Farm update plus comments on Meat: A threat to our planet? BBC documentary
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2019
- The floods have subsided, the crops that have been planted are emerging but the big debate in farming circles this week has been reaction to the BBC documentary highlighting meat production methods around the world and how damaging they are to the planet in terms of greenhouses gasses. Is that a problem in the UK too? That's what I discuss in this video.
Well said Harry - I'm a vegetarian myself, but respect others eating meat. Good to see a reasoned view about UK livestock.
Another vegetarian and seconded.
As vegetarians you support this industry anyway
I'm lucky to live near Ludlow Farmshop, and the quality of the grass-fed meat off their own estate is superb and tastes lovely. .. Definitely the way to go; buying British, and as local as possible - Cuts down the mileage traveled, and supports your local economy.
We had a week of it in Ireland on R. T. E. our national television. Families participating on one of the programmes were told avoid the meat section of supermarkets as this was very bad. The small family farm in Ireland is under severe pressure and farmers are been portrayed as the main culprits in global warming . Love the videos. Could we have another motorcycle one?
Something about Harry's way of explaining things that even sheep seem to take an interest
"Is that true or did you hear it on the BBC?" I trust Harry to tell me what's what, I haven't trusted the BBC for years.
The BBC & their propaganda BS, are banned in my home
@Mrdbaker2u Thank you.
@Mrdbaker2u corrected thank you😁
You're lucky to have the BBC - come to the US, pretty much any media here make the BBC look saintly and sane. And I am not talking about the nonsense 'fake news' memes - even facts are sensationalized and presented as if everyone is an idiot.
Sadly true especially their pro left wing bias on politics.
A well balanced and eloquent response. Thank goodness for a voice of reason!
Anyone who believes that a field of grass with animals is bad for the environment needs a reality check.
An understandable sentiment, but using land for livestock that was previously not used for livestock, _can_ be a significant factor in our changing climate...land use change from before human development is a major factor in our world, there's plenty of legitimate science to read on the subject. Not saying we shouldn't be raising animals, not saying it doesn't take some space, and not saying it can't be done responsibly, but it's not INHERENTLY true that animals in a field is "fine". Depending on how many animals, how many fields, and what that field was before it got turned into a field, it can be a pretty significant problem.
M C Well done for pointing out the obvious! So you agree that we can have animals in fields it’s just a matter of balance. Well we’re hardly at epidemic proportions. Of all the land use change we’ve had in the last 500 years, I don’t think the change in livestock is even a fraction of the problem and it certainly doesn’t need factual misrepresentation from the BBC. I assume you agree that the culling of the North American Bison was good for the environment?
Depends what animals.
kel you sound like a right twat. Comparing slavery to carnivores and calling it a tradition. What a fucking melt. Well done.
kel you’re right, me eating meat is a choice, mine not yours. Unless it negatively impacts other people, which I don’t currently believe it does. We absolutely have the capacity to move into the future while farming healthy livestock in an eco friendly manner. Things undoubtedly could be better, but when the argument starts with extreme viewpoints centred on ‘barbaric murder of animals’ and ‘cattle destroying the planet’ I sense there is a lack of perspective.
Harry, I stopped watching the BBC a few years ago. They pushed disinformation about my profession so I assumed they do the same on everyone else's. I find your garage and farm 1000 times more entertaining! Thank you so much.
Though I live in the U.S. this video is of import to me and I found it very informative. A fair few of us are turning to grass feed and forage for meat production. Sad to say not everyone seems to understand the matter.
UK farming is so different to South America where they clear the forest to exploit the thin soil until it's exhausted after just a few years. And the process goes on again. UK farm land is used ever year since 100s years.
Hey harry..live just down the road in oxford just wanted to say I love your channel and posts..very well filmed and narrated..you have a great friendly camera personality that comes across and relates to most in the industry..well done and keep posting
Thank you so much Harry for putting the facts out there about farming, the BBC has had its own biased agenda on various subjects for years, and as a public service paid by the people should have a duty to be unbiased. Looking forward to more of your fantastic farming films🎥👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🚜
Well done Harry someone who can tell the truth about what farming is really like
Not the truth.
David Kemp Care to elaborate David?
@@jamesward7425 I already have if you read my other comment.
www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/17/uk-has-nearly-800-livestock-mega-farms-investigation-reveals
www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/29/revealed-industrial-scale-beef-farming-comes-to-the-uk
www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-07-17/intensive-numbers-of-intensive-farming
@@sharky01dancer
We don't farm like that in South West scotland
@@sweed58 wrong.
North and North west Scotland doesn't. Thats true.
Please see this
www.ciwf.org.uk/factory-farm-map/
I started with the Garage, now I'm lovin' the Farm as well. Do a one off called "Harry's Watches". Keep getting a glimpse but not quite sure.
Thanks Harry ... We're loving the farm updates, very informative... Please keep up your very good work ... Peace Out
you get my like before its even started harry. best youtuber by far
Too right. But you may also enjoy 'Patrick Dickinson'
Too right, even the flock of sheep were hanging on to Harry's every word, just like Harry's audience for Harry's farm. Great explanation of the difference between grass-fed cattle and those raised on feedlots - BBC take note and do some proper research.
I agree that here in the UK we mainly raise pastured beef on land which is not suitable for crops but we do still import around a million tonnes of soy for finishing feed.
Sheep: "Hey guys, we're going to be on Harry's Farm !"
Funny you say that I got the impression the cows didn't want to br filmed.
@@danielmarshall4587 those cows are famous well respected actors in the cow community the expect payment half upfront
Respect to you and RUclips work. I fully agree - farming in Ireland.
Excellent as always - you ought to be a regular on Countryfile ( or Farming as it used to be called !)
This is good educational stuff Sir and you seem like the nice boss that I never had! Thank you.
Any great video. Thanks for being so informative especially for us non farmers. 👍👍👍
I really enjoyed that video Harry, very informative and truthful!!
Well said Harry, I own a food led pub in Guildford and I only use British Beef and Lamb, so much nicer than American or even African beef. Also nice to know that we are helping the planet too. Great video Harry thank you.
Loving your farming videos. A great insight into an extremely important industry.
You mention one aspect of beef (the same going for pork and lamb I guess, to some extent) in relation to price that I've never had explained in a way that seems to hold up.
When I was a lad (50s) our family was far from wealthy, but our Sundays rotated through the three meats. The joints/cuts were huge by comparison to what anybody of middle income would afford these days, and was then served cold and used in cottage/shepherd's pie during the following week.
Chicken at the time was a "luxury". When my parents ran a restaurant in the 60s, a three course meal (that would always have a roast of one of the above three meats as an option) were 6/6 ... whereas roast chicken was 8/6. (I still have a menu from '64.)
OK ... so cheap chicken has come about as a result of battery/intensive farming, etc., I understand.
But the farming of meat herds can't have changed so significantly.
Farmers these days cannot sell beef for sufficient money but, in real cost-of-living terms, it's now way more expensive than it used to be.
So, the question ...
What is the underlying change that has taken beef from a non expensive food item (and one assumes profitable product for farmers) in the 50s, to it now being an expensive food item that's not profitable for farmers?
Ordinary folk ate Danish bacon, N.Z Lamb and probably Australian beef. Of course back then nobody mentioned Country Of Origin did they? clue was in the price.
I'm not sure exactly but I do know that inputs have increased a lot over the years, e.g. feed, bedding.
Would be interested in a walkthrough of your farm yard.
Great content as normal 👍
Great video - and good to see some education around the huge benefits of grassland farming and grass fed beef. Interesting to note that the UK cattle head numbers in those graphs started a major decline in total numbers of animals in the mid 1970s - was that because of the UK joining the Common Market/EU ???
Great video. Please keep it up. It is really interesting to learn about this topic (as most of us are stuck up in cities like robots)
Thanks for this harry 👍👍👍didn’t see programme but useful ammo for all the do gooders we get here even in a remote farming community. Came across one woman apologising to a cow in the field behind us the other day .. what she didn’t realise was the cow is 25 years old and has a fab life. Meanwhile we’ve got three blue bums in our (late) tupping season so far .. only eight more to go .. hope the ram gets a move on want compact lambing next year lol cheers
Remarkable, Harry! Thank you very much for the information. I don´t think much of the CO2-global-warming-theory and I believe you are doing a great job with your farmland and animals. I'm going to start looking for British meat now! All the best!
I’ve learned so much watching this video. Top job
Great vid as always Harry.
It would be brilliant to see you somehow on mainstream telly giving the public an unbiased version of things...obviously this wouldn't be on the BBC!
Look forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Chris
Why wouldn't Harry be called biased?
Maybe Jeremy Clarkson will be able to set the world straight with his program when it comes out.
Perhaps you could put this part out on your Harry's garage YT as well as you've got a bigger audience.
BBC needs exposing badly .rancid organisation
james bentall they’ve been exposed many times. (Jimmy Saville to John Sweeney) but they sit there in all their self importance and high and mighty bullshit and get away with it. The government some how turn a blind eye. It seems no one in parliament will stand up to that cesspit.
Lovely video, informative for a novice like myself. I love farming and do just a bit of home gardening.
Very interesting Harry, I'm loving this channel, a feast for the mind. Totally agree about grass fed cattle. I've reduced the amount of meat I eat over the past couple of years, because of the way it is produced.
A long while back I watched a program on feed lots, the owners advertised grass fed beef. When questioned about not seeing the animals grazing the answer was, they are fed hay and silage which both come from GRASS.
Not quite what the consumer imagines and depicted in advertising..
I seriously think you should be an Ambassador for the UK Farming Community. You’ve made more sense in five minutes to those who don’t know than those who bang on for days to those who do!
I remember when the Farmers brought the country to a standstill during the fuel strikes. A reminder of who holds the reigns is way overdue!
Well done Harry, this is just the sort of stuff the NFU and AHDB should be producing and pushing at the wider media.
Thanks .
Love the intro graphics, very classy
Harry, what's the expectation for completing the winter wheat drilling? Has this past week's drier weather made any difference to the land?
Thanks for this, Harry. Very interesting.
You're a good man Harry. Always a treat to see your work.
these videos are just top notch . p.s. drilling has been terrible here at tetchwick farm too
Harry, listen to the Food Program which aired 2/12/19 - there was an excellent explanation of how methane isn't actually bad for the planet long term, as it breaks down after 12 years, so the only issue with farming animals in terms of the greenhouse gasses is expanding the number of animals, which of course is happening globally, but as you point out, is in decline in the UK. They also had a good discussion regarding the alternative to grassland, which is rewilding or planting trees for additional carbon capture. Whilst you are most probably right about the co2 sequestering in the grass, its only there until the cow eats it, then its either expelled out the other end or ultimately out of a human after we have eaten the cow. But of course it does make the whole process carbon neutral as the co2 from the cow is just coming from the grass that just grew. But I think methane is the big issue with cows, and the only solution to that is to stop more people eating more meat, which ultimately is a developing world issue. But I think having good international protocols on farming is the only thing that would work, this would reduce supply, push up prices, which reduces consumption whilst equally making the meat worth more and thus sustainable grassfed farming would also be economically sustainable. Unfortunately this is unlikely to happen, although if something like the EU bought in such rules its a big enough market that it could have a significant impact. Ultimately the UK beef is too cheap because imported meat is even cheaper, and the premium people will pay is only so much, so logically by removing the grain fed cheap meat would balance out the market, which should also increase the supply of grassfed beef in the medium term as it would be profitable.
Great video. Glad you explained the difference in cattle raising
Great words regarding the BBC coverage of the meat issue, sadly our national broadcaster has many shortcomings these days......
Harry, I completely agree about UK cattle farming. While not on topic, my only issue with the industry is the animal slaughtering. Doesn’t matter if the cow lives in a shed or grazes in a field, the processes and standards are abhorrent.
for a city boy i find Harry’s farm fascinating thanks keep it up 😂😂😂😂
Thanks so much for the update Harry, fascinating to see how it's done in the UK. In Australia there is a definite marketing push to distinguish grass-fed beef as a value added product. The BBC should allow you the right of reply. Your sheep are clearly Oxbridge types, you could tell by their attentive interest in your disquisition on lambing yield.
Love it.
I'm still learning. Thanks Harry.
Thanks for the video Harry!
The UK exports 24,000 tonnes of beef and imports 60,000 tonnes (Source: National Beef Association) which is perhaps why the number of cattle in the UK has fallen since the 70's, and why programs about how other countries farm is somewhat relevant. A lot is imported from Ireland, but getting actual figures and locations for the rest is difficult, the organisations involved don't wish to disclose them as far as I could find.
Interesting. ...
Yes, I noticed he featured two tables. Human population in UK and cattle numbers in the UK. Not kg of beef consumed per person, which is the figure we need to have. Tonnes of imported beef from grain or soya fed animals in USA or Brazil or wherever is harmful to the environment. He was very selective with facts there.
The population has also artificially increased by 7 million within the last two decades and is projected to carry on at such a pace. No one wants to touch that subject though. No, we need to just ignore the unprecedented strain on infrastructure, food and fresh water that importing millions of extra mouths adds and instead all do without things that were once plentiful and normal.
It's up to us the British public to support our farmers and buy their products knowing where the meat comes from.Those cattle and sheep on your farm look very well cared for and have a nice enviorment.Everyone should look up their local farm shops and butchers and support them.Good luck to you.
yes the good old bias at work. I can remember when we used to have chicken as our xmas lunch because it was so expensive, mainly by the way it was reared I think, perhaps beef will go that way. Everyone wants everything so cheap.
What happened the JCB Fastrac that you teased a couple of years ago?
Another very informative video I knew nothing about, thanks Harry.
Fascinating again !!!! Especially about beef in the UK. More please !!!!!
Great video Harry, very informative
Here in North America producing beef really isn't that much different than in the UK. Beef cows are usually grazed where we can't grow crops. In the fall the calves get weaned and go to outdoor feeding facilities called feed lots. In the UK the calves get weaned and are often kept in straw based indoor feeding facilities. Yes, pigs chickens and cattle can be fed soy in their rations. Also in the UK! The soy we feed is soy meal. Soy meal is a rest product out of the soy crushing factories where soy oil is produced. We also feed canola meal out of the canola oil crushing plants. There is nothing bad about feeding rest products out of the food industry to livestock. Livestock farmers keep a lot of byproducts out of the landfill and turn them into quality meat. Consumers should also understand that not all the crops that are grown for human consumption make the human consumption grade. Those crops end up feeding livestock. Other times a farmers crop makes human consumption grade but there is no demand for it or there is demand for it but the cannery doesn't want to pay enough for it. Sometimes it just makes more sense to sell it for livestock feed. Crop growers at least have a plan B with the livestock industry. Crop farming for human consumption would be extremely risky without a livestock industry.
If Harry wasn't so busy making great, informative and interesting videos about his Farm and his collection of motors in his Garage, I'd vote for him to be Minster of Agriculture!!
I'd be interested in your views on the great tree planting auction that's been going on recently.
High point of UK cattle at 3:18 came after 10 years of promotion, supported by government, of our traditional healthy diet ie meat, dairy, eggs. (Fruit and veg having their place too oc). Since then we've been turned 180deg, scared off saturated fat, which is the fat we've always mainly eaten from animals and the fat we produce internally from any excess glucose. (Scared off cholesterol too which is so important to us our bodies create loads of it daily). And we've been pushed onto the highly processed polyunsaturates that actually give us our modern metabolic diseases.
It's a wonder how people are living longer isn't it?
@@VanderlyndenJengold In the mid Victorian era if someone reached 5 years old (turburculosis etc) they lived as long as us. It's a big if and without it their average longevity was shorter. However if they escaped bacterial problems in early childhood they had none of our metabolic diseases - cancer, heart etc. The old were fit and healthy, unlike us. Medical industry can fix physical trauma but can't cure chronic metabolic diseases which come from a lifetime of eating high processed PUFAs - ie cooking oils and in most processed foods.
I agree John,however you should have included exercise as well.We all live longer ,but only about a year extra is healthy living ,the other 15 or so is NHS sponsered
@@davidedge2189 If you mean walking, doing manual tasks, they did much more than us in the past, and for their benefit. Us moderns overdoing it at the gym and long distance running/cycling get many modern problems that are not discussed.
Don't forget that we were nudged onto exclusively eating muscle meat by corporations, we stopped eating nose to tail and now those same corporations want to tell us it isn't sustainable - and low and behold, their solution isn't to revert back to nose to tail but it is to sell us their own super-processed faux-meat (vegetables and assorted chemicals). What a coincidence!
I hear that cover crops are great for reducing flooding because they help protect the soil and aid rain penetration.
By golly Harry those in calf cows look bloody marvellous , I would be very happy if they were mine .
Love your farm videos they bring back happy memories on the farm.
Another fine vlog Harry, magic from the farm as per the garage. Much better than viewing beeb bias too 👍
IT'S THE BBC. It use to be a RELIABLE channel. I don't bother with it anymore. However it's people like you that put it straight. Thank heavens.
An Aussie TV Exec once told me. TV is drama. Whether its news, current affairs, documentaries or soaps, its drama, or it is not TV.
A bit like politics.
Great to have the balance of Harry telling it how it is. ... No drama.
A quick roundup of Harry's farm. No pun intended.
Well said Harry👍
Thank you for sharing your honest passion. True English Gentleman.
Great words Harry.
Very well said Harry.
Well said Harry...
Very well said Harry
Very well said Harry hope loads of people see this video 👍
So you can apply pre emergent spray, post emergent? It must therefore be a selective weedkiller.
It’s time to scrap the license fee.
what and have another channel full of c;;p adverts !!
r l it’s better than having a channel full of crap programs. Make it a subscription channel asap.
@@philt5782 No way, go off and subscribe, but I want the BBC to be brought back to what it stood for and stopped being lead by overpaid and often, incompetent contractors with ridiculous tick boxes of compliance.
Grass fed is the better mix of saturates in it as well.
Had Pipers farm...They are pretty good.
Currently get organic grass fed from a local person. Amazing.
Excellent video Harry
Fair play Harry. well said
From reading the comments it’s so nice to see people are actually realising the BBC are no longer the corporation it once was, it really needs to be taken down now, I’ve cancelled my licence and just use streamed tv now but the letters I get, threatening me for not having a licence is just desperate.
Very well said
I can listen to this gentleman all day! I want to see a Harry's kitchen video now!
Been waiting 4 a new video..glad to see the water has subsided
Well said Harry!
Excellent video Harry, copied across to the sender of the reply to my complaint to the BBC.
Well said!
Good points, well made. Unfortunately reasoned, nuanced arguments seem to have gone out of fashion in favour of "shocking" sound bites and over-simplification.
Well said Harry
*The BBC ought to Broadcast this Harry as a reply.*
Thanks Harry and cannot agree more with your views. Sheep are the best mowers and fertilisers we always keep some for just that
Would trees be a viable use of land that can't be drilled for crops? Might it help with the flooding too?
Non farmer question. Can you do a vlog of your thoughts on the market manipulation between how the government subsidies and supply chain damages the farmers
Great information Harry thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺🚜
Great informational segment in the beginning. The best thing you can do to reduce your carbon footprint is to buy locally. Whether that is vegetables, fruit, fish or meat.
Ps since I have been watching you I have learnt so much..... Thank You.
I am English, I moved to Uruguay 15 years ago. Beef production is the biggest industry here, population of 3 million people, 24 million cows. All the cows are grass fed .... ALL. Meat is expensive in this country but at least it's good quality.
They eat grass and drink rain water. I have seen them quite literally in the field and swum in the rain water lagoons where they get their water.
Thanks for making the point about the grass. To maintain grassland you need a lawn mover. They are called cows.
Great video Harry , we need to get this heard more widely across the nation
Harry - you surprised that the Brussels broadcasting corporation would produce anything but a biased report - time they lost public funding
Loving the channels - actually learning so much keep it up
Great to see another 'Harry' video, only complaint, to short and not often enough. :)
A reasoned point, it's a pity the majority of people fail to educate themselves about what they eat. Good food grown in an environmentally sound way.