With all due respect to Michael Douglas, he is one of my favourites, I think no one can top Mr Tom Wilkinson as Franklin, another one of my favourites.
I agree. Tom Wilkinson was astounding as Franklin. Michael really has his work cut out.. But as a Brit who has an interest in American history I will watch this..
Michael Douglas was always a great actor. It's crazy to realise he's nearly 80 now when you remember him in classics from the 80s and 90s and how young he always looked.
I met him and his wife, they were staying in a hotel in London, I worked there at the time. Funny story, Catherine (Who by the way is gorgeous in real life as well) ordered a drink with me on the phone line, I took everything down and handed the order to my boss. The drink was a Margarita, which is fucking funny, because, they sent up a pizza. she rang me down and said what the hell is this a joke? I apologized profusely, got the damn drinks order up and got tipped. I remember the tired sigh from her, and apologized for the miscommunication. She knew it was my boss being an idiot. But I give her credit, she did have a sense of humour about it.
Many moons ago, my 11th grade history teacher said that Ben Franklin was a rockstar of his time. Inventor, Publisher, Statesman… also debaucherous party animal, free spirited, and a good friend to many
Indeed. Franklin was also the Wealth Guru of his time. He never earned a million dollars, yet he gave away more than a million dollars to the people of Boston and to the people of Philadelphia. In short, he was a genius.
Absolutely he was and a avid supporter of ending human gas lol. He penned a letter that the greatest calamity of our times is "breaking wind" and urged the Royal Academy of Sciences to focus on stopping it.
Glad they’re making a movie about that topic. How many times I heard Americans say, they saved the French during WW2, which is true! However, without the help of the French , between 1778/1782, America would be a constitutional monarchy right now, like Canada or Australia.
Yeah, though many people think Nolte was terribly miscast as Jefferson in that movie. I found it rather jolting. Love Michael Douglas but I was a little surprised to see that he was cast as Benjamin Franklin.
LOVE Kirk also. He had a great role model growing up. Just like Jeff Bridges did with Lloyd (Sea Hunt) Bridges as role model. Some children of huge stars get overwhelmed by life (like Clark Gable's son and many others) and some work hard and also achieve hugely.
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I’m visiting my aunt’s house and that show was on in the background and I thought it looked like a show I should definitely check out. Looked like it had pretty good production.
A lie told by George III, in his very public court. Franklin sued the King after the war, but the King said it was settled with the peace George agreed too.
The best Franklin imo. It's a shame they didn't go for the archaic American accents (which vaguely resembled English West Country accents) of the HBO John Adams series in this one.
Looks like a piece of crap. It would be way cooler if it was actually good, if they cast someone actually good (and plausible) and told his whole story, rather than this formula bullcrap. They're not even focusing on the right stuff, it's pathetic. It's clearly made for idiots, and by them, as well.
Yeah. It does look over exergerated though. I am a fan of American history. Yeah most of the continental congress was in danger of being killed. But just like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin spent a good deal of time in France. Matter of fact. The play "Hamilton" depicts Jefferson as the one whowas hanging around in france during the revolutionary war. When in fact Benjamin franklin spent a great deal of time in france during the revolutionary war. Jefferson spent time in franch before the war not during the war. They actually said Franklin had a great deal of mistresses in France. In fact one of the reason congress sent Franklin to france as a diplomat was because he was already famous for figuring out that metal can be used as a conductor for electricity. So he was already famouse for the invention of the lightning rod being installed on every tall building in the western world and his history of journalism. Franklins life was the least in jeapordary because he was probably the most famous american politician in the western world during the time.
This looks very good and promising I love anything history I'm in. Benjamin Franklin's response to Elizabeth Willing Powel's question: "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" Franklin “A republic, if you can keep it.”
Funny how doofuses all repeat that one story that's gotten play in the press recently. He said other stuff just like it, on the same exact day. You can always tell someone who DOESN'T know a thing about Benjamin Franklin when THAT'S the one anecdote they trot out. Why don't you just hang a sign around your neck that says "I Watch Alot Of TV". I'll bet you're one of those doofuses always pissing your pants about "the" media, lol. You're clearly owned by it, just letting you know. PS: This ridiculous miniseries looks beyond pathetic, with a totally miscast actor who is nowhere near up to the task.
So, we're all in agreement that Tom Wilkinson's portrayal in John Adams is unbeatable. My question is, who they got to play Adams in this movie since Adams was for a time in France as well? Again, like with Wilkinson, Paul Giamatti slayed as Adams. While we're at it: Stephan Dillane as Thomas Jefferson, David Morse as Washington, and Laura Linney as Abigail Adams. All of them, untouchable, still interested in seeing this movie though.
LOL Well some of these these historic figures like Benjamin Franklin, and Abraham Lincoln and others it's not like we have an actual audio recording of their voices so it's fair game for actors.
lol. Wrong actor to play it, and the script is obviously crap, obviously ripping off "Lincoln" (which in itself was flawed). What a waste of an opportunity, to really tell Franklin's sweeping life story. Hagiography for lower animals. (like Mike Tierney, who obviously is impressed by crap. Get out of the shallow end of the pool, Mike, jesus christ.)
I remember Michael Douglas before he on the big screen he was in the TV show with Carl Malden in THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO. He's had health scares to his personal life but it's great to see him still acting
RIP Tom Wilkinson. What an outstanding Ben Franklin! As much as I love Michael Douglas, I laughed when I saw the thumbnail of him as Franklin, I actually wondered if it was fake!
Wow, you obviously wouldn't know good acting if it was pissing on you, huh? lol. If the script was good, believe me, they'd have someone else playing Benjamin Franklin. That was embarrassing, oh my god. Talk about miscast. Talk about an actor in way over his head.
On my moms side of the family we found out WE are Related to Benjamin Franklin one of the founding fathers, this made me more proud to be a American than ever before!
Hope they don't mess this up... Ben Franklin is one of my all time favorite and important historical figures. His contributions to science, politics and society are profound.
We have a show in John Adams, a musical for Hamilton, and now a show for Ben Franklin, Fingers crossed we one day get a 300-style semi-accurate films for George Washington
I never understand why these supposedly historic movies have 1770's colonists with american accents. They were British, many of them were born in England
48 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were born in the American colonies. However, the accent was MUCH different than than it is now. We don't know exactly what it was, but it certainly wasn't anywhere close to Michael Douglas's 20th century accent.
@@georgebarnhill660 But they wouldn't sound "British" in the way that we think of a British accent today. The British themselves hadn't yet developed the RP accent. Both colonial Americans and the Brits at the time would have sounded different than they do today. My favorite take on it is Abe Woodhull's accent on the TV show TURN.
Napoleon Bonaparte's life was well documented as well, and we all saw what AppleTV greenlit and released last year. Pure, head shaking if beautiful fiction. Maybe this will be a major step up. I love Douglas, so I can hope.
Who was in charge of the casting? Ben Franklin? "Soooo . . . what about a surprisingly physically fit older actor with most of his hair? Do you have anyone like that?"
LOL. I know, right? Can you believe these idiots are acting like this is anything other than a joke? Obviously it's an embarrassing vanity project; or else the script was so bad that every other actor passed on it. He was always a hack actor, he was ok, he was never anything incredible. These doofuses are acting like it's Orson Welles playing him. It certainly wasn't like hearing Paul Giamatti was playing John Adams, or Daniel Day Lewis playing Lincoln.
What a lot of people don’t realise is that Britain was also fighting Spain as well as America and France at the time that America gained its independence . The majority of Americans like to forget that and think that they managed it on their own.
"Let me be frank, Don't start beef with the frank. who hangs with B. Franks giving ladies beef franks!" - Voltaire (ERB - Eastern philosophers vs. Western philosophers)
Oh hell yes! This looks insanely great! Please tell me it will be in theaters and not just on Apple TV. I'm so sick of movies only made for these streaming services.
@@user-rt7vo5fr8e Yeah and they're dumb for it. Many people including myself prefer to watch on a huge screen with other people. It's just more fun that way.
Who needs movie theaters when you have a good home theater set up? No rude people to deal with or phones going off. You can also pause the film whenever you need to grab a snack or hit the bathroom. 🍿
Agreed 10000%. The answer is one of two reasons: 1.) it's yet another Michael Douglas vanity project (he's always been a producer, even before he was an actor, that's what he's best at. Or.....2.) Every other actor passed on it, the script was so bad. (or both)
Lol. Not my favorite uncle, maybe yours. If the script was good, believe me, they'd have someone else playing Benjamin Franklin. They got Michael Douglas because it obviously sucks. It's a movie made for and by imbeciles. (Just so you know).
His intellect, scientific discoveries, and cleverness give Franklin credibility with the French. A foot in the door. His importance as a credibility factor here in America and overseas are major reasons for our success. Remember, he’s part of all the early documents Albany Plan of Union, Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. Consider he’s probably the only American at the time known by Europeans. This might be the most important decision made by our founding fathers.
None of that will be in the series, other than maybe little exposition sentences uttered here and there; they'll be too busy showing him tickling french girls in bed and smoking opium and crap like that. Obviously this miniseries is a coloring book for morons, with a totally miscast actor who's in way over his head. Either a vanity project (I'll bet he produced it), or else every other actor passed on it and Douglas is all they could get.
I’m looking forward to this! Ben Franklin was definitely a complicated guy and bit of a playboy and France wasn’t too keen on going to war with England who they lost to in their last war especially for the colonies that were just at the beginnings of trying to develop into a country.
Although I totally agree with those saying that Douglas was miscast, if he brings draws in more people (especially the younger crowd) to get some American history they would not otherwise have received, I support this movie. The caveat being: IF the movie is historically accurate (at least to a large degree).
Many believe Franklin was an ENTP, like myself, according to Myers Briggs. Viewing him in that light in interesting for me. He was probably generally extremely competent and witty and had a high opinion of himself. He probably used charm to win people to his side and to make allowances for the constant ADD like jumps from one topic to another that can leave people feeling lost without it. From what I’ve read he demonstrated some of the very best and worst of my personality type. He brilliantly innovated and took an aggressive approach to involvement in the highest political aspirations of his day. He apparently also was a bit of a womanizer and took advantage of his ability to grasp various perspectives in order to captivate many women. His ego was probably enormous but so was his talent. Interesting man.
I read that Ben Franklin was so popular in France that a commode chair was found with a picture of is face in the bowl!! Now, is that flattering or what?!!!
@yellowstoneloyal8186 the cinematography is great Vanessa Kirby and Joaquin Phoenix make great performances. But the writing and skirting around a lot of important events make it disappointing if you are a history buff.
I love Michael Douglas and I think this will be a fantastic movie. My issue with a great deal of movies made by Hollywood about the Colonies vs. Britain is the accent. Colonists sounded exactly the same as those that live in Britain and they were British and considered themselves British. Sure there are regional accents/dialects in the UK and those were transferred here, but no one sounded like a modern US Citizen (not even close).
No comparison to Tom Wilkinson’s performance along with that of Paul Giamatti in John Adams. That series should be required in all American high school history ciasses.
I hope this will be treated with the same respect and care the HBO John Adams series was, but sadly, I know that series was made in a different era. This will likely be inaccurate, lame, and gay.
Ohh 100% You can see the downgrade in quality and respect for the character. It's meant to bring it down and lift the next "gender" at the expense of us. Yea I dont think so.
My Uncle Bill has for some years been researching our family history and recently learned of me that we are descendants of good ol' Ben Franklin, eight generations removed though of course. What I took from that is the idea my family aren't complete muggins after all... 🤦🤓 🤛
That may be true, however England didn’t have nuclear weapons aimed at both France and the United States with a King who openly warned them that he would use them if provoked too much. It’s amazing to me that nobody defending Ukraine’s side seems the least bit concerned about that fact.
@@WideTier that’s just bully boy tactics, Russia will never bring about mutually assured destruction. So long as NATO troops don’t get involved, there’s no problem with supplying weapons etc. If the west gives in to bullies then they’ll take a lot more than our lunch.
Cool, michael Douglas playing michael Douglas and don’t forget to add a gay romance and an African to make it less historically accurate its like they need to fill checkbox’s
This seems good! Hopefully, they would release its blu-ray soon; I am not an heir to any railroad fortune to be able to afford every streaming service on the planet! And I am happy that they did not cast a black, asian or arab man for Benjamin Franklin as they did an Indian for Dickens, a few years ago. I am happy that people are returning to factual sanity, slowly and steadily!
The great thing about Benjamin Franklin, he did things his own way. He never let people force him to conform to society and fashion status. he hardly ever wore a powdered wig, and good on him. Also George Washington never wore a powdered wig too. He powdered his hair. Those powdered wigs of the style of the time around the world were stupid 😅😅. Benjamin Franklin a great American hero. I am British, and i have a lot of respect for our American cousins. 😌. I will be watching this TV series
So hyped about this... Michael Douglas best interpretation ever, if it wasn't a series but an actual movie I would feel like it's worth an Oscar. Besides... Benjamin Franklin's story is a heck of a story that really needed to get to the cinema theatres. Many Americans should watch this and remember how Europe has been important in the USA making before the US armies did what they did to end WWII. Our bond is too much important to let it down.
My mind is blown I love Mr Franklin he is one of my heros. Douglas as Franklin is such a crazy and amazing choice. I wish Tom Wilkerson could of been of alive to make a cameo possible as Mr Franklins Father
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With all due respect to Michael Douglas, he is one of my favourites, I think no one can top Mr Tom Wilkinson as Franklin, another one of my favourites.
I agree. Tom Wilkinson was astounding as Franklin. Michael really has his work cut out.. But as a Brit who has an interest in American history I will watch this..
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I 100% agree. And no one can play John Adams as Paul Giamatti did.
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Michael Douglas is always Nick Conklin to me
I am British. Tom Wilkinson was great as Benjamin Franklin as well. Great British actor playing a legendary American hero. Rest in peace 😢.
Hear, hear. From a cousin in the States.
@@CleverGirlAAH thanks mate. 😊. From a Cousin (me) from Britain 😊
Yeah Tom slayed that role. I'm not quite seeing it here with Douglas.
Agreed 100%, after that nobody else could convince me.
WhT film
Michael Douglas was always a great actor. It's crazy to realise he's nearly 80 now when you remember him in classics from the 80s and 90s and how young he always looked.
I remember seeing him in the mid 70s in the TV show Streets of San Francisco in his late 20s.
Yep I remember watching romancing the stone as a very young boy and thinking , man that's a cool mofo.
Based on family history he’s got a good 20 years or more till retirement
hes looked 50 for 50 years
I can't believe he's 80. I love him in Streets of San Francisco
I've worked with Michael Douglas twice...always kind and professional...and always so many stories to tell, it's amazing we got any work done.
seems like a cool guy - what kind of work were you doing?
I met him and his wife, they were staying in a hotel in London, I worked there at the time. Funny story, Catherine (Who by the way is gorgeous in real life as well) ordered a drink with me on the phone line, I took everything down and handed the order to my boss. The drink was a Margarita, which is fucking funny, because, they sent up a pizza. she rang me down and said what the hell is this a joke? I apologized profusely, got the damn drinks order up and got tipped. I remember the tired sigh from her, and apologized for the miscommunication. She knew it was my boss being an idiot. But I give her credit, she did have a sense of humour about it.
Nice way to out the guy who supported you.
looks great
@@strikeforcealpha9343 Your boss thought it was Margherita 😆
Many moons ago, my 11th grade history teacher said that Ben Franklin was a rockstar of his time. Inventor, Publisher, Statesman… also debaucherous party animal, free spirited, and a good friend to many
Indeed. Franklin was also the Wealth Guru of his time. He never earned a million dollars, yet he gave away more than a million dollars to the people of Boston and to the people of Philadelphia. In short, he was a genius.
Absolutely he was and a avid supporter of ending human gas lol. He penned a letter that the greatest calamity of our times is "breaking wind" and urged the Royal Academy of Sciences to focus on stopping it.
I bet those Freemason/Illuminati parties got WILD back in the day.
Franklin stove, lightning rod and bifocals
He prefered sleeping with older ladies, because they knew what they were doing, but liked virgins because STD's lmao. Dude was a GOAT.
I just can’t unsee Franklin in the John adams series
Oh I've seen that, good series.
@@strikeforcealpha9343it was dull but probably accurate
Franklin had an extraordinary life.
Same.
Same here!
It's about time a film was made about this guy.
Maybe Lin-Manuel Miranda could figure out a way to do a musical about Franklin the way he did with Hamilton.
Not a film but a mini series on apple +
@@keithyonick5023He actually had a song about Franklin that he cut, but then released. It was performed by The Decemberists.
@@keithyonick5023That would be terrible.
Not really😂
Glad they’re making a movie about that topic. How many times I heard Americans say, they saved the French during WW2, which is true!
However, without the help of the French , between 1778/1782, America would be a constitutional monarchy right now, like Canada or Australia.
Interesting
Was not expecting Douglas in this role, but it seems to work, like Merchant and Ivory casting Nolte as Jefferson.
Yeah, though many people think Nolte was terribly miscast as Jefferson in that movie. I found it rather jolting. Love Michael Douglas but I was a little surprised to see that he was cast as Benjamin Franklin.
@@MkunderaMichael Douglas is a fine actor, but as Benjamin Franklin? Uh, no.
Except Nolte was terrible in that disaster of a film.
I felt the same way but after watching the trailer, he seemed better as Franklin than I expected. I’ll give it a watch!
Nolte would be AMAZING as Jefferson in this!!!! 🔥
It's great to see him still working, he's the best.
I loved when he played Michael Douglas in Ghost and The Darkness
In the Antman movies, he looks soo much like his dad.
LOVE Kirk also. He had a great role model growing up. Just like Jeff Bridges did with Lloyd (Sea Hunt) Bridges as role model. Some children of huge stars get overwhelmed by life (like Clark Gable's son and many others) and some work hard and also achieve hugely.
@@devakikaren Did you know that both Jeff and Beau did episodes of "Sea Hunt", but not as Mike Nelson's sons.
No, I did not. Thanx for tip. Some of Sea Hunt was filmed in FL at a tourist attraction there. Week-Wachi? Cypress Gardens? I was at both but can't recall wch one. Do you know?@@martykarr7058
Look, if there's no scene of him and an old French dame bathing while playing chess, I'm out.
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HA HA HA.
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“Well, Mr. Adams?” 🤣
Now when you talk about Tom Wilkinson and his portrayal of Benjamin Franklin that is the scene 🎬 I think of and I start laughing 😂.
only yesterday i got sucked down a RUclips rabbit hole and found my self re watching the streets of San Francisco episode one season one...
I’m visiting my aunt’s house and that show was on in the background and I thought it looked like a show I should definitely check out. Looked like it had pretty good production.
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......"This, is a dangerous game"
Ben Franklin: "That's just the sort of game i like."
_GETS SYPHILIS_
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They all had it.....
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A lie told by George III, in his very public court.
Franklin sued the King after the war,
but the King said it was settled with the peace George agreed too.
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Tom Wilkinson as Benjamin Franklin was badass :P
Yes, great. That was 20 years ago.
*15 but yeah, agreed, give someone new a chance@@snakeplisken6242
The best Franklin imo. It's a shame they didn't go for the archaic American accents (which vaguely resembled English West Country accents) of the HBO John Adams series in this one.
@@snakeplisken6242 Well, Benjamin Franklin was born back in 1706 on Milk Street, ohhh yaa.... :P
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This biopic is long overdue. Without Franklin there wouldn't have been an America.
Looks like a piece of crap. It would be way cooler if it was actually good, if they cast someone actually good (and plausible) and told his whole story, rather than this formula bullcrap. They're not even focusing on the right stuff, it's pathetic. It's clearly made for idiots, and by them, as well.
You can’t blame him alone. It’s not all his fault
@@TTM9691 I agree. It looks dorky as hell. But as usual, they're appealing to the lowest common denominator.
Yeah. It does look over exergerated though. I am a fan of American history. Yeah most of the continental congress was in danger of being killed. But just like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin spent a good deal of time in France. Matter of fact. The play "Hamilton" depicts Jefferson as the one whowas hanging around in france during the revolutionary war. When in fact Benjamin franklin spent a great deal of time in france during the revolutionary war. Jefferson spent time in franch before the war not during the war. They actually said Franklin had a great deal of mistresses in France. In fact one of the reason congress sent Franklin to france as a diplomat was because he was already famous for figuring out that metal can be used as a conductor for electricity. So he was already famouse for the invention of the lightning rod being installed on every tall building in the western world and his history of journalism. Franklins life was the least in jeapordary because he was probably the most famous american politician in the western world during the time.
It looks like Sleepy Hollow, for some reason. Like a Benjamin Franklin comic book adaptation, or something.
Glad to see more content about Ben Franklin. He was a fascinating figure.
Potential serial killer too
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Edit: I looked it up. Imo it makes more sense that the bodies were from the doctor that lived there but it’s an interesting idea
This looks very good and promising I love anything history I'm in.
Benjamin Franklin's response to Elizabeth Willing Powel's question: "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?"
Franklin “A republic, if you can keep it.”
And we still have to keep keeping it! Good to look back to the lessons of History now.
Funny how doofuses all repeat that one story that's gotten play in the press recently. He said other stuff just like it, on the same exact day. You can always tell someone who DOESN'T know a thing about Benjamin Franklin when THAT'S the one anecdote they trot out. Why don't you just hang a sign around your neck that says "I Watch Alot Of TV". I'll bet you're one of those doofuses always pissing your pants about "the" media, lol. You're clearly owned by it, just letting you know. PS: This ridiculous miniseries looks beyond pathetic, with a totally miscast actor who is nowhere near up to the task.
I never thought I would live to see one of the founding fathers played by Gay actor Michael Douglas
I'm glad to see he was able to take time away from kissing Michael Bloomberg to be in this film
So, we're all in agreement that Tom Wilkinson's portrayal in John Adams is unbeatable. My question is, who they got to play Adams in this movie since Adams was for a time in France as well? Again, like with Wilkinson, Paul Giamatti slayed as Adams. While we're at it: Stephan Dillane as Thomas Jefferson, David Morse as Washington, and Laura Linney as Abigail Adams. All of them, untouchable, still interested in seeing this movie though.
Born Philadelphian, Stood at Ben's Grave, Prayed an Thanked Him Many Times. Oh an Left a Penny. Bravo Hollywood..
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I'm pretty sure Benjamin doesn't sound like Michael Douglas's voice.
So, what does Franklin sound like when he talks to you?
LOL Well some of these these historic figures like Benjamin Franklin, and Abraham Lincoln and others it's not like we have an actual audio recording of their voices so it's fair game for actors.
And Xerxes wasn't actually 14 feet tall like he was in '300'.
Michael Douglas doesn’t quit ❤
But he does age 😂
HE LIKES ACTING
but he should.
He's cool af.
He probably should, though. That was embarrassing to watch, oof. He was never that great to begin with, but jeez, that was really cringey.
Good job Michael Douglas on choosing a most formidable and RELEVANT topic in our current lives!
You're the best!
lol. Wrong actor to play it, and the script is obviously crap, obviously ripping off "Lincoln" (which in itself was flawed). What a waste of an opportunity, to really tell Franklin's sweeping life story. Hagiography for lower animals. (like Mike Tierney, who obviously is impressed by crap. Get out of the shallow end of the pool, Mike, jesus christ.)
I remember Michael Douglas before he on the big screen he was in the TV show with Carl Malden in THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO. He's had health scares to his personal life but it's great to see him still acting
Way back, long ago, when San Francisco was poop free & vibrant. But, that was long ago. 🙁
Michael Douglass is too skinny to play Ben Franklin. Tom Wilkinson played Ben Franklin better on John Adams.
Wilkinson was Benjamin Franklin. Unfortunately for Douglas I can’t see anyone else in the role.
What a show that was.
RIP Tom Wilkinson. What an outstanding Ben Franklin! As much as I love Michael Douglas, I laughed when I saw the thumbnail of him as Franklin, I actually wondered if it was fake!
Yes but Michael Douglas will be brilliant. Can’t wait
"He is too skinny"...ah what a profoundly interesting take on Michael Douglas's portrayal...😂
Near 80, still brilliantly performing in the movie industry..His Dad is beaming from the Heaven's above. Bravo💥
So great to see historical drama movies are making a comeback
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"Secrets, secrets are no fun. Secrets, secrets hurt someone."
"Wow, Benjamin Franklin, you're kind of a sleaze bag . . ."
She gave great advice... AND IT RHYMED!
Well, I'm sensing a little **electricity** right here. 😉
Didn’t Benjamin Franklin have syphilis…
@@dannyc7227 Yes, but I don’t... My name’s Gordon. 😏
Douglas is a legend. Can't wait to watch this. I'll watch anything with him in it
Wow, Michael Douglas has still got it! Having a young wife must keep him on his toes. 😂👍
54 is young? 😀
@@markmaz56 'Young' is a relative word. 😉
It's younger than 80. 😂@@markmaz56
@@markmaz56 It is when you're pushing 80.
Wow, you obviously wouldn't know good acting if it was pissing on you, huh? lol. If the script was good, believe me, they'd have someone else playing Benjamin Franklin. That was embarrassing, oh my god. Talk about miscast. Talk about an actor in way over his head.
He just sounds too much like Michael Douglas
On my moms side of the family we found out WE are Related to Benjamin Franklin one of the founding fathers, this made me more proud to be a American than ever before!
Well, Franklin was a very active guy. Half of the US and probably one fourth of France have a family connection to him.
Hope they don't mess this up...
Ben Franklin is one of my all time favorite and important historical figures.
His contributions to science, politics and society are profound.
It's Hollywood. They almost always re-write actual history.
@@scottlalexander510 I hear ya. That's what I am expecting...
We have a show in John Adams, a musical for Hamilton, and now a show for Ben Franklin,
Fingers crossed we one day get a 300-style semi-accurate films for George Washington
Douglas' modern American accent on Franklin is hilarious.
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I never understand why these supposedly historic movies have 1770's colonists with american accents. They were British, many of them were born in England
@@georgebarnhill660 because ignorant American audiences would perceive them as "British" and not American
48 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were born in the American colonies. However, the accent was MUCH different than than it is now. We don't know exactly what it was, but it certainly wasn't anywhere close to Michael Douglas's 20th century accent.
@@georgebarnhill660 But they wouldn't sound "British" in the way that we think of a British accent today. The British themselves hadn't yet developed the RP accent. Both colonial Americans and the Brits at the time would have sounded different than they do today. My favorite take on it is Abe Woodhull's accent on the TV show TURN.
Michael Douglas is endlessly watchable.
They better not screw it up. His time in France is well documented. Then I saw the rest of the trailer, sigh.
dun dun. dun! DUN! DUN!! DUNNN!!!!!
Napoleon Bonaparte's life was well documented as well, and we all saw what AppleTV greenlit and released last year. Pure, head shaking if beautiful fiction. Maybe this will be a major step up. I love Douglas, so I can hope.
Mr Douglas living legend❤
Looks good but he's not really acting. I just see Michael douglass in a wig
I'm in.
A Totally miscast is this some kind of joke
100%. Glad I saw this because now I don't have to write it
@@user-ho4un5bn3smichael douglas is a good actor just wait on its release bruh
That's called "acting."
At first I really thought that this had to be an elaborate SNL skit.
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Thank you. Absolutely spot on. What a joke, right? This looks really awful.
Americans are terrible at making period pieces. Sounding so Californian.
@@TTM9691 It will still be funnier than SNL.
@@AB-ez4rm That's true, AB! Ha! In the words of Frank Zappa: that's very, very true! 🤣
Who was in charge of the casting? Ben Franklin? "Soooo . . . what about a surprisingly physically fit older actor with most of his hair? Do you have anyone like that?"
LOL. I know, right? Can you believe these idiots are acting like this is anything other than a joke? Obviously it's an embarrassing vanity project; or else the script was so bad that every other actor passed on it. He was always a hack actor, he was ok, he was never anything incredible. These doofuses are acting like it's Orson Welles playing him. It certainly wasn't like hearing Paul Giamatti was playing John Adams, or Daniel Day Lewis playing Lincoln.
Respect and honor this American patriot and hero...and our Republic.
Republics are a form of democracy, and it's under direct attack by conservatives today.
Oh yeah. Franklin was born for this.
What a lot of people don’t realise is that Britain was also fighting Spain as well as America and France at the time that America gained its independence . The majority of Americans like to forget that and think that they managed it on their own.
Michael Douglas: I am Benjamin Franklin
Tom Wilkinson: Hold my goblet
Exactly! Bravo!
Sadly Tom Wilkinson is no longer among the land of the living
@@BIGJXXXhe would still do a better job than Douglas.
@@BIGJXXX for the purposes of his role in "John Adams" he doesn't have to be. It exists already and is MASTERFUL
@@humbleopulence i think I have that on dvd,I hadn't watched it in a while
Never met Ben franklin but this seems like perfect casting.
Haven't met him either, but have you ever seen Tom Wilkinson play him?
No sir, I have not. I will look in to it now though. Thank you.@@scottcarpenter1108
No sir, I have not. I will look in to it now though. Thank you. @@scottcarpenter1108
No sir, I have not. I will look in to it now though. Thank you.@@scottcarpenter1108
No sir, I have not. I will look in to it now though. Thank you.@@scottcarpenter1108
This is just perfect timing absolutely delightful
Franklin went France to "play" he was a dirty ol man and I applaud him for it.💜🎉
"Let me be frank,
Don't start beef with the frank.
who hangs with B. Franks
giving ladies beef franks!"
- Voltaire (ERB - Eastern philosophers vs. Western philosophers)
Brilliant actor. I’ll watch anything with Michael Douglas. This looks awesome 🙌
LOL 😂😂😂😂 rich
Oh hell yes! This looks insanely great! Please tell me it will be in theaters and not just on Apple TV. I'm so sick of movies only made for these streaming services.
Its a mini series on apple+. Lol. It literaly shows that in the first30 seonds
I think the death of the movie theater is imminent my friend 😒😞
@@user-rt7vo5fr8e Yeah and they're dumb for it. Many people including myself prefer to watch on a huge screen with other people. It's just more fun that way.
Who needs movie theaters when you have a good home theater set up? No rude people to deal with or phones going off. You can also pause the film whenever you need to grab a snack or hit the bathroom. 🍿
Bravo for playing it straight, no affected accents.
Let's gooooooo. Looks good.
I'm having one of those 'why' moments. Like when they cast Edward G. Robinson in The Ten Commandments... why??
Agreed 10000%. The answer is one of two reasons: 1.) it's yet another Michael Douglas vanity project (he's always been a producer, even before he was an actor, that's what he's best at. Or.....2.) Every other actor passed on it, the script was so bad. (or both)
❤this is going to be great! As a Postal Worker, he is my first boss. As Michael Douglas. Perfection!
Michael Douglas never disappoints.
“The USA: it’s all down hill from here”
Everyone onscreen is thoroughly 21st century.
How did you expect them to look? It's the 21st century
Michael Douglas feels like your favorite uncle you only see every once and a while. Dude's usually only getting supporting actor roles.
Lol. Not my favorite uncle, maybe yours. If the script was good, believe me, they'd have someone else playing Benjamin Franklin. They got Michael Douglas because it obviously sucks. It's a movie made for and by imbeciles. (Just so you know).
His intellect, scientific discoveries, and cleverness give Franklin credibility with the French. A foot in the door. His importance as a credibility factor here in America and overseas are major reasons for our success. Remember, he’s part of all the early documents Albany Plan of Union, Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. Consider he’s probably the only American at the time known by Europeans. This might be the most important decision made by our founding fathers.
None of that will be in the series, other than maybe little exposition sentences uttered here and there; they'll be too busy showing him tickling french girls in bed and smoking opium and crap like that. Obviously this miniseries is a coloring book for morons, with a totally miscast actor who's in way over his head. Either a vanity project (I'll bet he produced it), or else every other actor passed on it and Douglas is all they could get.
I’m looking forward to this! Ben Franklin was definitely a complicated guy and bit of a playboy and France wasn’t too keen on going to war with England who they lost to in their last war especially for the colonies that were just at the beginnings of trying to develop into a country.
Well they helped you anyway, and payed a terrible price for it. Only for Americans to mock them as cowards in ww2... class
@@-MaxXxuS-Rubbish
Looks good
Although I totally agree with those saying that Douglas was miscast, if he brings draws in more people (especially the younger crowd) to get some American history they would not otherwise have received, I support this movie. The caveat being: IF the movie is historically accurate (at least to a large degree).
Michael Douglas has come such a very long way, and he's a fantastic actor. He will do good playing Benjamin Franklin
Franklin dreams he looked like this.
Yeah, lol. What a joke, right?
This is exciting
Michael Douglas is awesome. The only thing I've seen him in is Romancing the Stone.
I so see his father in his face. Great actors, both ❤❤
Oh this is gonna be awesome. ❤
Ben Franklin and Michael Douglas two of my favorites
Many believe Franklin was an ENTP, like myself, according to Myers Briggs. Viewing him in that light in interesting for me. He was probably generally extremely competent and witty and had a high opinion of himself. He probably used charm to win people to his side and to make allowances for the constant ADD like jumps from one topic to another that can leave people feeling lost without it. From what I’ve read he demonstrated some of the very best and worst of my personality type. He brilliantly innovated and took an aggressive approach to involvement in the highest political aspirations of his day. He apparently also was a bit of a womanizer and took advantage of his ability to grasp various perspectives in order to captivate many women. His ego was probably enormous but so was his talent. Interesting man.
I read that Ben Franklin was so popular in France that a commode chair was found with a picture of is face in the bowl!! Now, is that flattering or what?!!!
Hope its better than Napoleon.
I've been meaning to watch Napoleon, is it that bad?
@yellowstoneloyal8186 the cinematography is great Vanessa Kirby and Joaquin Phoenix make great performances. But the writing and skirting around a lot of important events make it disappointing if you are a history buff.
@@worldofdoom995 👍
@@yellowstoneloyal8186 It glosses over or speeds past some of his most notable battles. It's jarring at times.
@@worldofdoom995 Do they've a 4-hour DC coming for Napoleon? I hope so.
They didn't cast a gay black woman to play Ben Franklin? I am shocked!
I love Michael Douglas and I think this will be a fantastic movie. My issue with a great deal of movies made by Hollywood about the Colonies vs. Britain is the accent. Colonists sounded exactly the same as those that live in Britain and they were British and considered themselves British. Sure there are regional accents/dialects in the UK and those were transferred here, but no one sounded like a modern US Citizen (not even close).
No comparison to Tom Wilkinson’s performance along with that of Paul Giamatti in John Adams. That series should be required in all American high school history ciasses.
I'm genuinely surprised they didn't cast Idris Elba in the role.
The BBC would have done it for sure.
I hope this will be treated with the same respect and care the HBO John Adams series was, but sadly, I know that series was made in a different era. This will likely be inaccurate, lame, and gay.
Ohh 100% You can see the downgrade in quality and respect for the character. It's meant to bring it down and lift the next "gender" at the expense of us. Yea I dont think so.
Let’s do a series of movies about our founding fathers in the same vein as the marvel cinematic universe. That would be friggin awesome.
yes, movie about George Washington in a spin off that takes place at the same time. With Michael Douglas making a cameo as Benjamin Franklin
My Uncle Bill has for some years been researching our family history and recently learned of me that we are descendants of good ol' Ben Franklin, eight generations removed though of course. What I took from that is the idea my family aren't complete muggins after all... 🤦🤓 🤛
Hi I'm gay actor Michael Douglas
I Hope they don’t add gay stuff or make gender and race swaps. Maybe he is Puerto Rican?
I already saw a black "French" woman in this clip, so you know it'll be woke
It’s sad we live in a time where the founders of our country are vilified. They had more courage and strength than 99 percent of the living today.
He totally fits to such a great character! So interesting to watch an historical movie like this
Never forget when saying don’t help Ukraine, if France hadn’t helped with weapons, money, and supplies USA would have been screwed.
That may be true, however England didn’t have nuclear weapons aimed at both France and the United States with a King who openly warned them that he would use them if provoked too much. It’s amazing to me that nobody defending Ukraine’s side seems the least bit concerned about that fact.
@@WideTier that’s just bully boy tactics, Russia will never bring about mutually assured destruction. So long as NATO troops don’t get involved, there’s no problem with supplying weapons etc. If the west gives in to bullies then they’ll take a lot more than our lunch.
Hahahahah what a stupid comparison
@@zeekot4064 you care to offer an argument or is that all you’ve got?
Can we please get one RUclips video without someone bringing in modern politics and war in the comments? Just one.
Cool, michael Douglas playing michael Douglas and don’t forget to add a gay romance and an African to make it less historically accurate its like they need to fill checkbox’s
You mad bro?
@@ryanlhobson13 you projecting bro 😎
Gay Michael Douglas is a thing. If you want a laugh youtubr it. It's from a podcast you'll appreciate it
Exactly why movies now days are trash.
Yes because they’ve always been SOOOO accurate in the past right??
This seems good! Hopefully, they would release its blu-ray soon; I am not an heir to any railroad fortune to be able to afford every streaming service on the planet!
And I am happy that they did not cast a black, asian or arab man for Benjamin Franklin as they did an Indian for Dickens, a few years ago. I am happy that people are returning to factual sanity, slowly and steadily!
I'm going to go to bed early so I can catch the first showing in the morning.
I like Douglas but this is terrible casting.....
Came here to say this. Having strong aversions to everything about it.
I disagree
I think John Lithgow may have been a better choice.
Wow, Michael Douglas looks painfully bad in this role. He seems to have none of the charisma and humour of Franklin.
I love Kirk Douglas as a professional in his field but nobody can top Howard da Silva's (1776, 1972) portrayal of Benjamin Franklin.
Douglas playing Franklin! Never saw that coming. I thought his father was spartucus 🤭
Gay actor Michael Douglas.
Looks great, I think Michael Douglas was born to play this role. 🌟
The great thing about Benjamin Franklin, he did things his own way. He never let people force him to conform to society and fashion status. he hardly ever wore a powdered wig, and good on him. Also George Washington never wore a powdered wig too. He powdered his hair. Those powdered wigs of the style of the time around the world were stupid 😅😅. Benjamin Franklin a great American hero. I am British, and i have a lot of respect for our American cousins. 😌. I will be watching this TV series
So hyped about this... Michael Douglas best interpretation ever, if it wasn't a series but an actual movie I would feel like it's worth an Oscar. Besides... Benjamin Franklin's story is a heck of a story that really needed to get to the cinema theatres. Many Americans should watch this and remember how Europe has been important in the USA making before the US armies did what they did to end WWII. Our bond is too much important to let it down.
While both humorous serious, I found Howard da Silva's portrayal of Benjamin Franklin in 1776 to be endearing and memorable.
My mind is blown I love Mr Franklin he is one of my heros. Douglas as Franklin is such a crazy and amazing choice. I wish Tom Wilkerson could of been of alive to make a cameo possible as Mr Franklins Father
So happy to see Sandy Kominsky making it as an actor!
Looks good! And Michael Douglas is a fantastic actor.
MIchael Dougllas does a masterful job as Benjamin Franklin, if he had lived another 230 years