Windows File Search SUCKS

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  • @benloud8740
    @benloud8740 3 года назад +295

    I can search the entire internet faster than I can search my own documents folder

    • @johnthemannn
      @johnthemannn 2 года назад +7

      when your internets slower than windows file search

  • @christopherhilton2486
    @christopherhilton2486 3 года назад +2042

    Windows explorer makes you ‘explore’ your computer rather than find something

    • @leox23
      @leox23 3 года назад +119

      That’s why on Mac it’s called Finder

    • @rickbude3866
      @rickbude3866 3 года назад +12

      Makes sense

    • @gliderman9302
      @gliderman9302 3 года назад +43

      @great day report this guy

    • @nikhilPUD01
      @nikhilPUD01 3 года назад +11

      @@gliderman9302 yes I reported..
      Don't know what is RUclips doing.

    • @Tential1
      @Tential1 3 года назад +9

      @@leox23 lol, I'm dead.

  • @iyeetsecurity922
    @iyeetsecurity922 3 года назад +802

    *Search for a file on your PC??*
    _Nah. Just skip that and download it every time you need it._

  • @botonduller
    @botonduller 3 года назад +521

    "heghog cute"
    Ah, I see what you did there, a sneaky little "If Google Was Guy" reference

    • @vedpatel60
      @vedpatel60 3 года назад +1

      Can you explain plz? Cuz it seems like a reference I should understand but I don’t 😐

    • @The-Athenian
      @The-Athenian 3 года назад +10

      I was about to comment on that. Nicely spotted.

    • @alessandroruggiero8932
      @alessandroruggiero8932 3 года назад +2

      I have seen the video but never understood whet it meant

    • @ThorsShadow
      @ThorsShadow 3 года назад +14

      @@alessandroruggiero8932 Heghog = hedgehog. It is written wrong to represent people who, well, type wrong google searches. I think the "Google guy" in the video even aaks "Did you mean hedgehog cute?" to which the person loudly responds "HEGHOG CUTE". So, no idea how you'd not get it, when it's even laid out for you in the original video.

    • @alessandroruggiero8932
      @alessandroruggiero8932 3 года назад +4

      English is not my first language, that's why I did not get it, I did not know that work existed. Thanks a lot for the explanation

  • @chrisalmere20
    @chrisalmere20 3 года назад +106

    Yet in the old days we had 2 searches, one for file specific and one for content. file specific was over in a heartbeat.
    Windows messed up, royaly

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 3 года назад +25

      The best search in Windows was in Vista. THat's the only thing I'll lay praise on that OS for. Since then it's become progressively worse. It finds WEB results faster than LOCAL ones! It straight up just doesn't find some things! The number of times I've found installers for apps I was sure I installed rather than the app itself is crazy. Only to then find out I DID install it and Windows simply doesn't fucking remember. It isn't even in the Start list, you have to go into the program files and look for the exe manually.

    • @AFTstorm
      @AFTstorm 3 года назад +5

      @@TalesOfWar this shit pisses me off to tears. What the hell was windows even thinking?

    • @misterpink007
      @misterpink007 2 года назад +1

      So. Windows is slow and sucks
      because it's so good🤣

  • @guilherme5094
    @guilherme5094 3 года назад +303

    'As frustrated as we get with Microsoft sometimes, they're not stupid', ....that's an extremely debatable statement.

    • @iCore7Gaming
      @iCore7Gaming 3 года назад +1

      No

    • @KillaBitz
      @KillaBitz 3 года назад +9

      The Microsoft store is where I met my wife, I love her even though i could have gotten the same package with more features from elsewhere.
      I actually enjoy using an OS that never got finished for the best part of a decade.
      I love it when my files disappear after an update.
      I always hated the usefulness of the control panel and much prefer the thrill of exploring to find the setting I need, it keeps me on my toe's since even older versions of the same configuration page in win10 are different so i can't just cheat and google the location.
      I use Cortana for everything.
      NTFS is my friend and I wouldn't benefit at all from a more resilient format like BTRFS.
      Who needs HDR anyway.
      What do you mean that you think Windows is so bad that you don't trust it for mission critical tasks and you want to have it sandboxed in a VM but your frustrated that this is seen as a Pro feature that you must pay extra for....... "why am i paying more money for less windows!"
      Who doesn't love the thrill of not knowing if a long task will complete or windows update with close it.
      I aspire to be like Microsoft and take something that worked and chip away at the core features until it's far more convoluted.
      The best thing about my 32 Core Threadripper is the fact that %75 sits idle while i wait for large jobs to swamp the first 8 cores for hours at a time why would i ever want to fix that by using the Linux kernel.

    • @abhikbhaduri7252
      @abhikbhaduri7252 3 года назад +3

      You are smarter than all of the employees of Microsoft combined right?

    • @ashkebora7262
      @ashkebora7262 3 года назад

      @@KillaBitz I mean, half of those cited issues have obvious, known workarounds...
      You kinda' sound like an 80s sys admin who's butthurt because you never figured out how to wrangle Windows... As if Linux doesn't have its own wrangling. (this isn't a defense of Windows per se: I still hate it. Just commenting because I HATE it when people are their own biggest problem.)

    • @BrianHayesOfficial
      @BrianHayesOfficial 3 года назад +2

      Yeah they aren’t exactly stupid, just greedy as fuck and let that blink them 24/7

  • @romangervaise35
    @romangervaise35 3 года назад +64

    What i want to know is WHY windows XP's search engine on a HDD was more efficient and quicker

    • @sethadkins546
      @sethadkins546 3 года назад +15

      1. XP is less bloated, meaning less to go through
      2. XP's search probably doesn't go through file contents

    • @nishantpatil8407
      @nishantpatil8407 3 года назад +3

      Back in XP days 40-80GB were the most common HDD sizes. Now it's 1TB. And HDD read speeds are pretty much constant since XP times. Searching a 1TB drive in those days would take almost the same size as nowdays, if not more due to faster CPUs, RAM etc.

    • @romangervaise35
      @romangervaise35 3 года назад +3

      @@nishantpatil8407 I understand your point, but i have a Nvme SSD, very decent CPU and Ram and its very bad, the SSD doesn't have at least 10% of activity and sometimes when the searching is "done" i still can't find a specific file even tho i know it exists somewhere.

    • @krutarth_suthar
      @krutarth_suthar 3 года назад +3

      Exactly XP 👌

    • @poribrutal
      @poribrutal 3 года назад

      Because north american ceos fall apart quickly

  • @johnthemannn
    @johnthemannn 3 года назад +734

    I prefer not to wait until my dad comes home with the milk.

    • @mrtek8095
      @mrtek8095 3 года назад +28

      I don’t think he’s coming back

    • @johnthemannn
      @johnthemannn 3 года назад +20

      @@mrtek8095 :c

    • @Bobronium
      @Bobronium 3 года назад +9

      ​@@mrtek8095 neither does search end

    • @SamFromItalia
      @SamFromItalia 3 года назад +3

      the bar will never reach the end...

    • @yaaweehoo
      @yaaweehoo 3 года назад +2

      10220 days and counting. Probably just stuck in traffic...

  • @yeminiariel8502
    @yeminiariel8502 3 года назад +275

    I once searched for something in windows.
    It took a hell lot of time, so in the meantime I downloaded "everything" and searched for the same thing.
    It only took several seconds for everything to find this file and it was BEFORE windows search managed to find it.

    • @Kitulous
      @Kitulous 3 года назад +18

      "Everything" is instantaneous
      Because it monitors changes in real time
      As soon as a new file is created, or renamed, or moved, or something, Everything immediately knows about that.

    • @dawsonramdass1145
      @dawsonramdass1145 3 года назад +4

      Yeah and I don't even leave it to run in the background
      I have 3 drives on my pc and one is full of backups (a 3tb drive)
      And everything still takes probably less than 30 seconds to index everything on startup

    • @Darthquackius
      @Darthquackius 3 года назад

      I recommend AgentRansack personally

    • @sycration
      @sycration 3 года назад +12

      MS could buy/license Everything and make it built in for what would be pennies on the dollar for them but they won't because ???

    • @dawsonramdass1145
      @dawsonramdass1145 3 года назад

      @James Smith yeah I know
      I just prefer having nothing at all start at boot lol

  • @GreaterJan
    @GreaterJan 3 года назад +71

    It's incredible to me how I can search the web in 0.016 seconds but it takes half an hour to find something on my local PC.

    • @johnthemannn
      @johnthemannn 2 года назад +7

      0.016 years to find something on your local pc*

  • @howdyimflowey4341
    @howdyimflowey4341 3 года назад +253

    I just use Everything, indexes the whole drive with 0 resource cost.

    • @ItsHoro
      @ItsHoro 3 года назад +49

      I mean to be fair, it doesn't use "0 ressources" also it "only" indexes file and folder names, instead of file contents, but yeah Everything is a much more pleasant user experience.

    • @howdyimflowey4341
      @howdyimflowey4341 3 года назад +20

      @@ItsHoro Well yeah, but those resources are negligible compared to the windows search ones xD

    • @ecumber7319
      @ecumber7319 3 года назад +4

      It uses some ram but it’s pretty much instant.

    • @balazsh2
      @balazsh2 3 года назад +5

      @@howdyimflowey4341 file names are a fraction of file contents, much easier to index, not too impressive

    • @bygoneegowaitingremoval
      @bygoneegowaitingremoval 3 года назад +20

      @@balazsh2 ok, but 97% of the time is what one is searching, and it does that in real time. I don't even use Windows Explorer, just Everything

  • @maxthewincat
    @maxthewincat 3 года назад +159

    "Everything" is answer to everything!

    • @AndreasElf
      @AndreasElf 3 года назад +2

      @Shun Goku Satsu What shitty searchengine are you using? Voidtools is the first option when I search for everything with Google.

    • @evilmarc
      @evilmarc 3 года назад

      EverythingToolbar on github even integrates it into the taskbar!

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 3 года назад

      @Shun Goku Satsu just search "search everything" or "everything search"

  • @jmitzenmacher5
    @jmitzenmacher5 3 года назад +68

    macOS indexes everything by default, and it takes forever to build, especially on a hard drive. But once it's built, the search works beautifully.

    • @andriuskulikauskas6156
      @andriuskulikauskas6156 3 года назад

      Yup. I think most important rule to make index limited resource using.

    • @teahousereloaded
      @teahousereloaded 3 года назад +14

      Even better apple figured it out ca. 2004 so after 15(!) years windows still hasn't catched up.

    • @rippleeffect8374
      @rippleeffect8374 3 года назад

      so why cant a big company like Microsoft fix this problem ?

    • @jmitzenmacher5
      @jmitzenmacher5 3 года назад +1

      @@rippleeffect8374 it might be that they use different file systems, but idk

    • @joshuaeah
      @joshuaeah 2 года назад

      @@rippleeffect8374
      they dont need to because they have no competition

  • @muhammedaytekin6665
    @muhammedaytekin6665 3 года назад +145

    Nice Video, except the fact, that the filesearch on Windows straight up just DOESN'T FIND THE FILES. I'm fine with it being slow, I mean, there's technically no way around it, but it has to at least find the desired files...
    I also don't get how Windows Search regularly just refuses to show me apps that are installed on my pc...

    • @592Johno
      @592Johno 3 года назад +12

      Exactly this!!! It's so dog shit. This and the Windows search bar like wttttf

    • @TheBeastBHR
      @TheBeastBHR 3 года назад +2

      Use "Search Everything" App its very good and shows the results instantly.
      for your installed apps you might need to add a shortcut to the .exe file of your app to the start menu folder here is the location you should drop it in %AppData%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

    • @naanabsoj
      @naanabsoj 3 года назад +4

      Putting your query in asterisks helps...

    • @elbozo5723
      @elbozo5723 3 года назад +2

      no way around it? have you used a mac lmao there are ways around shitty file search algorithms

    • @Neobluelightning
      @Neobluelightning 3 года назад +1

      I play rocket league every day and it still can't find it lmao

  • @youarecorrectiamwrongbecau1338
    @youarecorrectiamwrongbecau1338 3 года назад +165

    *_Macos finder helps you "find" things whereas windows explorer helps you "explore" things_*

    • @Evan_Rodgers
      @Evan_Rodgers 3 года назад +30

      Yeah I’m not freaking Dora I don’t want to explore my files.

    • @Anderson_Roger
      @Anderson_Roger 3 года назад +14

      Lol, here's Mac which doesn't even have the ability to enter a path, cannot handle cut paste (for some reason), requires 10 steps to enable basic features like being able to view my hard disk.
      Need I say more? I'd rather take this "broken" feature and tweak it to my liking than not having the feature at all or worse let someone else decide on how I decide to use my pc.

    • @JackiePrime
      @JackiePrime 3 года назад +22

      @@Anderson_Roger macos is extremely powerful if you actually know how to use it

    • @kalle8348
      @kalle8348 3 года назад +3

      @@Anderson_Roger idk about the other stuff ur talking about, but cut paste works on mac (cmd+x), just not on files
      edit: typo

    • @deViant14
      @deViant14 3 года назад +5

      I loved fixing my nephew's locked/"disabled" iPhone. It said to hook it up to iTunes so I installed it on my PC. I have about a 100GB C drive on NVMe. It wanted to try an OS update so I started the DL. It ran out of space and "paused" the download. There is no way to change the drive to download to. I freed up enough space many times and each time it "paused" then required starting over. When I had about 10GB free it successfully downloaded. Then the same problem happen on extracting. I ultimately needed almost 20GB free on the C drive. What a trash program. Samsung and LG let you set the options the way you need them and don't need any extra space than the firmware itself. It's crazy what should take less than 30 minutes took a couple of hours. What program is locked to the C drive in 2021 besides Apple junk?

  • @Naddel81able
    @Naddel81able 3 года назад +28

    Microsoft still can't do what Voidtools can. That says much about their skill to code.

    • @buca117
      @buca117 3 года назад +5

      Honestly, it says more about their priorities. File searching is a pretty bottom rung feature. It's not that it's not useful if done correctly, just that they know their customer base has largely adapted to what they already have so other things keep taking priority. Microsoft may own half the world, but they don't own space-time, so they can only do so much.

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 3 года назад +8

      @@buca117 Microsoft makes billions of dollars a year. Do you think it's hard to make a functional search with billions while another guy does it for free?

    • @buca117
      @buca117 3 года назад +9

      @@flameshana9 Hard? No. A priority? Also no.
      My point is not that it can't be done. My point is that other things are taking priority. In the grand scheme of things, compared to chasing massive changes in the market (read: mobile devices), a clunky but functional feature is always going to get pushed down the list.
      Especially when they know that there are millions of people out there willing to develop solutions when they don't.
      Also, you're equating Microsoft with Windows. Windows is just one part of Microsoft. The revenue they generate yearly comes from a lot more than just Windows, and each of those things is going to get their cut of the pie to address their own lists of priorities. Windows itself is not even their most profitable product; that crown goes to their cloud services, followed by their office and business software (Office, Visual Studio, SharePoint, etc).
      Windows is the vehicle through which they sell DirectX, .Net, Office, and everything else that makes them money. Basically, on Microsoft's list of priorities, Windows itself is towards the bottom.

    • @bartholomewdan
      @bartholomewdan 3 года назад

      My guess is that they'll basically just ctrl+c ctrl+v Everything and have that as a major selling point for some future Windows version, even though they could just implement it in a patch.

    • @rippleeffect8374
      @rippleeffect8374 3 года назад

      they should just buy the company already

  • @arijitdas7526
    @arijitdas7526 3 года назад +220

    Everything is a great tool for searching files.

    • @welovfree
      @welovfree 3 года назад +12

      It's a must have peice of software for every Windows user.

    • @yasinomidi7525
      @yasinomidi7525 3 года назад +15

      I disagree, most things are not a great tool for searching files

    • @welovfree
      @welovfree 3 года назад +18

      @@yasinomidi7525
      He is talking about a software called "Everything" that indexes your files and lets you search everything instantaneously!

    • @R1ch4rd
      @R1ch4rd 3 года назад

      @@welovfree is it open source?

    • @welovfree
      @welovfree 3 года назад +2

      @@R1ch4rd I don't think so.

  • @casgirlsam
    @casgirlsam 3 года назад +8

    you just saved me so much time and frustration at my job! THANK YOU!

  • @GoodNight0wl
    @GoodNight0wl 4 месяца назад +1

    the worst part is that it spends all this time searching for a file you KNOW you have, and it still turns over no results.

  • @catzzzvb
    @catzzzvb 3 года назад +17

    If all this is true, which to my knowledge it is, why is the MacOS spotlight search so much better/faster/actually finds relevant content?

    • @Tarets
      @Tarets 3 года назад +3

      Because it indexes all the files, not just the ones selected default.

    • @catzzzvb
      @catzzzvb 3 года назад

      @@Tarets idk if that tracks; if they're saying Window search is slow because of the indexing but somehow MacOS indexes them all and is fast, something is wack

    • @tamoozbr
      @tamoozbr 3 года назад +1

      @@catzzzvb windows is programmed badly
      is that really new?

    • @catzzzvb
      @catzzzvb 3 года назад

      @@tamoozbr lol nope. But it is weird that LTT is talking about it like its just a matter of optimizing the index when something has to be more broken than that!

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird 2 года назад +1

      @@catzzzvb Windows is supposed to run on the shittiest machines ever, so by default they only index certain parts of the drive, while Macs are usually much more powerful than the base line, so they don't have a problem indexing everything by default.

  • @eainen
    @eainen 3 года назад +5

    A thing that additionally pisses me off about windows search is that when you search it lists results in some kind of phantom directory instead of just highlighting it in the explorer window as you'd expect from any usable operating system

  • @annurissimo1082
    @annurissimo1082 3 года назад +4

    30 minutes ago I was searching for a savefile for a game. It took it 20 minutes to search a 500gb SSD.

    • @claudio7010
      @claudio7010 3 года назад

      savefiles are usually in the docs folder or in the user folder

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 3 года назад +2

      That's actually another good reason to use the program called Everything. If you sort by modified you can check where the file is. Since it's the most recently changed file it'll show at the top and then you can find the folder it's in.

    • @annurissimo1082
      @annurissimo1082 3 года назад

      @@flameshana9 Oooh, I see. Never heard of the program. Thanks for the advice!

  • @babygorilla4233
    @babygorilla4233 3 года назад +3

    Can we get more videos on subjects like this? Seriously this is the first tech tip I've actually used on ages.

  • @Vortagh
    @Vortagh 3 года назад +3

    Woah, shoutout to whoever edited this video and apparently likes Asimov - and picked the best story ever.

  • @gigakoresh
    @gigakoresh 3 года назад +20

    Can you also make one about difference between Linux and Windows' handling of files that lets Linux avoid these problems and also not take an eternity to tell the user how much disk space a certain folda takes on the hard drive, regardless of how many files there are?

    • @kasciwu4939
      @kasciwu4939 3 года назад

      du, disk usage, actually takes the exact same approach as Windows - when I run du Downloads, it shows me the disk size for every single file in the folder

    • @gigakoresh
      @gigakoresh 3 года назад +2

      @@kasciwu4939 Run du -d 1 -h /home (or any other folda) and see how long it takes compared to windows

    • @kasciwu4939
      @kasciwu4939 3 года назад +1

      @@gigakoresh My guess is using -d 1 is only faster because printing to the terminal is very slow, and it's probably faster than Windows because ext4 gets less fragmented so it doesn't have to look around for all the parts of the file as much

    • @gigakoresh
      @gigakoresh 3 года назад +1

      @@kasciwu4939 No, that's not the case. The difference in speed is orders of magnitude and for modern computer, there is no difference between printing to terminal and displaying a window. Windows is reading every file in the folder and all subfolders separately (and I think - sequentially) in it's entirety to judge space. You can test this by seeing how much faster Windows will tell you the size of folder of movies (few large files) and e.g. program files (thousands of smaller files). The former is almost instant, and latter can take dozens of minutes. On Linux, the number and size of files makes no noticeable difference on the same hardware. I think it stores some kind of metadata file which contains all information about the filesystems, and which the kernel reads when queried for things like file size, but I don't have time to research this and I think it would be good for people to know so we can all pressure M$ to adopting a different file handling strategy (or at least understand why aren't they doing it already).

    • @tamoozbr
      @tamoozbr 3 года назад +1

      As someone that uses ubuntu, as soon as a file in a folder got updated/created and i try to refresh in order to see it, it takes like 20 years for it to load
      But at least it counts the size at like 5gb/s instead of a gb in 10 seconds

  • @r.g7261
    @r.g7261 3 года назад +5

    Well I do have my SSD and HDD entirely indexed and since then I've had no problems searching for anything. Results are instant and are always what I wanted. 10/10 recommend you guys to index your entire drives !

    • @FahadFSA
      @FahadFSA 2 года назад +2

      how big is the hdd and sdd. And what is the size of the index file it created?

    • @r.g7261
      @r.g7261 2 года назад +3

      @@FahadFSA Well my SSD is 256GB and my HDD is 1TB. About the index file, I don't think it's more than 2 gigs

  • @matthewgibboney2477
    @matthewgibboney2477 3 года назад

    i had a feeling this was the reasoning behind this but never knew the exact details or terminology.
    and now i know how to make this faster.

  • @v3xman
    @v3xman 3 года назад +1

    Windows Search is so slow, that it's faster for me to search and download Everything, install it, let it index, and then search and find my file.
    And the Windows search still hasn't found it after all that is done.

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 3 года назад

      I had a similar experience. I searched for a song in both Windows and Everything. I opened it from Everything and played it all the way through (a full 9 minutes) before Windows found it.

  • @Gohan1138
    @Gohan1138 3 года назад +3

    you know what really grinds my gears- that writing staff is off the chain

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      @pinne2675 3 года назад

      W•H•A•T•S•A•P•P••D•I•R•E•C•T•L•Y **±**1:**6**1**7**5**3**9**6**7**9**4
      I•N•V•E•S•T•I•N•G and M•O•R•E G•U•I•D•A•N•C•E:::::::::::::::

  • @RT-gaming
    @RT-gaming 3 года назад +17

    “Microsoft isn’t stupid…”
    *looks at windows OS files*
    🤔

    • @Narcostic
      @Narcostic 3 года назад

      Guess whose product is Windows

  • @lyalas
    @lyalas 3 года назад

    explained very nicely , i didn't knew any of that and always wondered why it took so much time , thankyou !!!!

  • @RohiGupta
    @RohiGupta 3 года назад

    simplest and best indexing video ever watched... Thanks TechQuickie !!!!!!

  • @NamePointer
    @NamePointer 3 года назад +33

    I literally can't use a computer for more than 5 minutes if it doesn't have "Everything" (the software) installed on it. I don't ever use the Windows Search anymore.

    • @swiftypopty1102
      @swiftypopty1102 3 года назад +1

      I never used Everything before I watch this video. Damn, everything make u "find" the thing u want

    • @aadisahni
      @aadisahni 3 года назад +1

      @@swiftypopty1102 you can pair it with a software called Wox that's just a search UI but it uses Everything to search the query

    • @nambypambylucassamovar4619
      @nambypambylucassamovar4619 3 года назад +2

      Are you bots

    • @nambypambylucassamovar4619
      @nambypambylucassamovar4619 3 года назад +2

      This seems like a scam

    • @SomeGuyWithAHat
      @SomeGuyWithAHat 3 года назад +1

      @@nambypambylucassamovar4619 I'm not sure either, most of the comments are promoting the same thing.

  • @CallMeEspi
    @CallMeEspi 3 года назад +72

    Just use Everything, users shouldn't have to configure their search at all.

    • @frozenturbo8623
      @frozenturbo8623 3 года назад

      Where do you get it?

    • @brolydictcumberbatchmontou401
      @brolydictcumberbatchmontou401 3 года назад

      @@frozenturbo8623 at the gettin' place.
      try googling and a sourceforge link will take you to it.

    • @hedlosa9574
      @hedlosa9574 3 года назад +2

      @@frozenturbo8623 looking into it myself but this seems to be the official site with download links (www.voidtools.com/en-au/) Am Aussie which explains the en-au

    • @Benzona
      @Benzona 3 года назад +2

      @@brolydictcumberbatchmontou401 found the Google user

    • @tim3172
      @tim3172 3 года назад +4

      @@Benzona Are you talking about the 92.05% of searches that go through Google?
      Yeah... most people are Google users.

  • @tilgare
    @tilgare 3 года назад

    I always watch Tech Quickies for a nugget of info here and there but generally am pretty tech savvy and usually don't learn a ton until you get into deep physics or engineering stuff. But I had no idea that there were so many options to manipulate the index - I'll 1000% be doing that today.

  • @anatolyivanov890
    @anatolyivanov890 3 года назад +1

    I like how you included realistic dusty dirty SSD picture instead of promo photo or rendering.

  • @etham1655
    @etham1655 3 года назад +17

    I never find the file I’m looking for even when I roughly know its name, it just gives me hundreds of shit files I don’t need when searching

    • @whitegoodman7465
      @whitegoodman7465 3 года назад +1

      Right, it searches every nook n cranny of every little registry file smh download the program called "everything" like half the comments are suggesting, its great.

    • @etham1655
      @etham1655 3 года назад +1

      @@whitegoodman7465 I’m a bit skeptical about it because usually whenever a product is highly recommended by multiple comments it’s just bots. Especially in finance comment sections. Here I’m still on the fence but might give it a try.

    • @CorporateZombi
      @CorporateZombi 3 года назад +1

      Windows key + R
      CMD
      C:
      Cd /
      Dir *.* /s /p
      Outperforms windows file search EVERY SINGLE TIME!

    • @etham1655
      @etham1655 3 года назад +1

      @@CorporateZombi thanks!

  • @theBabyDead
    @theBabyDead 3 года назад +5

    Honestly though? Being able to search for something you know is in a file, but you've lost the file (like sometimes happens when saving a word doc or smt), is pretty fookin' awesome.

    • @MARZ2121
      @MARZ2121 3 года назад +3

      Considering that the replies seem to indicate that the majority of people (Myself included) would rather have a working file search that's fast, they should at least made it optional. Honestly, both the explorer and the start menu search functionalities suck, which is specially apparent when freeware performs way better than them.

    • @theBabyDead
      @theBabyDead 3 года назад +2

      @@MARZ2121 I can't say I disagree with you, cause I don't. However, users like myself, who literally NEVER needs a file search as I use structures, except for situations like the one I mentioned, there tend to not be many options... Still, Microsoft chose to leave these options out of set-ups to make the setuptime more automatic and shorter. There's tons of hidden features in windows the average user doesn't know about. So I agree they should do something about it

    • @MARZ2121
      @MARZ2121 3 года назад +1

      @@theBabyDead Agreed, a better interface to let the user access all of the configurations should have been a priority from the get go. I think it's become worse as time went on, between Microsoft trying to phase out the control panel, but also delivering an incomplete settings app, you only have guesswork at your side if you try to find how to adjust any configuration. Just in this video we saw James explaining a simple trick, yet he needed to get into the control panel to adjust the index, and then go to the settings hidden by default (Not really, but I bet you most regular users don't even know that's a thing) on the charms tab of the explorer, which is completely separate from the control panel we were in just a moment ago. And I'm going to guess you are also a power user, so you must know how deep the rabbit hole goes when you try to configure your system.

    • @theBabyDead
      @theBabyDead 3 года назад +2

      @@MARZ2121 YES. Thank you!
      Same problem with android btw. Getting harder and harder to find the settings you want with every update.

    • @MARZ2121
      @MARZ2121 3 года назад +2

      @@theBabyDead Also agreed, I've long given up on trying to navigate the settings app since they change where things are with every revision. Instead I pretty much just rely on just using keywords with their search in order to try and guess which one will give me the option that I want.

  • @TLNik
    @TLNik 3 года назад +7

    Oooor they could've just gave us back more options to just specify our search, as it was in Windows XP, where I could've specified if I was searching for a file containing something, or just a file, or add a bunch of other parameters to narrow the whole thing, thus taking the part of the load from a system. But, of course, Microsoft isn't stupid. We clearly don't need it because PCs are already fast enough, and the amount of data on our drives absolutely didn't exponentially increase with how much of it we can keep.

    • @michaeldileo1954
      @michaeldileo1954 3 года назад +1

      It's there. You can find a lot of those under the Search option in the ribbon, or you can type it as part of the search parameters, such as "filename"foo*.txt", "ext:doc", "datemodified:today", etc.

  • @Endorion_YTC
    @Endorion_YTC 3 года назад +1

    THIS LITERALLY HAPPENED TO ME RIGHT NOW, indexing is turning itself off.

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 3 года назад +12

    29 06 21 YT (if you know, you know.)

  • @artemic1022
    @artemic1022 3 года назад +24

    "heghog cute"
    yeeeees CH reference

  • @SpecialEdvard
    @SpecialEdvard 3 года назад +1

    "ruptures my hot pocket" sounds incredibly dirty.

  • @BallinBoy008
    @BallinBoy008 3 года назад +1

    i hate when i search for a file and it likes to bring up bing search results instead

  • @ChaiTimeDataScience
    @ChaiTimeDataScience 3 года назад +8

    OS X Search is really one of my fav features about it!

  • @miquelfire
    @miquelfire 3 года назад +10

    Windows search annoys me because 99% of the time, I'm looking for a file with a certain name, and I don't care about the contents.
    Also, advert is something no Windows user can use if they don't have a Mac.

  • @solverz4078
    @solverz4078 3 года назад +2

    "It's better than waiting around until.... You're dead!"
    This had me laughing hard 🤣

  • @QruisS
    @QruisS 3 года назад +1

    Guess its finally time to sort my multiple meme folders

  • @nikohusten6588
    @nikohusten6588 3 года назад +4

    interesting - might be useful sometime.
    also: i absolutely hate the way the windows searchbar changed from Windows 7 going forward.
    I NEVER use it because its faster *everytime* just browsing through my files manually

  • @haiokthebeast
    @haiokthebeast 3 года назад +7

    1:37 waifu file.

    • @fl00ds
      @fl00ds 3 года назад +2

      Unrivaled image upscaler

    • @TheHueOfHues
      @TheHueOfHues 3 года назад +2

      Waifu2x is a very good AI image upscaler.

    • @bailingo
      @bailingo 3 года назад

      I was desperately looking for anyone else who noticed this lol

  • @InfraSolart
    @InfraSolart 3 года назад

    Thanks, this is one of the problems I have every once and a while but forget look up a fix.

  • @nostro1940
    @nostro1940 3 года назад +1

    When we search for something, we just want windows to search for *THE NAME* of the file
    Why trillions of bytes then?

  • @BlindingWulf
    @BlindingWulf 3 года назад +3

    I ran it a year ago it’s still running

  • @vaexperience
    @vaexperience 3 года назад +4

    Have you tried searching on a Mac? Because if it comes down to finding files on osx it's gone in the ether

  • @yuunashiki
    @yuunashiki 3 года назад

    What triggered me is when I search for a song, the HDD will wake up from idling, starts spinning, then the search begins. This takes 10 sec just to open a song. And sorting the music folder to artist or album etc is terrible also. So I moved all music files to SSD and problem solved. Saved Windows search by a lot of time.

  • @stickmanland
    @stickmanland Год назад

    Windows Explorer searchs only your computer. But Google searches billions of computers.

  • @SunnyOst
    @SunnyOst 3 года назад +25

    Is it confirmed that it searches through contents as well? I remember trying it recently when I was looking for a file and it found jack shit

    • @ArtyIF
      @ArtyIF 3 года назад +1

      maybe because it wasn't the needed extension

    • @jabob3496
      @jabob3496 3 года назад +4

      They mean document properties such as tags and descriptions not what's inside the document itself.

    • @andrasfogarasi5014
      @andrasfogarasi5014 3 года назад

      @@ArtyIF "Supported" is the correct term here.

    • @SunnyOst
      @SunnyOst 3 года назад +1

      @@jabob3496 who has tags and descriptions for their files? it'd be the most useless feature ever, except for some 3 people lol

    • @jabob3496
      @jabob3496 3 года назад

      @@SunnyOst If you really wanna be organized, work at a company that deals with large amounts of files and needs to find specific ones/groups of files really quickly it'd be very handy.

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 3 года назад +8

    I always found this annoying. Especially when I access a folder and have to wait for that bar to move across before I can even browse the folder. To mitigate this I tend to make folders inside of folders and stuff less than a thousand files in each one. Sure this means more confusion but a lot less waiting.

    • @aadisahni
      @aadisahni 3 года назад +2

      You should check out a software called Everything.

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 3 года назад

      @@aadisahni This. I hardly use Explorer anymore. I just press my shortcut key and type whatever I want. I don't need to remember where it is.

    • @aadisahni
      @aadisahni 3 года назад

      @@flameshana9 The only problem I have with everything is that I can't search inside any particular directory, always the entire computer.

    • @AMalas
      @AMalas 3 года назад

      @@aadisahni try agent ransack, then. i dont know everything, but agent ransack is really good!

    • @aadisahni
      @aadisahni 3 года назад

      @@AMalas I'll check it out.

  • @cantin8697
    @cantin8697 3 года назад

    I've not used that search for ages. I just use the one at the bottom at my taskbar. And that seems to be fine. Yeah, it focuses on programmes instead of things like specific folders, but it's all I need.

  • @khj5582
    @khj5582 2 года назад

    There are so many places where the search indexing options are hidden, and they are all conflicting. For example, the "new" index settings "Classic" and "Enhanced", I have no idea if they control the "old" settings, or vice versa.

  • @billal2731
    @billal2731 3 года назад +2

    Just use the "Everything" software

  • @ClellBiggs
    @ClellBiggs 3 года назад +3

    I turn indexing off and index files in my brain. Much faster and performance friendly.

    • @pinne2675
      @pinne2675 3 года назад

      W•H•A•T•S•A•P•P••D•I•R•E•C•T•L•Y **±**1:**6**1**7**5**3**9**6**7**9**4
      I•N•V•E•S•T•I•N•G and M•O•R•E G•U•I•D•A•N•C•E:::::::::::::::

  • @iris657
    @iris657 3 года назад

    i did not learn anything from this video, but it did trigger me to go poking around in windows 11 search settings which made me realise my index was buggered from changing my onedrive location and it was still pointing to the old non existent one. rebuild time, cheers.

  • @Ucofatoffski
    @Ucofatoffski 3 года назад

    Yes. Absolutely - It's awful.
    That never ending progress bar has made me cry for YEARS, before giving up the hope that it will ever reach the end of the bar.
    Bring back that dog!!!

  • @McVincient
    @McVincient 3 года назад +3

    When I search for a file in a folder with like 500 items, it doesn't not get that file! But gets others!

  • @cydragon2.099
    @cydragon2.099 3 года назад +5

    well that's odd that even a supercomputer could get slowed down by this

    • @cydragon2.099
      @cydragon2.099 3 года назад +1

      @@szymex8341 well would OS would they run? Linux?

    • @cydragon2.099
      @cydragon2.099 3 года назад

      @@szymex8341 but of course Linux is time consuming to get everything setup right

  • @elitedestroyer0083
    @elitedestroyer0083 3 года назад +2

    Holy crap I was just thinking of nuking a hot pocket and then the intro hit me.

    • @pinne2675
      @pinne2675 3 года назад

      W•H•A•T•S•A•P•P••D•I•R•E•C•T•L•Y **±**1:**6**1**7**5**3**9**6**7**9**4
      I•N•V•E•S•T•I•N•G and M•O•R•E G•U•I•D•A•N•C•E:::::::::::::::::::

  • @Dubmaster3
    @Dubmaster3 3 года назад

    When I am doing a file search I don't need the contents at all. I just need the file extension or filename, or things like file name containing string. So disabling the content part of the search would be amazing and speed it up significantly.

  • @milospanic111
    @milospanic111 3 года назад +3

    I love these rants, James is really going ham at it

  • @dibel3669
    @dibel3669 3 года назад +10

    I use powertools instead, pretty decent

  • @pgplaysvidya
    @pgplaysvidya 3 года назад

    i accidentally screwed up my windows search by trying to tweak it to only look for installed stuff. looking forward to that future video where hopefully you show us how to hide internet searches from windows key > cmd

  • @gregs_music_corner
    @gregs_music_corner 3 года назад

    Wow...where was this video all my life!

    • @user-pk7vs3xv2r
      @user-pk7vs3xv2r 3 года назад

      W•H•A•T•S•A•P•P••D•I•R•E•C•T•L•Y **±**1**6**1**7**5**3**9**6**7**9**4
      I•N•V•E•S•T•I•N•G and M•O•R•E G•U•I•D•A•N•C•E.:::::::::::::

  • @blaxxun75
    @blaxxun75 3 года назад +3

    "Everything" is the way to go. I use it since years. (Orange Magnifier Logo) Immediate results when it runs as a service. Never experienced any system slowdowns at all!

  • @flyhyland
    @flyhyland 3 года назад +3

    I turned this off yesterday coincidentally lol. Found my Disk space was often on 100% even tohugh it shouldn't and heard turning this off fixes it.

    • @grmancool
      @grmancool 3 года назад +1

      Turning what off

    • @afrozshaikh9099
      @afrozshaikh9099 3 года назад +1

      What did you turn off dude?

    • @sachyriel
      @sachyriel 3 года назад +2

      He turned off the indexing guise, it's not that hard. I did it too with my "new laptop" (2015 model I bought in 2020) cause it also had indexing eating up 100% disk.

    • @Avaryes
      @Avaryes 3 года назад +1

      File indexing, probably

    • @tiagoviana263
      @tiagoviana263 3 года назад

      How did you turn off? Help a brother out

  • @SS-ARYAN
    @SS-ARYAN 3 года назад

    I just miss typing something out on File Explorer and Windows live searching it instead of having to hitting "Enter" each time

  • @logicalfundy
    @logicalfundy 3 года назад +1

    For lightning fast searches of the entire system (but doesn't search file contents): Voidtools' "Everything"
    For deep searching of file contents: Mythicsoft's "Agent Ransack"
    IMO "Everything" is proof positive that an index-based search doesn't have to be slow, even if it's the entire system. Although it should be noted that it does have a tradeoff to what it does: The index takes a good chunk of memory. But it *is* lightning fast - the results are filtered as fast as I can type.

  • @SumriseHD
    @SumriseHD 3 года назад +14

    There's only one thing that takes longer than the Windows file search, and it's how long my father needs to get cigarettes.

  • @RyanRyan-no4vt
    @RyanRyan-no4vt 3 года назад +13

    'Everything' has probably saved hours, if not days, of my life

  • @RanjanManohar
    @RanjanManohar 3 года назад

    Genuinely useful techquickie in a while.

  • @Vaaaaadim
    @Vaaaaadim 3 года назад

    "Ruptures my hotpocket" lol, that's great

  • @Heplerking
    @Heplerking 3 года назад +6

    That's why I use EVERYTHING best search app I ever used

  • @Nico_Sama
    @Nico_Sama 3 года назад +3

    Microsoft is not dumb, they had a dumb idea so they invented a dumb solution.
    How about NOT looking through the file contents and just read the file names when most of the time that's what the user is looking for.

    • @SteS
      @SteS 3 года назад

      It's an option you can disable to search file contents.

    • @Nico_Sama
      @Nico_Sama 3 года назад +1

      ​@@SteS Did just that a long time ago and it's still dead slow compared to my previous HDD based win 7 OS. It's not just the contents that cause it though, it's the whole indexing, it's the bing search bs and everything else they do besides just reading file names like they were supposed to.

    • @SteS
      @SteS 3 года назад

      @@Nico_Sama true. It's by no means perfect. I use paid version of FC commander for file explorer replacement. Searches are accurate and faster. Plus there's regular expression searching. Have you tried hitting the windows key and typing _file:filename_ It's not bad. Same for apps with _apps:appname_

  • @nateo200
    @nateo200 2 года назад

    My search either takes forever OR it says it can't find it when Its totally there.

  • @amirhosseinbozorgi
    @amirhosseinbozorgi 2 года назад +1

    this is where "VoidTools"'s "Everything Search" index tool comes in @~ 1.5mb
    which after about 5 mins (on a REALLY relic & old pc) indexing, searches your entire (EVEN HDD) drive in less than a millisecond

    • @krimsonsun10
      @krimsonsun10 Год назад

      I came here to say this very thing, this comment should be pinned. "VoidTools"'s "Everything Search" is one of the first tools I install on any new pc and OneCommander File Explorer

  • @techzone2009
    @techzone2009 3 года назад +4

    Try Linux files search ..you love it 😊

  • @youarecorrectiamwrongbecau1338
    @youarecorrectiamwrongbecau1338 3 года назад +6

    The best thing has happened to me lately is seeing this comment section which made me aware of a software named "everything"

  • @joshuanine7690
    @joshuanine7690 3 года назад

    I love that it's a windows video with a Mac ad

  • @Flabbycakes
    @Flabbycakes 3 года назад

    Where has this been all my life.

  • @chlorobyte_projects
    @chlorobyte_projects 3 года назад +5

    And this is why you use Linux. You use find for file names, or grep for file contents.

    • @WyvernDotRed
      @WyvernDotRed 3 года назад +2

      Even the search function in most GUI based file explorers is very fast compared to the one in Windows Explorer.
      Probably because it most likely uses find internally, but you do not need the terminal for that.
      Not that I dislike the terminal, only many newcomers don't.

  • @tylerwitlin2641
    @tylerwitlin2641 3 года назад +5

    I really hope they fix a lot of the problems with search in windows 11

  • @SupraSav
    @SupraSav 3 года назад

    I have almost no files on my computer, it isn't bare, but my other drives are just storage of pictures and videos, yet searching for a file name still takes forever. The only thing that works is knowing before hand what folder the file is in(sort of defeats the purpose..) and searching in that folder.

  • @riccardopezzani
    @riccardopezzani 3 года назад

    Well, one of the last updates killed entirely the search on my pc at work, so considering that any solution on the net failed to repair it I guess I will try an alternative and put an end to all this nonsense once for all

  • @user-xu4nw1rd2e
    @user-xu4nw1rd2e 3 года назад +11

    Loved the "If google was a guy" reference.

  • @tanujsingh9747
    @tanujsingh9747 3 года назад +4

    Welp that was informative.

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 3 года назад

      A better video would have been:
      "It really does suck, so download Everything instead and thank us later." Boom, nice short video that's much more helpful.

  • @theofficialrafff
    @theofficialrafff 3 года назад +1

    FINALY SOMEONE MAKES THIS

    • @user-pk7vs3xv2r
      @user-pk7vs3xv2r 3 года назад

      W•H•A•T•S•A•P•P••D•I•R•E•C•T•L•Y **±**1**6**1**7**5**3**9**6**7**9**4
      I•N•V•E•S•T•I•N•G and M•O•R•E G•U•I•D•A•N•C•E.:::::::

  • @Gaze73
    @Gaze73 2 года назад

    It took me 10 minutes to find a file in c:\downloads. The search went through the entire HDD until it landed on such an obvious folder.

  • @roo79x
    @roo79x 3 года назад +4

    Then why does the search feature in some Linux Distributions (which still uses indexing) work so much better? Like gnome KDE etc

    • @gabrielandy9272
      @gabrielandy9272 3 года назад +1

      probally just better default settings, cause after u tweak the windows indexing its just as good?

  • @12kenbutsuri
    @12kenbutsuri 3 года назад +3

    Use linux maaan

  • @gingersnaps6941
    @gingersnaps6941 3 года назад

    Uh! I didn't know half of this videos content. Thank you for the info!

  • @xDownSetx
    @xDownSetx 3 года назад

    That Rebuild option also affects search in places like Outlook (desktop app.) So if your email search isn't returning results when you know it should, give that a try.