Bill Porter (Red Pine) on Chinese Hermits

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

Комментарии • 25

  • @EsmagaSapos
    @EsmagaSapos 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for interviewing Redpine.

  • @shokankinkela6547
    @shokankinkela6547 Месяц назад +1

    Do you think Mr.Porter would be open to chatting with me about aspirations of becoming a translator? My apologies for reaching out here, but it seemed like the best option. Really appreciate your time and your work.

  • @chrishanna3659
    @chrishanna3659 Месяц назад +2

    Great interview. You asked some really great questions. I came across the tradition of Buddhist/Daoist hermits through Jack Kerouac's The Dharma Bums, which in turn led me to Red Pines translations of sutras and Road to Heaven. It's not a topic that gets discussed often, but when it does, I soak it up.Thank you.

    • @jakewarinnerpodcast
      @jakewarinnerpodcast  Месяц назад

      Thank you! Love this topic, I'll check out that book!

    • @nternalPractice
      @nternalPractice Месяц назад

      You are clueless...these traditions are based on direct practice and direct experience, not intellectual "theory" and dogma.

    • @chrishanna3659
      @chrishanna3659 Месяц назад +2

      @nternalPractice splendid insight! It was so much appreciated. I am usually just trolled in the youtube comments section, but you show the wisdom of a true master.

    • @nternalPractice
      @nternalPractice Месяц назад

      @@chrishanna3659 Thanks but, while I do practice, I am MANY lifetimes away from mastery.

  • @jejehdh
    @jejehdh 2 месяца назад +2

    Excellent interview. I wonder if this tradition could ever become a reality in the US.

    • @jakewarinnerpodcast
      @jakewarinnerpodcast  2 месяца назад

      Thank you! Would be really interesting. Possible one could develop over time. I'd love to see it

    • @nternalPractice
      @nternalPractice Месяц назад +1

      You have no clue whatsoever about the level of discipline and knowledge involved. In West has turned COMPLETLEY outwards and made huge development in the "outer" sciences of Physics, Mathematics, Engineering etc. The Chinese (and Indians) have gone just as far INWARDS. Considering that these inner "sciences" have been under development for more than 3,000 years I believe they have probably gone SIGNIFICANTLY further "inwards" than the West have gone "outwards". As for this tradition becoming a reality in the US, the Western mind is so utterly mesmerized by outer manifestations of power I don't believe it is fundamentally capable.

    • @blackbird5634
      @blackbird5634 Месяц назад

      Traditions of monastic religious austerity come from a need to control population growth. Until the US finds the need to stop adding to itself, till it can't feed its own people, it will continue to grow.

  • @YawnGod
    @YawnGod 5 месяцев назад +1

    The most probable place to find a philosopher king is to find such a hermit.
    How fun.

  • @berndg5018
    @berndg5018 4 месяца назад +1

    Great interview!

  • @نوفاببالعلم
    @نوفاببالعلم Месяц назад

    I am really surprised by someone who goes on like this without referring to references. For example, he did not provide any evidence that Taoism descends from shamanism.

    • @jakewarinnerpodcast
      @jakewarinnerpodcast  Месяц назад +1

      He goes into that in the book, I'm assuming that's why he doesn't give specific references in the interview. Most of my guests don't

  • @blackbird5634
    @blackbird5634 Месяц назад

    Take a look at Tibetan history: They understood their country was small and poor in resources so some members of their community volunteered not to have kids or take mates. Then they lived on leftovers, and isolated themselves in huts, or in some cases monasteries.
    So the tradition of religious monastic life comes from a sensible need to control the population.
    Don't have kids if you can't feed them.
    Of course today the practices have become ''sacred'' which is ridiculous.

    • @gpac8147
      @gpac8147 20 дней назад

      Maybe read the book and become enlightened..

    • @blackbird5634
      @blackbird5634 19 дней назад

      @@gpac8147 I've read his books, I like them.
      Remove the man made concept of ''holy'' and you have ''educated.''
      What I said is that population control is the reason people started celibacy and abstinence. And out of man's ego these practices became religions devoted to self exploration. There is nothing ''sacred'' or ''holy'' about them, or the people who do them.
      The yogi squatting on a dung heap in India is no holier than an Ad Agent on Wall Street.

    • @blackbird5634
      @blackbird5634 19 дней назад

      @@gpac8147 I detail the beginnings of monastic life as a necessary reaction to overpopulation in a poor country, and you tell me I need to be ''enlightened'' by Bill's book? 🤣

    • @gpac8147
      @gpac8147 19 дней назад

      @@blackbird5634 yes you do..or should be ... have you read it , first let's check our positions..

    • @gpac8147
      @gpac8147 19 дней назад

      @@blackbird5634 I'll get back to your monastic life ,beginnings of , error ...later ..

  • @bornatona3954
    @bornatona3954 5 месяцев назад

    Hmmm 🤔🤔🤔