Tesla Model Y: True Cost of Ownership After 9 Months

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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    Breaking down exactly what I've paid to own my Tesla Model Y over the course of the last 9 months. What's the true Model Y cost of ownership? What should you expect to pay? Let's get into it.
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Комментарии • 2,5 тыс.

  • @RyanShawtech
    @RyanShawtech  3 года назад +26

    ► UPDATED 1 YEAR TRUE COST VIDEO: ruclips.net/video/GkpOZ1UlkPc/видео.html

    • @openureyes2thetruth1
      @openureyes2thetruth1 3 года назад +8

      You forgot to mention that german suvs especially BMW, Mercedes depreciate "MASSIVELY" in comparison to Tesla and they become nightmare to maintain. I LOVE BMW, Mercedes and Audi but this is just a cold hard fact. Having bought and sold many and having family in the auto industry...

    • @chefgav1
      @chefgav1 3 года назад +5

      You failed to mention long term maintenance which is ridiculous. Very Average warranty and high cost of parts is eye watering. There is a story of a blogger who reportedly had to replace a light globe at a cost of $2000 who complained which got the attention of Musk who reportedly apologised to him personally and provided it at cost.
      Good luck if your just an average person who needs parts

    • @ThePolishedapple
      @ThePolishedapple 3 года назад +2

      I'm not sure what you're trying to convey in your video, but it's not the cost of ownership. Some of your costs like paying the principle part of the loan aren't really costs - because you'll get some of them back when you sell. To calculate the true cost of ownership you should be including actual depreciation, electricity cost, maintenance cost and finance cost. Your video gives people some idea of the financial outlay of buying a Model Y if you have around $10k to put towards it, and that is helpful.

    • @rafars2246
      @rafars2246 2 года назад +2

      Insane is to think you save money 😂

    • @ultimatedouchebag6760
      @ultimatedouchebag6760 2 года назад +1

      you spent $50K to $90k to save gas and hunt for cheap insurance....great logic. $500 for a honda fit?

  • @NotTubeIm
    @NotTubeIm 3 года назад +1164

    Good to know the Honda Fit is cheaper than an Airpods Max.

  • @02nf2i
    @02nf2i 3 года назад +685

    $816/mo car payment is nuts. I get that you offset that with revenue from this channel, but for most people, that just seems like a bad decision.

    • @KimmieDeeToons
      @KimmieDeeToons 3 года назад +40

      This video was very helpful and I would never want the first release of a car. I doubt any of these owners are keeping these vehicles until paid in full/72 months. Looking at his upfront cost, (if offered at the time) he could have paid cash to lease that vehicle for 2 years with the cash from his downpayment, trade in, etc. Makes sense why they're making fluff videos daily like their car notes depend on em lol. I totally understand now, do what ya gotta do. The cost really need to come down.

    • @meloapa
      @meloapa 3 года назад +54

      Ah yes, the internet scold appears. If you don't like it, or can't afford it, don't do it. How hard is that? Ryan ditched his FIT for five bills and that car will make someone happy (I am a fan of the FIT and if that were my budget I'd buy it in a heart beat).
      Generally speaking the world doesn't need people to tell adults what they should (or should not) be spending their own $ on.

    • @henrycruz45cal
      @henrycruz45cal 3 года назад +59

      Nuts??? I agree that's cheap, compared to what I paid for my 100k 2015 Model S.
      Monthly payments is relative to your place in life right now. One day that won't seem so high to you.
      Your day will come.

    • @02nf2i
      @02nf2i 3 года назад +112

      @@henrycruz45cal I can easily afford a monthly payment that high. I choose not to take on that much debt for a car and incur a high monthly payment, but others may. I see your angle though-imply that I can’t afford it. If you read my comment, you’ll see that I said that this monthly payment is too high or would be irresponsible for MOST Americans. Guess what? Americans have a debt problem, a savings rate that is too low, and allow their desire for new and shiny things and instant gratification to put them in a precarious financial position.

    • @02nf2i
      @02nf2i 3 года назад +76

      @@meloapa wrong. Financial literacy is sorely missing in our culture. Most people would do well to learn financial responsibility including debt and cash flow management. When the average American can’t afford a $1K home repair and splurges on debt-fueled shopping sprees, we’ve got a problem. Grown adults can do whatever they want. Go smoke 2 packs a day, eat fast food and get fat, become a diabetic, watch tv all day, buy more than you can afford. Sure-we live in a free society. But I can still give people my opinion that maybe they should consider having some restraint. That’s just one small voice in the cacophony shouting at us to buy more, spend more, accumulate more, impress more.

  • @damien2339
    @damien2339 3 года назад +66

    Wow, one of the best, if not THE best, review of a Telsa ownership after a couple of months. Incredibly detailed and useful for everyone. Thanks a lot Ryan...

  • @duncan649
    @duncan649 3 года назад +3

    I have a 10 year old Volvo diesel. It is reliable and has not let me down in 8 years. It can be serviced cheaply by the local guy down the road. To fill the tank from empty costs around 50 pounds. With this I get 800 miles, yes 800 miles of range. So If I fancy driving from London to Scotland and back on one tank, no problem. No range anxiety, no stress, no worries. To fill up takes 5 minutes and no hunting around for charge points. I can pick up a good second hand car in the UK for around 3 to 5k sterling. You do the math.

    • @swedish_sadhguru3854
      @swedish_sadhguru3854 2 года назад +1

      Same here......in Sweden i get a nice BMW X3 for 10k usd, why buy a 60k Tesla, maybe in 10 years or so.

  • @markbartlett6287
    @markbartlett6287 2 года назад +21

    It might make good sense in the short term to take advantage of free Supercharging, but it may come back to bite you in the long run. Supercharging reduces battery life compared to slower home charging, and a new battery can cost over twenty grand. You can buy a lot of kWh's at $.15 each with that kind of money.

  • @2013AirForce
    @2013AirForce 3 года назад +65

    One thing to keep in mind is that there's an efficiency loss in the home charging equation. Tesla estimates about 80% efficiency, so 1,649 kWh of energy used by the car from home charging meant you actually used around 2,061 kWh to get that much power into the car.

    • @kvishnudev
      @kvishnudev 3 года назад +12

      Don't break his heart again.

    • @IkethRacing
      @IkethRacing 2 года назад +6

      tests have shown well above 90% for 240v charging and as low as 50% efficiency for 120v... just dont 120v

    • @RetroCaptain
      @RetroCaptain 2 года назад

      @@IkethRacing And all private homes have easy access to 240 so it's only laziness that stops an owner from obtaining the best charging situation.

    • @kckn4fun
      @kckn4fun 2 года назад +9

      @@RetroCaptain Laziness won't pay the electrician's bill to run that circuit, get a permit, pay for inspection, etc etc. Think before you judge.

    • @nelsonpquintana3432
      @nelsonpquintana3432 2 года назад +5

      Would like to see your updated video when you replace the battery bank in 3 years(aprox $20K)

  • @BuckMcAntlerson
    @BuckMcAntlerson 3 года назад +246

    Dave Ramsey is shitting his pants watching this video.

    • @scottanderson691
      @scottanderson691 3 года назад +6

      This made me laugh so hard it isn't even funny.

    • @jrodgersjr
      @jrodgersjr 3 года назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @TheSaray08
      @TheSaray08 3 года назад +5

      Lmfaoooooo “72 months!” *faints*

    • @BlackhawkPilot
      @BlackhawkPilot 3 года назад +7

      Did as Dave proposes and paid cash.

    • @Palpatine4Senate
      @Palpatine4Senate 3 года назад +12

      Good. I can't stand him.

  • @kenfrank2730
    @kenfrank2730 2 года назад +37

    Great information in your video. But two other Tesla considerations: batteries are heavy, so your tires will wear out sooner. And as the battery ages, its charge capacity will decrease, meaning range will decrease. I believe this is true with all EVs.

    • @superstarcat7654
      @superstarcat7654 2 года назад

      And won’t using the heater and AC decrease range too? No one says how many mile decrease in range that is.
      And we have all heard that Teslas cannot be towed. They have to be put in a special Service mode, but you cannot do that if you already ran out of electricity. Then there is the GM EV problem of bursting into fire. GM has a directive out to not park you GM EV in a garage but far enough away from your house, so if/when it bursts into flame, your house does not burn down. They are having lithium battery issues. I have to assume that also means don’t park in a parking garage, so you don’t burn up other peoples cars too.

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos 2 года назад +2

      Battery degradation should be included in the cost of ownership analysis above (but is not).

    • @superstarcat7654
      @superstarcat7654 2 года назад +2

      And these heavier vehicles wear out the roads quicker. No more blaming (road wear) it just on the trucks.

  • @jasondonnelly8940
    @jasondonnelly8940 3 года назад +60

    Thanks for the video . I rode in one the other day and fell in love with the torque . I Concidered purchasing a Tesla thinking I would save over time with the lack of fuel cost and much less maintenance . I now realize it's an expensive ,but fun , toy . I'll just keep driving my Toyota 'til the wheels fall off .

    • @jkidd7608
      @jkidd7608 2 года назад +5

      That's how I feel. I've driven a few and it's a cool experience but in the long run it's probably not worth it. Especially if you plan on owing a car for 10+ years. Tesla has an 8 year warranty on the batteries I believe. If they go bad after that point you're looking around $20,000 to replace them. Not fun. EVs probably aren't the future. Maybe gas/plug in hybrids are a better future. I'd be fine with a car that gets 50-100 miles on electric but can also run on gas.

    • @d53101
      @d53101 2 года назад

      Robert Bryce said it best in his book Power Hungry. “Electric Vehicles are the next best thing, and always will be”.

  • @frevazz3364
    @frevazz3364 3 года назад +335

    He did a great job detailing a terrible financial decision.

    • @DJ-xs7ln
      @DJ-xs7ln 3 года назад +16

      Especially when I can buy a good used car outright for his nine-month ownership cost.
      He is going to have to own that car for a long time to make it work out financially.

    • @greyson6391
      @greyson6391 3 года назад +1

      This will be insane profitable since he got fsd

    • @aboutface102
      @aboutface102 3 года назад +17

      Don't forget how well these hold value. If he went to sell it he could get most of that money back.

    • @Baker.Matthew
      @Baker.Matthew 3 года назад +5

      he did make a youtube channel out of it and makes a living on talking about it.

    • @daveinpublic
      @daveinpublic 3 года назад +5

      @@aboutface102 He spent $62K ($68K with interest) to buy the car. He also said KellyBB puts the car at $53K. So if he sold after 9 months, he'd lose $9K and some change.

  • @kentrelhayes5982
    @kentrelhayes5982 3 года назад +18

    Loveeee this video bro. Especially the math of it all, people tend to forget that not all of your monthly payments go to the cars price and at times it could even go towards your interest first.

    • @daveinpublic
      @daveinpublic 3 года назад

      Yes, very glad he included all the extra costs.

  • @sleepy670
    @sleepy670 3 года назад +58

    lol $65k on a car and he talks about $500 in gas as being a significant savings. If you're spending that much on a car, nobody cares.

    • @KrymiaMusic
      @KrymiaMusic 3 года назад

      i was thinking the same...

    • @TheGuruStud
      @TheGuruStud 3 года назад

      I don't even care and my cars are worth a few grand tops. All of my Infinitis get 15-18 mpg lol. I still get the same range as a pos tesla...except I can fill it up anywhere and doesn't matter when I forget to refuel for that same reason.
      And, nope, Tesla performance models can't even out-perform them. Booooost.

  • @NotTubeIm
    @NotTubeIm 3 года назад +18

    That trade-in value is nothing until you actually trade it in for that amount, kbb says my Model 3 is worth around $40k for trade-ins, but Tesla&Carmax&Carnava all offered merely $32k-$34k.

    • @TheCreamRisesToTheTop
      @TheCreamRisesToTheTop 3 года назад +7

      Seriously. No one is going to pay $50k+ on a trade in for a car that is barely more than that brand new.

    • @Merdock-yp2xj
      @Merdock-yp2xj 3 года назад +2

      True, KBB had my car at $6,500 trade in and Tesla offered me $4,100

    • @irvinwright4075
      @irvinwright4075 3 года назад +3

      That is the least of the problems with this video!

    • @davidradtke160
      @davidradtke160 3 года назад +4

      Trade in value always sucks because the dealer has to make money off it. Got to sell directly instead of trade in.

  • @supergrendel
    @supergrendel 3 года назад +31

    I like not having a car payment way more than I like having a new car. Those payments are just insane.

    • @cholepuri
      @cholepuri 3 года назад +2

      Haha... same here. I have been pushing out buying a new car for years now.

    • @milojayjay
      @milojayjay 3 года назад +1

      Same, my 07 Honda still going strong 🤣

    • @supergrendel
      @supergrendel 3 года назад

      @@milojayjay 2006 Accord here 227k miles. New clutch at 199k. Otherwise it's just gas, tires, oil and brakes.

    • @ZekeMagnum
      @ZekeMagnum 3 года назад

      get a better paying job then. also, obviously, pay more cash up front and lower your car payment. I am putting down 23.000 euros as car payment on my M3 LR and my monthly cost will then be 270 euros with 1.95% interest

    • @supergrendel
      @supergrendel 3 года назад +2

      @@ZekeMagnum But the question is why would you put down 23,000 euros in the first place. I could buy a Tesla with cash outright but for me a car is just a means of transportation. I don’t care how fast it is or how cool it looks. I would much rather invest my money or buy property.

  • @jfwqnkjfnjknfkjqfk2612
    @jfwqnkjfnjknfkjqfk2612 3 года назад +130

    So in a nutshell, you couldn't afford a $50,000 car but you still managed to get in debt just to own one.

    • @nemesis656
      @nemesis656 3 года назад +19

      and then gets happy about "saving" 500 bucks in gas after getting ripped off.

    • @woohooivan
      @woohooivan 3 года назад +10

      @@nemesis656 Relax man. The guy drives a ton and he loves the car. He’s also made a decent name for himself with a Tesla based videos. This means he’s got some income. Lastly, if he needs to jump ship he can sell the car and not be upside down.
      What makes you say he can’t afford it?

    • @felonstomillionaires
      @felonstomillionaires 2 года назад

      Lol

    • @blueworldadam
      @blueworldadam 2 года назад +1

      I wonder the 500$ gas saving if he work at home hahahhahahahha

    • @WasRecording
      @WasRecording 2 года назад +1

      This video paid for the Tesla

  • @richbarrier
    @richbarrier 3 года назад +164

    Your car payment is more than my mortgage on a 2,500 square ft house not including taxes and insurance in Charlotte NC.

    • @motobikerider9896
      @motobikerider9896 3 года назад +14

      Wow that's a closet apartment in NY, please don't move to NY🤣

    • @joejesus9902
      @joejesus9902 3 года назад +10

      I need to move to Charlotte. Los Angeles home prices are awful

    • @robertbauer1999
      @robertbauer1999 3 года назад +7

      Ya but I can live in my Tesla and drive it wherever I feel like going

    • @thearchibaldtuttle
      @thearchibaldtuttle 3 года назад +3

      Exactly, in Charlotte!

    • @newbharry1
      @newbharry1 3 года назад

      And more than my investment property in arizona generating $.
      Kinda sad. Government pumping 1200, $600 and potentially 2k for this

  • @Cozzera
    @Cozzera 3 года назад +281

    Wow, it sure costs a lot to save money!

    • @Palpatine4Senate
      @Palpatine4Senate 3 года назад +3

      but it's getting cheaper all the time!

    • @r.d.9399
      @r.d.9399 3 года назад +10

      It's not really saving money until it's fully paid off.

    • @advduc
      @advduc 3 года назад +19

      This breakdown on ownership cost put things in perspective. I’ll keep my paid off car and rather invest that 800 - 1000 dollars right back into the market. Hell, I would rather just invest it into Tesla stock.

    • @NextProcessing
      @NextProcessing 3 года назад +15

      I guess I’m missing something. Approximately 14500 miles in a medium sized sedan would be roughly 580 gallons of fuel or $1450. I don’t see any savings? 14500 in a Honda FIT would use 414 gallons of fuel or $1,035. Seems to be cheaper by far to drive a gas vehicle.

    • @Cozzera
      @Cozzera 3 года назад +5

      @@NextProcessing The cost of Fuel is a very small portion of the overall cost of buying and operating a vehicle.

  • @scottirwin2562
    @scottirwin2562 3 года назад +20

    I saw somewhere Tesla deletes upgrades if transferred to new owners, claiming the new owner did not pay the fee.

    • @marby602
      @marby602 3 года назад +2

      IF they do..... that would be some bogus shit !

    • @kylecosper6766
      @kylecosper6766 3 года назад +2

      This is correct, because if you upgrade to a new Tesla you keep the 10000 auto drive feature

  • @hphillips7425
    @hphillips7425 3 года назад +38

    Good video and thanks for the breakdown 👍🏻. At 60K you could get a loaded Toyota and use the 30K saved for life time fuel and maintenance

    • @benh5774
      @benh5774 2 года назад +8

      I’m trying to tell my wife the same thing

    • @hphillips7425
      @hphillips7425 2 года назад +4

      @@benh5774 good luck from west Tennessee

    • @MrDannyboilove
      @MrDannyboilove 2 года назад +2

      But then you are comparing a 60k car to a 30k car, you could say the same about any car. If you get an actual 30k electric car then it would make a difference. I understand you are not for electric cars, but why make a claim like this, when you know tesla is supposed to be a "luxury" vehicle. I'm not saying it actually is, but that that is the price range tesla has set it self up in for now. There are plenty of electric cars in the 30k range.

    • @jkidd7608
      @jkidd7608 2 года назад +4

      @@MrDannyboilove if you've been in and driven some Teslas you would know that they are far from a luxury vehicle. Their interiors and craftsmanship is subpar.

    • @lisayeary4256
      @lisayeary4256 2 года назад +5

      Got a used Toyota Prius for 11k. I get 58 to 60 mpg to my work.
      Winning!
      I've got pictures to prove it.

  • @richgane5844
    @richgane5844 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for giving us all your detailed costs. Operating a financial practice has given me some insights that may help you audience. First of all, you would need to compare the costs of similar cars. I suggest comparing a Honda Accord to the Model Y (not a BMW X3). Compare over 72 months. Here’s an example. Because the Base price of the Honda is less expensive, let’s say your monthly payment is $300 less. So 300 X 72 (months)= 21,600 extra you paid over the 72 months. Now comes the important part. This means your “opportunity cost” of owing the Tesla was 21,600. In other words, had you purchased the Accord you would have had an extra 300/month to invest over your lifetime. (Assuming you keep buying Tesla’s) If you can average 10% growth per year on this money, you will double your money every 7 years. Using a future value financial calculator your opportunity cost would have been 683,697 over a 30 year period. However, even if you stop buying cars after 30 years your costs do not stop. Had you this 683,697 it would keep doubling every 7 years (at 10% growth). So after 30 years, if you were age 65, then 7 years later it would be worth over 1.3 million and at age 79 over 2.6 million. If you died at age 86, you would have forfeited over 5.2 million of legacy to your children. And, the costs don’t stop there. They keep accumulating generation after generation. So you see, if you don’t factor in “opportunity cost” (as 95% of financial planners don’t), you are not getting the full story. (We are not factoring in trade in values or taxes in this simple example, which actually would make owing the Tesla more costly, unless you could write it off your business)

    • @bobhabib7662
      @bobhabib7662 2 года назад

      Finally! A well thought out and non-emotional analysis! And yes, you are right. If you want to purchase a Tesla, or any car for that matter, run it through a business or side hustle.

  • @mmars4032
    @mmars4032 3 года назад +9

    AND the number of hours sitting in your car during charging time, add to that, the half charge max in East coast cold weather!

    • @Libertylute
      @Libertylute 3 года назад

      @m mars This is not a gasoline powered vehicle. Since there is no danger of spillage and fire, you are not required by law to stay with your vehicle while it is fueling, as you are with an ICE car. Most people intelligent enough to purchase an electric car are intelligent enough to figure out that they can eat at a restaurant, shop, or sleep (at home, at a campground, or in a hotel) while the car is charging, so the time penalty is minimal. See my reply to Evan Wu above for more.

  • @gl3862
    @gl3862 3 года назад +350

    Final decision: Buy Used Toyota Prius for $12K and $30 monthly insurance and be done with it!! Thanks for the video! ✌️😃

    • @Reddylion
      @Reddylion 3 года назад +2

      Hmm !

    • @Bonanzoo
      @Bonanzoo 3 года назад +14

      for $12k, you can get the 4th generation Prius. The 2017 models and up have TSS standard. Add Comma ai, and you can make your Prius level 2 autonomous driving for an extra $1000. I plan on doing this in 2021 when I upgrade and let go of my Prius C.

    • @chaleethao1986
      @chaleethao1986 3 года назад +44

      I hate all these videos of "how much money I saved by buying a Tesla"
      A tesla is still out of a lot of people's finances (especially this guy's 1k/month recurring loan payment for 5+ years)
      That auto loan + insurance is someone's nice 3 car house mortgage in not-California

    • @sanjosemike3137
      @sanjosemike3137 3 года назад +27

      My 2004 Prius has 126,000 miles. Had to replace the main battery for 1800 dollars 6 months ago, but that was originally a 2004 battery!
      There are plenty of people driving used Priuses for over 200,000 miles. When you own a car for over 200,000 miles, you get your money’s worth.
      The Tesla is more comfortable than a Prius, but the Prius is vastly more economical to own. I don’t think there is another car that will beat its value.
      Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

    • @brysonkennedy3909
      @brysonkennedy3909 3 года назад +3

      never drive a small car again . it is too dangerous.

  • @mikedawson7363
    @mikedawson7363 3 года назад +4

    How can he be disrespecting the Honda Fit like that. Those things never die. I got a 2007 civic with 260,000 miles and still runs perfect.

  • @quinntee9260
    @quinntee9260 3 года назад +5

    Very informative but you forgot another variable in the equation: time.
    Normally it takes a person 5 mins to fill their gas tank. How long does it take to charge at the supercharger?
    Also, convenient fee. You easily find a gas station every 5 mins drive. How far does it take to drive to supercharger station? Is it mostly convenient for you??

  • @josephcline3652
    @josephcline3652 3 года назад +4

    Cost is still WAAAAAY too steep to upgrade. I will wait. Right now, the cost of my paid-off vehicle is about $300-400 a year. Hard to beat that, especially when your monthly payments are... 2-3x that. Yikes.

  • @tokio1651
    @tokio1651 3 года назад +11

    thanks for taking ur time on this video, its so helpful. thought about owning one myself so this help a lot! well done

  • @ricochet4434
    @ricochet4434 3 года назад +234

    THANKS for talking me OUT of getting a Tesla!

    • @Palpatine4Senate
      @Palpatine4Senate 3 года назад +9

      It retains its value and has a lower cost to own. And you DONT want that? FOOL!

    • @chrishubbs8633
      @chrishubbs8633 3 года назад +27

      The Tesla still cost way more for the “average” person than a normal gas car. When you can buy a descent Toyota for half the price. You will never get back the extra savings from the Tesla.

    • @NashvilleWarEagle
      @NashvilleWarEagle 3 года назад +8

      @@chrishubbs8633 You can buy a ton of cars for less, but they don't do half the things. If all you want is a cheaper car, you're right, there are a lot of options

    • @TrisjensChronicles1203
      @TrisjensChronicles1203 3 года назад +22

      @@NashvilleWarEagle Half the things? Are you speaking of technology wise? The average consumer don’t care about self driving capabilities, auto pilot, blah blah blah. They just want a dependable affordable car. Which Tesla is not, its aimed at a niche market. Which I think is locking itself in a box. All you are paying for is the technology and the battery tech. Which who is driving 300 miles at one time constantly on a daily basis? And if they are, guess what they aren’t in a Tesla. They are more than likely driving a fuel efficient gas or Hybrid vehicle.

    • @danielrice5474
      @danielrice5474 3 года назад +10

      Same here. LOL. That Honda Fit is looking pretty sweet.

  • @caddy511
    @caddy511 3 года назад +68

    Nice video, thank you for this. If you would have invested that money in tesla stock in March, you would have had @ $140k now. Insane

    • @nelsonpun
      @nelsonpun 3 года назад

      Dayummmmm

    • @tyharris9994
      @tyharris9994 3 года назад +1

      LOL. Nice comment.

    • @rubendominguez2868
      @rubendominguez2868 3 года назад +7

      That’s what I did! Maybe buy a Tesla courtesy of Tesla!

    • @caddy511
      @caddy511 3 года назад +1

      @@rubendominguez2868 you're a legend!

    • @sandygo9098
      @sandygo9098 3 года назад +3

      "that money"? Tesla stock tripled since March: $16k ("the money he actually spent") * 3 is $48k... not $140k.

  • @Andrew-zx9wx
    @Andrew-zx9wx 3 года назад +10

    Outstanding breakdown and explanation of your costs, even if most folks couldn’t stomach the payments (by reading the comments). Thanks for doing this.

  • @evelynnemelo98
    @evelynnemelo98 Год назад

    Recent Tesla owner here (2023 Model 3 RWD), your channel was recommended to me and I love it. Great video! It's crazy how expensive hydro is in California. I'm in Canada (Ontario), which does not mean cost of living is cheap to live here but I pay $0.08/kwh (Time of use off peak is $0.07 so I preferred to pay the extra $0.01 and charge whenever I want).

  • @biovmr
    @biovmr 3 года назад +6

    I think it's best to leave out the trade-in $500 (or any other trade-in amount), because it really has nothing to do with the ownership cost for the other vehicle. Good rundown other wise. I waiting on my CyberTruck (about 2 years out) and will do the math on it before committing to a final purchase. I will be replacing 2 vehicles (my 2003 SportTrac truck and a 2019 Honda Fit) in 2022/2023 when my number comes up.

    • @norwegianblue2017
      @norwegianblue2017 2 года назад

      Unless there was something majorly wrong with the Honda Fit, he got hosed on that trade-in. I see high-mileage models going for $6k+ today.

  • @cutehumor
    @cutehumor 3 года назад +22

    you traded your honda fit for $500, notify me when you trade in your Tesla Model Y!

    • @nemesis656
      @nemesis656 3 года назад

      but don't worry, he saved a whopping 500 bucks in gas!!!

  • @billrehm3590
    @billrehm3590 3 года назад +7

    When the warranty is done, what will the cost be when you have to take it the Tesla's dealer for repairs. What was the fit and finish. People are complaining about the quality. Consumers report ranked them pretty bad.

    • @gregjeffcoat4258
      @gregjeffcoat4258 3 года назад +1

      Tesla is the latest fad. Wait a few years and something else will come along. The real world keeps catching up.

  • @franciscovasquez4555
    @franciscovasquez4555 3 года назад +5

    Great break down and enjoyed how you covered the topic. But theses type of cars don't work for everyone. I'll stick to my 1ton dully and 93 octane SS trailblazer. Keep up the great info amigo

  • @gusjackson3658
    @gusjackson3658 2 года назад +1

    1 thing that goes unnoticed is tyres. You replace them earlier because all of that torque wears them out more quickly. Expect to get 30,000 kms only on a set.

  • @magnetmannenbannanen
    @magnetmannenbannanen 3 года назад +132

    holy crap. so you bought a 100000 dollar electric car to save 500 dollars on fuel?

    • @Sunn777
      @Sunn777 3 года назад +4

      It’s still less expensive than BMW X6

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral 3 года назад +15

      He utterly skipped the home charger cost of ownership, but did cover the cost of electricity, and completely ignored the road taxes you pay in ICE cars which will 100% come to EV and already are reality in Norway making the cost of transport ~equal if the car cost upfront is equal in said country... Example: ~30mpg and each gallon has ~$0.50 in federal road taxes + local taxes. So, each mile driven has a TOLL(tax) of ~2c/mile and is even higher for diesel. Thus, his 14,000 miles driven will have an additional TAX of $280 that the government will 100% guaranteed get one way or another in either supercharging taxes/kWh, or in license plate taxes, or tabs or.... So, his $500 saved in fuel each year is in fact ~$200. Nothing to ignore, but not exactly a giant selling point.

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 3 года назад +9

      You gotta remember that this guy makes a living off of Tesla, definitely not your average joe.

    • @baobo67
      @baobo67 3 года назад +7

      @@BoleDaPole Precisely. He had nothing bad to say and 9 months is too soon to come up with cost of running figures.

    • @chefgav1
      @chefgav1 3 года назад

      Yep and the replacement of there light globes are $2000 each

  • @zach-fl6qp
    @zach-fl6qp 3 года назад +13

    imagine going from a 2008 honda fit to a tesla model y, that’s the type of upgrade my life needs

    • @HDnatureTV
      @HDnatureTV 3 года назад

      Just start a youtube Tesla channel. ;-)

    • @Bluebull308
      @Bluebull308 3 года назад

      Me too

    • @advduc
      @advduc 3 года назад

      It’s yours for a cool grand a month with good credit.

  • @e.w.6470
    @e.w.6470 3 года назад +11

    Charging cost should include time cost as well.

    • @kathy9399
      @kathy9399 3 года назад +3

      I'm also wondering that. I can easily drive over 300 miles a day and don't want to spend my time at a charging station verses the few minutes it takes to get gas. Plus my current car gets over 600 miles to a tank of diesel!

    • @Libertylute
      @Libertylute 3 года назад

      @Evan Wu It effectively takes almost no time to charge at home in your garage while you sleep. If you take only a couple of long trips per year, the total time spent at charging stations will be LESS than the total time loss for a ten-minute gas station visit every week: 10 minutes x 52 weeks = 520 minutes or 8.5 hours. Most electric vehicle recharging sessions are 30 to 45 minutes at most. You might well get in 10 to 15 recharging sessions (while you are grabbing a lunch or taking a toilet break) in the same total amount of time you now spend waiting around inhaling poisonous fumes. Think about it.

  • @wellseewho
    @wellseewho 3 года назад +2

    Something is wrong to myself if I have to go through complex calculations like this in order to convince myself to sign a loan to finance a $68,000 car in order to save money on gas. It really is starting to sound like spending a dollar to save a penny.

    • @r.d.9399
      @r.d.9399 3 года назад

      Owning a Tesla is not worth it if saving money is the goal. Buying a 1999 Toyota Corolla would be the best bet in that regard but you'd be driving a 99 Corolla.

  • @antoniogomez8585
    @antoniogomez8585 2 года назад +3

    One of the best videos I’ve seen about owning a Tesla by the way paying $816 + car insurance was close to 1k a month but maybe the shocking part for me was the monthly insurance payment I was expecting more in the car insurance especially after going from a Honda fit to tesla!

  • @JoshuaCherwinski
    @JoshuaCherwinski 3 года назад +10

    I think you are forgetting the insurance premium, for me all the “fuel” savings are
    Lost in insurance premium alone.

    • @lvlakshman2010
      @lvlakshman2010 3 года назад +2

      I just got a quote from estrange which bumped up 6m premium by $60 for switching from Honda Accord hybrid to model Y

    • @02nf2i
      @02nf2i 3 года назад

      Very good point, and in my state, I’d have to pay a lot more in property tax on the car.

    • @raygold1
      @raygold1 3 года назад

      FWIW My Model Y insurance is less than I was paying for a 2017 Honda Civic.

    • @Torahobservantisrael
      @Torahobservantisrael 3 года назад

      @@raygold1 was it a type r?

    • @02nf2i
      @02nf2i 3 года назад

      @@raygold1 I don’t know how that can be. If the value of the car is higher, it should cost more to insure it. Did you have a terrible deal on your old insurance policy?

  • @bungle5785
    @bungle5785 3 года назад +98

    If you can’t afford the payments over 48 months, you can’t afford the car.

    • @shinaito
      @shinaito 3 года назад +11

      @@justynthyme do you own your home or own your apartment ??? Seems like something someone who can’t afford things would say. Money is good to have fluid why blow your entire savings on a car when you can use that 50k to invest in other things and by 3-4 years earn that money back x2 in stocks and in real estate. having debt is a good thing if you think the richest people in the world don’t have debt then that’s why you aren’t making Tesla videos on your own 😂

    • @JamieR2077
      @JamieR2077 3 года назад +3

      @@justynthyme PREACH

    • @TrisjensChronicles1203
      @TrisjensChronicles1203 3 года назад +3

      If you can’t afford to pay the car off within 2 years, get rid if it - Dave Ramsey

    • @brienmaybe.4415
      @brienmaybe.4415 3 года назад

      @@justynthyme You will never own your home, even when you pay it off, the very ground you walk on isnt yours.

    • @torbenjensen189
      @torbenjensen189 3 года назад +1

      Well, even a Tesla lasts more than 4 years, so I do not see the logic. Of course its cheaper to pay cash, because interests do add up, but if you plan on keeping the car for at least 7 years, there is no problem with a 7 year loan.
      My real concern with Tesla (or EVs in general) is that you run the risk that technology takes a huge jump. If Tesla does some of the things they claim they will do, like the million mile battery, the price of used Tesla will go through the floor.

  • @dreadog6425
    @dreadog6425 3 года назад +9

    That was excellent... You have made a sale for my new 2021 Audi SQ3. Your numbers were scary real and until Tesla's prices come down I'm not a customer.

    • @rgaud8
      @rgaud8 3 года назад

      It’s an expensive car for people that can afford it. I think it’s fine if you’re looking at a car for a similar price, but the huge downside is lack of service. My boss got into an accident with his tesla (wasn’t his fault and the built in cameras proved it) and it took 2 months or so to get it fixed. I think that is currently the biggest drawback/risk to having a tesla. Once their infrastructure for repairs and service matures I think the upsides will outweigh the downsides.

  • @BobSchwartzsandiego
    @BobSchwartzsandiego 3 года назад +14

    Good video . . . But, what about the battery pack replacement cost down the line? I'm talking about your want to sell after 8/9 years, but, now the batter pack has MUCH less range & a HUGE cost to replace! Will this factor not affect the resale cost at that time? Also, what about your time wasted waiting at super chargers?

    • @VlikeInMewe
      @VlikeInMewe 2 года назад +1

      With a battery-pack degrading to about 80% of its capacity at about 300k miles, if you need to replace the battery pack, you have already used your vehicle for longer than most gas cars. If you compare cost between a tranny and engine replacement, you are at a comparable level (in price) to a battery replacement. If right to repair gains more steam, then we could be seeing cheaper repairs by third parties to squeeze some more life out of existing packs

    • @norwegianblue2017
      @norwegianblue2017 2 года назад +1

      @@VlikeInMewe I'll bet that 2008 Honda Fit was on original tranny and engine. My 10 year old Acura still runs like new, never needs anything but maintenance and consumables. Fully expect it to get 250k+ miles with no major issues.

    • @reasonablespeculation3893
      @reasonablespeculation3893 2 года назад

      What is the true cost of recycling a battery? Man hours, energy, tools and machinery.
      Cost of disposal PLUS $1000, needs to be factored into the initial price of the Car.
      The $1000 (which the car owner will receive from a qualified recycler, upon delivery of Car)
      is an incentive to do things properly... not just crush, bury, or ship off to Africa.

    • @tedferkin
      @tedferkin 2 года назад

      Also from what I understand is that Telsa is also selling individual cars at a loss. They make a profit from getting some kind of green rebate, either from the government or by selling "greenness" to other auto-manufacturers who don't do electric cars yet.

  • @girishthegreat
    @girishthegreat 3 года назад +27

    I considered Tesla, but in terms of features and driving range I found Honda CRV a much better value for money. CRV has very nice interiors and costs less than half.

    • @jkidd7608
      @jkidd7608 2 года назад

      Tesla interiors are poop. Incredibly bland especially if it's a Model 3. Some people are into that though and that's totally cool but I prefer the interiors of most gas cars. I love mine and my wife's VW interiors and dash. Much more intuitive and easier to use than Tesla's rely on the screen for everything take on things. I think once some other brands make cheaper and efficient EVs Tesla will be in a bit of trouble.

  • @rickywitherspoon2861
    @rickywitherspoon2861 3 года назад +14

    Hi Ryan, great video! Thank you for taking the time to breakdown your cost. I have one issue however and it's not just with your video but every price breakdown of owning a Tesla I've seen as well. People always say that the price of electricity is cheap and "around x cents per kw". Usually anywhere between 4 and 10. Yet I find that this is never the true cost. I own a model 3 and was surprised to see how much I was *actually* being charged from my utility company (this shock is also related to having my own house for the first time and constantly seeing the breakdown of a full electricity bill). What I see on the bill is that electricity is rated at around x center per kw (as everyone says) but the utility company also tacks on a bunch of extra charges, mainly "delivery". This shoots the true cost up to anywhere between 18 and 25 cents per kilowatt for me. I was so surprised that I asked some family and friends to send me their full electricity bill. This seems to happen all over from what I can tell. I've seen bills from MA, NH, CT, GA, and TX. Perhaps a video better explaining this would a good next topic for you to cover.

    • @rokask
      @rokask 3 года назад +2

      One more of those Murican mind-benders like price tags without tax on them

    • @anthonyaer8303
      @anthonyaer8303 2 года назад

      So YOU'RE that one black guy that drives a Tesla! I think I saw you the other day!

    • @bobhabib7662
      @bobhabib7662 2 года назад +3

      What you are experiencing is a rate hike in the cost of power. When the EPA decided coal power was bad, the only alternative was a more expensive source for your power. Since 2006, most people have seen a doubling in their electric rates. Add inflation to this cost and it looks even worse. It's most prominent in the NE since a lot of coal power was turned off in the NE.
      I would say I feel sorry for people eating these rates, but the reality is I don't. When you remove a cheap source of energy solely due to political activism, you get what you get. You're voting yourselves into poverty.

    • @rickschritt1616
      @rickschritt1616 2 года назад +2

      @@bobhabib7662 Good comments Bob , from up north in BC Canada , it's going to be many years , a much better more practical product before I would consider purchasing a electric car.

  • @TroySavary
    @TroySavary 3 года назад +60

    So, basically, to make it appear cheaper to own, he had to ignore some of the costs, include subsidies, and compare it to a BMW.

    • @animewatch4213
      @animewatch4213 3 года назад +10

      Lot of creative accounting to juice the numbers.

    • @Cheepchipsable
      @Cheepchipsable 3 года назад +4

      It was a fair comparison.
      Tesla is viewed as a luxury car. It had brand appeal.
      The initial cost and depreciation is the biggest chunk. This is why some cars are worth paying a higher price for because you can sell them for more later. Sure if he bought a similar sized car but cheaper, the money saved would probably pay for the fuel until he sold it.
      At the moment Teslas have high resale value compared to regular cars. Personally I think that is mainly due to the lack of availability. 10k to turn on a software feature and be a guinea pig is a rip off IMHO. Some dude used the auto park feature at the cars suggestion and Tesla told him "bad luck" when it failed and damaged the car.
      Of course, (I admit I skipped a lot of the video, hoping for a simple chart at the end), what price on convenience of recharging and range etc.
      It sounds like his car is more of a toy rather than used in a practical way most people use cars. 2 hours to "refuel" or 3 minutes?

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral 3 года назад +2

      He utterly skipped the home charger cost of ownership, but did cover the cost of electricity, and completely ignored the road taxes you pay in ICE cars which will 100% come to EV and already are reality in Norway making the cost of transport ~equal if the car cost upfront is equal in said country... Example: ~30mpg and each gallon has ~$0.50 in federal road taxes + local taxes. So, each mile driven has a TOLL(tax) of ~2c/mile and is even higher for diesel. Thus, his 14,000 miles driven will have an additional TAX of $280 that the government will 100% guaranteed get one way or another in either supercharging taxes/kWh, or in license plate taxes, or tabs or.... So, his $500 saved in fuel each year is in fact ~$200. Nothing to ignore, but not exactly a giant selling point.

    • @OldCharlieRum1903
      @OldCharlieRum1903 3 года назад +1

      And compare it to an expensive X3, when in reality the Model Y is more similarly matched to a cheaper X1.

    • @josephgittos3787
      @josephgittos3787 3 года назад +6

      @@OldCharlieRum1903 and the fact a Bmw will have better build quality. Some of the comments on forums and RUclips reviews showing bad paint jobs and panel gaps etc doesn't give great confidence in Tesla. I bet most people could pick up a Bmw x1 on the second market and afford it unlike a Tesla

  • @sabugdalantx
    @sabugdalantx 3 года назад +46

    Thanks, your Honda was not terrible because you got 200k miles out of it.

  • @allsportsexpert
    @allsportsexpert 2 года назад +17

    Have you calculated the time you need for charging at a supercharger instead of getting gas in 3 minutes on average? Of course, to be able to charge at home saves some time. What about the initial cost of an EV over a similar gas engine car?

    • @cmoniz905
      @cmoniz905 2 года назад +3

      Time is money. Many people do not equate those together.

    • @kevinpohlner2840
      @kevinpohlner2840 2 года назад +3

      If you have 30 minutes to an hour to hang out in a grocery store parking lot waiting for your battery to charge halfway, an electric car is for you.

    • @rickwhite9220
      @rickwhite9220 2 года назад +6

      @@kevinpohlner2840 not really,I'm not being a dick here but he has alrdy spent about 35 k more in 9 months 4 his Tesla than I have in 12 years 4 my edge just sayin

    • @Mr1T2X1
      @Mr1T2X1 2 года назад +2

      @@rickwhite9220 now one talks about the annual registration fees being significantly higher than annual gas registrations. Also, in years 2 and beyond, one would not have the rebates to reduce the annual cost.

    • @michaelgimenez4032
      @michaelgimenez4032 2 года назад +2

      @@kevinpohlner2840 That is assuming you have a station available for you to charge into... The more the EV market will develop the more "traffic" you will get on the charging stations. Like SW mentioned, a gas station is for a few minutes, less than 10 in worse case scenario while charging is far longer than that.

  • @jayfromaz
    @jayfromaz 3 года назад +4

    You're right. The numbers really work best when you're comparing a premium car of the same comprable price to the Tesla. Honda fit's are going for around $16,000 now. That's a big difference. Also you'd save a little bit uninsurance. Hopefully one day they will have an affordable electric car for the masses.

    • @poulwinther
      @poulwinther 2 года назад +1

      But the reality is that the Tesla ride, interior, comfort and quality feel is a longshot from the premium.

    • @BrianJones-rx9cq
      @BrianJones-rx9cq 2 года назад

      I personally ain’t looking forward to any electric vehicle

    • @omichaelnato5388
      @omichaelnato5388 2 года назад

      True my girlfriend has an 11 year old Honda Fit worth as much as she paid for it ($8,000 lol) over 5 years ago and it gets 30-40mpg. The insurance on these Tesla’s are insane so there’s no real cost saving or justification to have a car payment to save $100 in gas and pay more in insurance. It only makes sense if someone is already spending $50-70k on a vehicle and wants something that has a little bit of everything and will be cheap to run.
      I’ll get a model Y blacked out performance in like 2 years when everything settles down they’re phat

  • @Trumpetdude213
    @Trumpetdude213 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for the helpful breakdown. Definitely solidifies that I can't afford a nice vehicle like this for probably another 5 years or so.

    • @pioneer7777777
      @pioneer7777777 3 года назад +2

      There are other EV options out there that will not break the bank. Bolt, LEAF Plus, Model 3 SR+, Niro EV, and all of the used options as well.

    • @Trumpetdude213
      @Trumpetdude213 3 года назад

      @@pioneer7777777 thanks! I'll definitely look into it

  • @bassdojo
    @bassdojo 3 года назад +5

    Keep the tally for 5 years of ownership. When parts fail service and expense are through the roof!!!

    • @Coltn3125
      @Coltn3125 3 года назад

      You mean like in every car?

  • @JustinHall1976
    @JustinHall1976 2 года назад

    Solid video. Only issue is that the Model Y is not a luxury car, like the BMW. People treat it as such, but it's just not. It's definitely a premium EV, but that's the most accurate way to describe it.

  • @peterbland7227
    @peterbland7227 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video. My first new car was financed as well. I think it was a five year loan. We learned over time to save up and buy cars with cash, then keep them for ten years. You may benefit from reading Your Money Or Your Life, and then The Millionaire Next Door.

  • @meloapa
    @meloapa 3 года назад +77

    I would have given you $600 for the FIT. Reach out next time. ;)

    • @Reddylion
      @Reddylion 3 года назад +12

      I would have given $601 for the fit.😎

    • @patrickmaloney1810
      @patrickmaloney1810 3 года назад

      Have to factor in sales tax for private sale of the Fit.

    • @rman8910
      @rman8910 3 года назад +1

      $625 for your Fit

    • @nemesis656
      @nemesis656 3 года назад

      @@vinnieng1216 LOL right? that fit couldve probably gone to 350k

    • @driedbrainfreeze2149
      @driedbrainfreeze2149 3 года назад

      @@vinnieng1216 a Honda motor? No doubt about it

  • @DanielEndy2
    @DanielEndy2 3 года назад +7

    Dude, thanks for the interesting info, but ... I would not include the downpayment in full in the 9 month cost or I would do a second alternative where I would amortize the downpayment over the full number of months you plan to own the car. I would also suggest doing a lifetime average cost per month and year and comparing that to an ICE vehicle. I would even do a comparison for your Honda Fit (avg / mth over total life) and for the BMW X3. I have a Model Y that I'm due to take delivery of within the next week. I have owned 3 BMW 5s over the last 25 years. I buy them as they come off lease (to avoid the initial depreciation). The first one I had for almost 10 years and planned to get to 200k miles but I was forced to trade due to needing 2 big repairs that I was not going to pay for on a car that old. The next one lasted to 100k before the same scenario and the last one is at 75k and I'm bailing because of a $4,000+ set of needed repairs. Each has cost me more each year due to the shortening lifespans. I'm paying more for my model Y than I ever have for a vehicle but I expect to actually get to 10+ years and 200k+ miles this time with the only big expenses being tires, brakes, and possibly some suspension repairs due to wear. I calculate that this will be the least expensive vehicle -- n terms of the total cost of ownership per month -- that I have ever owned.

    • @christopherk.7094
      @christopherk.7094 3 года назад +1

      Same, I’ve owned quite a few BMWs, they’re the only cars I’ve purchased. I started with a 323i and progressed to 528iA, X5 and another X5. Traded in the 323 for the 5series, hydroplaned in the 5series, the air suspension went out in my first X5 leaving me with a lowered backside so I traded that in for my current X5 that’s having a repair bill of $5k and the Model Y is actually the least expensive vehicle to buy at this point. I would like to add though that all my BMWs achieved high mileage before having to come into high repair bills and I’ve owned them for some time. My current X5 is a 2012 and a friend wants to buy it from me at $8k because he only wants it to transport his grand daughter in 🤣😂 because he has a brand new Camaro.
      But I’m waiting on a few things to be added to the model Y before I order mine.

    • @DanielEndy2
      @DanielEndy2 3 года назад

      Christopher K. What are you looking forward to being added?

    • @irvinwright4075
      @irvinwright4075 3 года назад +1

      Looks like you would have, almost certainly, done a better job than he did.

    • @christopherk.7094
      @christopherk.7094 3 года назад +1

      @@DanielEndy2 the new center console and hoping heated steering wheel and really really hoping they surprise me with a magnetic suspension or something 😬 and the new unibody casting.

    • @dixonpinfold2582
      @dixonpinfold2582 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, the guy is a long way from being a proper accountant. Btw, the comment immediately above yours on my screen (from a "dalton knox") claims it will need a total battery replacement ($12,000 or $24,000, can't tell what he's trying to say) every 100k miles.
      This section is fizzing with hatred for Tesla. Just red-hot, fists-clenched, blurred-vision anger.

  • @jtit2025
    @jtit2025 3 года назад +9

    $500 for a fit! dude, you got ripped off. Should have sold it for $3-5k online.

    • @Ervinnd
      @Ervinnd 3 года назад

      No one would ever spend that much

  • @dougtemple6756
    @dougtemple6756 3 года назад +4

    Definitely very expensive not to burn gas, I'll go with a used one in a few years but they're still a depreciating asset

  • @alex140666
    @alex140666 3 года назад +1

    in NY it would cost ~$26 to charge model 3 standard range plus (263 miles) which is about the same you would spend to fill up a 2006 honda civic (390/520 city/highway miles). So buying a $70k car vs buying 3k car (in great condition). you can swap the whole engine for under $1k on honda civic or just buy another car vs paying $1k for a windshield.

  • @nephetula
    @nephetula 3 года назад +6

    If the self-driving upgrade is only software, it seems overly expensive.

    • @randocalrissian9217
      @randocalrissian9217 3 года назад

      It’s not just software if you include all the included cameras, radar, and r&d

  • @richardharwell
    @richardharwell 2 года назад +8

    How long do you expect to own the car ?
    I am interested to see a review at the 3 year and 5 year mark, if you keep this car that long.
    I usually keep my cars for 10 to 15 years.

    • @superstarcat7654
      @superstarcat7654 2 года назад

      That is five battery replacements. Yikes!

    • @cythose4059
      @cythose4059 2 года назад

      @@superstarcat7654 Lol what battery are you thinking of? triple AAA batteries? at worst he would need to change 2 times, and there are new batteries on the way

    • @superstarcat7654
      @superstarcat7654 2 года назад

      @@cythose4059
      I am going off of the Tesla batteries. Three years life for a battery, saying you want to keep the charge above 200 miles of a battery that new gives you 280 miles. And 250,000 to 280,000 miles total. And no one says how much using the heat and AC cuts into your mileage.

  • @atypocrat1779
    @atypocrat1779 3 года назад +5

    And what is your time worth sitting at a charger?

  • @chosenog692
    @chosenog692 3 года назад

    What it ultimately comes down to, if a person can afford it and wants to enjoy and splurge a bit in life? Why not, get your priorities set of course first, but after that if you got wiggle room and want to enjoy life? Do it, purchase what you want and do what you want. You don’t take your savings when you die

  • @warrenakatzmd7971
    @warrenakatzmd7971 2 года назад

    Arguably, the best and most articulate video description I have seen. Thanks.

  • @WilliamChan
    @WilliamChan 3 года назад +8

    This made me nervous about not including glass damage coverage in my insurance policy...

    • @JC-zw4bw
      @JC-zw4bw 3 года назад +1

      My Toyota was also only $170 to replace whole window.

    • @teri3131
      @teri3131 3 года назад

      I have a 2017 Honda Civic...luckily windshield replacement is zero out of pocket with my insurance (Plymouth Rock).

  • @wakawaka1976
    @wakawaka1976 2 года назад +3

    Once we get 40% electric, electricity prices will triple minimum especially in California.

  • @phonghandle
    @phonghandle 3 года назад +13

    I charge my car at home for 4 cent/kwh( included all the fees).

  • @pkalakhan1851
    @pkalakhan1851 2 года назад +1

    Please include life cycle costs. We own cars over decades and I am interested in cost to change batteries every ten years. The other analysis is how often should you buy and sell.

  • @fredfrond6148
    @fredfrond6148 2 года назад

    The NCM battery is expensive. Wuling Hongwan, 300 km NEDC range, very small 4 seater. You either get a trunk or 4 seats for two adults and two kids in the back. Cost $5500 in China. Made by a joint venture between Wuling GM and SAIC.

  • @rlstrad2059
    @rlstrad2059 3 года назад +5

    Ryan, very frank and detailed breakdown, and like the lessons learned regarding loan and insurance too.

  • @colinclarkemanofalltrades
    @colinclarkemanofalltrades 3 года назад +134

    as the old saying goes , a fool and his money are easily parted.

    • @richardshane456
      @richardshane456 3 года назад +3

      Elon goes to Larry, hey man would you float me a couple of billion until my company actually starts to return a profit?
      Larry "Fuk No, you moron, dreaming about your futuristic reality!"

    • @romanplays1
      @romanplays1 3 года назад +4

      @@richardshane456 it has been turning a profit for about a year and 3 months by now..

    • @richardshane456
      @richardshane456 3 года назад +4

      @@romanplays1 you think or you know
      He's a smart smooth move he leveraged a lot of people to create an asset allowing him to seek his vision I don't take anything from him about that
      My concern is being disingenuous about a product that has just been put on the global stage as a possible cure all
      Let me see the books and I'll determine if he's made a profit from the sales of his products and services not from promoting stocks and bonds and all the other beneficiaries of monetary quantitation
      Ty
      Good luck on your endeavors
      Peace and love always

    • @richardshane456
      @richardshane456 3 года назад +1

      @@ChrisRGB how about a link to Tesla and subsidiaries for a peek in to the financial liquidity of this corporation...???

    • @TrisjensChronicles1203
      @TrisjensChronicles1203 3 года назад +1

      @@romanplays1 CEO since 2009 I believe and he was burning thru money at a loss for years. Almost went under, so turning a profit for about a year and 3 months now is not impressive to me bud. Here’s the real question: Can Tesla sustain themselves in this type of market? We will see soon enough.

  • @stlchucko
    @stlchucko 3 года назад +8

    $900 every 6 months for insurance is insane to me. I pay $165 every 6 months for liability on my truck. I pay $120 annually for full coverage on my motorcycle. Full coverage on a brand new ZL1 Camaro is $625 for me.
    With as few miles as I drive, the savings from buying electric instead of fuel doesn’t offset the cost of insurance for me, let alone the price of the car itself.

    • @BlackhawkPilot
      @BlackhawkPilot 3 года назад +1

      My Mercedes EV is lower in insurance costs than my last Mercedes diesel.

  • @AH-mj1rd
    @AH-mj1rd 2 года назад

    I paid 3k for a crown Vic, cash. Still driving it after 8 years, spend 500 on has per month, 50 on insurance, and 80 on oil change every 6 months. No issues

  • @EELinneman
    @EELinneman 3 года назад +1

    Your charging costs do not factor in the loss of power through conversion. The values for the supercharger and your home charging will be different.

  • @kazukinakamura1110
    @kazukinakamura1110 3 года назад +8

    $19k in 9mo? What a great savings.

  • @ngenes1
    @ngenes1 3 года назад +18

    Wow, I have 250k miles on my Tacoma with a monthly cost of 200/mo. Gas and full coverage insurance included. Almost bought the performance model Y and realize this makes no sense other than owning a luxury item. I invest 1-2k/ mo more on stocks and dividends every month. That’s my way of going green. ; )

    • @tigerbeck
      @tigerbeck 3 года назад +2

      Same. And as much as folks love to say Tesla’s are luxury cars they aren’t that nice. Even a fully loaded S is about as opulent as a base Mercedes.

    • @RjTheTrigun
      @RjTheTrigun 3 года назад +1

      I am with you buddy, I reserved the cybertruck and immediately started investing $600/month. I'm driving 99maxima and happy with it. I already know there's a 50% chance I probably won't end up getting the cybertruck but wanted my place in line just incase.

    • @JimBobe
      @JimBobe 3 года назад

      Smart man!

  • @rickhalas
    @rickhalas 3 года назад +30

    You know it's a Tesla 'mania' when a reasonable, sane $500 Honda Fit owner thinks it's a good financial decisions to buy a $63,000 new car to get around town.

    • @ed2277
      @ed2277 3 года назад +4

      I don't think buying the Tesla was smart. Use that money to invest in something and keep using the fit. I mean, the paint job of the Tesla alone costs more than the Fit.

    • @robertpolkamp
      @robertpolkamp 3 года назад

      He could have purchased 2 brand new Honda Fit.

  • @MegaBpop
    @MegaBpop 3 года назад

    Holy cow!! His car payments are super high!! Some financial experts say you should not buy or finance a car that is more than 50% of your annual gross income.he seems very happy with his Tesla. Thank You for the video.

  • @SirSteveFury
    @SirSteveFury 2 года назад

    The best monetary strategy is to keep driving the same car for the life of the vehicle. In many cases that means 10-15 years or more and +300K miles. Compare the cost for repair of an out-of-warranty EV that requires a new battery ($10-15K) or a comparable ICE vehicle that needs a new engine ($3-5K).

  • @bradyb9929
    @bradyb9929 3 года назад +8

    They’re great but a 55k electric car vs a 25k gas car with the same features is a deal breaker for me.

    • @vasileiospetropoulos2046
      @vasileiospetropoulos2046 3 года назад

      I agree

    • @NotTubeIm
      @NotTubeIm 3 года назад +4

      Hey this Ford Model T thing is nice and all but it doesn't have as good of a bench cushion as my horse wagon so I'll pass.

    • @glibsonoran
      @glibsonoran 3 года назад +3

      Depends on which features you find attractive. Over the air software updates, acceleration, overall handling, glass roof, sophistication of infotainment system, gas mileage (vs equivalent gas mileage), driver assistance/self driving are not going to be the same.

    • @chelsiestinson9494
      @chelsiestinson9494 3 года назад +1

      Your gas car also loses 1/2 its value when you drive it off the lot...lol good luck getting any kind of money back when you trade in for your next one.

    • @chelsiestinson9494
      @chelsiestinson9494 3 года назад +1

      Which gas car has the same features as Tesla for 25k?

  • @richardshane456
    @richardshane456 3 года назад +50

    The Tesla symbol is really an anchor when you turn it upside down to payments that you surely will not enjoy

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q 3 года назад

      They also depreciate rapidly toward the end of the warranty. The battery packs and drive units will fail by the 10 year mark making the car useless. Gas cars last 25 years on a average. The additional insurance will be more than the gas savings, not to mention tires are very expensive.

  • @animestarlord9021
    @animestarlord9021 3 года назад +4

    I like to buy 10 plus year old cars for $3000. I fix them myself, drive for 10 years for about $3000 in repairs. Not sure how buying new cars saves any $.

    • @williamconrad1087
      @williamconrad1087 3 года назад

      It doesn’t save money in your case buy it saves time, which some people value more than money.

    • @animestarlord9021
      @animestarlord9021 3 года назад +1

      @@williamconrad1087 For some folks I guess that may be true. Being that I used to work on cars for a living it does not take me as long as most folks either. Hours wise I may spend two days a year doing everything. Brakes, bearings, belts, gaskets etc. Giving up a few days time to save thousands is a great trade off for me but not everyone I guess.

    • @markbeiser
      @markbeiser 3 года назад

      I used to do that, as I've driven company vehicles for 30 years, so don't rely on a personal vehicle to get to work.
      Then I realized I'd rather not die horribly in an accident in a cool old car, that I would walk away from/avoid in a boring modern car with the latest safety tech.
      I live in a major metropolitan area where virtually every trip involves a freeway, and it only takes one distracted idiot to change/end your life...

    • @hasletjoe5984
      @hasletjoe5984 3 года назад

      @@williamconrad1087 Sitting for hours a year waiting on battery to charge? And with the Cali electric grid, they may have a bigger issue.

  • @willycsjr
    @willycsjr 2 года назад +2

    I’m curious on your upgraded suspension. What the name of your aftermarket shocks, Where did you find the data to upgrade, Where did you go, what was the cost and how do you like it?

  • @AdrianBawn
    @AdrianBawn 2 года назад +1

    US Energy and fuel prices are depressing. In the UK I'm currently paying just under 19p/kwh which is roughly 25c/kwh. And once my fixed price tariff runs out later this year, its currently looking like its going to go up to over 24p (32c) per kwh. Given we, as a country, are supposed to be going 100% electric in the next decade, we are certainly trying our best to shoot that idea in the foot.

  • @liamsism
    @liamsism 3 года назад +5

    Imagine paying $1k per month and seeing how people bumping their doors into your tesla on a parking lot. I'd add some cost for therapist sessions.

  • @davejohn255
    @davejohn255 3 года назад +44

    oof, you lost me at financing 52K...

    • @mike-sk2li
      @mike-sk2li 3 года назад +4

      That's a decent older home where I'm from!

    • @spuffvermon
      @spuffvermon 3 года назад

      52k car loan on 6 years straight blows my mind. When he finally owns this thing it may be a 7 year old car. Depending on wether or not the next model year is out. Talking about its current blue book value will mean nothing then. It's just going to be another out of warranty 7 year old Tesla worth little to nothing. These numbers are insanely irresponsible.

    • @daveinpublic
      @daveinpublic 3 года назад

      @@spuffvermon People will be driving around in Cybertrucks and he new models and he'll still be paying $800 a month. Needless to say, I'm glad people are buying Model Ys, it's the only way that Tesla will make it, but dang that was some sticker shock. And that was before he 'upgraded' his insurance.

  • @paulrobidoux6707
    @paulrobidoux6707 3 года назад +4

    You’ve been a great influence in my introduction to Tesla. I paid my $2,500 down payment for a RWD Long Range Model Y in January, but modified it last month to a AWD Y in red also. I opted to pass on induction wheels based on reports of tire damage, and don’t need (IMHO) FSD, but did add the hitch. I’m expecting delivery this month, and already have a home charger from my stint with a Kia Soul EV, so I’m super excited. Thanks for all the outstanding reporting and guidance this past year.

  • @billhunsinger862
    @billhunsinger862 3 года назад

    I just ordered a Model 3 ER. Wells Fargo rate is 2.49% but when I used my MAC Numbers formula it comes out to be 2.53%. The down payment is $576 the principal is $49,000.
    I changed the loan down to 5 years. My Investment account returns 4.4% so I will be paying the loan off with inflated cheaper dollars. NJ has no sales tax and gives a $5000 rebate.
    the cost per mile comes out to the same as my 3.5 yr Volt.

  • @sportbikeguy00
    @sportbikeguy00 2 года назад +1

    EV are still just expensive novelties for the well-off, I'll be impressed when an EV can charge as fast as I can refuel an internal combustion vehicle, have the same range and can be serviced at any local shop.

  • @artownend
    @artownend 3 года назад +4

    And I was so close to buying an EV! Thanx for giving my head a shake!

    • @getoffamylan6844
      @getoffamylan6844 3 года назад

      Last year I got a year-old Nissan Leaf for 20K and I love it. The EV market is not just Teslas.

    • @thehawk5141
      @thehawk5141 3 года назад

      No matter. 10 years from you will be forced into buying one. They are the wave of the future.

  • @johntonge9818
    @johntonge9818 3 года назад +35

    The money you saved on electricity over gas does not even cover one payment!

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral 3 года назад +3

      He utterly skipped the home charger cost of ownership, but did cover the cost of electricity, and completely ignored the road taxes you pay in ICE cars which will 100% come to EV and already are reality in Norway making the cost of transport ~equal if the car cost upfront is equal in said country... Example: ~30mpg and each gallon has ~$0.50 in federal road taxes + local taxes. So, each mile driven has a TOLL(tax) of ~2c/mile and is even higher for diesel. Thus, his 14,000 miles driven will have an additional TAX of $280 that the government will 100% guaranteed get one way or another in either supercharging taxes/kWh, or in license plate taxes, or tabs or.... So, his $500 saved in fuel each year is in fact ~$200. Nothing to ignore, but not exactly a giant selling point.

    • @LBrisk01
      @LBrisk01 3 года назад

      @@w8stral in America, road taxes are assessed on gas and license tags. He included the cost of gas savings and registration fees in his calculations so theyre accounted for. There is no separate road tax he needed to add.

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral 3 года назад

      @@LBrisk01 You think the roads will magically pay for themselves? Ah, socialist roads, will steal $$$ from others eh? No, roads do not magically pay for themselves. Just like Norway the government will start taxing the Hell out of EV's as the roads must be paid for. So, my calculation is correct. You MUST account for road taxes in your calculation for your long term EV ownership as Norway has already shown, Government ALWAYS gets their taxes. Playing make believe that you can ignore the road taxes in the US is pathetic.

    • @LBrisk01
      @LBrisk01 3 года назад

      @@w8stral lol you need to relax, you completely missed what I said. The taxes are in gas and they are in the registration fees paid to the state. He said he paid the title and registration fees when he got the car. Roads are also paid for by local property taxes as well, you miss that in your original comment?

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral 3 года назад

      @@LBrisk01 Ah, you wish to play make believe that taxes for roads, from which greater than 50% come directly from gasoline/diesel taxes will not come from EV's... uh huh. Genius alert: they will.

  • @craig5042
    @craig5042 3 года назад +4

    Good video. I'm weary of the KBB trade-in value though. Will Tesla take back one of their cars as a trade-in say wanted to upgrade to a new model S, X or 3? How much would Tesla give you for the Model Y? I think it would be good for viewers to share what they were offered if anyone has successfully traded in any model Tesla for either a new Tesla or a conventional car to see how accurate KBB's Trade-In Value calculation is. I learned a lot. Thanks for taking time to make this.

  • @paulbroderick8438
    @paulbroderick8438 2 года назад +1

    Very up front presentation. The monthly payment is mind blowing. To me, the touchscreen is a pure put off

  • @GRC7769
    @GRC7769 3 года назад

    Need to update to include not paying gas tax which is what is used to pay for roads. EV drivers are now being charged this tax in some states.

  • @niceboy60
    @niceboy60 3 года назад +11

    The Word" Fuel savings" should be Banned from any car which costs close to 70,000 bucks
    .
    I mean Paying around $900 a month ( FOR 72 MONTHS ) and Bragging about Saving $55 on fuel common 😳
    You got to be kidding me 🤦

  • @johnl.8616
    @johnl.8616 3 года назад +30

    So Tesla is wayyyyy to expensive right now. I'll stick with gas.

    • @adrianb6073
      @adrianb6073 3 года назад +5

      Spending a dollar to save a dime.

    • @LordLoMR2
      @LordLoMR2 3 года назад +4

      The EV doesn’t need to be a Tesla. You could get a used Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt/etc and reap the benefits of EV.

    • @LordLoMR2
      @LordLoMR2 3 года назад +2

      @@adrianb6073 actually it’s a lot more than that. I used to drive 40,000 miles per year. On gas the bill was around $500 per month. When I bought my Tesla, cost of electricity was only $100 per month driving the same mileage. $6000 vs $1200 per year is pretty significant in my opinion.

    • @adrianb6073
      @adrianb6073 3 года назад +4

      @ Turbocharged Dude. The 3853 KWh he used to drive 14,164 miles would have cost the average person (*.15 cents/KWh) $578. Using a 30 mpg gas car would have cost them $944 in fuel. He spent $62K to save $366 per year in fuel. Now it’s a nice car, don’t get me wrong, but it’s NOT financially justifiable. We do lots of things that are not financially justifiable, it’s OK but “own it”.

    • @dillonh321
      @dillonh321 3 года назад

      @@adrianb6073
      1. Average electricity cost in the us is actually $.13.
      2. Sounds like he has had his tesla for a while so he most likely has the free supercharging, which is free electricity.

  • @biovmr
    @biovmr 3 года назад +4

    Over time, as more EVs take over the roads, something will need to replace the lost revenue from gasoline taxes. I suspect (strongly) this will be higher registration fees for EVs. As long as it's still cheaper to have the EV, it's fine (something has to pay for the roads...)

    • @nafnaf0
      @nafnaf0 3 года назад +1

      I agree, it is only fair to pay higher registration costs to offset the cost of not paying gas tax. Those dollars better actually go to maintaining and building the roads though

    • @aaronmorgan2476
      @aaronmorgan2476 2 года назад

      @@nafnaf0 they won't. But you will certainly pay more lol.

  • @lyricaltraveller
    @lyricaltraveller 2 года назад +1

    My 2020 chevy malibu costs me $450 a month. I got it with a trade in that I was upside down on around $2,000. Insurance is $49 a month with home and auto bundle. It get's 35 mpg. With gas being over $5 a gallon at present, it's costing me $52 to fill it up. I fill it up on average once every two weeks. So I am spending a little over $120 a month in gas. So over the course of 9 months I will be spending $5,571.00 total to have my car. Compared to your $16, 218.58, I'm living high on the hog. On top of that, your Tesla batteries will last around 50,000 miles until they are junk and will need replacing which will cost you about the entire cost of a car. On the other hand, my malibu will last around 200,000 miles with good maintenance. And any repairs I will have to do, will not cost me nearly as much as a new set of telsa batteries. While running your car on electric produces 0 emissions, the electric you use to charge it comes from a power station that produces more emissions to create that electricity than more than 80% of the gas cars in your area produces.

  • @glennm449
    @glennm449 2 года назад

    I paid $18,500 for a certified used 3 year old 2017 Toyota Prius with 33,000 miles. I get 450-500 miles per tank of gas, which is a 11 gallon tank. $3.50 per gallon x 8 gallons = $28 dollars. I also got 4 years of free oil changes negotiated into my car purchase at a Toyota dealership. Toyota recommends an oil change every 10,000 miles with a Prius. This equates to 4 years of not having to pay for any oil changes. The average cost of an oil change is about $50 dollars on an ongoing basis per year after year 4. In addition, I pay $85 dollars for full insurance coverage per month for a Prius with a $250 dollar deductible. Due to the price being $18,500 for the car, I paid cash thus did not pay for any finance charges (interest) resulting hundreds of dollars in interest savings. Also, the cost to replace tires on a Prius is approx. $130 dollars per tire or $520 for four tires every 5-8 years. Also, brakes on a prius last on average 100,000 miles due to regenerative breaking, the Prius doesn't have a starter motor, no alternator, no serpentine belts, has an electric AC compressor, an electric water pump, spark plugs are changed every 100-120K miles, coolant is changed about 100-120K miles and engine air filter is replaced annually along with the cabin air filter being changed annually. The thousands of dollars I am savings over paying for a Tesla is literally funding my kid's 529 College Savings Plan as well as their UGMA investment fund. Buying a Tesla is a terrible financially decision simply due to the initial acquisition cost, insurance and maintenance for the items you will need to replace like tires. Cars are depreciating liabilities. Buy assets that make you money, not liabilities that take or depreciate your money.