseidon ruled the Mediterranean, which was the body of water the Ancient Greeks actually interacted with regularly, hence his much more important role.
If the ancient Greeks had sailed into the Atlantic Ocean, we would've heard of it - don't you think? Since voluminous evidence strongly suggests the "ancient civilizations" didn't sail into the Atlantic Ocean because the oceans didn't exist, since the old records tell us WHEN the Atlantic appeared, and since we know the forces that formed the ocean waters, why assume the oceans existed at the time of the ancient civilizations?
@@WhirledPublishing Plato literally describes the old location of Atlantis (which I’m not suggesting was real or even a myth, it was a political allegory) as being in the waters beyond the Pillars of Heracles.
@@glamourweaver Some researchers say the Pillars of Heracles were on Malta, some say the Gibraltar Strait ... ? If the Pillars were on the north and south sides of the Gibraltar Strait - as some claim - this wouldn't prove the Atlantic Ocean existed because the old maps show the coasts of the Iberian Peninsula, the Bay of Biscay, the Celtic Sea, the British Isles and up to northern Europe - no oceans. I'm not sure if your reply was an attempt to defend the existence of the Atlantic Ocean but it's not on the maps until the 1490's - do you think "ancient" Greeks and "ancient" Phoenicians, "ancient" Hebrews and "ancient" Egyptians sailed the oceans for thousands of years but no one reported it for thousands of years? The old documents clearly tell us when the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans appeared - and when the continents appeared, when the mountains appeared, when the cataclysms happened, when the tectonic plates were broken and subducted, when the ocean trenches and archipelago islands were formed, they tell us the timeline for the Antarctic mountains, glaciers, ice shelves and volcanic eruptions, etc. - they tell us the timeline for the Grand Canyon, the Siberian and Deccan Traps, and so on - they tell us the "experts" are insane lunatics.
@@glamourweaver Some researchers claim the Pillars of Heracles were along the shores of the Black Sea: www.google.com/search?q=map+the+location+of+the+pillars+of+hercules&sxsrf=ALeKk01Fw0XrNw9e2pObsgW_G2-zlZPwng:1609722258937&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwja6bjbioHuAhWMIjQIHQD-BqgQ_AUoAnoECBEQBA&biw=1366&bih=617
Pontus is the Sea, Oceanus is the fresh water Ocean river, a river that encircles the world. They are not the same (only in the roman period they started to be seen as the same).
@@chickenpotpieare3things there is a lot of confusion in believing that Ocean is the sea. He is actually the titan god of the fresh water, ocean river, not the salty sea, who is Pontus the primordial.
@@chickenpotpieare3things the ancient greeks believed the world to be flat as many pagans believed. If the world was flat, then it has borders, this borders where a giant River that encircles the world, and the river was called Ocean, and his god is Oceanus. So the salty Seas are inside Ocean, and the salty sea is the domain of Poseidon. Imagines Europe, Africa and Asia in the middle of a round map, and all the seas closes to them, and them encircling this seas, we have the ocean river, the source of all fresh water, because the rivers are gods and sons of Oceanus, and the clouds are nymphys and his daughters and they bring rain. But as the knowledge of the world increases, they discovered that there is no ocean river, and the romans decided to call the open sea "ocean", Seneca the roman dramaturgist even creates a history in one of his plays that Oceanus has open his river and revelead to man the entire world between the mythological age (that ended 1100 b.c) and his own age (the first century).
Notice all old religions anthropomorphise everything. There’s always some humanoid thing that represents *insert physical property here*. Anything that’s not humanoid is usually an evil monster.
SSHHHHH Don't ruin the fun. Also it may not be that all things are Anthropomorphic rather that all the gods and titans are assigned a job dealing with a aspect of reality. Its the difference between being garbage and being a garbage man.
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I've never heard of this Oceanus as a god of the seas until I saw this. Nor did I realize there was another God In Greek mythology as a god of the seas except Poseidon himself. This is really an eye opener to me. Very well done here. I really have enjoyed this look into the history of Oceanus himself.
Oceanus is not the god of the sea, that one is Poseidon and Poseidon only. Oceanus is the god of the ocean river, a fresh water river that encircles the world. The first ruler of the sea was Pontus (who is the sea itself), then Aigaon (a sea god, son of Pontus, he was thrown into Tartarus in the titanomachy), and them Poseidon. Oceanus in other hand always ruled is freshwater river that is beyond the domain of Poseidon.
Water will always find a balance which is justice. He was also the source of water required for life itself. again balance is required in all things a lesson we are learning right now with our climate. impartial would be a great description of Oceanus. He represents balance and impartial justice which must run throughout both the land and amongst the sky. Showing both man and gods require balance and laws and care of the water we need.
Entertaining video - and thy voice has that enticing texture - It'd be delightful if you could make a video about ancient Nyx. There's a quite revealing passage in the Iliad where father Zeus pursues Hypnos to punish him for putting him to sleep. Zeus chases Hypnos until the latter seeks protection at the throne of Night. Zeus steps back in awe and respect.
The primordial gods are all far above other gods in myth as a whole. Whenever I see people say Zeus was the strongest I don't know whether to laugh or rage...
@@dhgodzilla1 in mythology that is a very rare occurrence. Mostly the primordials are the top dogs of every pantheon, but are so indifferent that the chief gods are left to handle the ruling business.
Gaia the land, Uranus the sky, Hydros the water, Chronos the time, Pontus the sea, aether the closest to space, Erebus the darkness, hemera primordial child of day, physis the nature, Phanes the light and nyx the night. There no other god like them in other God patreon.
I wonder this is why olympus gods always want to destroy the titans, maybe because they the origin and the true embodiment of the element that the gods possess, and the gods want to monopolize the elements.
Zeus never stripped Oceanus of anything. Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades all agree to share power by drawing straws and each would rule 1/3 of the universe/world and the land that man lives on would be neutral territory. The one who draw the longest straw would rule the Heavens and be lord of mount olympus, the next longest straw would rule the seas and the one who got the shortest straw would take the underworld. Since Poseidon got the middle straw he would rule over the seas. Zeus had nothing to do with this.
Maybe this was a more local legend but i remember a Greek friend of mine explaining that Oceanus married off one of his daughters to Neptune(drunk and can't remember Greek spelling) for all of the seas but the most wild. Meaning that Oceanus was like...The reason ships and monsters went down. Like in ancient times the explanation was "oh you crossed into the 'wild seas' or the ones that aren't protected"
My understanding is that there are/were 3 different rulers of the Oceans. A primordial born from Chaos known Pontos/Pontus, who like Gaia and Nyx, was the actual embodiment of his elemental force. Then came Oceanus, the first true physical ruler to be seen by the ancients. And then after Zeus's uprising against Cronus, Poseidon won the sea in a game of chance, which he happen to get lucky on since apparently the seas matched his personality more then the sky or underworld.
Not really. By Okeanos the ancient Greeks understood a great river of fresh water that surrounded the whole earth, thoug this perception began to change in later times. He didn't rule his domain but was his domain just like the primordials. Pontos was indeed the sea itself, and so was Thalassa, his female counterpart. Poseidon didn't rule Okeanos, only the sea.
Ocean is a river for the greeks, not the sea. Pontus was born from Gaea, not Chaos, and he was the sea itself. Them comes Aigaon, the son of Pontus with Gaia and the ruler of the sea or at least the Aegean Sea. He was thrown into Tartarus, thus Poseidon became the ruler of the sea.
H.P. Love craft wrote about the great old ones. Specifically about Cthulhu, sleeping deep beneath the sea... he was also a 33rd degree free mason. 🤷♂️
I recently seen one of their early temples was established directly underneath a church. Hellfire club temple to be specific. They had Greek god statues and even a river Styx that crossed into the underworld which was where they did rituals. The energy was so vile and sad knowing there were sacrifice victims. It actually stunk through the screen.
If they should tell you that the Kingdom is in the sea... The fish of the sea shall proceed you.... If they tell you the kingdom is in the air.... The birds of the air shall proceed you... For the Kingdom is within you and without but men do not see it.cheers!...BC17
@6:10 Poseidon ruled over the Mediterranean Sea by using his trident which was a sonar laser plasma weapon that he stole from his father - when and how this occurred is clearly documented in old records - the true timeline is very different from the timeline we are told. Evidence suggests Poseidon left the Mediterranean regions and ventured into the Atlantic with the horror and decimation to the lands and peoples there.
@@FresnoBoy6star Documented in the old literature, in other old records and in the excavated old cities is the destruction caused by colossal tsunami waves, volcanic explosions, falling ash, etc. - since some of those old records have dates on them and since the dates on the records contradict the timeline we've been programmed to believe in - for the "ancient civilizations", since the dates on the old records tell us the ancient civilizations existed hundreds of years ago - not thousands of years ago - since this includes the fact that the city of Alexandria is a few hundred years old - not thousands of years old, since the old records tell us that General Ptolemy lived in the 1400's and 1500's, since hundreds of other old records and thousands of other independent sources expose the artificially-expanded timeline as a psy-op, since the true timeline for our Earth's expansion, Earth's continents, mountains, oceans, etc., is documented by our ancestors which includes the timeline for the broken and subducted tectonic plates, the timeline for the ocean trenches and archipelago islands, the timeline for the Antarctic mountains, glaciers, ice shelves, volcanic eruptions, etc., the deception becomes conspicuous.
@@FresnoBoy6star Evidence suggests a few motives: Poseidon wanted a larger domain with more subjects, Poseidon wanted more sea waters for his growing family of hybrid sea creature descendants to live in, Poseidon got a thrill from using his trident and watching the power at his command... If you wonder why I concluded that Poseidon - and his siblings - were real creatures, rather than mythological fiction, the weight of of the evidence compelled me: 1. Since Zeus and Poseidon are described as shapeshifters, many assume this must surely be fiction, however, since we have shapeshifting creatures on this Earth now, to discount shapeshifting as "fiction" is rather small minded. Here's an example for those who are unaware: ruclips.net/video/eS-USrwuUfA/видео.html 2. Since the pagan popes erected a colossal monument to the pagan gods - in Rome - a few hundred years ago, we should probably pause on that for a bit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevi_Fountain 3. Since the old historic records corroborate the decimation to Mediterranean regions which the old literature tells us Poseidon is responsible for, to pause to ponder that is also highly recommended. 4. Since the Greeks keep the family tree of the "gods" on the walls of their homes and restaurants, we should probably pause to ponder that as well. 5. Since the Greeks tell us that Zeus and Poseidon stole their father's weapons / tools and since that includes the "Thunderbolt" and the Trident - and since their father was reportedly "Satan" who is often depicted with a "pitchfork", we are again prompted to pause to ponder this evidence... which goes on and on and on. In response to his evidence, I wondered why the popes of Rome would erect a colossal monument to the "mythological" pagan gods a few hundred years ago ... where was their monument to Jesus? I see none. Why do several old documents - from several hundred years ago - corroborate one another regarding the destruction Poseidon caused to the Mediterranean regions? Why were hundreds of "elongated skulls" found, collected and documented while their skeletons are not collected or documented? ( very suspicious ) On and on my questions go - on and on and on the evidence goes. Thank you for asking.
I'm only on this video because I had a nightmare the other day of descending into a giant black pit in a weird glitched looking area. As I was descending into the black abyss I was starting to see more structures underneath it and I heard the word "oceanus" and woke up.
I think of him much like I think of Nyx. These Primordials are on a higher level above Titans and Olympians. Zeus didn't mess with Nyx, but she didn't mess with him either, because she is the actual Night.
Okeanos is a titan, though. Zeus didn't mess with him (he just murdered one of his daughters y'know, no biggie) because they were on good terms with each other. Okeanos himself always stayed neutral in wars, but he was the one who convinced Styx and her children to support Zeus in the Titanomachy.
Ancinet Cultures knew the world was a relatively flat disk (enclosed above by the the dome that holds the stars) In Gre/Rom this "world- encircling river" at the disk's perimeter was personified as "Oceanus." This huge "river," in our world, is known as "The Southern/Antarctic Ocean" *Cpy/Pste:* 👇 The Azimuthal Equidistant Map Projection Look at the Antarctic Ocean. You will see exactly what they meant by the title "Earth-Encircling River."
At least in the Greek mythology the appearance of the primordial gods have a better explanation and it's more credible than "in the beginning there was word, and the word was with God and the word was God."
Who worships the Greek gods openly anymore? Greek gods are incestous when the males gods bred with women monsters were created the Greek gods are petty and act more like high school teens than responsible deities and are relegated to the nearly forgotten tomes and secret societies. Yahweh defeated the false gods, is still worshipped even today where are the Greek gods today?
@@Cmon2828 Many people do actually, now that christians no longer have the power to forcefully convert others. I hope you know there is a difference between mythology and religious beliefs... or do you genuinely believe that god created the world in six days?
@@omniavanitas7893 It’s just as likely as the Greek deities giving a box containing all the evils and unknown evils to a teenage girl to safeguard... I try to keep an open mind.
Jason Santos I think it mainly stems from the high probability that he was originally seen as the first father god instead of Ouranos like latter on, after influence from other Mediterranean cultures.
The Titanomachy has gone through many retellings over the years, in some versions it has Zeus imprisoning the Titans in Tartarus except for those who switched sides, or stayed out of the war. In later telling's Zeus comes to regret imprisoning the Titans and frees and forgives them (except for Cronus) the latter telling I surmise came about after the Roman Empire converted to Christianity and writers wanted to paint the Olympians in a more benevolent tone.
Not true. There is no version where he forgives the imprisoned titans, but there are many where he pardons (only) Kronos. Also this version had nothing to do with the Romans or with christianity, as even Hesiod mentions it.
Oceanus, was wise to had send his daughter and her children to fight along side the olympians, he secure a place for them in the new world, Bec he knew it was inevitable he and his kind were going to die .
A few sources say Oceanus was the ruler of the Universe before Cronus and Zeus... And that Cronus and Rhea vanquished Oceanus and Tethys from the High Throne to Tartarus when they claimed Dominion... I forget who wrote these bits...
Not sure if it was Oceanos and Tethys, but there was a pair of titans who ruled creation before being deposed by Cronus and Rhea, them being Ophion and Eurynome. While I heard that these two were sometimes identified with Oceanos and Tethys, I can't find just statements. But that doesn't mean it's wrong. Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica 1. 498 ff (trans. Rieu) (Greek epic C3rd B.C.) : "He [Orpheus] sang of . . . how, in the beginning, Ophion and Eurynome, daughter of Okeanos (Oceanus), governed the world from snow-clad Olympos; how they were forcibly supplanted, Ophion by Kronos (Cronus), Eurynome by Rhea; of their fall into the waters of Okeanos; and how their successors ruled the happy Titan gods." Lycophron, Alexandra 1191 ff (trans. Mair) (Greek poet C3rd B.C.) : "Him [Zeus] who is lord of Ophion's throne [i.e. the king wrestled and deposed by Kronos (Cronus)] . . . his [Zeus'] mother [Rhea], skilled in wrestling, having cast into Tartaros the former queen [Eurynome]."
I thought he was the god and personification of a river/stream encircling the world and not the personification of a ocean/sea which is kinda difficult for me to imagine
Water is life, cut the one who provides and manage it and everyone dies. Oceanus has wider dominion and control than Poseidon who only took charge after their war
Poseidon also ruled over the sea as a life giving force
And unlike Oceanus he also ruled over the aspect of the sea that separated lands. His name Poseidon means "chains of the feet". He is also responsible for keeping the kingdom of life (Demeter's domain) and the kingdom of death (Hades' domain) separate.
He is also the one who created the gates of Tartarus that imprisoned the titans.
Beyond that, he, unlike Oceanus, has power over the earth. He is the earth shaker and anything related to the violent aspects of earth (earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc) are his to command. He is also the storm bringer, whose command over the weather is only behind his brother Zeus and Sister Hera.
Oceanus: the most chill titan
Prometheus: Coward!
Oceanus: C H I L L
In a philosophical and literary perspective you could argue that Oceanus was the world sea itself, the massive body of water that encompasses the entire terrestrial earth, while Poseidon was the ruler of those waters. Classical Period Greeks were worshipers of deities who controlled the elements and not so much the elements themselves: Zeus isn't the thunderbolt, the thunderbolt is his weapon; Hades isn't the underworld, he only ruled over it as a jailer, and so on ad infinitum. Bronze Age proto-Greeks would have worshiped the sea and personify it as a result, while the Ancient Greeks worshiped a more closer to home entity. Basically, Poseidon was more revered because he would have been a glorified harbor master.
yeah like tartarus and gaea oceanus is both a god and a location
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This deserves a hart or to be pinned. Brilliant comment
@@quincyquincy4764 Thanks for the boost in confidence and the nomination!
Sounds possible and that the whole Titan vs Olympian myth is like a justification of proto-religion being replaced by more personified forms
Also, there is a division between creators, primordials, rulers. I think of Brahma, Brahman then Shiva and Vishnu are the ones actually doing things nowadays 😆
Oceanus seems like he didn’t want to compromise the ocean and by extension life itself by taking a side. So he implicitly took a side without openly taking a side
Oceanus was pop of the three thousand river gods called the Potamides and the three thousand Oceanid nymphs by his sister/wife Tethys.
I used to think Oceanus was diet Poseidon, but now I know Poseidon is Oceanus with sugar.
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I am so confused lol
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Cute lol
*Aquaman is confused*
"Are you my gramps?"
More like great grandfather
Oceanus: the original “not my problem “
lmao
Cronos:HELP ME DEFEAT THE GODS!!!!
Oceanus:nah.....not my problem bro
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@@Pxnk_hxzrd he missed the part where that's his problem
That was good animation with Prometheus and the eagle.
Aquaman: “I am the king of the ocean and the sea.”
Oceanus: “Hold my coffee.”
Well, the Olympic gods are official characters in the DC universe. So Poseidon exists
Hold my water
Also Oceanus: "and i really dont want to do this..."
Oceanus feels like he's the Hades of his generation. That is he's generally a chill guy compared to most of his siblings, focused on his domain and didn't get involved with Cronus and Zeus' BS by pulling a Switzerland in the Titanomachy
Both of them are the oldest males born of their own generations aswell.
As I understand it, “Oceanus” in addition to the Titan was the freshwater river that encircled the world, which for the very early Classical Greeks meant what we know as the Atlantic Ocean (later Greeks would know that was saltwater too, and the world was round, but the earliest surviving myths didn’t have that understanding yet). As god of the saltwater sea, Poseidon ruled the Mediterranean, which was the body of water the Ancient Greeks actually interacted with regularly, hence his much more important role.
If the ancient Greeks had sailed into the Atlantic Ocean, we would've heard of it - don't you think? Since voluminous evidence strongly suggests the "ancient civilizations" didn't sail into the Atlantic Ocean because the oceans didn't exist, since the old records tell us WHEN the Atlantic appeared, and since we know the forces that formed the ocean waters, why assume the oceans existed at the time of the ancient civilizations?
I’m sorry, what exactly do you think was beyond the Pillars of Heracles when the Greeks wrote about them?
@@WhirledPublishing Plato literally describes the old location of Atlantis (which I’m not suggesting was real or even a myth, it was a political allegory) as being in the waters beyond the Pillars of Heracles.
@@glamourweaver Some researchers say the Pillars of Heracles were on Malta, some say the Gibraltar Strait ... ?
If the Pillars were on the north and south sides of the Gibraltar Strait - as some claim - this wouldn't prove the Atlantic Ocean existed because the old maps show the coasts of the Iberian Peninsula, the Bay of Biscay, the Celtic Sea, the British Isles and up to northern Europe - no oceans.
I'm not sure if your reply was an attempt to defend the existence of the Atlantic Ocean but it's not on the maps until the 1490's - do you think "ancient" Greeks and "ancient" Phoenicians, "ancient" Hebrews and "ancient" Egyptians sailed the oceans for thousands of years but no one reported it for thousands of years?
The old documents clearly tell us when the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans appeared - and when the continents appeared, when the mountains appeared, when the cataclysms happened, when the tectonic plates were broken and subducted, when the ocean trenches and archipelago islands were formed, they tell us the timeline for the Antarctic mountains, glaciers, ice shelves and volcanic eruptions, etc. - they tell us the timeline for the Grand Canyon, the Siberian and Deccan Traps, and so on - they tell us the "experts" are insane lunatics.
@@glamourweaver Some researchers claim the Pillars of Heracles were along the shores of the Black Sea: www.google.com/search?q=map+the+location+of+the+pillars+of+hercules&sxsrf=ALeKk01Fw0XrNw9e2pObsgW_G2-zlZPwng:1609722258937&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwja6bjbioHuAhWMIjQIHQD-BqgQ_AUoAnoECBEQBA&biw=1366&bih=617
The art for this one is fantastic!
When my mind is occupied i just watch MYTHOLOGICAL STORIES just like this to calm down my nerves also. It was like my stress reliever❤
Oceanus is a Titian who is an introvert and he minded his own business😁💙💙💙💙🤔🤔🤔💙💙💙
Well done as always..would have like to have heard about Pontus the primordial seas/oceans
Yes, the primordials did come first
Pontus is the Sea, Oceanus is the fresh water Ocean river, a river that encircles the world. They are not the same (only in the roman period they started to be seen as the same).
@@chickenpotpieare3things there is a lot of confusion in believing that Ocean is the sea. He is actually the titan god of the fresh water, ocean river, not the salty sea, who is Pontus the primordial.
@@sonofcronos7831 I see, but isn't the Ocean salty too though? What is the difference between the Sea and the Ocean mythologically?
@@chickenpotpieare3things the ancient greeks believed the world to be flat as many pagans believed. If the world was flat, then it has borders, this borders where a giant River that encircles the world, and the river was called Ocean, and his god is Oceanus. So the salty Seas are inside Ocean, and the salty sea is the domain of Poseidon. Imagines Europe, Africa and Asia in the middle of a round map, and all the seas closes to them, and them encircling this seas, we have the ocean river, the source of all fresh water, because the rivers are gods and sons of Oceanus, and the clouds are nymphys and his daughters and they bring rain. But as the knowledge of the world increases, they discovered that there is no ocean river, and the romans decided to call the open sea "ocean", Seneca the roman dramaturgist even creates a history in one of his plays that Oceanus has open his river and revelead to man the entire world between the mythological age (that ended 1100 b.c) and his own age (the first century).
Notice all old religions anthropomorphise everything. There’s always some humanoid thing that represents *insert physical property here*. Anything that’s not humanoid is usually an evil monster.
SSHHHHH
Don't ruin the fun.
Also it may not be that all things are Anthropomorphic rather that all the gods and titans are assigned a job dealing with a aspect of reality.
Its the difference between being garbage and being a garbage man.
Its seems Titans are more like that, but Olympians are basically personified 'rulers' of such things that were already created.
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Ocenaus: *"Be Water, my friend."*
just brilliant video as always and I wish y'all in the comment section a great evening or day or afternoon
You too Hillary! You too!
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But you already said first
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_Ocean man, take me by the hand, lead me to the land that you understand_
The story of Heracles threatening Oceanus is very similar to that of Rama threatening to dry the ocean whilst crossing to Lanka.
Wonder if that's a remnant of the Proto Indo-European stories or just a coincidence
@@Coratlan Probably two different retellings of an even older story.
“Power (Cratos)” 7:15
*Greek opera starts to increase in volume*
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Am I getting a De ja vu?
I could've sworn you already explained Oceanus.
I thought the same you must be think of the other channel mythology and fiction explained
Oceanus is basically true neutral.
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Thank you for this detailed video.
Great video keep up the good work
5:28 Kratos: “Hold my coffee.”
Kratos dont drink coffee only wine.
Keep up the good work
I've never heard of this Oceanus as a god of the seas until I saw this. Nor did I realize there was another God In Greek mythology as a god of the seas except Poseidon himself. This is really an eye opener to me. Very well done here. I really have enjoyed this look into the history of Oceanus himself.
Oceanus is not the god of the sea, that one is Poseidon and Poseidon only. Oceanus is the god of the ocean river, a fresh water river that encircles the world. The first ruler of the sea was Pontus (who is the sea itself), then Aigaon (a sea god, son of Pontus, he was thrown into Tartarus in the titanomachy), and them Poseidon. Oceanus in other hand always ruled is freshwater river that is beyond the domain of Poseidon.
Water will always find a balance which is justice. He was also the source of water required for life itself. again balance is required in all things a lesson we are learning right now with our climate. impartial would be a great description of Oceanus. He represents balance and impartial justice which must run throughout both the land and amongst the sky. Showing both man and gods require balance and laws and care of the water we need.
Entertaining video - and thy voice has that enticing texture - It'd be delightful if you could make a video about ancient Nyx. There's a quite revealing passage in the Iliad where father Zeus pursues Hypnos to punish him for putting him to sleep. Zeus chases Hypnos until the latter seeks protection at the throne of Night. Zeus steps back in awe and respect.
The primordial gods are all far above other gods in myth as a whole. Whenever I see people say Zeus was the strongest I don't know whether to laugh or rage...
Good point but many children do surpass their parents (or at least used to)
@@dhgodzilla1 in mythology that is a very rare occurrence. Mostly the primordials are the top dogs of every pantheon, but are so indifferent that the chief gods are left to handle the ruling business.
@@dhgodzilla1 yeah true but there is a significant amount of evidence showing that Zeus was scared shitless of the primordial gods.
Gaia the land, Uranus the sky, Hydros the water, Chronos the time, Pontus the sea, aether the closest to space, Erebus the darkness, hemera primordial child of day, physis the nature, Phanes the light and nyx the night. There no other god like them in other God patreon.
@@majesticgothitelle1802 primordial gods in almost if not all religions are all comparable in terms of power.
Super interesting... thanks for the inspiration for my novel :D
Thank you for this terrific video! :)
Bro i work and exercise to these videos, these are essential to life
So, Oceanus was an ocean hippy... that's cool
Chill like me
Yes, thank you for sharing this!!
Thank you. Really helpful.
I wonder this is why olympus gods always want to destroy the titans, maybe because they the origin and the true embodiment of the element that the gods possess, and the gods want to monopolize the elements.
Yess! Amen! A good Greek mythology story
Can you please do a video do a video on Nereus from Greek mythology?
I smell incest, one of Greek mythology's favorite recurring motifs.
The embodiment of the phrase "You don't say"
The myth of Phaeton next!
You. are an excellent story teller, very. Interesting story. 😀
The first entity to ever say, "I don't give a damn!"
How can I like this video twice? 😍
Out of all the Titans', he seems to be wiser and more tactful than most of them.
This is so amazing & fantasticing story.
Zeus never stripped Oceanus of anything. Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades all agree to share power by drawing straws and each would rule 1/3 of the universe/world and the land that man lives on would be neutral territory.
The one who draw the longest straw would rule the Heavens and be lord of mount olympus, the next longest straw would rule the seas and the one who got the shortest straw would take the underworld. Since Poseidon got the middle straw he would rule over the seas. Zeus had nothing to do with this.
Maybe this was a more local legend but i remember a Greek friend of mine explaining that Oceanus married off one of his daughters to Neptune(drunk and can't remember Greek spelling) for all of the seas but the most wild. Meaning that Oceanus was like...The reason ships and monsters went down. Like in ancient times the explanation was "oh you crossed into the 'wild seas' or the ones that aren't protected"
Are you gonna do the primordial deities someday? Be great to hear about them
''Shooting arrows at the waves'' xD
Thanks for sharing
My understanding is that there are/were 3 different rulers of the Oceans. A primordial born from Chaos known Pontos/Pontus, who like Gaia and Nyx, was the actual embodiment of his elemental force. Then came Oceanus, the first true physical ruler to be seen by the ancients. And then after Zeus's uprising against Cronus, Poseidon won the sea in a game of chance, which he happen to get lucky on since apparently the seas matched his personality more then the sky or underworld.
Not really. By Okeanos the ancient Greeks understood a great river of fresh water that surrounded the whole earth, thoug this perception began to change in later times. He didn't rule his domain but was his domain just like the primordials. Pontos was indeed the sea itself, and so was Thalassa, his female counterpart. Poseidon didn't rule Okeanos, only the sea.
Ocean is a river for the greeks, not the sea. Pontus was born from Gaea, not Chaos, and he was the sea itself. Them comes Aigaon, the son of Pontus with Gaia and the ruler of the sea or at least the Aegean Sea. He was thrown into Tartarus, thus Poseidon became the ruler of the sea.
I love the Titan guys they are so nice and he is my favorite Oceanus
Reference to Oceunos could be a reference to the near eastern mythologies where water gods give birth to the Gods
Hi, can you please do a video about nymphs and the different classes of nymphs one day?
H.P. Love craft wrote about the great old ones. Specifically about Cthulhu, sleeping deep beneath the sea... he was also a 33rd degree free mason. 🤷♂️
I recently seen one of their early temples was established directly underneath a church. Hellfire club temple to be specific. They had Greek god statues and even a river Styx that crossed into the underworld which was where they did rituals. The energy was so vile and sad knowing there were sacrifice victims. It actually stunk through the screen.
Well this guy been around before maside in yeah the true Master of the ocean
#TeamOceanus
Oceanus is fucking awesome!!!! He’s da best Titan ever.
Since we on the topic can you do the primordial deity of doom plz I'm so interested in him
If they should tell you that the Kingdom is in the sea... The fish of the sea shall proceed you.... If they tell you the kingdom is in the air.... The birds of the air shall proceed you... For the Kingdom is within you and without but men do not see it.cheers!...BC17
Thank you very much. Very interesting :))
@6:10 Poseidon ruled over the Mediterranean Sea by using his trident which was a sonar laser plasma weapon that he stole from his father - when and how this occurred is clearly documented in old records - the true timeline is very different from the timeline we are told. Evidence suggests Poseidon left the Mediterranean regions and ventured into the Atlantic with the horror and decimation to the lands and peoples there.
Like what horrors
@@FresnoBoy6star Documented in the old literature, in other old records and in the excavated old cities is the destruction caused by colossal tsunami waves, volcanic explosions, falling ash, etc. - since some of those old records have dates on them and since the dates on the records contradict the timeline we've been programmed to believe in - for the "ancient civilizations", since the dates on the old records tell us the ancient civilizations existed hundreds of years ago - not thousands of years ago - since this includes the fact that the city of Alexandria is a few hundred years old - not thousands of years old, since the old records tell us that General Ptolemy lived in the 1400's and 1500's, since hundreds of other old records and thousands of other independent sources expose the artificially-expanded timeline as a psy-op, since the true timeline for our Earth's expansion, Earth's continents, mountains, oceans, etc., is documented by our ancestors which includes the timeline for the broken and subducted tectonic plates, the timeline for the ocean trenches and archipelago islands, the timeline for the Antarctic mountains, glaciers, ice shelves, volcanic eruptions, etc., the deception becomes conspicuous.
@@WhirledPublishing what made him leave the Mediterranean?
@@FresnoBoy6star Evidence suggests a few motives: Poseidon wanted a larger domain with more subjects, Poseidon wanted more sea waters for his growing family of hybrid sea creature descendants to live in, Poseidon got a thrill from using his trident and watching the power at his command...
If you wonder why I concluded that Poseidon - and his siblings - were real creatures, rather than mythological fiction, the weight of of the evidence compelled me:
1. Since Zeus and Poseidon are described as shapeshifters, many assume this must surely be fiction, however, since we have shapeshifting creatures on this Earth now, to discount shapeshifting as "fiction" is rather small minded.
Here's an example for those who are unaware: ruclips.net/video/eS-USrwuUfA/видео.html
2. Since the pagan popes erected a colossal monument to the pagan gods - in Rome - a few hundred years ago, we should probably pause on that for a bit:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevi_Fountain
3. Since the old historic records corroborate the decimation to Mediterranean regions which the old literature tells us Poseidon is responsible for, to pause to ponder that is also highly recommended.
4. Since the Greeks keep the family tree of the "gods" on the walls of their homes and restaurants, we should probably pause to ponder that as well.
5. Since the Greeks tell us that Zeus and Poseidon stole their father's weapons / tools and since that includes the "Thunderbolt" and the Trident - and since their father was reportedly "Satan" who is often depicted with a "pitchfork", we are again prompted to pause to ponder this evidence... which goes on and on and on.
In response to his evidence, I wondered why the popes of Rome would erect a colossal monument to the "mythological" pagan gods a few hundred years ago ... where was their monument to Jesus? I see none. Why do several old documents - from several hundred years ago - corroborate one another regarding the destruction Poseidon caused to the Mediterranean regions? Why were hundreds of "elongated skulls" found, collected and documented while their skeletons are not collected or documented? ( very suspicious )
On and on my questions go - on and on and on the evidence goes.
Thank you for asking.
I'm only on this video because I had a nightmare the other day of descending into a giant black pit in a weird glitched looking area. As I was descending into the black abyss I was starting to see more structures underneath it and I heard the word "oceanus" and woke up.
Good video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
hope we are going to get Proteus and Nereus next
The Oceanus in the thumbnail looks like adult Haley Joel Osment.
I want to see Apollo next
Man make videos on the primordial gods
Pretty cool stuff!
I think of him much like I think of Nyx. These Primordials are on a higher level above Titans and Olympians. Zeus didn't mess with Nyx, but she didn't mess with him either, because she is the actual Night.
Okeanos is a titan, though. Zeus didn't mess with him (he just murdered one of his daughters y'know, no biggie) because they were on good terms with each other. Okeanos himself always stayed neutral in wars, but he was the one who convinced Styx and her children to support Zeus in the Titanomachy.
Does he sound so mysterious or suspicious, even Hades could be trusted?
Ancinet Cultures knew the world was a relatively flat disk (enclosed above by the the dome that holds the stars)
In Gre/Rom this "world- encircling river" at the disk's perimeter was personified as "Oceanus."
This huge "river," in our world, is known as "The Southern/Antarctic Ocean"
*Cpy/Pste:* 👇
The Azimuthal Equidistant Map Projection
Look at the Antarctic Ocean. You will see exactly what they meant by the title "Earth-Encircling River."
At least in the Greek mythology the appearance of the primordial gods have a better explanation and it's more credible than "in the beginning there was word, and the word was with God and the word was God."
Who worships the Greek gods openly anymore? Greek gods are incestous when the males gods bred with women monsters were created the Greek gods are petty and act more like high school teens than responsible deities and are relegated to the nearly forgotten tomes and secret societies. Yahweh defeated the false gods, is still worshipped even today where are the Greek gods today?
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Many people do actually, now that christians no longer have the power to forcefully convert others. I hope you know there is a difference between mythology and religious beliefs... or do you genuinely believe that god created the world in six days?
@@omniavanitas7893 It’s just as likely as the Greek deities giving a box containing all the evils and unknown evils to a teenage girl to safeguard... I try to keep an open mind.
Yes he's the only neutral Titan and don't want to get involved in conflicts Greek mythology is Lord Rama complex
Jason Santos I think it mainly stems from the high probability that he was originally seen as the first father god instead of Ouranos like latter on, after influence from other Mediterranean cultures.
were doing a pretty good job of punishing it in modern times lol
Do the next Greek Titan/Titaness, Themis, Titaness of Divine Law!! Aunt/2nd wife of Zeus!!
THANK YOU!!
Adding to Oceanus' children is Doris who is is the mother of Amphitrite, Poseidon's wife.
The Titanomachy has gone through many retellings over the years, in some versions it has Zeus imprisoning the Titans in Tartarus except for those who switched sides, or stayed out of the war. In later telling's Zeus comes to regret imprisoning the Titans and frees and forgives them (except for Cronus) the latter telling I surmise came about after the Roman Empire converted to Christianity and writers wanted to paint the Olympians in a more benevolent tone.
Not true. There is no version where he forgives the imprisoned titans, but there are many where he pardons (only) Kronos. Also this version had nothing to do with the Romans or with christianity, as even Hesiod mentions it.
Oceanos the Introvert Titan
Just like me
Oceanus, was wise to had send his daughter and her children to fight along side the olympians, he secure a place for them in the new world, Bec he knew it was inevitable he and his kind were going to die .
They didn't die though.
Today's fact: *2012 is Ethiopians year in 2020*
Wrong it is 2013 now. It was 2012 😉
so the world is in fact ending in 2012. makes sense now.
@@alethia5874 Lol wow that is so true🤯
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A few sources say Oceanus was the ruler of the Universe before Cronus and Zeus...
And that Cronus and Rhea vanquished Oceanus and Tethys from the High Throne to Tartarus when they claimed Dominion...
I forget who wrote these bits...
Not sure if it was Oceanos and Tethys, but there was a pair of titans who ruled creation before being deposed by Cronus and Rhea, them being Ophion and Eurynome. While I heard that these two were sometimes identified with Oceanos and Tethys, I can't find just statements. But that doesn't mean it's wrong.
Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica 1. 498 ff (trans. Rieu) (Greek epic C3rd B.C.) :
"He [Orpheus] sang of . . . how, in the beginning, Ophion and Eurynome, daughter of Okeanos (Oceanus), governed the world from snow-clad Olympos; how they were forcibly supplanted, Ophion by Kronos (Cronus), Eurynome by Rhea; of their fall into the waters of Okeanos; and how their successors ruled the happy Titan gods."
Lycophron, Alexandra 1191 ff (trans. Mair) (Greek poet C3rd B.C.) :
"Him [Zeus] who is lord of Ophion's throne [i.e. the king wrestled and deposed by Kronos (Cronus)] . . . his [Zeus'] mother [Rhea], skilled in wrestling, having cast into Tartaros the former queen [Eurynome]."
*Starts playing Ocean Man by Ween*
*Ora...*
Weird how in Greek mythology water is not mainly feminine. Seems a little misogynist as women hold the birth waters and men never do.
Stories like these make me even more sad about the library of alexandria
I love the videos
Thanks to old strategy game, Age of Mythology. You able to learn and read about myth.
Can you do one on the mountain his brother do a video on all them and if you are or you can that would be awesome
in some versions it was he who provided zeus and metis with the poison to free the gods from cronus's stomach.
I thought he was the god and personification of a river/stream encircling the world and not the personification of a ocean/sea which is kinda difficult for me to imagine
In general it’s weird for me to imagine MANY different gods who personify waters because in the end ALL waters are connected and ONE water
Odd but intriguing......
Uranus should be pronounced “Ooo(r)ahnōs” meaning sky in general you pronunciations are good I just thought I’d let you know.
@Anuj Rawat Stupido your so clever
@@LancetFencing 🤣🤣