“Don't worry about... what, like Lucifer didn't worry? Or Michael, or Lilith, or Alistair, or Azazel didn't worry? Am I the only game piece on the board who doesn't underestimate those denim-wrapped nightmares?” I love this and Crowley this is why he’s is lasting longer then most characters. He’s actually smart and strategic about his plans and doesn’t ever underestimate others or get blinded by them. Crowley is honestly the best!!!
Yeah, and (SPOILERS)... . The moment Crowley was prideful, he marked his downfall, when the team was sending Lucifer back to Hell and Crowley messed with the spell to keep Lucifer around and torture him, and then Lucifer eventually escaped and killed him (sort of)
6:40 I agree with Nathan. I actually respect that about Crowley. He knows what the Winchesters are capable so he is actually afraid of them and doesn’t underestimate them. Usually the main reason why a villain fails is because they underestimate their enemy, so it’s good to see a villain that isn’t so cocky and knows what the hero(es) is/are capable of
I completely agree! I always found it funny to be a 2000 something year old god and these dudes just show up and you're beheaded. They deserve more respect.
noooo don't be so hard on cas man he was literally willing to stoop to working with crowley just so dean wouldn't have to get involved and ruin his 'normal' life :'// like cas couldn't have talked to him about it BECAUSE he knew dean would drop everything to help yk
"the stench of that Impala's all over your overcoat, Angel" the metaphor here being that _Dean_ /the Winchesters are the "other woman" After all Cas & Crowley are "partners" but Cas keeps putting the Winchesters first
@@helenwood8482 that is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Cas is a cosmic being, he’s not human and not related to Dean in any way. Sam is Dean’s biological brother and a human, it is very much different from an incest ship. Leave the twins out of it, it has nothing to do with whether he ships two characters together. He’s his own person, he can see/ ship what he likes. Nothing wrong with it.
@@helenwood8482 that is literally so far from the truth it’s laughable. destiel is in NO way the same as wincest and it’s genuinely hike a homophobic that you think that. just say that you can’t fathom two men in a relationship and leave.
@@Brianh-rz4bu remember too, there’s no phones to scroll through, no books to read, no chairs to sit to relax. Were there even walls to lean against? Plus, I highly doubt that talking with your line mates is allowed.
I think I would choose Crowley's hell than physical torture. Hell before crowley is basically slow physical and mental torture every single day, that you'll remember. At least crowley is basically waiting. I don't think human souls get exhausted by just standing and waiting.
@@KlaSiKo4 OMG yes, give me that over eternally being skinned alive, cut apart, stretched with giant meat hooks from the tendons, poured on with hot lava, burned alive and any diabolical method anytime anyday. Dean survived 30 years in that type of hellish environment where others would have broke down in the manner of a day perhaps. If you tell him to stand in a line for all eternity, he probably would have gladly done it without breaking the first mandatory of the 66 seals (A righteous man sheds blood in hell) that freed Lucifer from his cage.
@@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer yeh Dean can just wait in line for eternity. But the fact that he can't handle the torture in hell says a lot. Imagine what Sam went through when he went in the cage with Lucifer and Michael.
And yet, each time Cas told him he couldn't be there all the time to help Dean on his hunts because he was fighting said Civil War, Dean pretended like he didn't hear him. Not really feeling the love right now.
For the most part, I really find myself agreeing with Cas. They fought with everything they had to stop the Apocalypse, and now Raphael wants to restart it. They worked with Crowley to stop the Apocalypse the first time around, because basically everything is worth stopping the Apocalypse. I understand why Sam and Dean are very hurt and feel betrayed because Cas kept this from them and lied to them again and again. I understand why they might be scared, since this is very out of their hands. They have every right to be angry. But should Cas have told them? As a friend, hell yes. But as someone attempting to stop the Apocalypse? Well, that depends on what he thinks needs to be done, and how he thinks his friends will react to that, whether they will help or hinder him. Losing their friendship might be tough, but at least they will be alive with the rest of humanity if Cas is right in what he thinks needs to be done. And so far, I don't see any other reasonable suggestions on what to do.
That "son of a bitch" when dean got his confirmation always kills me omg. The hurt in his voice is just too much for me omg, he finally trusted someone and cas betrayed him. Also i love Davion becoming more and more of a heller by the episode. (Heller=destiel shipper if you dont know)
Am I the only one that understands Cass? If he didn't do that shit then Lucifer and Michael would already be freed and the apocalypse would have already come and gone. Like...the fuck? Who else wouldn't make that kind of choice to ensure the safety of EVERYBODY ON EARTH? It's especially funny since Dean and Sam pull this kind of shit on an annual basis.
I'd say this episode painted Cas as very human. Conflicted, doubted. The ending even showcases that as no different than any other religious human begging for a sign from God.
"Free will's an illusion, Dean." - Michael ("The Song Remains the Same" 5x13) I believe what Michael said to Dean in that episode is true. For instance, look at Castiel. He was a soldier who obeyed and followed the rules, then suddenly he started being a free thinker and having a mind of his own. As much as it seems like he suddenly switched, especially after being around the Winchesters, what if that was the plan along to have him break free so he can take charge and lead the flock? It's really something to think about. Anyway, in regard to this episode, powerful. We got to see what Castiel was up to over the past year and what he's thinking and feeling. But I have to say, my favorite moment has to be when he repeated what Bobby said. He went all this time lying to them, especially to Dean who was being loyal to a fault, and he slips up without even thinking. Also, this is another episode showing that "Dean is a bad friend" narrative is false. He may get snarky with Castiel, like he does with most people, but he had Castiel's back, felt bad about lying to him, and went against his instincts. That doesn't sound like a bad friend to me.
Well it doesn’t erased what the other Angel stated which was how they constantly called Cas to clean up their mess while he’s busy doing other things. Heaven house the souls of trillions of souls over centuries of humans being around. Ralph also wants to restart the apocalypse which the Winchesters aren’t as worried about since it doesn’t really affect them now that Mike and Luci can’t take over their bodies. Have they tried helping Cas with his mission without Cas asking them? Heck, they even treated Bobby like crap multiple times as well such as when his soul was taken yet they constantly asked Bobby to help, not thank him, was ungrateful, and then got put in place by Bobby after he finally went off on them.
Dean felt bad about lying to Cas when he thought Cas had done nothing wrong (and he STILL lied, despite feeling bad) The MOMENT Cas stopped obeying him/made his own decisions without consulting him, Dean turned on him, _refuses_ to let Cas explain his side/reasoning *and* threatened to kill him Cas hasn't done _anything_ to warrant this behavior The past 3 episodes _alone_ Cas Left an important mission to send Sam & Dean to the past (they could have waited a day or w/e) Left his war AGAIN to help defeat Eve Protected them from Crowley's goons both in secret AND in front of them + never raised a hand against them even when they trapped him in holy fire Dean is absolutely a terrible friend & in the wrong
@@audreyii6750 "cas hasn't done anything to warrant this behaviour" !!?? He is working with Crowley and trying to open purgatory that's enough for dean to treat cas like this and tbh I think cas wanted eve too, you know to get information about purgatory. Winchesters do treat cas horrible sometimes but in this episode, I can understand deans behaviour, Cas kinda betrayed him.
@@mrkmoney1234 You mean the same angel that tried to kill Castiel later on in that same episode? And what was going on here on Earth was just as important as what was going on in Heaven. There's no either or here. And unlike Castiel, Sam and Dean are human, there's only so much they can do. How are Sam and Dean supposed to help if they don't get asked for their help? They're not mind readers and if they can ask for help, then so can Castiel and Bobby, which is what Dean told Bobby before. Matter of fact, when Bobby got his soul taken, Sam and Dean went overseas, knowing that Dean is afraid of flying, just to get Crowley's bones, so that Bobby can get his soul back. And if Castiel and Bobby felt like they were unappreciated, treated badly, and tired of Sam and Dean relying on them, then I'm sure they wouldn't do anything for them anymore, especially Bobby. But since they don't do what they do for them just to get a pat on the back, they continue to be there for Sam and Dean because they know they would do the same for them.
@@audreyii6750 Go back and watch this episode. Castiel also had guilt over lying to Dean and spying on him, but STILL did it anyway. So, I don't get why you're mad at Dean for doing that when Castiel did the same thing. And Dean didn't turn on him, he wanted to know the truth and Castiel was allowed to explain himself. Dean practically begged him not to do what he was doing because he knows how stuff like this ends up going. Dean threatened to kill Castiel? No, he didn't. He said he would do what he has to do to stop him. That doesn't necessarily mean kill him. Why would they have waited a day or so to get the Phoenix Ash so they could kill Eve and then potentially risking something worse happening? You saw what she did by the time they got there, so I don't think holding off on going to her would've been a good idea. And like I told the other commenter in this thread, what was going on here on Earth, I don't know why Eve turning people into Jefferson Starships is being treated as no big deal, was equally as important as what was going on in Heaven and Castiel is the only one amongst his human friends who has powers and abilities that they don't have. Anyway, if Dean is a terrible friend and in the wrong for acting the way he's acting, then the same could be said about Castiel. Let's take off the "Castiel is an innocent angel who does nothing wrong" goggles and realize that he may have good intentions, but he's going about it the wrong way. Both things could be true.
I'm surprised all 3 of you have turned against Cas. He's literally done nothing wrong, rather, he's basically the only thing standing between humanity & the apocaplyse 2: Electric Boogaloo
Cas asking for a sign he got three Dean, Sam and Bobby. They were there for him and telling him working with Crowley was bad. Oh and yes to reacting to Charmed- the original! Not the remake.
22:53, Earth doesn’t suck Davion.. it’s the people on earth who suck.. Earth is absolutely beautiful and amazing.. if you look at pictures of what earth looked like around the world, before humans messed it up, you’ll see that this world that God created for us is absolutely beautiful.. ☺️💗🙏🏻✝️🌎
they are forgeting that they were also on cass side when Rachel tried to cass, the only person kept saying cass is lying is the skinny dude on the left
So I just subbed, watching thru from like 1x08? So I’m very pleased to see how far you’ve gotten. Your reactions can be wiiiiild sometimes. Love your guys dynamic and can tell you are great friends. I love to see it! Keep up these bangers. Crowley is legit one of my favorite characters on this show. Mark Sheppard is just so enigmatic as that character. But he always throws himself into everything he does, work wise. I ain’t gonna lie, I haven’t finished the series, and have been watching real time since S1 of SPN. I’ve gotten to season 12 and fell out of it. Just life shit you know? I’ve managed to still evade spoilers and literally have no idea what’s going on in the show. 🔥🔥👏🏻💜
So I got back on my Veronica Mars kick and just wanted to mention that show to you guys for a reaction. Nathan would get pissed off at the choices made, Davion would love the characters and Cameron would love the mysteries. It’s got great writing and interesting characters and worldbuilding. It also has an interesting history. The original three season (which are the only ones of the series I saw) was on UPN (Season 1 & 2) and CW (Season 3). It got cancelled and ten years later got a movie, then got a revival on Hulu.
"I was there, where were you" is such a blatant lie Dean has spent this whole season being mad at Cas for not being at his beck & call AND not taking the Civil War seriously Dean has been prioritizing _his_ problems all season, even when Cas would tell him he was needed else where
Guys … *Guys* … _GUYS_ I just found out that Everything Everywhere All at Once is coming back to the theaters! It starts tomorrow (July 29th) and it’s not going to be at all theaters. In my area there’s only one or two showings each day. I don’t know how long it will be out for but it’s definitely a movie that should be watched on the big screen. Also, as an FYI be careful because there’s some sequences that could be an issue if you have photosensitivity issues.
One of my favorite episodes! I love Castiel telling us the story. Cass is right....free will is what is killing us all. Think about what is happening to us now. Great discussion. 👵❤☮
i mean dean and sam had a lot going on and when cas was busy fighting his war, they weren't there to help him. its conflicting to me bc when dean says something it goes, but he never listens :(
He literally barely lets Cas get a word in, just doubled down that he's right & Cas is wrong and wont even _explain_ himself Literally just asks Cas to trust him, blindly trust that Dean is right, with the apocaplyse & heaven riding on the balance
@@audreyii6750right. Like you would think Dean would be more concerned about another archangel trying to start the end of the world considering it took him and his brother two years (s4&5) to prevent it the first time! L move.
i looove this episode so much. it makes cas very complex. also it's perfect from a dean/castiel perspective. i think this is the first ep that really soldifies it as a romance rather than a purely platonic relationship. the pining and yearning between them in this one is insane. everything cas does, he does for dean. dean's devotion for him is so intense. and then they fully breakup!!!
@@frankjuarez3137 jensen literally never said that after confession, the most he said was during M&G where he said deans feelings are up for interpretation and that he doesn't want to put dean in a box
Oh name dropping charmed??? I can’t wait till y’all get to it like it ain’t rlly like supernatural but it’s rlly good and I binge it like 4 times. This episode we definitely got to see cass struggling with moral and just questioning what he things he’s suppose to do.
Freedom is a deep convo, we have freedom here in the US compared to many countries out there; many countries would make you pay a fee or even jail you for saying things. You have the freedom to not live in the society construct by going to go live away from society if you want to.
Dean's hypocrisy in this episode is astounding tbh. "Tell me you aren't working with Crowley" Oh, like _you_ worked with Crowley back in s5, Dean? Like you *and* Sam worked _FOR_ Crowley earlier this very season??
One of my favourite episodes. We finnaly have seen Cass perspective and we've learned a lot of about the lore. About Castiel decisions: In my opinion working with Crowley was the only option to prevent the second apocalypse and Castiel did what he had to. He should have told that to Winchesters, but I understand why he didn't. Dean's perspective is close minded. We are having ending of 4th season all over again. Dean don't even want to hear Castiel as he did with Sam. He just assumes he is 100% right and thats it. I really feel on Cass. The weight on his shoulders and this lack of understanding from best friends...
The, I don't even think he needed to tell Sam & Dean They aren't his boss, or his keepers. This is a Heaven issue, something _far beyond_ the scope of two 30yo men. They can't fight in a Heavenly war, they can't help Cas legit doesn't owe them anything, they're not a part of this side of Cas' life
I think its obvious that Cass and Crowley are the protaganist this season and Sam and Dean are just getting in the way of them and destroying the real antagonist Raphael. It reminds me of Star Wars and how it follows the two least significant to the story, C-3PO and R2D2, as a reference to Kurosawas Hidden Fortress, which I still need to see.
"I've taken some pretty big fish" like, _have you_ Dean? From s4-s6 Sam, Dean & Bobby *combined* have killed _one_ angel (Zachariah) Every other time, _Cas_ has gotten them out of angel trouble. Even with Lucifer! _Cas_ sacrificed himself to send Michael away, giving Dean time to get beat up by Lucifer until Sam took control with the power of love So, how _is_ Dean supposed to stop Castiel, the only reason he's even made it this far?
season 1-5 of supernatural......are the best, one of the few times i agree with davion and cameron. Also theologically.....no there is no individual heaven. Now there may be levels to heaven depending on how in communion you were with god before you died but there is one objective heaven that everyone will enjoy because its not your physical emotions or body experiencing the happiness its your soul and only god knows what will truly satisfy the a soul that he created (spoiler alert.....it's being in communion with god)
I genuinely don't think he thought of it as spying The episode starts with him telling us/God how he has observed the world throughout his years (the evolution from sea to land, the tower of Babel, etc) A big part of being an eternal celestial being seems to be just watching over things I think that's why he didn't notice anything wrong with repeating the "superman going darkside" line, from his pov there's no difference between observing humanity & manifesting among them
@@audreyii6750 yup, but that shows how inhuman he is and I don’t mean that in a negative way. Castiel is literally not a human and because of that, doesn’t realize when he’s passing boundaries.
Crowley being king of hell gives him connections/control over hell/rule over demons But he's no stronger than the average demon. If he pissed Cas off Cas could absolutely smite him without breaking a sweat
I’ve been waiting for y’all to see this episode for so long. Season 6 may have been a little eh, but this episode has got to be one of my top favorites from the entire show.
Okay, but honestly though I would rather be stuck on the rack than be stuck in a neverending line that leads to nowhere. Crowley had it right. I mean, have you ever been to the DMV? That shit is super hell.
“Don't worry about... what, like Lucifer didn't worry? Or Michael, or Lilith, or Alistair, or Azazel didn't worry? Am I the only game piece on the board who doesn't underestimate those denim-wrapped nightmares?”
I love this and Crowley this is why he’s is lasting longer then most characters. He’s actually smart and strategic about his plans and doesn’t ever underestimate others or get blinded by them. Crowley is honestly the best!!!
Yeah, and (SPOILERS)...
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The moment Crowley was prideful, he marked his downfall, when the team was sending Lucifer back to Hell and Crowley messed with the spell to keep Lucifer around and torture him, and then Lucifer eventually escaped and killed him (sort of)
Cas: “Give me a sign.”
Sam: 🛑
Bobby: 🛑
Dean: 🛑
help- this is so funny lmao
6:40 I agree with Nathan. I actually respect that about Crowley. He knows what the Winchesters are capable so he is actually afraid of them and doesn’t underestimate them. Usually the main reason why a villain fails is because they underestimate their enemy, so it’s good to see a villain that isn’t so cocky and knows what the hero(es) is/are capable of
I completely agree! I always found it funny to be a 2000 something year old god and these dudes just show up and you're beheaded. They deserve more respect.
One of the best/craziest lines from this episode is “freedom is a length of rope, God wants you to hang yourself with it..”
noooo don't be so hard on cas man he was literally willing to stoop to working with crowley just so dean wouldn't have to get involved and ruin his 'normal' life :'// like cas couldn't have talked to him about it BECAUSE he knew dean would drop everything to help yk
"the stench of that Impala's all over your overcoat, Angel" the metaphor here being that _Dean_ /the Winchesters are the "other woman"
After all Cas & Crowley are "partners" but Cas keeps putting the Winchesters first
watching davion’s slow conversion into a full on destiel shipper is the highlight of my life
I find it depressing that a man with a twin sexualises a fraternal relationship. Destiel is just another form of Wincest.
@@helenwood8482 its really not that deep
@@helenwood8482 that is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Cas is a cosmic being, he’s not human and not related to Dean in any way. Sam is Dean’s biological brother and a human, it is very much different from an incest ship. Leave the twins out of it, it has nothing to do with whether he ships two characters together. He’s his own person, he can see/ ship what he likes. Nothing wrong with it.
Destiel was the most annoying thing about the fandom for me not because they shipped it but they were pushing it and threatening the actors
@@helenwood8482 that is literally so far from the truth it’s laughable. destiel is in NO way the same as wincest and it’s genuinely hike a homophobic that you think that. just say that you can’t fathom two men in a relationship and leave.
Crowley’s version of hell is horrifying. Way worse than the physical torture.
Nah ong just imagine waiting an ETERNITY to get to the front of the line only to be sent to the very back when you reach the front
@@Brianh-rz4bu remember too, there’s no phones to scroll through, no books to read, no chairs to sit to relax. Were there even walls to lean against? Plus, I highly doubt that talking with your line mates is allowed.
I think I would choose Crowley's hell than physical torture. Hell before crowley is basically slow physical and mental torture every single day, that you'll remember. At least crowley is basically waiting. I don't think human souls get exhausted by just standing and waiting.
@@KlaSiKo4 OMG yes, give me that over eternally being skinned alive, cut apart, stretched with giant meat hooks from the tendons, poured on with hot lava, burned alive and any diabolical method anytime anyday. Dean survived 30 years in that type of hellish environment where others would have broke down in the manner of a day perhaps. If you tell him to stand in a line for all eternity, he probably would have gladly done it without breaking the first mandatory of the 66 seals (A righteous man sheds blood in hell) that freed Lucifer from his cage.
@@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer yeh Dean can just wait in line for eternity. But the fact that he can't handle the torture in hell says a lot. Imagine what Sam went through when he went in the cage with Lucifer and Michael.
"You know who spies on people? Spies!"
I laughed so hard on that
Castiel using his abilities at full power is just awesome to see.
Denim wrapped nightmares is such a good description for the Winchester brothers.
15:27 despite being retired at the time Dean still would’ve helped Cas. Love that!
Because they were alllies.
And yet, each time Cas told him he couldn't be there all the time to help Dean on his hunts because he was fighting said Civil War, Dean pretended like he didn't hear him. Not really feeling the love right now.
one of THE best episodes in the entire show! ive been excited for you guys to react to it :)
Knowing the two brothers
they will say it sucked
Free will is hard for beings unused to it. Poor Cas is having to deal with the consequences now.
Castiel is still willing to save them even when he’s at the disadvantage.
He's died for them twice now, what's one more I suppose
Of course, Castiel would die for them
For the most part, I really find myself agreeing with Cas. They fought with everything they had to stop the Apocalypse, and now Raphael wants to restart it. They worked with Crowley to stop the Apocalypse the first time around, because basically everything is worth stopping the Apocalypse.
I understand why Sam and Dean are very hurt and feel betrayed because Cas kept this from them and lied to them again and again. I understand why they might be scared, since this is very out of their hands. They have every right to be angry. But should Cas have told them? As a friend, hell yes. But as someone attempting to stop the Apocalypse? Well, that depends on what he thinks needs to be done, and how he thinks his friends will react to that, whether they will help or hinder him. Losing their friendship might be tough, but at least they will be alive with the rest of humanity if Cas is right in what he thinks needs to be done.
And so far, I don't see any other reasonable suggestions on what to do.
The only thing that's messed up about it is that Cas sort of loses himself along the way.
That "son of a bitch" when dean got his confirmation always kills me omg. The hurt in his voice is just too much for me omg, he finally trusted someone and cas betrayed him. Also i love Davion becoming more and more of a heller by the episode. (Heller=destiel shipper if you dont know)
03:26 the way Davion looks at the cat, I'm dying 😂 they look like epic enemies
Trust me. We are
I absolutely adore his saying little boyfriend
same
Oh yeah, Castiel joined the Winchester family … everyone made a deal with a demon.
There is a sad truth to that
@@matthewbee128 You’re right on that. Also, the Winchester family also includes Bobby with that specification too.
This is one of my all time fav eps! So excited to see your reactions!
Am I the only one that understands Cass? If he didn't do that shit then Lucifer and Michael would already be freed and the apocalypse would have already come and gone. Like...the fuck? Who else wouldn't make that kind of choice to ensure the safety of EVERYBODY ON EARTH? It's especially funny since Dean and Sam pull this kind of shit on an annual basis.
Nope, I get it. I just hate that he basically had to become a monster himself to do it.
I love that Sokka’s boomerang is on the top left shelf!
How can someone hate cas just for bringing sam back
The first fish walked in land approx 375 million years ago, so Cas is _at least_ 375mil years old!
That handshake yall had was everything! reminded me of spiderman and ned lol
My fav interactions now are always Nathan and the kitties 💕
I don't even watch supernatural I'm just here for Davion 😍 his reactions are always adorable
I like how the show isn’t afraid to make a loved character unlikeable.
i dont think this ep makes cas unlikable. just complicated.
I'd say this episode painted Cas as very human. Conflicted, doubted. The ending even showcases that as no different than any other religious human begging for a sign from God.
He never becomes unlikeable. He's lovely, just confused and misguided.
I developed a true hatred for Cas in the finale when he… well we all know what he did
@@matthewbee128 kill balthzar ?
Cas is not a traitor. He just got too ambitious and met his downfall just like any other human that would in his shoes.
4:34 that handshake was fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
"Free will's an illusion, Dean." - Michael ("The Song Remains the Same" 5x13)
I believe what Michael said to Dean in that episode is true. For instance, look at Castiel. He was a soldier who obeyed and followed the rules, then suddenly he started being a free thinker and having a mind of his own. As much as it seems like he suddenly switched, especially after being around the Winchesters, what if that was the plan along to have him break free so he can take charge and lead the flock? It's really something to think about.
Anyway, in regard to this episode, powerful. We got to see what Castiel was up to over the past year and what he's thinking and feeling. But I have to say, my favorite moment has to be when he repeated what Bobby said. He went all this time lying to them, especially to Dean who was being loyal to a fault, and he slips up without even thinking.
Also, this is another episode showing that "Dean is a bad friend" narrative is false. He may get snarky with Castiel, like he does with most people, but he had Castiel's back, felt bad about lying to him, and went against his instincts. That doesn't sound like a bad friend to me.
Well it doesn’t erased what the other Angel stated which was how they constantly called Cas to clean up their mess while he’s busy doing other things. Heaven house the souls of trillions of souls over centuries of humans being around. Ralph also wants to restart the apocalypse which the Winchesters aren’t as worried about since it doesn’t really affect them now that Mike and Luci can’t take over their bodies.
Have they tried helping Cas with his mission without Cas asking them? Heck, they even treated Bobby like crap multiple times as well such as when his soul was taken yet they constantly asked Bobby to help, not thank him, was ungrateful, and then got put in place by Bobby after he finally went off on them.
Dean felt bad about lying to Cas when he thought Cas had done nothing wrong (and he STILL lied, despite feeling bad)
The MOMENT Cas stopped obeying him/made his own decisions without consulting him, Dean turned on him, _refuses_ to let Cas explain his side/reasoning *and* threatened to kill him
Cas hasn't done _anything_ to warrant this behavior
The past 3 episodes _alone_ Cas
Left an important mission to send Sam & Dean to the past (they could have waited a day or w/e)
Left his war AGAIN to help defeat Eve
Protected them from Crowley's goons both in secret AND in front of them + never raised a hand against them even when they trapped him in holy fire
Dean is absolutely a terrible friend & in the wrong
@@audreyii6750 "cas hasn't done anything to warrant this behaviour" !!?? He is working with Crowley and trying to open purgatory that's enough for dean to treat cas like this and tbh I think cas wanted eve too, you know to get information about purgatory.
Winchesters do treat cas horrible sometimes but in this episode, I can understand deans behaviour, Cas kinda betrayed him.
@@mrkmoney1234 You mean the same angel that tried to kill Castiel later on in that same episode? And what was going on here on Earth was just as important as what was going on in Heaven. There's no either or here. And unlike Castiel, Sam and Dean are human, there's only so much they can do. How are Sam and Dean supposed to help if they don't get asked for their help? They're not mind readers and if they can ask for help, then so can Castiel and Bobby, which is what Dean told Bobby before. Matter of fact, when Bobby got his soul taken, Sam and Dean went overseas, knowing that Dean is afraid of flying, just to get Crowley's bones, so that Bobby can get his soul back. And if Castiel and Bobby felt like they were unappreciated, treated badly, and tired of Sam and Dean relying on them, then I'm sure they wouldn't do anything for them anymore, especially Bobby. But since they don't do what they do for them just to get a pat on the back, they continue to be there for Sam and Dean because they know they would do the same for them.
@@audreyii6750 Go back and watch this episode. Castiel also had guilt over lying to Dean and spying on him, but STILL did it anyway. So, I don't get why you're mad at Dean for doing that when Castiel did the same thing. And Dean didn't turn on him, he wanted to know the truth and Castiel was allowed to explain himself. Dean practically begged him not to do what he was doing because he knows how stuff like this ends up going. Dean threatened to kill Castiel? No, he didn't. He said he would do what he has to do to stop him. That doesn't necessarily mean kill him.
Why would they have waited a day or so to get the Phoenix Ash so they could kill Eve and then potentially risking something worse happening? You saw what she did by the time they got there, so I don't think holding off on going to her would've been a good idea. And like I told the other commenter in this thread, what was going on here on Earth, I don't know why Eve turning people into Jefferson Starships is being treated as no big deal, was equally as important as what was going on in Heaven and Castiel is the only one amongst his human friends who has powers and abilities that they don't have.
Anyway, if Dean is a terrible friend and in the wrong for acting the way he's acting, then the same could be said about Castiel. Let's take off the "Castiel is an innocent angel who does nothing wrong" goggles and realize that he may have good intentions, but he's going about it the wrong way. Both things could be true.
BEST EPISODE OF THE ENTIRE SEASON, you know i am right
Mark Sheppard is absolutely one love, i was 19, when i watched this season and totally fell in love)
Castiel’s life story is so crazy.
DESTIELLLLLLL ❤️ they literally act like bfs. if cas was a girl, they would be a couple
Easily be a couple
LOVING the kitty doing a cameo at the beginning
so sweet!
Cameron: *asks Nathan a question*
Nathan (totally paying attention to Cameron and not the cat in his lap): yeah...
2:00
I'm surprised all 3 of you have turned against Cas. He's literally done nothing wrong, rather, he's basically the only thing standing between humanity & the apocaplyse 2: Electric Boogaloo
This reminds me of Teg two: electric boogaloo😂 (iykyk)
Cas asking for a sign he got three Dean, Sam and Bobby. They were there for him and telling him working with Crowley was bad. Oh and yes to reacting to Charmed- the original! Not the remake.
I love y’all’s handshake it’s cute💜
My 6th favorite episode of the series. Great episode.
Season 6 always felt weird to me and off. It's because Kripke left after season 5 and they're finding their footing
More like it had too many storylines and they couldn’t focus on all of them
@@matthewbee128 yeah that to
Yesss ❤️ let's go ya'll are back with it finally. Hope you enjoy it
Oh Dean's faith in his boyfriend is everithing... even if he's wrong
Brother, not boyfriend. If they were boyfriends, their relationship would be abusive.
@@helenwood8482 u need therapy
22:53, Earth doesn’t suck Davion.. it’s the people on earth who suck.. Earth is absolutely beautiful and amazing.. if you look at pictures of what earth looked like around the world, before humans messed it up, you’ll see that this world that God created for us is absolutely beautiful.. ☺️💗🙏🏻✝️🌎
they are forgeting that they were also on cass side when Rachel tried to cass, the only person kept saying cass is lying is the skinny dude on the left
So I just subbed, watching thru from like 1x08? So I’m very pleased to see how far you’ve gotten. Your reactions can be wiiiiild sometimes. Love your guys dynamic and can tell you are great friends. I love to see it! Keep up these bangers.
Crowley is legit one of my favorite characters on this show. Mark Sheppard is just so enigmatic as that character. But he always throws himself into everything he does, work wise.
I ain’t gonna lie, I haven’t finished the series, and have been watching real time since S1 of SPN. I’ve gotten to season 12 and fell out of it. Just life shit you know? I’ve managed to still evade spoilers and literally have no idea what’s going on in the show.
🔥🔥👏🏻💜
So I got back on my Veronica Mars kick and just wanted to mention that show to you guys for a reaction. Nathan would get pissed off at the choices made, Davion would love the characters and Cameron would love the mysteries. It’s got great writing and interesting characters and worldbuilding. It also has an interesting history.
The original three season (which are the only ones of the series I saw) was on UPN (Season 1 & 2) and CW (Season 3). It got cancelled and ten years later got a movie, then got a revival on Hulu.
at the end of time there's going to be a new heaven and a new earth
"I was there, where were you" is such a blatant lie
Dean has spent this whole season being mad at Cas for not being at his beck & call AND not taking the Civil War seriously
Dean has been prioritizing _his_ problems all season, even when Cas would tell him he was needed else where
EXACTLY
Never clicked on a video so fast
davion being a destiel shipper is sending me 😭
As he should
always knew he was my man for a reason (his obviously superior taste)
That's Ironic because on the show Reaper the DMV is literally a portal to hell.
I’m finally caught up with your supernatural videos
There’s so many, that feat deserves a like 👍
One of my favorite episodes of the series, seeing everything come together is so awesome
Davion gets it. Nathan does not get it. Kidding 😆 love your reactions to this show!
Guys … *Guys* … _GUYS_ I just found out that Everything Everywhere All at Once is coming back to the theaters! It starts tomorrow (July 29th) and it’s not going to be at all theaters. In my area there’s only one or two showings each day. I don’t know how long it will be out for but it’s definitely a movie that should be watched on the big screen. Also, as an FYI be careful because there’s some sequences that could be an issue if you have photosensitivity issues.
Talkin about the dmv is in hell💯😭😭
One of my favorite episodes! I love Castiel telling us the story. Cass is right....free will is what is killing us all. Think about what is happening to us now. Great discussion. 👵❤☮
YES DAVION PLEASE REACT TO CHARMED GUYS!!! The OG one tho not the reboot
Hi! i’m Castiel. And my life is kinda crazy.
i mean dean and sam had a lot going on and when cas was busy fighting his war, they weren't there to help him. its conflicting to me bc when dean says something it goes, but he never listens :(
He literally barely lets Cas get a word in, just doubled down that he's right & Cas is wrong and wont even _explain_ himself
Literally just asks Cas to trust him, blindly trust that Dean is right, with the apocaplyse & heaven riding on the balance
@@audreyii6750right. Like you would think Dean would be more concerned about another archangel trying to start the end of the world considering it took him and his brother two years (s4&5) to prevent it the first time! L move.
Demon Bobby, Dean and Sam were a nice little gag.
i looove this episode so much. it makes cas very complex. also it's perfect from a dean/castiel perspective. i think this is the first ep that really soldifies it as a romance rather than a purely platonic relationship. the pining and yearning between them in this one is insane. everything cas does, he does for dean. dean's devotion for him is so intense. and then they fully breakup!!!
There is no romance. You Destiel folk have a warped view of what romance is. They are brothers. Brothers hurt each other a lot more than lovers do.
@@helenwood8482 cas is literally romantically canonically in love w dean
@@helenwood8482 girl have you ever taken an English class. Do you need it spelled out.
Misha confirmed it was a romantic love on Cas' side of things, but Jensen said it wasn't for Dean. it was an unrequited love.
@@frankjuarez3137 jensen literally never said that after confession, the most he said was during M&G where he said deans feelings are up for interpretation and that he doesn't want to put dean in a box
Oh name dropping charmed??? I can’t wait till y’all get to it like it ain’t rlly like supernatural but it’s rlly good and I binge it like 4 times. This episode we definitely got to see cass struggling with moral and just questioning what he things he’s suppose to do.
Haha don’t worry after this it gets super good again i think 😁👍🏼
I've been watching their videos for a few months and so far I think maybe the guy in blue and the guy in the black t-shirt are brothers, I'm not sure.
Epic episode💙
Me: waiting everyday for yall to make a video. (Yall: posts video) (YESSS)
Freedom is a deep convo, we have freedom here in the US compared to many countries out there; many countries would make you pay a fee or even jail you for saying things. You have the freedom to not live in the society construct by going to go live away from society if you want to.
Dean's hypocrisy in this episode is astounding tbh. "Tell me you aren't working with Crowley"
Oh, like _you_ worked with Crowley back in s5, Dean?
Like you *and* Sam worked _FOR_ Crowley earlier this very season??
One of my favourite episodes. We finnaly have seen Cass perspective and we've learned a lot of about the lore. About Castiel decisions:
In my opinion working with Crowley was the only option to prevent the second apocalypse and Castiel did what he had to. He should have told that to Winchesters, but I understand why he didn't. Dean's perspective is close minded. We are having ending of 4th season all over again. Dean don't even want to hear Castiel as he did with Sam. He just assumes he is 100% right and thats it. I really feel on Cass. The weight on his shoulders and this lack of understanding from best friends...
The, I don't even think he needed to tell Sam & Dean
They aren't his boss, or his keepers. This is a Heaven issue, something _far beyond_ the scope of two 30yo men. They can't fight in a Heavenly war, they can't help
Cas legit doesn't owe them anything, they're not a part of this side of Cas' life
It's you who's close minded
Yes Cas is Dean's boyfriend.
So good episode. Ugh still love it
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This was the 100th episode ! So only 227 episodes to go lol
No, it isn't. The 100th episode is Season 5, Episode 18 - Point of No Return.
I live for this video my favorite chapter and Deastiel shiper!Davion 10/10
I think its obvious that Cass and Crowley are the protaganist this season and Sam and Dean are just getting in the way of them and destroying the real antagonist Raphael. It reminds me of Star Wars and how it follows the two least significant to the story, C-3PO and R2D2, as a reference to Kurosawas Hidden Fortress, which I still need to see.
Let's Go!
Castiel is so in love with Dean are you kidding me
unpopular opinion: s7 rocks
Yes watch charmed THE OLD One
"I've taken some pretty big fish" like, _have you_ Dean? From s4-s6 Sam, Dean & Bobby *combined* have killed _one_ angel (Zachariah)
Every other time, _Cas_ has gotten them out of angel trouble.
Even with Lucifer! _Cas_ sacrificed himself to send Michael away, giving Dean time to get beat up by Lucifer until Sam took control with the power of love
So, how _is_ Dean supposed to stop Castiel, the only reason he's even made it this far?
Shut up
season 1-5 of supernatural......are the best, one of the few times i agree with davion and cameron. Also theologically.....no there is no individual heaven. Now there may be levels to heaven depending on how in communion you were with god before you died but there is one objective heaven that everyone will enjoy because its not your physical emotions or body experiencing the happiness its your soul and only god knows what will truly satisfy the a soul that he created (spoiler alert.....it's being in communion with god)
9:39 davion said we gotta watch charmed. I hope he means the OG not this new shit. It's like music to my ears
Ofc I mean the OG charmed
@@JustUs yaasss those were my girls
I love the reactions to spn
Does Nathan know the shake or is it a twin thing?
Castiel spying unseen is kinda creepy and he doesn’t quite seem to realize it yet.
I genuinely don't think he thought of it as spying
The episode starts with him telling us/God how he has observed the world throughout his years (the evolution from sea to land, the tower of Babel, etc)
A big part of being an eternal celestial being seems to be just watching over things
I think that's why he didn't notice anything wrong with repeating the "superman going darkside" line, from his pov there's no difference between observing humanity & manifesting among them
@@audreyii6750 yup, but that shows how inhuman he is and I don’t mean that in a negative way. Castiel is literally not a human and because of that, doesn’t realize when he’s passing boundaries.
Not she's still laying. It's he's laying.
If God just stopped the war we wouldn't learn or grow from that conflict.
SPOILER ALERT!
That's exactly what he said in season 11: “It's no longer helping, it's enabling.”
Kitty!😻
Crowley being king of hell gives him connections/control over hell/rule over demons
But he's no stronger than the average demon. If he pissed Cas off Cas could absolutely smite him without breaking a sweat
I’ve been waiting for y’all to see this episode for so long. Season 6 may have been a little eh, but this episode has got to be one of my top favorites from the entire show.
Michael gone and this shit happens...
Literally dating
I hate how the Gamble era presents hell. Hell should be presented the way it was in Season 3 and 4.
Okay, but honestly though I would rather be stuck on the rack than be stuck in a neverending line that leads to nowhere. Crowley had it right. I mean, have you ever been to the DMV? That shit is super hell.
Woot!
I has first?! Where’s my crown?
Gotta stop talking throughout the episode bro they kidding key information, especially the scene when Bobby mention Superman
Fun fact Jensen didnt like him and cass shipped tgether
charmed would be an AMAZING watch. but you need to watch the oldschool one not the new one. the reboot is nowhere near as good as the O.G.
I second this!!!
I believe if you have HBO or HBO max u can watch it there.
Cat😍