Payday 3: Update 4 is Too Little, Too Late.
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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How the Unready Button Saves the Payday Franchise - A Video Essay.
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id rather play war thunder than pain day 3 honestly
@@biz117 War Thunder is League for military kids.
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The sheer disrespect of this ad on a PD3 update video was honestly hilarious. And I’m sorry Kknowley but this game isn’t coming back. 2042 didn’t and it had way more going for it than this.
The fact that helldivers was able to double its server capacity in like two weeks and these guys spent 3 months working on an unready button.
yeah I don't care if they're indie and small. At this point they're better off selling this IP to someone.
Shows how incompetent they are.
@@TheDoof I said that so many times Im tired of saying it and caring for the game. Now I just want to see how big of a joke they can make themselves.
Man I really want to payday 3 be successful but cmon even with the diesel engine they delivered more fixes and content way too faster than this
tbf though, Arrowhead has the backing of SONY
War Thunder sponsoring a Payday 3 update video is a lot funnier than I thought it would be.
I wanna believe in payday ... Buuuuuut-
That game is probably more popular than PAYDAY 3 because the devs know what they were actually doing 😂😕
@@5H4D0W-13 You clearly haven't heard of any of the controversy then, no they don't.
@@maximumrpg3707 you clearly don't make sense 😂😂
@@maximumrpg3707 and you clearly don't see others point of views either before commenting
They promised a medic bag but all they gave us was a first aid kit...
Just as first aid kits only heal you, only medic bags can save you from being downed permanently. Payday 3 needs a medic bag because they got one more down before I quit.
More like a plaster
More like a single bandaid
@@packwolf445 nah you know when parents ‘blow on a boo boo’? it’s THAT
@@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames Sounds to me like you were planning to leave in the first place. You can just go. It's okay.
Cant believe they still messed up the unteady button
Unteady button
unteady button
Unteady button
Unteady button
Unteady button
"we've added a feature that should've been in the game at launch" and thats going to be half of operation medic bag
I think it's all of it
69th like, nice
Can we still hope ? Idk, I guess even no man's sky made an impressive recovery. But this was a passion project from a studio that respected its fans, which payday isn't anymore.
an update like this every week and they would quickly add up.
Sadly at the pace they're going, it'll be one like this every month.
Give it half a decade! Im sure it will be playable in 2027!🤪
@@itsv1p3r its 2024.
in half a decade, it'll be 2029.
@@GunSpyEnthusiast thank you mathematical wizard! what would we do without you & who would like your comments?
@@itsv1p3r online text isnt the place for sarcasm with proper grammar.
Every month? Good god that’s generous…
Damn, Kknowley lost his patience
its hilarious seeing him go from “payday 3 is awesome, guys!” to “oh my god this game is awful” but i dont blame him
@@bootstrap925 I really like the biggest payday enjoyer slowly becoming disillusioned on how much the bag was fumbled. Very fun watch
@@absoultethings4213 Why fun?
@@Spokenword A lot of people were expecting the game to flop, and enjoy hating on those who went in thinking that it could be decent, or even could be great. I saw people complaining about the teaser trailer saying how awful the game was when all they had to go off was a panning shot of the gang on the pier in NYC...
I get it, Overkill has a reputation. We'd just hoped that they'd do more with this chance we gave them by rallying to support Payday 2 again.
If I had to guess, one of the major things hurting them is having to develop for all platforms equally before making updates. I figured that'd bite them, and seeing how that was the cause for their lack of action for the first update, it very likely hasn't changed.
I'm getting some pretty harsh flashbacks to Imperator: Rome, another game from a mid-size Swedish developer that had a disgusting launch. They did nothing for a good long while, released a paid DLC that was recieved with the fury it deserves, then they went quiet and fixed the game over a lengthy period of time, releasing it all in one huge patch they labelled update 2.0, but it came far too late and the game was already dead, so the plug was just pulled shortly after 2.0. I really hope that doesn't happen with Payday 3. I know they're bound to release those 3 DLC heists, since we're a lot of people who bought the gold edition expecting 3 DLC heists within the year, but if they sink the game for it, that would suck majorly. I still think it has huge potential.
Imo imperator is abandoned by the dev but is being carried by the modding community, which I cannot say for payday 3
It would suck, we didn't want this for payday 3, but in the end it would fall on Starbreeze and OVK. Had they done the right call and delayed release for the year it needed, AT LEAST Half year (But clearly it needed another full year), we wouldn't be here today. Payday would've been well-received on launch, it wouldn't be dead, it would have a large playerbase, and any of the other issues remaining could easily be addressed, but it's like they basically have to "finish" the game with these "boring" updates that don't really do much but are basically needed and should have been launched with, so rather than focus on ACTUAL Content, we're stuck waiting on Basics 101 that should've been on launch. With all the complaints about devs releasing unfinished games for the past few years, I'm not sure how they thought this would fly.
@@WildWombats Unfortunately a delay wouldn't have fixed the game. It would've been less buggy, but the bugs aren't the issue, intentional bad design choices are. The dull progression was as intended, so was online only, the terrible UI, the lack of crime net, etc. It's not an unfinished game, it's a bad game. Which is far worse, there's clearly some people who care a lot on the team, the improvements to stealth and the shooting are massive and the new perk system is pretty interesting, they just made some terrible mistakes that completely sabotaged it. Hopefully they'll successfully walk it back before it's too late.
@@plebisMaximus I can't disagree with some of those things, but I do think let's say it was a bad game with intentional bad design choices for example. Well, they STILL lacked basic features that MOST games do launch with. Even if that in itself wasn't the fix, it CERTAINLY Would have put them in a MUCH better position to address these issues as AT LEAST the basics like a kick, ready/unready, voice chat/text chat, etc. would have most likely already been done given another half year to a year. Then, instead of focusing on that nonsense NOW, they could've brought all their focus directly to the actual problems you mentioned. instead, we now have to wait for them to fix what should have been in the game to begin with before they even GET to that point, which is only further fanning the flames.
@@WildWombats I hope you're right, it's a lot more charitable an interpretation of events, and I do agree it's beyond silly we now have to wait for features that have been considered bare minimum for ages now.
Helldivers 2 is my new go to 4 player co-op. Payday 3 and Dying Light 2 were so highly anticipated for me, I waited forever for them and was heavily disappointed. Then Helldivers 2 comes outta nowhere and completely steals our attention. I know there "were" server issues but man is it nice playing a complete game that's not a money grab at launch. I even got the season pass with in game currency. You think Starbreeze would let you buy heists with that shotty in game currency they got??? PFFFFT LOL
It wasnt even really server issues. The servers worked well enough but 500k+ were trying to get into a game designed for 150K max. And still those servers were upgraded in 1-2 weeks to fit 800K, it took payday 3 months to do that
My enjoyment for gaming has been a steep slope since the dissapointment that was Dying Light 2 at launch. It was LITERALLY my most anticipated game of all time since the first game is my #1. But games like Helldivers 2 are giving me a smidgen of hope that games are going to be on the rise, rather than scrape against rock bottom like they have been.
DL2 was huge disappointment but they do fix it slowly. I wish Techland didn't cut E3 and 200 page of cut content.
@@weplo1597 that happened because they sacked the main writer and for whatever reason wanted to get rid of everything he worked on
@@daskollektiv4593 Not onlythe writer but also devs in horrible work conditions. People who made E3 and 2021 build was also out of job because of that too
you know, since trying the payday 3 open beta and realizing i won't be able to run the game whatsoever i've had 0 interest in buying it, but damn if the way overkill keeps fumbling the bag in the most baffling way isn't engrossing.
i'm really sorry you have to experience this, genuinely. i know what loving a game or franchise despite it having to fight investors and profit margins at every turn is like, and when it's something you think is really special it can really get to you. thanks for providing me with these updates, though; if nothing else, this situation is super interesting and i'm really happy to have someone rational & well-spoken who i can hear about it from. at this point i'm pretty comfortable saying i'd watch you basically no matter what you cover (unless it's helldivers 2, if i have to see another helldivers 2 clip montage in my recommended i'll go ballistic).
i hope you're enjoying spreading democracy! i sure am :p
Do I have news for you about the newest vid
Reminder that Operation Health on R6 siege (the thing this whole update is based on) also sounded good on paper but the actual update itself was underwhelming and at the end of the day, the game was was fixed a year or 2 later after Operation Health happened.
Yep, largely because the operation health major fixes were on the backend where they finally had time to clean up a ton of technical debt/major impediments to improving the game. The game was much better for it in the long term, but it absolutely was underwhelming as hell to see the player side list of changes when the patch dropped.
jap, Operation Health is a meme. I'm not sure Overkill knows that...
First off, siege still isn’t fixed. Second off, operation health is overhated. It was actually one of the most fun time periods to play siege. It’s actually the season that got me hooked. Something about the buggy mess that was siege made it all the more engaging to me. Also bandit still had acog😥
War thunder ad in a payday 3 update video is cold as fuck 💀
You guys remember when overkill used “PlayStation certification” as an excuse as to why they couldn’t update the game faster and more often?
Meanwhile, Helldivers 2 pushed out multiple updates/hotfixes in launch week, showing that the excuse is total BS
it was always bullshit and everyone knew it since they abandoned ps3/360.
PD3 Advertisement: "You can now... unready in the lobby!"
CoD Advertisement: "The mini-map.... will display red dots when you shoot unsuppressed weapons!"
You can hear the disappointment in his voice...
we have had 2 bugfixes and 2 major updates..
let me say that again, 4 updates in 6 months..
edit: not saying I want the devs to work overtime every day but this update didn't have much to look forward too considering we went 2+ months without an update. the next update will probably be a big one so looking forward to that. they can take however long they need to make a quality update but I hope it's something to look forward too
Not too bad
I would compare to destiny but Bungie has like 20x the employees
Oh thats actually not that bad. Updates takes time and 2 months between updates is actually really good pacing. The actual problem is just how barren the updates seem to have been.
You'd want the devs to crunch and slave away?
It's a fine amount, the launch state just slows actual content drops
@@knavenformed9436 honestly... Its about 60 ppl at starbreeze, crunch wouldn't be bad
Can we just go back to Payday 2 and pretend this didn't happen?
this game is a big disappointment 💔 payday always had a special place in my heart
u240.4 on its way to fuck up Payday 2 as well:
Sounds like it is gonna be POSTAL 3 all over again.
And maybe update it for consoles?
@@dimsthedimwit600 steam patch notes say they're on 240.5 but idk
The fact that offline mode is being used as a road map marker lol
Payday 3 is such a sad story and also just proves that the devs who worked on overkill's The Walking Dead turned anything they touch into garbage
You can hardly blame the actual developers for TWD.
The studio and leadership rushed that and put arguably impossible deadlines on the project (requiring an entire, ground up rebuild of the game at one point).
TWD was not the devs' fault. Starbreeze dumped all of its money into Valhalla, an engine that is not at all suited for game development. First the devs were forced to work with that thing, then they were told to switch to UE4 last minute. It couldn't have gone any other way.
TWD was not the devs' fault. Starbreeze dumped all of its money into Valhalla, an engine that is not at all suited for game development. First the devs were forced to work with that thing, then they were told to switch to UE4 last minute. It couldn't have gone any other way.
Overkill's TWD was an actually decent game. The melee combat honestly feels like what No More Room In Hell should have been if it wasn't for Source engine jank.
''what u wont regret is downloading warthunder'' this is the funniest sponsor segway ive ever heard
"ragdolls removed"
thats it thats the nail in the coffin this game is done for
I will never understand how game developers are just unable to read the room.
I remember during Battlefield V's life, DICE tried making jokes out of constant community complaints and it ended up being more insulting than anything else.
We are not laughing with you, we are laughing AT you.
i don't know how devs that made payday 2 made this game it's so crazy. Even if the og devs left and new ones worked on it no way they didn't figure out what made payday special in the first place and why players kept playing it even though it's running on a goofy and buggy race game engine...
i held off on buying pd3 waiting for it to improve. man am i glad i made that call
as a long time pd2 fan, it sorrows me heavily to see this game struggle so hard to implement things that shouldve been available at launch
Helldivers showed me that server issues don’t need to take a month even with very little money. I got flashbacks when I saw “server at capacity” but it only lasted like a week
The difference is that Hell Divers 2 saw 40x the amount of players they were projecting to have. PayDay 3 knew they were going to have large numbers but didn't prepare for them
Things are bad when the most overly optimistic "Human" I've ever seen lowers his voice and isn't absolutely amazed
why's human in quotes lmao
@@udontknowme00 Inhumanly optimistic, so until I found out what *it* really is I'll call it human
Is it still always online? Yes? Literally unplayable.
Ah, I was just about to redownload it... nevermind then.
It's still unbelievable how they thought that was a good idea at launch, even after LITERALLY EVERYONE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.
The thing that is making me laugh at this point is that if Starbreeze folds, payday 3 will be unplayable yet payday 2 will be just fine. Payday 3's succes literally depends on if people are willing to keep spending on it.
too little too late!
i just cannot believe a company would leave release features missing from a game and expect people to just take it
PLAION and Starbreeze executives who were behind these decisions should be fired
To be fair, this failure made me realize how many great games are out there. I completely moved on to completely different genre and don’t plan to come back
Damn never thought I'd hear of someone being so burned by one game they stop playing any game in the same genre.
@@jackal8176 that's probably just me getting old XD I moved to simulations games (IŁ-2 to be exact). It's very slow, but also climatic, realistic and I love it.
@@ac4694Good for you man, that basically me after 500 hours after payday 2. Mainly due to burnout for playing so frequently.
Funniest update I ever seen when I read "unready button" on the main features of the update
I've lost faith with Payday 3 and Update 4 is sad to see, I can't get a refund for this game and being stuck with it untill it gets better I wish i can hide it in my library so I don't have to see it.
Really almost preordered, at the last minute decided to just get it on gamepass which was one of the best decisions ive ever made.
you can hide it
@@dripfishron6300 no you cant
@tillburr6799 Yes you can. Right-click on the game in your library - "Manage", "Hide this game".
You can also permanently remove a game from your library by requesting a deletion via Steam Support, though you won't get a refund for it if it's outside the refund window. To do that click on Help, Steam Support. Find the game you wish to delete and select: "I want to permanently remove this game from my account".
@@tillburr6799Steam Library > right-click game in the list on the left > "Manage" > "Hide this game".
Done.
You know they did one thing correct and that is give me time to play OTHER games. Playing this game feels like a chore and I feel like PD: The Heist is more fun then PD3 and that is saying something.
i can’t sit and defend them but like i feel like these ridiculous small updates need to happen before all the other stuff 🤷🏻♂️ should’ve been months ago but i’d rather it now then even later
Not to argue cause I can kinda agree with you, but it's just sad how slowly it progresses. Unless we don't know and the studio just fired 99% of devsor there is just like 3 ppl debugging the game there is no reason for so little feedback from them. In this second option it's even more sad IMO; I personally don't care about PD3, it's just not for me, but starbreeze/overkill basically considering pd3 lost even tho community is STILL willing to give them second chances is just... At this point I feel like hardcore defenders of this game at its current state are people who paid, lets be honest, way too much for preorder super duper edition whatever and didn't classify for refund after it turned out mediocre. In the end it's always been like this with big games; sometimes projects grow to big for their own good and after not delivering you got something like this... Basically a zombie of a game.
This defense only makes sense if people are already playing the game and struggling with these features. But that isn't the case. Payday 3 isn't trying to preserve a playerbase, they're trying to recover one that has abandoned the game, and those players are watching what's happening and deciding whether to trust the developers with their time. An update full of ridiculously small changes, after months of waiting, sends a message to those players. Even if the game itself is objectively better for it, in the longer term, it does more harm than good if it drives people away from the game.
i like to think of it like an army. big flashy updates that significantly change the game are your armor, smaller updates and bugfixes are your infantry. either one can win a fight, sure, but in the grand scheme of things they depend on each other. if all you're releasing is bug fixes, you're not gonna get very far; if all you release is big flashy updates, what ground you do gain will be quickly lost.
I love when Starbreeze announce an update as a big update that everyone should play at that moment, when there really isn't a big update.
Also heard that the unready button was something requested by the BETA TESTERS even a month before launch. Payday 3 being crossplay has lead to these updates being slower as a result.
Jokes aside, I'm amazed that despite being 6 years old RAID:WW2 before update 21 (I say "before update 21 because update 21 was made by community devs and did a lot that I can't write in a simple RUclips comment) looks like it played better than Payday 3 does now.
the unready button was unready
If not for this channel reminding me of the game existence, I completely forgot that this game existed.
Lol same
You're right that this should've been part of a larger update, and Starbreeze likely thinks so as well. I suspect the only reason this patch released now is because whatever grander reworks they have in the pipeline are so far away that they thought it would be better to push literally anything out in the meantime. I'd call it a worrying sign if the game wasn't already absolutely dead.
even with an "unready" button you cant take a lobby hostage if the host can force start. host needs more control over their session; force start, force kick, and even a force abandon mission are par the course. sadly pd3 missed par by a mile.
Its like they never played pd2 or worked on it. This is all stuff they added to pd2 and worked on during its development, why it didnt ship with pd3 is beyond me…
Yea I'm too busy protecting super earth to go back
Welp time to go back to helldivers 2 People 🎉
The issue at its core is that dev studios have gotten far too complacent with releasing games in a half assed, half baked launch state. I honestly think they should have waited at least another year to even consider releasing Payday 3. Hell in regards to the menus and UI alone they could have used Payday 2 as a base and tweaked it to fit 3.
They just should’ve delayed the game
With the strike team announcement and the month of silence, I was kinda expecting for the company to realize that small updates won't revive the game and that they should instead focus on a large update with features that community has been requesting.
However, they instead come up with Operation Medic Bag (which is very welcome in terms of confirming their intentions but at the end of the day is just text), and an update that we're been waiting for more than 1 month that adds so little it's rather insulting. What were they doing?
I have said so many times this week that HELLDIVERS 2 is the first fun co-op experience I've had sense payday 2. Happy I'm not the only one
It is pretty disappointing to see how little is being added with this update, still holding out some hope but like many I don't play much ifany of the game these days and I'm still holding out for an update that's really gonna bring me back in more actively, time will tell when that sortovf update will release but I still enjoy playing the game here and there to get the experience but again like many, spreading democracy in Helldivers has been a nice breath of fresh air from the gaming landscape in general
When shit becomes so bad you get a WarThunder promo to talk about it
This is genuinely the most negative I've ever heard Kknowly be about Payday. Do better Starbreeze, if not for your player base, but for your most positive follower finally loosing hope after months of optimistic speculation. It is genuinely disheartening hearing the reason I bought the silver edition of Payday 3 telling me how screwed up the game state is.
I really want Payday 3 to succeed and be good, but I'm not sure if Payday 3 wants the same
STARBREEZE DEVS: please add the ability to convert officers, literally ZERO people want to play loud, just let me convert cops to my team so i dont have to have a moment of clarity about how trash the game is during a loud heist
Lets be honest. Any talent overkill has/had left by this point or is being massively hindered by management. I can’t imagine they are happy with pd3s rollout so lets just assume that this is the best they can do as sad as that is. At this rate the game will never be worth playing over 2.
this whole situation just deeply saddens me man Ive been waiting and been hyped for PD3 for so long, I played it for a couple hours near launch before I realized how dull it felt just doing challenges to try and level up for better weapons and skills, or weapon challenges to even get attachments, or even attempting stealth in that state of the game. I don’t have a lot of hope that the game will pull through and that hurts man I want it to succeed but it just really doesn’t seem like it will, it looks like it’ll be a couple more months of “trying” before they scrap it and either go broke or make more dlc for pd2 to try and stay afloat. I hope I’m wrong and they turn it around but I’d probably just be lying to myself at that point 😔
They're celebrating updates that should've been a day one patch or at least the first week or month of release...
The thing that really makes me not want to play Payday 3 again is the weirdly enough the perks. I know what they are going for, but it just isn't fun to have to do a certain action, like vaulting, to do your skills for like 20 seconds. I have been playing a lot of Payday 2 again and it's so fun to make unique builds that i KNOW will work when i need them to, like being able to do more damage with pistol that are tied to concealment. Yes there is a gimmick, but that gimmick flows smoothly into other things like dodge build. Now take Payday 3, where you can set up your perks by vaulting, but there comes a lot of times where i either vault nonstop or very rarely. Most of the perks are situational at best and the really good ones are almost necessity and don't require much to get the most out of them. I would just like the perks to stand out on their own and not have to rely entirely on a status effect. Maybe it's just me that has this issue but to me it really rubs me the wrong way that you can't be as creative with your abilities like Payday 2
put 48hours into payday 3 and I have never returned. I got to around level 60 iirc and it was taking far too long and I already played all the heists, I would have gotten the rest of the achievements but I just couldn't bring myself to do so at all. I really do hope they can bring back PD3, and I do hope people will return when they do so, but I think its honestly over at this rate.
putting around 50h in the game while not even being able to max out your skill points for abilities that feel mostly unimpactful is a real charm isnt it
Operation: Play something else and come back in 3 years to see how it's going
Not having an unready button in a 2023 game is outrageous and laughable. If anything more ridiculous happens in the gaming industry Im gonna just quit gaming altogether. Also, for those who says "It's harder than it looks like, You're not a dev so you dont get it", please explain to me why 99% of the games that need an unready button have it, including payday 2, and what made payday 3 so special.
Stuff like that, or the hud not showing your teams equipment are stuff I don't understand why aren't there, it's needed and basic
0:08 i love a double barrel shotgun that shoots 3 times and loads 2 invisible shells
We goin back to payday 2 with this one 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
"Late is only for a little bit, suck is forever."
-Gabe Newell
Listen while all of this might seem, well, like an insult to the community, i've had my couple of experiences with bad companies, and i can tell starbreeze are at least trying, even if the community doesn't believe it
It's more effort than most big studios give
The bar is low but still
theres no point to believe it anymore, they've dug their grave and are now lying in it
@@IKEACherryChair It's still better than nothing, at least they are trying which is better than nothing
damage control comment moment xD
the fundamental game play (like moving and shooting) is awesome, but i think the game devs are getting screwed by corporate. the devs obviously care, but there is only so much they can do
I'd make a comment about Helldivers being the thing to put payday 3 down, but let's be honest; Payday 3 couldn't even make it to 2024. For some reason, Starbreeze thought the best impression for players was a game with less stuff and less stability, with no sign of any support for however many months it took to get its first patch.
Payday 3 didn't need any help killing its playerbase, and to say Helldivers was the reason grossly oversells Starbreeze's competency.
Don't worry it'll make a comeback in like a year when everything is fixed and the game is $5.
As it still stands, easiest way to get me to even consider buying Payday 3 is for the publisher to secure the rights to make Jacket a heister again. Til then, I'm sticking with PD2. (And probs picking up Helldivers, all the homies are playing it now.)
why can't they just add achievements to Steam and make console achievements come in waves once they are confirmed? Even if there may be some discrepancy when Sony or Microsoft decide a specific achievement can't pass, they can just add achievements INTO the game just like they did with PAYDAY 2 and deal with discrepancy on platform basis. Just because Sony and Microsoft have strict and silly systems, doesn't mean your game ought too.
Sony and Microsoft care too much about their trophies tbh, Steam's stance is much better imho
The update has completely reset all my loadouts and skills. Thank you starbreezr
@@finlaytemple1744 now you can go through and grind the game some more :)
Payday 2 currently averages 22,000 players per month, currently Payday 3 averages 300 players per month.
Personally I played all of 3 missions before quitting Payday 3, amd I currently ping pong between Helldivers 2, and Kenshi just to avoid burnout after grinding almost all of the first battlepass. Payday 3 isn't even in the rearview mirror, amd hearing the disappointing launch of Operation Medicbag just further incentives me to stay away and write off Payday 3 as a failure.
I mean at this point....I'm surprised this isn't a DLC
Payday 2 was pretty much nearly perfection, it's so disappointing that 3 is as disappointing as it is. The list of things wrong with it is too long to even detail but it's basically everything honestly. All around worse than 2 in practically every aspect and really just made me want to get back into 2 again.
The fall from grace is quite the view from down here as a gamer watching them screw up head-over-heel trying to rake their customers back to try to get their microtransactions up. It's a shame really when it could have been so much more. Imagine stabbing your community in the back and expecting them to stick around. "You were the chosen one" moment.
This game didn't need a medic bag, it needed a blood sacrifice for Moloch to even have a 0.1% chance of a comeback.
the funny thing is, I was hyped for payday 3 so much that i was gonna preorder the gold edition or whatever it was... the ironic thing is that i had a change fo heart and spent the money on MW3's Vault Edition. Both games don't appeal to its target audience because both were unfinished.
On another note, i think its time some modders made the payday 3 heists using some custom heist mod (i know its possible) for 2. It'll run, and it'll be enjoyable. I think.
I'm still holding on to faith. I'm not currently playing the game, mind you, but I'm still holding out for it to get better.
literally updates the entire engine of the game from directx11 to directx12, "Its nothing more than a small hotfix"
I swear Kknowleys voice is slowly sounding more disappointed and betrayed the longer payday 3 exists for
Game company ceos try not to be greedy windowlickers challenge:IMPOSSIBLE
Cant believe they reset all my builds, now I have to remember what skills I had on loud, stealth, engineer, and explosives builds, I’m not mad about the update, something is better than nothing but I think imma be sticking with darktide a bit longer
It's a sad day when payday 3 is getting less receptive updates than contraband police.
I just really dont understand how Starbreeze can go from their mistakes in payday 2 to making one of the best co-op FPS Heist games ever and then do this
Still haven't bothered to play after it didn't work at launch
Lemme know when they add the Offline mode, I'm probably not gonna pick it up again until that's added
Good video, nice summary of the patch.
Especially the presentation and comparisons of the skill changes.
Helldivers is doing everything this game won’t
Payday 3 skills still feel like crap, way too specific and not impactful enough. I miss weapon specific skills, akimbo and powerful skills much more than i expected. Not having perk decks kinda of takes away a lot of the charm that the characters had, not only were they tied to the lore of the characters and stimulated different types of play but gave a reason to actually buy the dlc packs. Imagine Starbreeze drops a new character that is part of paid dlc and is overpriced, might not even sell more than the already failure that was the sales of syntax error.
I agree that it's not enough but all changes are positive and necessary so I don't get all the negativity.
Idk if it's because I dropped the game and accepted I will wait months before coming back so I'm not as invested but for me it seems like a good update
Damage dealt is damage done, hopefully they'll figure something out but at this point it's truly a failure.
Nahh that war thunder sponsor is a message
I was really hoping payday 3 would be the next, bad at launch, great later on games, but it just seems less and less likely to be the case.
I quit this game when I realized the Talent tree had been downsized by 75%, and armor no longer regenerates. They should have never stripped those fundamental systems from PD2.
As Tom Scott would say....
They've bodged it
They should have just kept it unreleased and worked on it more, I hoped when it released it wouldn’t be a payday 2 start that it would have actual substance and playable but a lot of the systems in the game are just bad and not thought out, the whole matchmaking system sucks compared to PD2, in PD2 you could find all available joinable games with one button, in payday 3 you have to click 3 buttons and can’t see if anyone is even playing the map there’s no search it just sucks. I really do hope they fix their shit and sort out whatever is going on at Starbreeze
Remant 2 update and payday 3 updates came out the same day.
I chose to play Remant 2, was a small balance change but they added some new wepons which is more than what payday 3 did.
I should have saved my money for helldivers 2 istead of payday 3
I feel so fucking stupid
If only I could have known that starbreeze would fuck up again
Techies need more visual language to find them imo. The hud flicker is barely noticable when you have other things to worry about. It changes the game to ignore everything but this small indicator.
After all the horrible balancing and gameplay decisions that went into Payday 2 its obvious Ovk/Starbreeze were always incompetent
You know you f ed up if Knowley is going to play another game after you update payday
"payday 3 blew me away' LMAOOOOOOO
One day I'll get to use the title "Payday 3 Blows" and it'll all come full circle.
As long as Payday 3 doesnt randomly lose all my progress, then Im happy with it. Dont own it yet, getting it soon. I had over 100 million on Payday 2, logged in one day and an error occured.. Lost it all..
I just still dont get the idea of releasing this game with EIGHT heists for a nearly full priced game and somehow deciding youve earned the right to sell paid DLC heists. This game didnt have enough content to begin with, and your fix is to introduce the content this game sorely needs behind an additional pay wall? Do you REALLY think thats the winning business model? Failures man.
"Theres nothing to do in this game! Maybe if I spend MORE money to get the rest of the content it'll be a good game!" Said no one ever.