The Destruction Of Carthage: Why Ancient Rome Feared Their Great Rival | Carthage | Timeline
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Carthage was Rome's equal, rival and almost her conqueror. In 146 BC Roman general Scipio destroyed the city of Carthage so painstakingly and utterly that not a single building was left standing.
What did the Romans so fear about the Carthaginians that in the end they would be prompted to the most terrible acts of reprisal in the ancient world? A new archaeological dig by Dr Richard Miles of Cambridge University, penetrates the burned layer of this Roman holocaust and uncovers fresh evidence.
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There is a close battle that the Prophet Muhammad told us about is the battle of Dabiq, it is an area near the Levant in Palestine, where the battlefield will be between the Romans and Muslims. Romanians, Westerners or Easters, for example, are they currently from Europe, America or Russia, but according to the opinion of scholars and researchers, some agreed that what is meant is uncle from Russia and what proves this blame, they control the Middle East because the Islamic caliphate is not established to defend the Arabs and Muslims
It would have been cooled if the host was dressed up as a Roman soldier.
@Cornelia Fulmore 5t⁰
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Why do you keep showing the statue of Constantine over and over again? He was born 500 years after the Punic wars
He is a millennial SJW. Everything he believes must be taken with a grain of salt.
Agree>!
Raymond DeFlaviis um. What
alien cat 😂
@@raymonddeflaviis9532 Raymond, you are an ignorant cretin
When Rome said something needs to be destroyed they really meant it.
Donald Trump, the Death Cult President, is trying to do the same. Unfortunately for him, he’s in the wrong country.
@@yolamontalvan9502 You're a weirdo
@@yolamontalvan9502 imagine thinking about trump 24/7. He's your whole life. Rent free
1994CPK - Trump is in the 6 o’clock news every day. Do you watch the news?
@@yolamontalvan9502 never cable news, this isn't the 1960s anymore.
A bit simplistic. Rome as the evil thugs versus Carthago as the noble victim. At the end of the day they were two major powers fighting over the same territory.
I agree.
Carthage might have been imperialist as well, but Rome was no doubt a ruthless, savage empire. There is no comparison between the two.
One is able to make this judgement only if you examine the world history in comparison, comparing and contrasting various societies.
@@parjanyashukla176,Rome was remembered as ruthless only because they won all 3 wars, but what would have happened if they had lost? In Carthage, there was children sacrifice for the sake of the harvest, unlike the ancient Rome
@@jonnyanderson8845Even without the Punic Wars, Rome was ruthless. Look at Gaul and Britain. Rome had no tolerance for religious or cultural freedoms. Unlike the Phoenician empire.
A lot of what we know about child sacrifice came from Rome. Besides, what difference does it make since Rome deleted every Cartagena child in the end.
@@jonnyanderson8845 Rome was barbaric
Someone needs to make a film series about the the Punic Wars.
Or Hannibal crossing the alps!
I think Sean Kingston should do the series. Last i heard he was at war.
There is one. I watched it on youtube a couple years ago. If i come across it I'll holla.
@@hrthrhs Any luck locating it?
There is one
How anyone can talk about Hannibal in Italy without covering the battle of Cannae is beyond me.
Rome's worse defeat ever, about 60,000 killed (in one day of battle.) Hannibal was a military genius.
Best to watch this first: "Hannibal: The Man Who Hated Rome"; it's all there.
@Where Is Waldo My favorite, In time when beat Hanibal he been just 23 years old I thing.
Hannibal was Phoenician, from Carthage.
@@samray3297 Scipius Africanus
I love how the phrase "Delenda est Carthago" is constantly switched around (i.e. Carthago delenda est) by historians. Everyone agrees Cato said it about one million times, but nobody can agree on what order this 3 word sentence goes in.
I might be wrong but I think Latin is a highly inflected language so it means the same thing no matter the order
That being said, true
Yeah I've wondered loads of times.
I thought order didn't matter.
Latinae Carthago Est.
LMAO at the people in the comments saying this doc is "biased," that's the whole point -- traditionally we always get the Roman version, which is just as biased. Let the man tell the other side for once
yeah well everything this doc said is actually facts, yet people used to Roman version, but there was a roman governor of carthage after the war kinda liked carthage and said it was wrong to erase carthage from history, he revolted against his emperor and took his place, he orderd the reconstruction of carthage and to write down whats known about the original carthage yet the roman version is itselfe biased, but thanks to other civilizations like greece and others confirmed or denied the stories and who kept whats known about carthage. yet history is written by victors .
FEZZ_HH
And that governed would’ve had flawed info as well, because to revolt against an emperor (not a republic) he’d had to of done it at least 100 years after Carthage’s erasion
@@tadhgknight3484 Exactly, Erasing something then trying to tell it with another way wont be the same, THEY even tried to rebuild Carthage and wasnt even close to the original one.
I don't mind the bias but there are some bits where the bias borders on unfactual. I.e. calling rome imperial when rome was far from an empire and and calling Cato a xenophobe when I have never heard anything to support he cared about race.
@@lucasstemba xenophobia isn't about race, it's hating what is foreign. Imperialism, pure and simple, is invading other territories to profit from them as well as imposing your culture on the occupied areas, and that's what Rome was about since day 1.
as a Tunisian I'm proud of my heritage and history , thank you for this
@@inri247 a significant part of Ancient Carthage is now in modern day Tunisia
@@inri247Carthage is Tunis 😅
@@barcak1912 he is referring to the ethnicity of the people not the geography.. genetically speaking modern day lebanese is the closer you got to the carthaginians!
@@barcak1912 turks have a bunch of ancient greek stuff in their country so that suddenly makes them greek?
@@wankawanka3053 pardon me, I thought that he was talking about the culture that flourished in his country not in terms of ethnicity
When Carthage failed to take over Sicily it signed its own long term Death Warrant - for without Sicily Carthage would lack population (farming citizen-soldier population). The move from a citizen army (mentioned by Aristotle - in the old days no one could vote in Carthage unless they had first undertaken military service), to a mercenary army that could defeat Rome in battles - but never, in the end, in a war. The Carthaginians had been appalled by their losses in the wars with the Greeks in Sicily - but, by trying to avoid losses (by turning away from a citizen-soldier culture) the Carthaginians made sure that, in the end, their losses would be TOTAL.
Ironically the Romans themselves turned away from a culture of citizen soldiers - thus signing its own long term Death Warrant.
That may be, but the disasters in the Cimbri wars exposed the weakness of the militia system and led to the Marian reforms.
@@Charlie-ii5rr Yup. Professionals will always be superior to citizen-soldiers. They key is keeping the generals loyal...
But the problems with soldiers who work only as soldiers, their loyalty not always for the motherland or fatherland, but with who pay the salary and guarantee their or their family life, which is general or just who pay them handsomely.
The Carthaginians were hated by the Greeks long before the Romans entered the scene. The Punic were seen as an evil race. Some of it comes from their (occasional) human sacrifices, which both the Romans and the Greeks had in disgust, but there's more. For example, sentencing your best general to crucifixion just because he's too popular with his mercenary troops after a victorious campaign in the name of Carthage. It happened more than once. Even the great Hannibal, he went to exile not because of the Romans but because the Carthaginian senate really were a crazy ungrateful untrustworthy bunch.
Now that I think of it, I know of another crazy bunch like that: the Venitians. These merchant people just don't play by the rules.
(I have great admiration for Carthage, I just like to play the devil's advocate.)
That is the romain misinformation ! for greeks you should read politics written by aristotle chapter 8. Carthaginians had war with greeks but olso treaties
"Occasional" human sacrifices? What about the 20,000 clay jars of burnt infants left behind in Carthage? Carthage was destroyed, but the Phoenicians had cities all over the Mediterranean coastlines. Then the Phoenician alphabet (modified) was in Rome. Then the Phoenician survivors fled to Venice and Genoa. Before they were known as Phoenicians, they lived in present-day Lebanon and we're called Caanites. Same folks, still no better behaved.
One of the nastiest things the Venetians ever did was pitching in on the capture of Constantinople in 1204 in what was supposed to be the 4th Crusade.
They sacked & pillaged Constantinople of anything of value, much of it going to Venice where those golden horses (still on display in Venice) were given to the "dogie".......one of the biggest traitors ever to Western Civilization, right behind the No. 1 traitor.......big Nick Ducas of Byzantium (1071 AD).
..."fides punica"...
It seems as if every foreign nation disliked the Phoenicians. The Ancient Israelites despised them, conquered them in Canaan (which was modern-day Israel/Palestine) and founded Israel.
Hannibal didn´t take Rome because he knew it would be impossible to subdue such a city with the army he had under his command. Even if he entered it the population was simply to big to effectively subdue.
“This isn’t some schmuck in a flak jacket” is the *funniest* thing I’ve ever heard
When/where was that said?
Lol this guy tells history this way:
"Carthage were minding their business happily making money of their trade routes and singing along in camp fires, while suddenly, a greedy, violent evil monster without scruples rose up to steal and kill them all...a monster named...Rome!"
Pretty much.
Another young white indoctrinated to loath western civilization and prop up any inferior culture or society as the greatest in history. It wasn't history, but rather cheerleading.
YES ROME WAS A MONSTER
@@matiusbond6052 just like any other civilization at the time by today standards...they were just better at it than the rest
Rome is monster cuz it ruined the all city and architects of carthage
A 15 year campaign in Rome. That's literally enough time for boys to grow up to become soldiers, more than enough time to create entire new armies consisting of a new generation of soldiers. Hannibal's own soldiers would have started to hit middle-age at the end of the Italian campaign. There was no way Hannibal was ever going to defeat Rome by himself after that length of time.
Thats right, technically after cannae, Hannibal suffered heavy losses and he calculated that even if hen tried sieging Rome another army would be assembled to end him for good. His men were very low on morale and exhausted, Rome just kept on sending armies, sadly even if we would make excuses, Carthage and Hannibal could not have winned the 2nd punic war.
England and France had a war that lasted 116 years although called 100 year war.
@@hydrolito😂❤
Each boat was marked
*ίκεα*
Peter Walker
I have finally reached that part of the presentation.. and I finally understand your comment, which I read as it started.😂
No.
That joke cracked up me. Thanks man :)
Έλα άλλος ένας Έλληνας 🤭😂🇬🇷
There is a close battle that the Prophet Muhammad told us about is the battle of Dabiq, it is an area near the Levant in Palestine, where the battlefield will be between the Romans and Muslims. Romanians, Westerners or Easters, for example, are they currently from Europe, America or Russia, but according to the opinion of scholars and researchers, some agreed that what is meant is uncle from Russia and what proves this blame, they control the Middle East because the Islamic caliphate is not established to defend the Arabs and Muslims
As a Tunisian, it warms my heart to find such beautiful documentaries acknowledging the greatness of the Carthaginian civilisation. Great upload, you got yourselves a new subscriber! :)
It was great! But weren't they completely eradicated? If so, what is your connection to them?
there is no connection....as usual trying to take credit for the real civilizations that preceeded them for eg persia,egypt etc
Tunisia's cool, of what I know.....Wisconsin USA.
maxyakov she is more connected to them than you can ever be.
maxyakov If you paid attention to the documentary, it said that around 50,000 of them were spared and were enslaved by the romans. In any case, even if I'm not a direct descendant of the Carthaginians, they are still a big part of our history.
JALJ3011 Wow, I never knew you were the official authority on "real civilizations".. I do believe historians and archeologists wouldn't be bothered studying a "fake civilization" now, would they? But I wonder how this "taking credit" you're talking about happens, even though the civilizations you mentioned took place year and miles away from the Carthage/Rome incident. Remember, we're talking about the west Mediterranean here.
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Nah it's just this douche adding in too many of them
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Imagine if morgz mad this video
I pay for RUclips. Cheap money. I barely watch TV though so I may have a different opinion than many on here.
Fast forward rewinde & walaaas
Would it not have made sense for Carthage to see the writing on the wall, pledge allegiance to Rome and become a prosperous city-state within the Roman Empire? They could have kept their culture that way while also assimilating the best parts of Roman sophistication.
No context at all is provided, I don't believe Rome would invest that much money and manpower to destroy a large city on another continent for no reason at all.
After two wars against Carthage the Romans realized the necessity of it's destruction, Rome had come to view it as an existential threat that could not be tolerated.
How long after the scenario that you propose would it take for Carthage to rebuild and once again seize an opportunity to challenge Rome? there was room for only one dominant power in the mediterranean.
I can't get enough of Timeline on Rome. Well done
Timeline left out the influence of the ancient Greek colonies throughout the Mediterranean and their interaction with Rome and Italy as well as the Hellenistic influence on both Rome and Carthage. I was hoping to see a lot more in terms of Carthage's founding and early development.
The current senate house was built a century after the Punic wars, so it is wrong to claim Cato spoke from those benches.
Yes, I think that's the Curia Julia that was started during Caesar's dictator years but not completed until after his death in 44 BCE. The previous one was nearly on the same spot though.
You love Carthaginians, you love history and your commentary is excellent. Thanks.
And now let us switch over to the history experts in the comment section:
My 23andme test results line up with everything I've been studying about carthage and the Pheonicians. My last name is Cartagena, and as a Christian, I also learned about the dark practices of the Pheonicians, like Jezebel for example, and can tell that my ancestors may have also dabbled in dark practices. Learning all of this is so eye-opening and refreshing.
You understand that the Roman Emperor Constatine (the guy that established the Religion) and his Priests made edits to the texts and the Roman Religion isn't what Jesus/Yeshua was teaching + he was a Practicing Jew and a Rabbi.
It takes the History of the era, and an open mind + time to explore.
Just your choice, to be Religion or to search for what Jesus taught.
Either way, as long as you have clarity, are positively supported by your beliefs, and realize your self worth, ✓
Positive is absent of fear.
Religion and then there's our personal, spiritual, experience and practice. Religion is organized and established by man, your spiritual is your direct link to God, Creator, Source of all.
Take your time and trust your intuition and logic. Jesus will Guide you to what you seek, just ask and trust.
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Most of your ancestors lived long before Jesus was born. Whatever happened to your ancestors, they were doing the best the could with whatever tools they had. The reputation they received came from the people who stood to gain from it. People in those times loved to embellish themselves compared to "the others" - savages, barbarians etc. Carthaginians did the same to Rome.
In 1996,almost 2,100 years of Punic Wars,a symbolic peace treaty was signed between the mayor of Rome and Tunis where Carthage was under a district jurisdiction marked the end of rivalry of 2 cities even it was changed on the time but also Italy and Tunisia are allies
So did Athens and Sparta 2,000+ years after the whole issue
@@isaiahcalderon366 Yes that same year a peace treaty was signed between the mayors of Athens and Sparta, both in modern day Greece 🇬🇷
I think they gave up to soon
@@garybergamo6440 Yeah 😊😊
Tell me this dude hates Rome without telling me he does
Carthage still so salty
I know. To this day you still can't even talk to one of them about it wink face
golden shadow Well, from heavenly wealthy might that dominated the mediterranea to erased among civilisations. What would you expect.
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And peppery too but I prefer mustard
I live in Carthage now and sometimes i think how would this place would be if they beat the romans .
4:43 Damn that sounds so cool It makes you sad about Carthage too
@Dan Dman it was burnt for 18 days they say
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Carthage let itself be destroyed, they were too modern for their own good.
38:45 Boat named "Hannibal" , that's awesome.
Phil Tanics why
I didn't know Robert Webb presented history docs
Hannibal at Cannae?? I was staggered that for a presenter eager to tell the Carthaginian story he barely mentioned Hannibal’s incredible military supremacy in winning all battles in Europe including his total annihilation of the Romans at Cannae! It was arguably the most brilliant, and bloody victory by any military leader in the ancient world and ranks up there with Alexs victory against Darius at Guagemala and against Porus at Hydaspes. Hannibal’s only defeat was at Zama, supported by the treachery of his own people.
Pulsonar This wasn’t written by a historian.
Porus didn’t lose to Alexander, that is a lie
Morgoth The Real MVP Alexanders Macedonian army and Indian allies defeated King Porus in 326 BC at the Hydapses River. This is not propaganda it is fact, recorded in the Anabasis by some of the most famous historians in antiquity. Alexander was tested to the max and was nearly killed it that engagement, the closest he came to defeat in over a decade of conquest across Asia.
His calvary was godlike
there was a whole documentary on it, this one is about the fall.
Let this be a lesson for all empires,the elites are nearly always responsible for their empires downfall.
Bernie Sanders.
@@genericname1366 Mhm yup, Sanders is definitely the elite and Jeff Bezos isn't. Absolutely.
"Carthage was the tutor who's feet Rome learned the art of Empire. So powerful it stood in the way of Rome's greatness." 5:50.
Chills. Love this documentary!
Interesting documentary, but it should be noted that Carthaginian civilization did not disappear with the destruction of Carthage itself. Many Punic cities survived long after the bloodshed and prospered under Roman rule while maintaining much of the culture of their Phoenician ancestors.
Exactly this is clear misinformation!
Yes it wasn't a genocidal attack to exterminate all Carthaginians.
We still breathing and we are here the carthaginians 🇹🇳🇹🇳
How much was a slave there
D E V A S T A T E = Destroy to the uttermost.... this is the operative word that Rome deployed against the Carthaginians in order to annihilate them and assure that they would NEVER rebuild / re-populate Carthage. Not only did Rome destroy all of Carthage's buildings, but they sowed the soil with salt so Carthage could NOT grow any crops. Rome accomplished its survival purpose as demonstrated by the fact that there was never a 4th Punic War.... objective undeniably fulfilled.
There is so many historical inaccuracies here...
Most important -
(1) by the time of the 1st Punic conflict, there is no reason to believe that anybody considered Rome an upstart. It had already defeated Greek armies on the battlefield and conquered Greek cities in Italy.
(2) Sicily has its own history. The Romans never agreed to let it be if the Carthaginians would let Italy be. Sicily was contested by the Carthaginians, the Greeks and the native Sicilians. The complication came about when disbanded Roman and Italian soldiers formed an enterprise to own a Sicilian city and succeeded introducing a 4th faction into the conflict and providing Rome with an excuse to intervene in Sicily (because they feared that Carthage was going to win Sicily).
(3) Historians provide none of his ignorant and wholly made up 'fear and greed' motives. They simply state that the Roman state 'feared' or, more so, 'believed' that it was Carthage's intention to surround Rome and isolate them. Either Rome fought to prevent the encirclement in Siciliy or Rome would have a harder fight at some later point. Polybius is the most credible source on the matter... just read.
(4) Exterminating cities was not as profound in that era. He should have been more clear that many cities received the treatment that Carthage got instead of making this seem unprecedented.
I think people need to know that they are being lied to by a presenter that is either ignorant or dishonest. Don't take this seriously, it appears to only be entertainment.
Marc Otac Agreed and so many modern historians will LIE in order to push the Marxist world view. Don't fall for it!!!
Marc Otac Exactly! Well said.
Its like that for every single documentary. Ask any historian what documentary show they watch. Their answers will be none.
Cite some sources on all that please. I suggest you read Mary Beard's books and publications.
I appreciate your well thought-out and detailed commentary. Most of these documentaries are dramatized to pull in more viewers. No one would listen to, we have evidence along these lines and oyher evidence possibly that there's also x y and z. A fair discussion of the understanding does not make for good TV. Someone that is truly interested might stay to the official presentations at conferences and the research papers presented. I appreciate the intent of the documentary to interest and hold the viewer. Regardless you have added value to my understanding, thankyou.
Love , love, love all the history I can find!
Me too
I like the book “ The Great Controversy “ by e.g. White it’s from a religious perspective but covers before earth to eternity. Covers everything in between. It’s said to be in the White House and distributed widely to politicians and royals and as many people as possible. In my opinion it’s the best information known to mankind.
The Romans rebuilt Carthage as a colony and she eventaully became famous as a home of Christianity's most powerful bishops until (ironically) the Bishop of Rome superceeded the Bishop of Carthage. Check it. Carthage didn't just vanish.....she was moved and the city was renamed Tunis by the Arabs.
Carthage vanished when Muslims destroyed the city after conquest in the 7th Century
It ain't carthage without the Carthaginians
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Do you mean click the replay button or move the time scroll back to the start? If this works youve saved me from many frustrations.
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# Vicky, that wasn’t a yes or no question, lol.
@@kevin6293 🙁
You missed a few key details, after his first major victory, one of Hannable's allies insisted that he head right for Rome, use that victory to it's fullest and take Rome while its stunned and demoralized. Hannibal knew his limitations and that Rome had a huge wall around it, it was heavily fortified. When Rome finally defeated Hannibal they did not want to just kill him, Rome had a habit of parading their enemies through the streets and torturing them long before they kill them.
They didn't kill him
He committed suicide before the romans could take care of him
@@Bazooka_Sharks where did he say they killed him?
@@Bazooka_Sharks No thry didn't ...He got away... FAKE NEWS there Joe.
Actually they often made Allies of those they defeated. You need to study more...it was a looooong Empire with many Leaders and results and "habits". .
Fire with fire. Carthage basically did a slaughter in Spain. They were conquering and destroying several Iberian tribes. One of those tribes were trade partners to the Roman republic and war followed. Hannibal showed the world Rome was mortal. Hannibal killed more people then the Romans did in Carthage. Two major wars and 1 smaller one and not to forget Hannibal aided the Seleucids in war against Rome. They destroyed the city. Which is a very normal choice for a republic of that strength and in that time.
They were both equally evil empires.
You talk about murdered Carthaginians, but you don't mention that before that Carthage tried to wipe out and MURDER all of Rome.
I can't stop thinking of That Mitchell and Webb Look. He is constantly walking at the camera!
Haha. Brilliant. Watch the football!!
They needed photon cannons and Protoss Carriers to defend the city.
220 ships in just 45 days!?!?! That's incredible!
Absolutely wonderful. Now only if all history lessons could be this informative and entertaining.
This is why I treasure my Carthaginian coins. History of an Empire seen as an ultimate alternative history empire is very significant.
Well, let's face it, the Romans were tired of Hannibal tramping through their country and decided to give the Carthaginians a taste of their own medicine. This was sorta like what Japan got for pulling a deadly sneak attack at Pearl Harbor. What goes around comes around. No pity for those babykillers.
I read about this when I was a kid(I was a fan of ancient Roman history), but forgot about it after all these nearly thirty years. It's an unfortunate part of history, and I still wonder why the Carthaginians deserved this punishment.
According to historian Tristan Erwin in The Cults of Moloch and Baal--no I can't spoil it for you. But he gives the reason with lots of Roman references. Very interesting.
America needs to understand what Carthage didn't - there is always someone coming for your throne.
You either keep advancing and maintain your advantage, or you are destroyed. There are no alternatives.
True!
At least they don’t have an inept buffoon in charge from January
Tell that to Xi.
@@arunanand2809 Lol. You believe that ‘intel’ you’re as thick as trump
You support Biden you're an idiot. 3 failed tries. At least everyone before was smart enough to know
I appreciate you and your passion and love for history thank you for doing this for us
A much-needed perspective beyond the warped historical version of the "victors" The forgotten stories of the vanquished must be heard if we are to understand humanity. This is a superb documentary.
Skippio was right on the money. What made Rome better was Carthage. Sibling rivalry often brings out the best in both. Rome was to Carthage what the Mycenaeans was to Troy. Say what you will about the Cold War but America wouldn't be what it is today without the rivalry with Russia. They made us strive to be better and reach the stars. Literally.
If Carthage stuck around, Rome may have been completely different then she turned out becoming. America being the world's lone superpower has produced 2 separate generations of lazy citizens that are completely the opposite of our intrepid elders. It's almost a reflection of what Rome became herself. Right down to the neverending conga line of corrupt and arrogant rulers.
As the Greeks would say, every hero is defined by his villain. The bigger the villain the more heroic the epic.
Fake for the stars
Ya hollywood wouldn't be what it Is today without the soviet union
USA : todays Carthage
Russia : todays Rome
Carthage relentlessly attacked Rome and almost wiped them from existence. This documentary starts off way too late in the game to give an honest account of what happened.
Nah it was white people genociding peaceful africans wah wah wah
This documentary doesn't mention how Roman slave owners learned their trade from Carthaginian landlords in Sicily, does it? :D Or that crucifying people came to Rome also from Carthage? Things aren't black and white. Rome and Carthage were just two Ancient superpowers fighting for their place under the sun. Had Carthage defeated Rome, you can be certain it would have destroyed, enslaved and ruined its rival. Wars and cruelty are unfortunately part of human civilization and life. It's always been this way, and it will continue until the very end.
The Carthaginians couldn't have slaves or be racist because they were black.
Both of you are out to lunch.
I have a fairly good knowledge of ancient history and the orginal sources. In which sources did you find this?
Antiquity was brutal, but the Romans one-upped the rest, which is part of why they rose to dominance. They were also many other things, they should not be idealised or condemned, but they are worth a study.
The Romans gave Carthage a choice of surrender. That no harm would fall upon them. But of course Carthage refused and the slaughter began...
When did Robert Webb start narrating documentaries?
phaedrus000 Ha dude I was just thinking the same thing. Sounds exactly like him. I was imagining some weird hybrid of jez and Mark that had jez's voice and Mark's penchant for history... and this fella's face I guess
lol exactly
exactly what i thought, they must be related
Haha..Dammit.. went through comments after implying same thing.
Mate i was looking for this comment 😂 he even sounds like him
Thank you, Dr. Miles. You brought the story to life.
Thanks for the upload! I never really knew the history behind this. When it was mentioned in Gladiator, I never understood what it was about. Now I get it!
I hate these unbiased, neutral, objective presentations, I would much prefer it if the presenter was transparently partisan.
I don't like how you painted Carthage as some sort of innocent country and Rome as the horrible criminal, they were two powers fighting and doing bad things. But good documentary either way.
I totally agree with you
Rome knew it's time was at an end, and its leaders saw that Carthage was becoming everything rome had failed to be. Their anger and jealousy now echo through the ages. And the lesson still stands today.
If Carthage won, they would have treated people better.
Haha nice joke
Great documentary so far, very informative but can we talk about why no one has noticed that this narrator is absolutely gorgeous and his voice goes through my ears like liquid silk? I could listen to him talk forever. Can i have him? To read me old literature until i fall asleep every night?
This guy is laying on the anti roman bias a little thick huh?
Carthage wasn't exactly a benevolent empire...
Yeah I was surprised too
Let me explain this Italian Style: You hit us, we hit back!
Roman Darius didn’t see that style in world wars 🤷🏻♂️
Didn't work so well in ww2 for you
@@wankawanka3053 , Britain Won, right?
So explain this: 1. Britain is still paying off the debt of World War 2. 2. Britain has lost all of their colonies! 3. Britain is now being colonized. (In 50 years, the British White People will be a minority in their own country, they are being replaced!)
That was great. Thank you. Your prononciation is also really good for my English practice.
The English don’t speak English correctly. Learn from north Americans.
@@kevin6293 lmaooooooo
@@kevin6293 😂😂😂
Rome was still a Rupublic for a long time after the destruction of Carthage. Not imperial anything.
wow avicii is such a great presenter
_Who?!?_
LOL.
You think so?? I thought he was awful and seemed full of hate for people who lived almost a few thousands of years ago. This video was completely one sided and bizarrely ignored the attacks, killing and destruction of the Roman mainland by the Carthaginian army.
Robert Fulton he said in the beginning that the history was written by the victors (Rome), and he wanted to tell the story of Carthage, so that's what he did.
@@LifeAdviceSite Yeah but he completely ignores the terrible misdeeds of Carthaginian empire building while accusing the Romans of the very same thing. It's bizarre and completely biased history. Sure, tell the story of Carthage but don't pretend they were something that they were not, because they were certainly no more virtuous in their political life and military conduct than the Romans were. And it's a blatant lie to say they were.
'historians' need to stop offering their half baked moral commentary
The moral less often feign to have morals. Carthage had slave markets and sacrificed children. A bit of a moral oversight.
@@ancientbear3280 And rome imprisoned men women children and elder alike with hungry and irritated carnivores so they could watch them be devoured for fun.
They also had slave markets, you'll find out that everyone did at the time.
3 words barked from the mouth of a superpower. And here I was thinking Hannibal was the Barka.
Mikey B the door is that way
This is the best joke in the whole comments section
@paulbsmokin Make the thunder!
You got jokes!
Clearly this host hasn’t every played civ 6.
I was pretty luke warm about this guy until he bellowed "Delenda est Carthago, Carthage must be destroyed" with the echo, I felt that. 32:33 if you want to hear it again.
For those who are saying that modern day Tunisia have no connection to ancient Carthage :
Oumouk tangou is an ancient Tunisian tradition of invocation of the rain which was inherited from the Punic traditions . Tangou is another name of Tanit , goddess of fertility in ancient Carthage .My mother told me about it , she learned it from her mother before her :
"Ommek tangou ya nse , d'aat rabi 'al shte" which means : "Oumouk tango, O women, ask God to rain" .
Lol i know right. Blacks say that carthage and egypt were black lol. Look at the people there today they r the same
Moving to Germany, aquiring citizenship and being assimilated by the german culture doesn't make you german. Only your genetics make you german.
@@zacharymccoy2418 well they're not black first Its hot there that your skin get darker in matter of hours under the sunlight, second Carthage same as modern Tunisia formed by settlers from all over Mediterranian sea, name it Turks Arab Spanish Italians Greek Africans. Natives like Amazigh and Berber(they're not even black), well people say Many things, without backing them.
@@fuzzles9246 wait wait wait. I think there is a huge misunderstanding i was saying they weren't black we agree lol
@@zacharymccoy2418 yeah i know, i just confirmed what you said lol
With the power of hindsight i can say Carthage paid for it's complacency. It should of recognized Rome as a danger much earlier on & laid siege to their city before they grew to powerful.
Nothing changes much. Carthage's complete lack of ability to sense danger reminds me of the Republican Party in the U.S. They're too busy grubbing after money to know when danger is creeping up on them. This may be out of context, but the historical parallels are striking.
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Or just supported their general when he was over there causing ruckus and turning Italian provinces to his side
They were the most powerful group in that region. I'm pretty sure their scouts would have made reports on the threat that Rome poses but I guess they were too drunk in their influence so they chose to underestimate them and paid fatally for it.
And what do you think Hannibal was doing for a couple of years!
Thank god for RUclips where I can binge on stories of history and great civilizations from the past. I thought I was biggest history buff but looks like there are a lot of us out there. I've been watching a lot of documentaries on the Roman empire, American Revolution, French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Dark Ages, WWI and WWII (I like to jump around). I haven't even started on Greece, Egypt, and other ancient civilizations. So much to watch, so little time!! haha
There are some glaring errors in this. The colosseum wasn't built until way after the third punic war, 216 years after to be exact. The Roman Empire wouldn't have even have been a conceivable notion to the Romans at the end of the Punic Wars either. And Hannibal had no chance of sieging Rome, he intentionally avoided sieges throughout his campaign because of that. Through skill and luck he repeatedly outwitted the Romans but had he stopped in order to siege a city Rome could bring overwhelming numbers to bear on him.
Hannibal had to Rome by the throat. Had Rome Under Siege. But back at home the ruling class had negotiated with Rome behind his back and his provision lines had been cut.
If they had not negotiated a peace with Rome Hannibal would had broke through the gates of Rome.
Rome did not negotiate in good faith. A year later they were off the coast of Africa ready to come ashore. they came and they killed all those who negotiated with Hannibal behind his back. They burnt down the city and salted land.
Son Of Perdition
The colosseum was an aqua duct
@@walkinaxyl lol
@@denisshillingford5891
"Hannibal had to Rome by the throat."
Kinda
"But back at home the ruling class had negotiated with Rome behind his back and his provision lines had been cut."
Yes
"Had Rome Under Siege."
Never happened
"If they had not negotiated a peace with Rome Hannibal would had broke through the gates of Rome.
No, he lacked the tools necessary to ever siege Rome itself.
If anything, Rome's meteoric recovery and rise after Hannibal just goes to show how little he really affected them.
@@lucasstemba I just wanted to credit Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus who took the Agnomen Cuncator (delayer) for his tactic against Hannibal of attacking his supply lines and only engaging in minor skirmishing attacks. This held Hannibal back long enough for Scipio Africanus to wreak havoc in Iberia.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Fabius_Maximus_Verrucosus
I understand that only something like one in ten military age Romans survived Cannae and the other two major battles (whose names escape me), so understandable that Cato the Elder was so insistent that Carthage had to be destroyed..
i was in carthage the other day having a breakfast in the punic art cafe that it had a great view of carthags bay and i was imagining the invasion of the romans and the years of siege it was a mixed feeling of sadness and fantasy.....
Hannibal really took the meaning of "holding a grudge" to a whole new level when he marched with elephants from Spain all the way to Rome. That looks like a massive hike if you just look at the distance on a map, imagine how long and arduous it was in real life. And the ironic part of it is that in the end, after all that effort, Hannibal still didn't achieve anything significant in terms of inflicting any serious damage on Rome's power.
"by 300 BC Rome was punching and kicking its way to becoming a militarised state by some monstrous embryo with a destiny to fulfil straining to be born" 11:45 absolutely loved it
Michael Gamba If you can't protect it you don't deserve it.
Love this series & love learning bout Rome, thank you for this documentary, keep it up :)
Another Great video of the day! Imagine if the Senate had sent the seige equipment, Hannibal ordered?
Beautiful Tunisia 😍
Thx sister 🤗❤️
At the end of the day, the Carthaginian sociopolitical framework was no match for that of Rome.
AT the end of the day. Baal and Melcat
We know about the Carthaginian culture only from Roman and Greek descriptions. Both Rome and Greece hated and envied Carthage. It is very likely that the child sacrifice cult and other horrific allegations are false. Carthaginians were first to develop sophisticated alphabet and iron manufacturing, spoke Hebrew and were very close to the other Hebrews, including the Israelites. They were probably descendants of the Dan tribe as they were originally Phoenicians. One century later, the Romans puled the same massacre to the Jews, but with less success. However, the Romans invented antisemitism against the Jews, which is alive and well to this day and beyond. Negative statements against the Carthaginians of which you know very little, is similar to gratuitous antisemitism.
Joshua Halpern thank you for that ignorance is truly wide spread
@@joshuahalpern4426 There is evidence of the child sacrifice in Carthage. What a surprise, a Jew who doesn't like Rome!
@@joshuahalpern4426 do you have any links or proofs or are you just spreading conspiracies?
Too much focus on Rome and not at all enough on the Greeks. Southern France , east Sicily and Southern Italy were all colonized by Greeks and were Carthage's rival in the western Mediterranean. It was the Greeks on Sicily who recruited the Romans into the first Punic War. You can partly blame them for the Roman Empire. All the early Roman provinces were old Greek colonies.
Fishslap LOL Did you read the TITLE of this DOCUMENTARY!!
I don't communicate with morons. Learn to write like a proper human being and maybe I'll consider it.
Fishslap 33 roman are decended from greek i think
According to Roman legends they are refugees from Troy. And I don't believe the Trojans were technically Greeks. Either way this is just legend and we don't have any evidence that I am aware of either way.
Fishslap 33 The Greeks didn't mind the commere of a fellow civilized nation so of course they cooperated and in the end the Greeks became the defacto masters of Christian Byzantium....
love from carthage🇹🇳🇹🇳🇹🇳
Tunisia is not carthage, not even slightly
@@thaeldir8923 what do u mean
@@Angelllllllll carthage had been completely destroyed, nothing left, tunisia was kinda built on top of it
@@thaeldir8923 yeah of course but thats history , Carthage ruins are still breathtaking and present to this day , it is the place i've grew up in no matter how different it is now from the "documentaries carthage" it's still beautiful and famous for its historical sites..
@A Google User Romans were black Africans...
I think this guy doesn't like Rome
Stephen Kolenda b
why do you think??
You don't think much. Please dont think too much. :D
@@sushanalone another brainwashed leftist moron here
@:] McAllister TV u tube video! Gloria Vanderbilt's necklace! Child sacrifices!!!! Rome built a Colosseum devoted to human torture! Baby bones found means child sacrifices in Carthage???? Taum Ireland mass grave of babies????
Lol. The narrator lambasts Cato as being paranoid and Xenophobic for thinking Carthage was secretly breaking their treaty but at 36:05 goes on to show a secret naval base where they armed & maintained a large fleet ... violating their treaty.
well what the ...would you do?
Oh it was certainly a rational move on their part, that's not my objection. My issue is the black & white narrative being presented.
I learned a lot, Thanks. Liking underdogs, I've always had a special liking for Carthage (but didn't know much about it, except Hannibal's elephants and the Phoenicians). And liked Troy, another underdog.... i liked here the first Scipio's wisdom: That Rome needed Carthage to keep it sharp, and to inspire improvements.
Rome was the underdog. Rome didn't even control all of Italy, Carthage had lands all over the Mediterranean. The Romans won Spain because the local tribes joined them against Carthage, and their army was a militia as opposed to mercenaries.
@Thelondonbadger Watch the video or otherwise... E.g., the video and other investigations show that Rome produced BS anti-Carthage propaganda to self-justify Roman genocide against Carthage. Such as: the false story Carthaginians killed their babies and cooked them. Truth is Carthage was simply the main rival to Rome.
35:26 "As he unfurled his toga, out dropped ripe, juicy figs."
Robert Jeal at his age, only figs, not plums....what else? “Yes, we have no bananas...”
Made my Day 😂😂
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Martin A. M. Erickson, III LMAO!!!😂😂. Good one!!!
Figs not plums 😂
But who did the Carthaginians displace?
Big brain question
Thank you Sir for this documentary
I think it's would be interested to contact Mr. Karim Mokhtar he has many truth about Carthage
The Carthaginians were not murdered they were vanquished
Hannibal at cannae 2 August 216 BC managed sourond and to slaughter over 67,000 Romans while hannibal only had about 50,000 in total. This made rome panic but when the Carthaginian fleet with supplies lost Hannibal had no choice but raid through Italy.
But after a few more years Hannibal got called back home when the romans surprised Carthage with an army in africa on Carthaginian home land. But when the Roman army led by Publius Cornelius Scipio at the battle of zama 19:th of October 202 bc manged to defeat Hannibal. Hannibal got banished due to this and Carthage got forced to sign an unimaginable harsh treaty
That’s the way you defeat an enemy forever
So Rome ended a civilisation that sacrificed its own children in its sacred shrines.
John Vane kinda like abortion today.
Could have ben other peoples children
Romans were hardly any better they were brutal baby killers no saints in this conflict one horrible government wiped out another horrible government poetic justice they all roast now ! It is academic it was thousands of years ago matters little to us
@@daveyhouston I had a professor in medieval history that explained a lot using analogies from The Sopranos.
@@Oo7Hola No. Not really.
Love this ❤️ I’m Carthaginian myself ☺️and born in a small clinic just beside the ruins. We are still proud of our history.
Don't talk with them
These people are just like the Romans and the greeks
they hate us and they defend rome
You should do a dna test , see if you have Phoenician bloodline!!
@@charliesea8594 Yeah, I've been thinking of that too :D
You are as much Carthaginian as modern Italians are Romans or Iranians are Persians. Very obsecurely and vaguely, if anything at all. Stop making yourself seem more important than what you really are. We are just mongrels in this day and age, no matter where you come from.
As Carthage stood up from the ashes of the roman holocaust . Tunisian democracy will rise and shine despite all obstacles.....
I prefer less bias in my documentary’s, not like Carthage were nice guys. An equal rivalry between empires that could’ve gone either way.